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i have a hilarious joke- would you like to hear it?

this is so funny i'm having a hard time typing it.  give me just a second to collect myself.

whew.  ok.  i think i'm ready.

so, you know how no one in the NL won more than 90 games this year?  and how the two teams playing for the NL pennant are both in not-that-huge media markets and pretty much unknown to casual fans?  here's the punchline- are you ready?  because of these reasons, and furthermore because all the AL playoff teams won 94 games this year... it's kind of like the national league is playing "quadruple A" baseball!  

get it?  like, they're above AAA baseball, but not as good as the AL?  hahahahahaha!  is that not the funniest joke you've ever heard, or at least the funniest sports joke you've ever heard?  think about it- "AAAA" baseball! that doesn't even exist in real life, but if it did... it would be better than AAA baseball but worse than MLB (read: AL) baseball!  i'm dying here.

sarcasm aside, i'm getting really tired of hearing this "joke" from smarmy/unfunny sportswriters (ahem... simmons... and others), red sawks fans (including the SBN blog, "over the monster"), and even the occasional indians fan.  it's all over the place and it's officially trite at this point.  seriously, guys.  did you not learn anything last october?  it was the exact same schtick back then, and the 83 win cardinals trouncing the mighty 95 win tigers didn't shut anyone up.  i guess the rockies or d-backs are just going to have to embarass the indians or red sox or we're going to hear more of the same for the next X months/years.  

the thing is- i guarantee you that if the NLCS were between the mighty 89 win phillies and 88 win mets, we wouldn't be hearing about this at all.  i think it's more about geography than number of wins.  either way, it's really pissing me off.

Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).

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Hear hear.
This is one of the many reasons why I'll be 100 percent behind the Rockies if they advance to the Series. Of course, the Cardinals sweeping last year didn't do much to the NL perception (despite all the hype for the mighty Tigers), so I don't know what it would take this year. Maybe a sweep where Holliday (or Byrnes if we make it) hits like 14 homers.

by azdb7 on Oct 12, 2007 12:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Hmmm...
MLB must be extremely embarrassed after losing to a AAAA team last year in the World Series.

Oh, and those mighty AL East teams should be proud they play in a tough division, without Tampa Bay and Baltimore, who are clearly not AAAA teams. Wait...

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 12, 2007 12:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Of course it's geography
, unfortunately.  It's a fact of nature that baseball is just plain better in New York, Pennsylvania (well, not so much Pittsburgh) and Massachusetts.  If a team happens to trounce on a media darling, while still being in the AL, then they're okay.  Maybe the Superior Team had a bad day, that's okay.  They were still beaten by an AL team, who is obviously now superior and the Team of Destiny.

Doesn't matter that Dice-K got tagged for 4 hits by the D'Backs, and the Rockies put up 9 on Shilling and 10 on Beckett.  Oh yeah, and the Rockies did it in Fenway.

None of that matters.  The only thing that matters is that baseball is just plain better in in Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, Citizens Bank Park, Fenway Park, and Wrigley Field.

Wait, Milwaukee has a team?  And they won how many games?

by oo_nrb on Oct 12, 2007 12:20 PM MDT reply actions  

*4 runs on Dice-K
It doesn't matter that the Rockies swept the Yankees, or took 2 of 3 at Fenway. We NL West fans just can't escape the fact that they're better teams. It sucks, but it's true.

Wait a second... they're no longer playing baseball in New York, Philly, or Chicago?? You can't be serious...

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 12, 2007 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Amen
It's true. I know that Bristol is in New England and that most of baseball's time honored teams rose up from east coast cities but I can't put my finger on how the gradual evolution of "ECB" or East Coast Bias came to be, anyone?
InToddwetrust

by InToddwetrust on Oct 12, 2007 2:05 PM MDT reply actions  

It's actually not a sports-only phenomenon
And it helps to recognize how it ties into how media is made in the first place. It's all about following the money and influence. America's primary financial (Wall Street) and political (Washington) centers are where most of the media attention for the country will be drawn, and anything that media covers -including leisure pursuits and diversions- will be centered around those areas and targeted to the people who live there. This is why the advertising industry, which funds the media is also centered in New York. Boston, Baltimore and Philadelphia enjoy the benefits of proximity, but the mountains of Western Pennsylvania and New York seem to be the dividing line as Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati get less exposure despite being in the Eastern time zone.

Detroit still pulls a little media clout for being the home of our automobile trade and along with Chicago and St. Louis forms a secondary big media market group. That's where they get the "Second City" nickname for Chi-town, as a sort of poor-man's New York. Atlanta used to be a sort of red-headed stepchild before cable television and the rise of the New South, the bias would exclude them before and during the 1980's from what I understand, but thanks to TBS, CNN, a lot of money, a successful team and the right time zone, the Braves have joined the establishment. You'll note that nobody cares about the Florida teams, and that's pretty much because Madison Avenue feels that everybody in Florida has stronger ties to the Northeast. Texas is all by itself, but energy and oil money have made it a lucrative independent market for advertising, most of the trade there comes out of Houston, meaning the Astros will likely get more coverage than the Rangers until that shifts.

Colorado/Denver's kind of an odd duck in the industry, honestly. The money is there, and the people eat up advertising -obviously they get passionate about their sports too- there just aren't enough of them yet and there really isn't a supplementary market in the Mountain West to allow Denver to become a regional center like Atlanta or Houston to develop a strong independent ad/media center. Phoenix is out, similarly to Florida with the East, its population -from an ad standpoint- is tied completely to the West Coast and not the Mountain West. Silicon Valley and Hollywood rule out there, and that's why Los Angeles/San Fran will get all the exposure while the D-backs, Padres and Mariners are left wanting.

by Rox Girl on Oct 12, 2007 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Journos
I think there is also the issue that a lot of these journalists go to school in NYC or Boston so they pick up sports and regional loyalties there.  And if they don't go there, they go to left coast schools.  I'm not trying to imply that there aren't universities and good journalism programs elsewhere in the country, just that a preponderance of these sports writers come up on the East Coast.  It isn't fair really. You could make an argument that a lot of East Coast bias also stemms from the giant payrolls of AL East teams.
Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 13, 2007 6:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

"Second City"
Chicago is called the "Second City" because the original Chicago burned down (Great Chicago Fire) to the ground and the city was rebuilt on it's ashes.  Trust me, I was under the same impression you were, but my wife (Chicago native, but converted Rox fan)corrected me and a tour of Chicago this past summer confirmed the term "Second City". But you are completely right about the East Coast and the markets.
It's ROCKtober, baby!

by Volorado on Oct 13, 2007 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the correction
I was actually wondering if I should look that up as I was writing, as it was something I was always told (well two or three times) in the biz, but never bothered researching. I hope what I was told about it being the Windy City because of blow hard politicians and not due to winds off the lake is still true, because that's just too good.

by Rox Girl on Oct 13, 2007 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Although,
While I was just verifying the Windy City source looking at the Chicago Public Library site, the "Second City" to New York explanation seems to be the one that they have, too.

by Rox Girl on Oct 13, 2007 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks
Truth be told I'd rather have open space than media coverage to begin with. It's hard to sweep a WS champ under the rug so I guess we'll just have to press on.
InToddwetrust

by InToddwetrust on Oct 12, 2007 4:29 PM MDT reply actions  

You know I do usually love Simmons....
but you hit the nail on the head.  It furiates me that he is constantly dissing the NL then admits that he hasn't even watched an NL game this year.  
Don't have anything interesting to put as a signature.

by jcd823 on Oct 13, 2007 12:16 AM MDT reply actions  

Agreed
Simmons is usually an enjoyable guy, although always a prick.

His reasoning for following the NL NEXT SEASON is that he's going to join an NL-only fantasy league.

Well, be still, my beating heart.

Hopefully the NL winner (and even more hopefully, the Rockies) will wafflestomp the AL winner. Like I said earlier, I think the only way to be taken seriously is for the NL to become like the NFC during the 80s-90s. Win it all. Every single year.

I have a Red Sox fan who has been enjoying the Rockies games with me until he realized we might actually be a threat, and suddenly his arrogance about "96 wins and playoff experience...and you're the Rockies" starts to come to the surface.

by A.J. Haefele on Oct 13, 2007 1:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have to admit...
...The win streak you guys are on is starting to look unstoppable.  What is the winning streak record by the way?  The Rockies must be getting close to setting a record for consecutive wins.
Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 13, 2007 6:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

There was a loss in the midst of everything...
We won 11 straight.  Lost 1 (to Webb of all people), then we've come back to with the next 8.  19-1 in our last 20.  

The teams?  Dodgers, Padres, DBacks, Phillies.  9 straight wins on the road.

It's a nice streak.

Oh, and to the BoSox fan above me, do you remember the Rox eariler this year?  Remember who we beat?

by roxintober on Oct 13, 2007 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's freaking ridiculous.
Not gonna lie. You guys are OUT of your MINDS.
I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 13, 2007 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

What a crack up!
Love your style, guy. Great post. Our Rox will just have prove them idiots once again. Not that they'll learn, but hey - we'll have a hellauva good time!
"Wishes come true, not free." - Stephen Sondheim

by rockhead on Oct 13, 2007 8:22 PM MDT reply actions  

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