Tuesday Morning Rockpile: A World Series Comes To Denver

by Russ Oates on Oct 16, 2007 7:46 AM MDT in Rockpile

And if you want to go, be prepared to wait in line or staring at a screen for some time when tickets go on sale. Or you could spend 12 grand for two box tickets behind the visitors' dugout on 27 Oct.

Maybe by the time the World Series kicks off on 24 October, Jayson Stark will believe this just did happen. I could barely sleep last night. I just kept thinking, "The Rockies are in the World Series. The Rockies are in the World Series. . . ." And I'm still telling myself, "The Rockies are going to the World Series!" Littwin put it best in his latest piece: "When the Rockies go to the World Series - when the Colorado Rockies go to the World Series - all bets are off."

Who's the happiest man on earth right now? How could Todd Helton not be? After so many struggles, he's ready to enter territory Broncos great John Elway had to wait for so long as well.

Also, thank Seth Smith for being this team's good luck charm.

The Rockies are in the World Series!

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I woke up this morning

And the Rockies are still going to the World Series!

by 108stitches on Oct 16, 2007 7:53 AM MDT reply actions

newspapers

Awesome huh? Every time I walk past a news-stand it hits me again, and each time I'm still somewhat shocked!

Anyone know which method of obtaining tickets has a higher probability? The website says they both go to the same central computer - but I'm wondering what the ratio of tellers at the stadium to number of accessible clients online is... any thoughts?

by boulderinionian on Oct 16, 2007 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions

I keep pinching myself....

I still can't believe that they are there!!!!! Oh my gosh! I had all my family watching last night and everyone at work as well! So, just another two weeks of not talking and only texting my boyfriend and we'll be the World Series Champs!

Peluche's Girl

by wsmith on Oct 16, 2007 8:33 AM MDT reply actions

I love Drew Littleton's NewRockies Logo

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/archives/2007/10/mile_high_miracle.html

Going to the World Series, The Rockies are going to the World Series...still doing the happy dance!

Resign Kazuo Matsui! Hurdle is still an idiot!

by Redhawk on Oct 16, 2007 8:52 AM MDT reply actions

Sweep

SI.com has the following opening paragraph in an article by John Donavan about the Rockies win last night;
"The broom came sailing from somewhere in the outfield decks at Coors Field, flying out of the heart of a mile-high throng of delirium-struck baseball fans. It stuck, handle first, into the outfield grass in right-center field, standing there as a kind of inverted exclamation point to a statement that the hometown Rockies made loudly and oh-so-clearly here Monday night."
Does anyone know if this actually happened or is he just talking about a metaphorical broom? If this did happen does anyone know where i can find apic of it, cause thats awesome?

by amazincollapse on Oct 16, 2007 9:05 AM MDT reply actions

What's in your watercooler?

And can we have some? Way to go guys. It's good to see the team with the fans who care make it all the way. Despite all that "AAAA" crap, either us or the Indians are gonna have their hands full. Good luck!!

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 9:27 AM MDT reply actions

As a Sox fan

I'm sure like many others reality isn't a big thing for you, but just so you will know, and can spread it around......The Rockies played you this year...at Fenway by the way...record: Rockies 2, Boston 1. Against the Yankees: 3-0. @ Orioles 2-1. vs. Tampa Bay 2-1. @ Toronto Blue Jays not so great 0-3. Rockies vs the AL East 9-6

So yeah, we have no chance against the mightiest of the mighties, that being the true MLB champion, who ever wins the AL...THE real league. No NL club could ever win a World Series, especially a Wild Card team.....Really? Just last year? See I watch ESPN a lot, and I thought the Red Sox won the Series every year for the last 5 years....who knew?

Dear Boston and both New York teams, you can't buy a pennant every year, try as you might.

Resign Kazuo Matsui! Hurdle is still an idiot!

by Redhawk on Oct 16, 2007 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions

Hey Redhawk

I was agreeing with you...the Rox were very good this year against the AL. That "AAAA" stuff is ridculous - I mean look at the Marlins...or hell, the D-Backs for that matter.

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions

Um,

The Cardinals weren't the Wild Card. Do you really think you could win the wild card with only 83 wins?

by Kindred @ Purple Row on Oct 16, 2007 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions

Don't let

facts get in the way of a good story!

Resign Kazuo Matsui! Hurdle is still an idiot!

by Redhawk on Oct 17, 2007 1:30 AM MDT up reply actions

Lets just say

that the secret watercooler ingredient creates the oft-mentioned "Rocky Mountain High." :o)

I'm not expecting the sweeps to continue in the WS; both teams in the ALCS will be tough. But it should be a great set of games!

~Uffdah

by DiscoStu on Oct 16, 2007 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions

20 of 21

Hell boxers fighting patsies don't go undefeated 20 times! This is almost supernatural to watch. See you all next week! (I hope.)

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions

8 Days to savor the victory...

And back to work. 4 more wins

I was really nervous about this layoff. Then TBS mentioned that since '69 (IIRC) teams with 5+ days off before the world series are 7 of 10.

Maybe I read it wrong, but it calmed me down.

8 days to heal the bruises, contusions, aches and pains of 163 regular season games, and 7 playoff games.

8 days to rest weary arms after hundreds of innings pitched.

8 days to practice your swing, get your reps, throw on the side, check your mechanics.

8 days to spend with family that they've seen little of since February, in some cases.

8 days to celebrate, for the fans, the improbable, impossible, unbelievablem, undeniable; for the players, what they believed in all along, what they've worked all their lives towards.

and then, 9 days (or less) to history.

by comedian on Oct 16, 2007 9:55 AM MDT reply actions

Sunk in yet?

Ive been calling myself an honorary Rockie fan...I hope you dont mind. Technically its not bandwagoning, as theyve always been one of the big 3 I always watch during the year.

by Slica on Oct 16, 2007 11:08 AM MDT reply actions

Good luck charm

Nothing honorary about it, you put in the time and made the emotional investment and you seemed to bring the luck with you as well. Welcome. :)

by MADness on Oct 16, 2007 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions

is there a way we can find

how many times matty has a hr after a hbp

ARIZONA FANS SUCK

by roxfan4life on Oct 16, 2007 11:30 AM MDT reply actions

Good question

After he got HBP I thought to myself "I bet he'll homer in this game" I wish I had told my wife that so I would have confirmation. He does seem to hit a lot more in games with a hbp though.

by Blake20th on Oct 16, 2007 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions

Well...

I was curious about this too, so I did some checking around. As far as I can tell, it happened just once in the regular season. September 11 against the Phillies. He was hit by a pitch nine other times, and didn't homer in any of the other games, except September 19 against the Dodgers, where he got plunked after hitting two HRs earlier in the game.

Then he did it last night. So twice this season, but still, 2 out of 11 isn't all that bad.

Since I'm not primarily a Rockies fan, I don't care enough to look back at previous seasons. Sorry. lol

by azdb7 on Oct 16, 2007 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions

This is mostly a myth we like to perpetuate, but

In 2007:

The first and only time he did it wasn't until September 9, against the Padres. However, in June, against the Astros, he did double twice after getting visibly angry by an HBP.

There was this game in 2006, on September 19, against Matt Cain and the Giants where Cain hit him, Matt got mad and hit this mammoth shot his next AB, jawing to Cain all the time. Coincidently, exactly one year later at the beginning of this run he hit 2 homeruns against the Dodgers and then was hit by a pitch.

Earlier in 2006, there was this May game against the Cardinals where Matt got the HBP his first time up and then homered twice.

There aren't any other cases in his career where it's happened that the HBP precedes an HR besides last night, but several where HR's precede HBP's. I'm going to have to tally the stats, but I think you'll find Matt's stats to go way up in games where he's hit, although I'm willing to bet it's more an effect of teams having a game plan of foolishly trying to challenge him inside rather than some sort of Hulklike superhuman prowess.

by Rox Girl on Oct 16, 2007 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions

Sometimes

The myth is just much more interesting. It makes me laugh though, I posted this about him in the Rockies NLCS guide over on the SnakePit:

LF Matt Holliday: MVP. Not great defensively, but still average to slightly above when you grade him against the rest of the dogs in the league. Byrnes has him beat defensively, but everytime he comes up be afraid. Oh, and don't make him angry (HBP). He has a bad habit of hitting in 450+ if you tick him off.

Then last night, I was sitting there laughing when Owings hit 'em. Turned to my roommate, said half serious- "Game's over. Holliday's going to crush one his next AB." Sometimes, you just know...

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Oct 16, 2007 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions

Congrats and best wishes

From an Orioles fan. You guys have an exciting, almost magical team. Naturally I'm jealous, but I'm also very happy for all of you fans who have stuck through the hard times and are now reaping the benefits. Here's hoping the Rockies demolish whichever AL teams makes it to the series.

by Stacey on Oct 16, 2007 11:41 AM MDT reply actions

Now now....

Stacy. Let's not take it that far. Where's the love for a fellow division rival? ;)

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions

opps

Sorry...meant to have an "e" there!

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions

Actually....

I do think we should share this run with fans of all the so-called "have-nots". There's plenty of room on the bandwagon for supporters of the Devil rays, Royals, O's and Pirates.

Come along Marlins fans (they won't take up too much room and they'll bring the pina coladas).

Hop on Nationals fans, and weclome aboard Texas Rangers rooters.

This one is for all the teams about whom it's been said "they'll never win it all."

You really never do know.....

by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 16, 2007 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions

Can us Dbacks fans stay onboard?

I figure, it's only fair, since the Marlins have already won two titles, and our 2004 season was waaay worse than any Marlins season so far. :(

Besides, the Royals, O's and Pirates have won too. Dbacks, Rox and Injuns are proving this year that you don't have to buy all your players to be good.

Please? We'll bring tequila??

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 16, 2007 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions

Sure

You can stay. Why not. ;) After all, once we win our title, we'll be in the same boat.

Get Demented. Mother of the Baby Tulos; available at fair price for your Tulo-less ballclubs.

by Silverblood on Oct 16, 2007 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions

And

That'll leave the Padres as the only team in the NL West that hasn't won a World Series. Take that, San Diego!

Of course, the Giants haven't won one since they moved to San Francisco, either.

Friendly visiting D-backs fan from Out in the Desert

by Devin on Oct 17, 2007 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions

And may the Giants

never, ever win again, amen. Pads not winning wouldn't rile me much either; their fans' constant, constant whining made me lose a lot of respect for them.

Get Demented. Mother of the Baby Tulos; available at fair price for your Tulo-less ballclubs.

by Silverblood on Oct 17, 2007 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions

Excellent points, my Sedona Red komrade.

Oh... and in response to Silverblood, Padres fans whine??? You're kidding me... since when??

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 12:16 AM MDT up reply actions

Haha

I'm glad we have the support of the D'Backs nation in that one. At least, support in the form of not whining constantly. :) I'd love to see D'Backs fans stick around; hell, I'd love to see the entire NL get on board. The Rockies are, after all, your representative and the only chance at shutting up the League of AL-Superiority Sports Writers.

by oo_nrb on Oct 17, 2007 12:35 AM MDT up reply actions

Amen, brother.

Actually, I was planning on starting a blog called www.justinuptonthoughthewasplayingbaseball.com or else www.ericbyrneswastotallysafeattheendofgamefour.com or maybe www.thatballwasastrikewhentherockiesthrewitbutnowitsaball.com.

Knowing Padres fans, I'm surprised it was posted in a blog, rather than a MySpace bulletin.

But I digress. There's a reason we're the Senior League. We don't need no wussy designated hitter. We don't sit around, fat and lazy, trying to hit the ball out of the park. We manufacture runs.

Beat the AL, Rockies. My brief bout of bitterness is already behind me.

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions

Don't forget

We're also planning to roll out www.timmclellanhatesusbothindividuallyandasagroup.com and www.therockiesusedatimemachinetocauserandyjohnsonsherniateddiscin2006andtimetravelshouldbeprohibited bytheMLB.net.

(The .com version was taken.)

Friendly visiting D-backs fan from Out in the Desert

by Devin on Oct 17, 2007 1:14 AM MDT up reply actions

It's all true!

Man, I'm tired enough of hearing how the AL is the superior league that I'd cheer for anyone from the NL to win it! Okay, two exceptions for that. I'd cheer for the Mariners (my sister writes a Mariners blog) and I wouldn't cheer for the Giants. But I at least wouldn't actively cheer against the Giants.

Well, not much.

Friendly visiting D-backs fan from Out in the Desert

by Devin on Oct 17, 2007 1:19 AM MDT up reply actions

I'm a fan of an AL team

But I personally don't feel any loyalty to the American League in general. Nor do I feel that either league is superior; they're just different.

I feel loyalty to teams that build their teams in what I feel is the "right" way. Teams like the Rockies, D-Backs, Tigers, Indians, they prove that you don't have to spend $200 million to compete. They also give hope to a team like mine. The Orioles are hopelessly trying to compete with the Red Sox and Yankees through spending, and they keep failing. It's awful. But if they ever get their acts together, they could beat the Yankees and the Red Sox without spending the money. And I know that by looking at teams like the Indians and the Tigers. And those are the teams I feel affection for, not teams that just happen to be in my league or division.

by Stacey on Oct 17, 2007 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions

Ahah!

It was the promise of tequila, wasn't it? :-D

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions

You bet and

are you going to be bringing limes as well?

Peluche's Girl

by wsmith on Oct 17, 2007 7:12 AM MDT up reply actions

Yeah, okay.

I'll bring the salt, too. We'll do tequila shots on the Rox bandwagon. Somebody's gonna have to watch out for the cops, though.

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions

Does anyone know

if FSN rocky mountain is going to have videos or replays of the interviews Spilly was giving his teammates? I would LOVE to see that.

www.myspace.com/notthisday.com

by Squeaky on Oct 16, 2007 12:55 PM MDT reply actions

this

would be fantastic. Please post if anyone finds anything.

It's Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time It's Tulowitzki!...Tulo-witzki-witzki-witzki ..... rockiesmagicnumber.blogspot.com

by Andrew Martin on Oct 16, 2007 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions

Or at least...

give some sort of idea what happened, who said what, etc.

www.myspace.com/notthisday.com

by Squeaky on Oct 16, 2007 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions

Didn't get to bed until 4:15 am ET

didn't get up until 2:50 pm. Exhausted and happy, now I'm up and ready to read more about it and soak it in. :D

Get Demented. Mother of the Baby Tulos; available at fair price for your Tulo-less ballclubs.

by Silverblood on Oct 16, 2007 12:58 PM MDT reply actions

Aaacck!!!

Drew Barrymore and Matthew McConaughey in Mile High Desire

This would be totally against the Rules. Bad. Bad.

Peace. Love. Rockies.

by Rox Girl on Oct 16, 2007 3:27 PM MDT reply actions

At least it's a joke for you...

Some of us have to contend wth Jimmy Fallon having taken a dump all over our most sacred baseball moment since the Theodore Roosevelt Administration.

Lurking Red Sox Fan

by B Cap on Oct 16, 2007 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions

Celebration! And a Monfort Rant!

So before I get bashing...woohoo, ROCKIES WIN THE PENNANT!

Now...did anyone else dislike the Monforts raising the NL Trophy first? McGregor had the right idea...as soon as he got it, he passed it right off to Todd. Todd's been the one who has been fighting for this organization for the past 10 seasons, giving his all, providing much-needed veteran leadership, and up until this season, was the only reason anyone outside of Colorado even knew the Rockies existed. I really hope that, if the Rockies do go on to win the World Series, that the Monforts get it right and give the Commissioner's Trophy to Todd to raise first.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

by oo_nrb on Oct 16, 2007 3:59 PM MDT reply actions

As for me

I'm still smacking my forehead at the "God's Stadium" remark and saying, Um, Charlie? We just spent a season trying to dissuade the media this isn't Team Jesus, at least not by the player's perspective. You probably screwed that up with one sentence. Here we go again...

www.myspace.com/notthisday.com

by Squeaky on Oct 16, 2007 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions

Well, we know that the Monforts are tools

and we've tried to tell everyone that's not what the players think, only the front office...

Get Demented. Mother of the Baby Tulos; available at fair price for your Tulo-less ballclubs.

by Silverblood on Oct 16, 2007 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions

Monforts getting booed

kind of made me laugh for a minute. I mean the team just wins the NL pennant and the owners are being booed. Then I felt bad and thought they deserve to enjoy it too, maybe they are cheap, but lets make them prove it over the next couple of years before going too crazy on them.

I have been a fan of going at it w/ building from within for awhile and I thought it would be a good plan. Didn't expect it to work this well this fast, but I think the Rockies have a real chance to be perennial contenders. We definitely need to keep our talent evaluators around, and they deserve a lot of the credit for this too.

As far as the players giving praise to God or even the Monforts, I have no problem w/ it. Thats a personal belief of theirs and I think its ok to share it if someone is asking you questions. I'm not sure whether God cares about baseball games and the final outcome, but I'm sure He cares about the players on both teams. Whatever the reason is, it has been a crazy ride and it has happened in the wildest way. I just hope to enjoy it all the way to a WS Championship!

by smokinRox on Oct 16, 2007 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions

I received an e-mail

from, I guess, a regular site reader who wanted me to post the following:

I was at the game last night to watch the Rockies take their first-ever pennant.

In a moving moment, the honorary first ball was thrown by the 10-year old sister of Highlands Ranch teenager Kyle Blakeman. You may have read about Kyle's story in the Denver Post and the number 64 and the fact that Hurdle started writing "64" on his lineup card in September (when the Rockies had 64 losses) for every game thereafter. Here it is (a very moving story):

After reading the story, consider the following from last night:

* Hurdle took a gamble in the 4th inning and lifted the pitcher, Franklin Morales, after throwing 64 pitches.
* In inning # 4, the Rockies scored 6 runs.
* The final score was 6 - 4.

Kind of gives me goosebumps.

Go Rockies!

"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence

by Russ Oates on Oct 16, 2007 5:28 PM MDT reply actions

Good article

I read that article about Kyle Blakeman a couple of days ago (or whenever it was published).

Touching article, recommended read for anyone who hasn't read it yet.

by MADness on Oct 16, 2007 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions

Expect to see this story repeated some more

If Fox and the national media are looking to put some color into these "colorless" Rockies, that could start with this story angle. By the way, my thoughts and prayers go out to Kyle's family. I can't imagine anything tougher than losing your child so suddenly.

by DakotaBoy on Oct 17, 2007 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions

What?

Did the national media forget already about 'Team Jesus' and 'Humidor Field'? Because those are pretty much the only stories I've heard....

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions

Wow that's...

freaky...strange. What a coincidence.

There's only one Rocktober!!

by Charlie77 on Oct 16, 2007 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions

Freaky, strange, and....

I don't know what else. I'm not a particularly religious man, but things like this make me wonder if maybe there isn't an "angel in the outfield" looking over these guys. Gives me the creeps and tweaks at the "waterworks" all at once.

But I dare say that Clint will be writing that number on every lineup card during the WORLD SERIES THAT OUR ROCKIES ARE IN!!!!!!!!!!!

GO ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Wishes come true, not free." - Stephen Sondheim

by rockhead on Oct 16, 2007 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions

Between him

and Mike Coolbaugh, I think we've got the angels covered.

I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel

by Behrens on Oct 16, 2007 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions

'angel in the outfield'

We KNEW it!! Argh....

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 16, 2007 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions

That's a fantastic story

Very moving. And it does explain a lot. :) .

by oo_nrb on Oct 17, 2007 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions

Yeah.

Now I understand the Rockies. See, it's NOT Jebus. It's been the number 64 all along.

I'm DbacksSkins... I hail from here and here.

by DbacksSkins on Oct 17, 2007 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions

I want a poster...

And not just any poster...

I want a poster with Todd Helton, his hands raised in the air as he has just secured the final out in Game 4. The joy on his face is priceless.

Oh, and I want the poster to include Eric Byrnes flat on his face behind him as he tried to slide in to beat the throw. Because if there is irony in this world, that is it right there.

by adjamemnon on Oct 16, 2007 10:41 PM MDT reply actions

MLB.com Photos

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2007/archive.jsp?series=lcs_b&type=photos

Here are some photos of the game and celebration. A really good one of Helton with his head held high!! (Byrnes is there too!!)

I assume the Post and News have photos somewhere. Please post if you know where.

GO ROCKS!!!

TGFPR!!

by jlot10 on Oct 17, 2007 7:46 AM MDT reply actions

Re: Eric Byrnes flat on his face and irony

On yesterday's morning call-in to KOA, Clint Hurdle used the words "dripping with irony" to describe Byrne's desperate attempt to make it to first base. I do admire Byrne's tenacity and attempt to light a fire. Personally, I didn't think his comments were that bad and were taken out of context. Why, though, does he insist on leaving his feet when he makes a throw from the outfield attempting to cut off a runner. The only parallel that I can think of is a discus thrower. Very odd.

by DakotaBoy on Oct 17, 2007 9:10 AM MDT reply actions

Eric Byrnes

...because when he makes a spectacular throw with the whole somersault thing, it's amazing! And when he hits a great home run with the whole arms in the air, jump toward the first base line, it's so exciting! And when he gets the front of his jersey all dirty from hustling to get a ball, it's just thrilling.

But when he overthrows, or hits a fly ball, or misses the line drive...um, never mind.

We love him because of his exciting play, and his fire, and his attitude. Sometimes he's a dork, but he's our dork, ya know?

Friendly Diamondbacks Visitor

by 4CornersFan on Oct 17, 2007 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions

Nothing wrong

with intensity and passion. I think people are on his case after making the "outplaying" and "I'm going to lead by example" comments, but not really doing anything in the series (which makes his intensity look foolish at times.)

Good player, and probably a good leader. Just not the right things to say given the situations.

~Uffdah

by DiscoStu on Oct 17, 2007 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions

Eric Byrnes mouthy

Yeah, he's a little mouthy sometimes in an effort to fire up the team. Here's what he said about the booing. (Good attitude, I think, and he faces up to his lack of offense in the game.)

Outfielder Eric Byrnes was booed loudly every time he came to the plate in Colorado, where on Saturday he suggested the Rockies were lucky to have a 2-0 lead in the series.

"Were they booing?" he deadpanned Monday night. "I kind of had fun with it, enjoyed it, played with the fans in the outfield.

"Look, I'm always going to speak my mind. I spoke my mind the other day, and I was telling the truth. I stand up here today and I'll tell you the exact same truth.

"One of the main reasons we didn't win this series is because I didn't hit (expletive). Simple as that. And your middle-of-the-order guy has to produce. It definitely started with me."

Friendly Diamondbacks Visitor

by 4CornersFan on Oct 17, 2007 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions