Shealy to Baltimore?

by Rox Girl on Jun 23, 2006 6:01 AM MDT in Rockpile

the Post reports we're in serious discussions with the Orioles and have identified two players who we would trade Shealy one for one. Who are they?

Well I know Eddy Garabito has to be one of the two...

Kidding!

Anyway, it's kind of tricky figuring it out. Me being the typical Rockies homer I would say a trade of Shealy for Adam Loewen straight up is totally even, but I have a feeling the O's would be inclined to disagree. A more likely scenario would be Nick Markakis or Brandon Fahey.

Brandon Fahey, for more on him and other possible Orioles, check out Camden Chat.

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Likely players criteria...

If we were to do a Shealy trade one for one, I figure it would have to be for an MLB ready player of the age and experience level of the "Outer Core"(the Gen "R" group) or a higher potential prospect of the age and experience level of the "Inner Core"(the Tulsa Drillers) of our system.

Second, the player won't be redundant to a position we already have depth in, such as the infield on the corners, and I think we're mostly set with hard throwing relievers. Markakis and Fahey both would be solid reserves in the outfield (Markakis will for certain be an upgrade over Piedra or Spillborghs) and Fahey could actually probably fit as a backup infielder as well, that's why I suggested them. If we were to get pitching from Baltimore for Shealy, it would most likely be a starter from AA Bowie, or a left handed reliever to give us insurance in case Ray King continues to struggle.

by Rox Girl on Jun 23, 2006 7:45 AM MDT reply actions

Here's my prediction.....

Greg Olson.....

He's a left-handed starter and was just promoted to AA this past week.

in High-A 4-4, 14 GS, 2.77 ERA, 81.1 IP, 81 H, 7 HR, 19 BB, 77 K

low-90s Fastball, Power Curveball and a changeup in progress...

Has a sizeable groundball/flyball ratio. He got hit pretty bad in his first AA start.....but he's my "sleeper" guess for a trade.

Personally.....I highly doubt we'll get any of the O's top 5 prospects considering the fact that Shealy is 26 already. Heck....Olson may even be too much to ask for......I dunno.

by sg8335aa on Jun 23, 2006 8:49 AM MDT reply actions

I was thinking about Olson, he would have been

third on my list but I really doubt he'd be available. A more likely option is Val Majewski, although that would be less palatable for us. I probably shouldn't have put Markakis up there as a possibility as I should probably have assumed the O's are still high on him. I really don't see him being any more than an average offensive MLB corner outfielder with above averge defense. I really wouldn't have put him as the number one prospect in the organization like BA did. Shealy will provide more offense than Markakis both long erm and this season, and he'll provide it right away, but you're probably right in that the O's will want to hold onto their prize.

by Rox Girl on Jun 23, 2006 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions

Garrett Olson

not to be confused with the Garrett Olson that the Twins drafted this year (and plays 3B).

He was a guy Rox Girl and I both thought the Rockies should have drafted last year in the second round.

But I don't think he'll be available.

by Russ Oates on Jun 23, 2006 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions

I'm sure it has to be an arm

And I doubt that any players drafted under the current scouting coordinator will be available, which means no Olson, and no Reimold.

I also doubt that Liz would be available in trade either, since he appears to be the top prospect in the organization.

One guy that I'm sure the Rockies would love to pry away from the O's is Hayden Penn, who has been very good in Ottawa this season, and has some major league experience. He's currently shelved, so his availability and prospective injury future may need to be analyzed, and Baltimore may not want to part with him, but Penn has good stuff and good numbers and could be a future number two guy down the road.

A current major leaguer that could be available is Daniel Cabrera, who seems to be perpetually on the cusp of a breakout. Work with Mazzone hasn't been as helpful as some thought, and he may be frustrating to the organization, to the point that he could be had for Shealy. Cabrera is unhittable on nights that he "gets it," and has legit ace material. I think his numbers right now make him ripe for the picking, and if the Rockies' scouts have pinpointed areas in which they feel the organization can correct his flaws, he could be a major steal. At the least, he has the stuff of a dominant closer.

As for Loewen, I'd love to have him too, but I couldn't imagine that Baltimore would be willing to part with him. I ultimately think that Colorado will be rebuffed in their requests, and other teams will enter the fray after interleague play. Even though we might feel that Loewen is appropriate in return for Shealy, I doubt we get max value in a trade for Shealy, an opportunity that passed by last season at the latest.

by David "ohno" on Jun 23, 2006 4:19 PM MDT reply actions

Oh, and Fahey is near worthless

Why not just call up Josh Wilson?

by David "ohno" on Jun 23, 2006 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions

honestly

I'd rather trade Loewen than Markakis any day. But I really like Markakis. Also Markakis won't happen because he's Greek and Peter Angelos is in love with him.

Fahey has heart and desire and all that jive. He's uh...well he shouldn't be in the major leagues right now. But he's an instant fan favorite. He weighs like 94 pounds. Not that I'd trade Shealy for him if it were up to me (and I was the one in control of Shealy).

Hayden Penn will not happen because of the fact that he got a cup of coffee last year and, considering the state of our rotation the last TEN YEARS, someone with prospect status (even if it's a smidge overblown in some Oriole circles, in my opinion) gets treated like the second coming. Penn, like Markakis, is part of the sliver of hope we retain for the near future.

But I'd love to get Shealy, and if it took Loewen to do it, I'd make that deal. I don't know if the Orioles would, but I don't think Loewen is untouchable or anything.

Camden Chat

by SC @ Purple Row on Jun 24, 2006 1:36 AM MDT reply actions

Hello again

As I mentioned on your team's blog I am very confident that the Orioles would be getting a very good first basemen - meaning someone that would be a long-term building block of the lineup and much better than league average at his position.

Whether someone like Loewen is too much to pay for him I will leave for other people to argue about but if I was on a team that needed a firstbaseman I would prefer Shealy over any of the names that have been mentioned all year as possibly being available or most of the names that have been available on the free agent market or via trade over the last several years (Delgado and Bell being exceptions though on anything other than a big market team I would still take Shealy over Delgado for value and youth).

by MADness on Jun 24, 2006 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions

Sorry about your front office

BTW, I am sorry about your front office situations which has really crippled the franchise over the last decade or so.

Rockies fans are all too familiar with what it is like to root for a franchise whose management keeps changing plans and who fans have little faith in.

Those of us who are Nuggets fans as well REALLY know how you guys feel.

by MADness on Jun 24, 2006 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions