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Views From the Top Row - More trade rumors, some silly

Starting local, the Denver Post has more Chac-tastic gossip now that the Chacon-to-New-York-for-a-pile-of-promising-statue-of-liberty-figurines  deal has broken down. Apparently, the Rox are thinking now that they can get a little replica of the Golden Gate Bridge (San Fran), or maybe a stuffed Shamu toy (San Diego), or a free tour of South Fork Ranch(Texas), or an old person's dentures (Tampa) for their starting pitcher.
Sigh. Probably the best news from this article is that the Rockies are "aggressively trying to move Dustan Mohr". Finally.

Moving on, now that the Yankees have discovered that the Rockies are cheap and easily duped they are thinking of trying to get Eric Byrnes. Of course they would really prefer "a proven starter like Juan Pierre of Florida or Randy Winn of Seattle" but a "lesser outfielder like Eric Byrnes of Colorado or Philadelphia's Endy Chavez" would apparently suffice. Tell me I'm not the only one laughing at that.

Lastly, the fact that Brian Fuentes is out of everybody's price range, doesn't stop some teams from thinking about it. Let's start with Jeff Mathis and Brandon Wood, and see where we can go from there and I think we might be getting some place with this particular deal.

For more opinions on our  attempts to move Chac', see the Disaster Report and Roxhead among others.

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Fuentes to the Angels
Mathis and Wood are on the high end of what we could get. I'm thinking the Angels could offer a package of Sean Rodgriguez and reliever Bob Zimmerman for Fuentes, which is somewhere in the middle of the trade spectrum.

I might take the latter if the Angels include someone else.

by Russ Oates on Jul 19, 2005 2:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I had to write this post twice,
and the first time, the one my computer ate, I actually said that a more realistic scenario would include Zimmerman and one of their slightly lesser middle infielders, maybe Kendrick but probably not Wood or Aybar. I still think we should hold out for Mathis, however, as he would be a prime candidate to fill a definite need.

by Rox Girl on Jul 19, 2005 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rodgriguez
could be moved to catcher. There was talk about that in the offseason because of his strong arm.

by Russ Oates on Jul 19, 2005 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Give me Aybar
If we want oodles of groundball pitchers, how about a shortstop with real range that won't kill you at the plate.  He still has to grasp a better concept of walking, but is a high contact (non-slap) hitter with some gap power.  His age and his level give a glimmer of hope for more patience, and his career could resemble Renteria or Cabrera in that they will provide rangy defense, solid average hitting with a little pop for the position.  Wood isn't going anywhere, but with Aybar blocking his path to Double A at the moment, and Cabrera's contract hindering a major movement for either, the team could justify parting ways with Aybar.

Shortstop is the best position for organizational depth, as they can move most anywhere and be at least average.  Aybar could be moved to Triple A upon aquisition, and he and Q could give a glimpse of the keystone combo in the not so distant future.  Also, having seen him a few times personally, he's an exciting player that could garner more fan interest with his defensive play.

by David "ohno" on Jul 19, 2005 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

You're not the only one laughing
I'm so fed up with the Yankees' belief that the rest of MLB is their farm system.  
Captain America rocks

by Just Me on Jul 19, 2005 4:03 PM MDT reply actions  

I see what you mean
What really got me in the papers today wasn't the Yankees, but Jim Bowden's comments in the Post about Wilson going 1-4.  Keep telling yourself that Jimmy, especially as your offense scuffles and keeps your team from topping Atlanta's dynasty.    

by David "ohno" on Jul 19, 2005 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Take Chaq off the market now please Mr O'Dowd
Let's hope Dealin' Dan has got his itchy trading finger satisfied for the time being.

Well, if he wants to trade (errr give away) BK...

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Next years rotation:

Aaron Cook
Jeff Francis
Shawn Chacon
Jason Jennings
Jamey Wright

and get your seats early because this team will win a few ballgames...
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by roxhead on Jul 19, 2005 11:50 PM MDT reply actions  

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