Please stop playing the stupid low payroll card: A Rockies History 2001-2006
Sorry for posting more on this, but my frustration at people that think that throwing money at a problem is the quickest and best solution is bubbling over this afternoon. I know Rockies fans are frustrated with losing. Believe me. I know the frustration. Alright, anyway, some quick historical analysis of what positions each team in the last six seasons has needed to improve to help me get focused on what I want to say here:
Why do I start with this season? Well despite the 73-89 record of the franchise, it was the last time we were even mediocre. At the start of the season the team had two stars in Larry Walker and Todd Helton but then received at least league average production at three other spots in the everyday lineup with Jeff Cirillo, Todd Walker and Juan Pierre (Pierre's OPS+ of 89 is obviously ten percent below average, but once his SB's are factored in, it gets at least to that point, of course, that's the last time as a Rockie). What really brought us up to blessed mediocrity, though, was the bench production from Juan Uribe and others. Dan O'Dowd and the team were wise in understanding they needed to address a hole in left field, but that summer they thought they needed to fill too many holes, took too many risks and have been trigger shy ever since. The moves of this summer set the team back five years.
Team Needs:
- Left Fielder
- Fifth Starter
- Maybe some bullpen help.
2002:
Alright, now because of some of those moves and the collapse of Hampton/Neagle we were officialy terrible.
Team Needs:
- Starter #1
- Starter #2
- Starter #5
- Catcher
- Shortstop
- Center field
- Second Base
- Third Base
- Bench
As for the MLB team, four out of eight lineup spots were 30% or more below average. Three out of five rotation slots needed upgrades. The bench had one solid bat. It's a miracle this team won more than seventy games. This is when I started focusing most of my attention on the farm because it was apparent to me that winning in Colorado would take awhile.
Team Needs:
- Catcher
- Second Base
- Third Base
- Shortstop
- Bench
- Starter #1
- Starter #2
Team Needs:
- Catcher
- Shortstop
- Second Base
- Center Field
- Bench
- Starter #1
- Starter #5
- Bullpen (at least 3 members)
Team Needs:
- Catcher
- Shortstop (we were assuming that Barmes would handle it, though)
- Second Base
- Center Field
- Starter #1
- Starter #3
- Starter #4
- Bullpen (2 members)
- Bench
Which brings us to this year, 2006:
Team Needs:
- Center Field
- Catcher
- Shortstop
- Bench
- Starter #1
- Starter #5
For next season we finally have legit long term answers at two more key positions, catcher and shortstop. Don't expect much more than league average production at first, but that's all we really need at the moment. As far as where any money should go, yes, center field is the correct call, but no, spending massively on a long term contract for Torii Hunter or Gary Matthews Jr is not. Neither is trying to play short-term stop-gap fix with Steve Finley or Darin Erstad. I really think we should look to give Coco Crisp a two year deal, with a mutual option for a third. I think we could make a competitive bid there. If we did want to go with a long term lucrative contract, the only player it makes sense for is Vernon Wells. Period. I actually think it would make sense to see if we could make that happen somehow. Beyond that, the rotation is a real concern, and I think management is misguided looking at the bullpen instead. But that's just me.
Anyway, I guess my point is that I wish people would just shut up about all this payroll nonsense and if they want to blame Dan O'Dowd and the Monforts for this mess, go ahead and go back to 2001 and point the fingers as they were certainly deserved then, but now it's pointless and needlessly pessimistic.
Update [2006-9-29 2:44:17 by Rox Girl]: I should have looked more closely at Crisp's contract, as OhNo points out in the comments it's fixed for the next three seasons, which means that we'd have to acquire him by trade. I say fine. Do that, as long as it's not a starting pitcher, Holliday, Atkins, Tulo or Iannetta that the Red Sox ask for. We can't afford to end up with Finley or Erstad.
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The rotation as a concern
Then the team will have a hard time keeping up with what Mark at Bad Altitude wrote today:
by Russ Oates on Sep 28, 2006 2:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The bottom of the rotation is vary much a concern
by Rox Girl on Sep 28, 2006 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry but
Crisp also has a contract extention, and here's the year-by-year breakdown courtesy of Cot's Baseball Contracts:
07:$3.5M, 08:$4.75M, 09:$5.75M, 10:$8M club option ($0.5M buyout)
I expect Boston to make a strong play for Andruw Jones or Vernon Wells this off-season, which would possibly make Crisp expendable, but with a contract under five mil per, they could just as easy retain him as a fourth outfielder/speed specialist.
So Crisp is still going to draw a sizable return, and one that could cost a Brad Hawpe, or Jeff Baker, or Seth Smith (remember they did want one of our big three starters, so they aren't just going to settle for Kim again.)
To top it off, Crisp just wasn't that good this year, and his reputation will still carry him through trade. He's a very risky proposition, because we will have to give Boston something of value, and that something isn't Barmes, Sullivan, Closser, Torrealba, etc.
Crisp is just a name to keep fans interested. We know this team's recent history, and can begin to roll out the welcome mat for either Finley or Erstad...talk about improvement..but hey, at least it will give us more Ringolsby and Harding propaganda pieces that outline the tremendous "leadership intangibles" and "veteran presence" these guys bring, not to mention .200 batting averages and deteriorating defensive skills...
by David "ohno" on Sep 28, 2006 8:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I know what's going to happen
I should have looked closer at his contract, as I was just spouting off in reaction to things I'd been reading in the papers and on fan boards. The main point of this piece had little to do with center or any other position of need, and more to do with what I perceive to be either a lack of understanding of the basics of baseball finance on the part of outside observers or a lack of what it would have taken to repair this team over the last five seasons. This season is a little different and with a working talent pipeline we actually could afford to lose a Smith, a Hawpe or a Baker to get an upgrade in center. We've got more outfield help on the way in the other two, plus Gaetti, Miller and even possibly Ian Stewart.
by Rox Girl on Sep 29, 2006 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm late on this but...
While, I've cooled on Hawpe's potential, I like it better then Finley or Erstad, who are both old, and on the end of their careers. Especially using Freeman, or Spillbourghs as a 4th OF rotation. Crisp I like, but I'm afraid, the Red Sox will really rip off whoever trades for him. When the Rockies had asked about him before the trading dead line, Boston wanted Iannetta, AND one of our starting 3.
Redhawk
by Redhawk on Sep 30, 2006 9:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs



















