World Series Game #4: Jon Lester vs. Aaron Cook
Time for that 4-game win streak start, and what better way to do it than with our Opening Day starter!
Go Rockies!
Update [2007-10-29 0:22:15 by Russ]: Congratulations to the Red Sox!
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Go Rockies....
It could happen...
The power of the beard.
The magic of number 64.
Coolbaugh's sons throwing out the first pitch.
and every other amazing thing that has happened to create the most memorable October in Colorado history.
LET'S-GO-ROCK--IES--!!
Game 3 first pitch?
GO ROCKIES!
I believe...
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes...
Tonight it's Mike Coolbaugh's sons, I heard.
Of course,
But, if it goes to game 5, it really would be a kick to see Walker, Dante, Gallaraga and Vinny out there.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Vinny actually brought the ball to the mound
Good choices
Why show the first pitch when FOX can
by tailgateparty on Oct 28, 2007 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
that's interesting to me
oh that's right,
It could have been
Nice story
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3083332&sportCa t=mlb
Really puts it in perspective.
But that doesn't mean I don't want a win! Come on, Rockies, let's put it all together and pull one out!
Whatever happens
That said, come on Rox! Let's get this one tonight!!
GO ROCKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're going to win tonight.
I just wish we could have done it when I was there.
Yay, optimism!
I feel good too.
But they'll get the job done tonight, I do believe.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
At any rate
If there's such a thing pitching, Cook is pretty much a known commodity. Not by ERA standards or anything, but you do know he'll pound the sinker, walk and K few, and leave the brunt of the work to the defense.
Here's to those grounders finding Rockies' gloves tonight and not open spaces!
Rox girl...
I'm working on a post for Yahoo
Urgh. I just need to vent somewhere about Hurdle constantly playing the infield in on man on third situations. It backfired last night in the third inning, it backfired just now. Stop it Clint. You're overmanaging us out of the series.
So you're saying..
glad somebody is...
At any rate, thank you.
Did you realize...
I mentioned that the posters
I have to say,
Are those fabricated Tu-lo chants?
Either way, I think those, and the mass of signs from the late run on, show that Tulo is already the face of the franchise.
Ya got me.
Either way, it seemed pretty loud.
At the game...
the rhythmic clapping
Fans love a throwback
Tonights lineups
K Matsui 2B
T Tulowitzki SS
M Holliday LF
T Helton 1B
G Atkins 3B
R Spilborghs CF
B Hawpe RF
Y Torrealba C
A Cook P
Evil Chowder Empire:
J Ellsbury CF
D Pedroia 2B
D Ortiz 1B
M Ramirez LF
M Lowell 3B
J Drew RF
J Varitek C
J Lugo SS
J Lester P
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 6:09 PM MDT reply actions
I'd rather see
Yeah really
One strategy I could live without
The DP made it all for naught, but it's better to just surrender the one run to avoid the potential big inning.
I said the same thing above.
Not an awful start for Cook.
Atkins has actually looked solid defensively
From what I've seen..
Statistically
He dove and missed a line drive
One of the ones I'm thinking of
Looking at the pitching numbers on Gameday
When is Fox..
David Ortiz has looked great at first
Watch out
Smart move ...
I certainly hope so,
Atkins is killing us offensively
He hasn't hit a lick since the regular season and it's getting really, really old.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:08 PM MDT reply actions
Too bad
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions
What's for dinner?
I've got my wife's seven layer dip, some chips, popcorn and Pepsi.
Turkey/Provalone sandwich to start
I must say that last night before the game, I went to Taco Bell. No need to harass me, I'm already ashamed of myself.
Oh yeah,
Royce Clayton says he wasn't paid to say any of those things, but I don't believe him.
I would have believed him after the first day,
Made myself some spaghetti.
Last night...
April losing streak, facing Saito in September down by one in extra innings, etc.
Cookie looks great
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 7:17 PM MDT reply actions
And not just pitching
There's only ONE Micah Owings.
There's Ickimore's
Finally, a forecasted defensive miscue
exactly
Notice his defensive miscue wasn't in Fenway. Also notice that if he was as terrible as advertised, his defensive miscue would have come up prior to game 4. Also note I said that Ortiz, although he is much maligned in the field, is really not that bad except for his lack of range.
As you may or may not have noticed, there are many things that are considered common knowledge about the skill sets of major league players that are not necessarily 100% accurate. It is the case with Rox players as with Sox players. Unfortunately, these common knowledge stereotypes get perpetuated by the poor media coverage. That is why scouting reports from the fans of the respective teams can be useful, and learning about your players was the whole reason I came here in the first place.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:11 AM MDT up reply actions
As an outfielder,
Manny can play perfectly at Fenway; he's got the monster to help him out. But the Red Sox still play 1/2 of their games in other stadiums. There's a good reason Francona switched Manny with Jacoby Ellsbury last night, because there's no way Manny catches that ball from Jamey Carroll.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 29, 2007 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I just can't get mad at Tulo
It's frustrating..
Lester looks very good tonight
However, he's given the Rockies two opportunities with a runner in scoring position that we failed to cash in on. It's sad, but oh so predictable right now.
9-1 GB/FB ratio for Cook right now
Well, so much for....
:(
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:28 PM MDT reply actions
Thanks for...
Next time you come back, try some fresh material.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:29 PM MDT reply actions
erased the troll this comment is referring to
Heh
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Tulo
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 7:30 PM MDT reply actions
I've been looking forward
Good for Cookie
Next year's rotation starting to look pretty good, eh?
Francis, Cook, Ubaldo, Morales, Hirsh. Maybe a vet tossed in there.
Not too shabby.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:35 PM MDT reply actions
I like it...
Hirsch looked good before his injury. It will be interesting to see the growth he displays next season.
Damn....
I guess they've still got Gagne....??
Pushing their luck...
Technically the ump can throw them out for doing that.
Nice.
That was..
He took out 2/3 of the Padres outfield that day.
what was up with
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 7:42 PM MDT reply actions
Argh... I hate Brad Hawpe
When exactly,
This is really agonizing to watch.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 7:47 PM MDT reply actions
Hey, don't insult Danny Ardoin.
Wow....
That would make him twice the hitter
Boston should..
Really?
It's not going to be an entirely internal affair, like Bill Belichick's cheating tapes, is it?
Doubt it
As for the other part I wasn't considering until now, how might the Mitchell report shape the off-season?
Let's say hypothetically that Torii Hunter gets pinned in the report. Will that cause potential PR nightmares for interested teams? Maybe Hunter was too big of a name, but a lesser free agent could be crushed by the Mitchell Report.
Rumors..
But then, during the season all that was ever mentioned about the report was how no one was talking to George Mitchell. So who knows what's true and what was prescribed by a respected doctor of dentistry.
By a respected doctor of dentistry
But there's nothing at all suspicious or unethical about that. It's clearly on the up-and-up.
Why is it...
but the Pitchers caught using are wannabes like Byrd?
Eric Gagne?
Besides, for all we know, without the HGH, Byrd would have sucked even more. Might not have been in the majors without it.
Gagne
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by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:17 AM MDT up reply actions
and now comes
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 7:53 PM MDT reply actions
Lester trying to bunt.
bostons pitchers
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Anyone else see the Yankees hat?
He's hallucinating the Red Sox as the Yankees.
by tailgateparty on Oct 28, 2007 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Props to Cookie
Now, for god sakes,
SCORE
SOME
FREAKING
RUNS.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:01 PM MDT reply actions
Nice job by Cookie!
I'm not a big fan of Yorvit but...
I've noticed that Yorvit
So here's my point
Maybe I'm seeing something that's not there. Just something to keep me occupied while the hundredth commercial drones on.
I thought the slider...
I was hoping to see...
Francis was out of gas
Plus, you guys have some pretty decent hitters if you haven't noticed. I don't get why we're allowing so much to Julio Lugo, though. That's still a mystery to me.
Lugo
He far surprised his career best year in RBIs this year. He hit more RBIs than JD Drew on the season, and they both had similar number of at bats. I haven't really looked up his batting average with runners in scoring position, but I'm guessing that Lugo was appreciably better with men on base.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm enjoying...
I just ate some Franch Vanilla gelato
His fan points are soaring right now
Welcome back Aaron Cook!
Seriously...
Hi guys sox fan back
you guys have nothing to hang your heads about. Your team and fans are a class act, and you won't
believe how much better you guys will do next year
once you get to the big show again.
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:10 PM MDT reply actions
This may be the most pathetic
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:10 PM MDT reply actions
Funny thing is...
Ouch...
I don't want to end up on Jim Rome taking questions from fans in Nantucket.
something funny...
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 8:11 PM MDT reply actions
That's what happens
Not only 15 Ks, but he's 0-40.
I really don't know....
It's just beyond belief, really.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:11 PM MDT reply actions
Here's a positive!
That's really something to feel good about.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:13 PM MDT reply actions
But the Taco Bell curse will be tattoed
by tailgateparty on Oct 28, 2007 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree, it was more than a mouthful.
by tailgateparty on Oct 28, 2007 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I want to win
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:14 PM MDT reply actions
I hope so too..
Where are your seats at?
If it makes you feel any better...
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:15 PM MDT reply actions
That's the first time..
There's a guy over on
bad a manager Tito Francona is. Talk about an idiot, Francona's only 7-0 in World Series games. This guy wants the Sox to fire Francona.
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:18 PM MDT reply actions
That's a theory I've formulated this year.
What percentage of D'Backs fans
I still prefer Corpas to Valverde, but if you are interested in Fuentes...
Actually
Oh... and nobody is interested in Fuentes, especially after last night....
I don't think Fuentes is going anywhere
I know this will upset many fans here after his series of implosions this year, but if we can find him a right handed partner for the eighth (before Weathers gets here), we'll be more euipped to hide his faults and yank him when things hint at heading south. He's been a pretty darn good set up man down the stretch, and he can still be good, but 6-7 million good? That's a tough arb figure for our budget.
I wasn't impressed with Francona..
It's amazing how a change of venue can help. Of course it didn't help Buddy Bell when he moved from Colorado to Kansas City.
There's always one
If you guys don't want him, you know where to send him.
The 2004 Sox made the
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:21 PM MDT reply actions
better story, worse team
I really like Hurdle myself
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:22 PM MDT reply actions
I think Hurdle the man
I think Hurdle the "player's manger" is pretty good.
Hurdle that strategen is in the bottom tier of MLB managers.
Just shows how little manager strategy matters, I guess (Manuel and Wedge also had good runs, go figure). However, a good GM is infinitely more important, and while Theo is my all time fave, I'm a big fan of our current one (Macri trade notwithstanding).
Joe Garagiolo
player in the majors is all.
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:23 PM MDT reply actions
Mannt and his helmet...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
<cough> I meant Manny.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
sometimes
Manny is a strange one. Manny and Ortiz had a poor series this WS, and Manny had one of his worst years at the plate during the season, although I'm sure his oblique injury caused a good deal of that.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Joe G is old skool like that.
When you say..
100% of Joe Garagiola
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Ty Cobb's in the HOF as well,
Being in the HOF is not necessarily a badge of honor.
manny is no
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Joe
Now, that being said, Manny will not win any gold gloves despite his Fenway fielding prowess, he will not steal any bases unless it is by accident, and he won't ever lay down a perfect bunt unless it is luck.
What he will do most years is hit 30-35 home runs and 100-120 RBIs with a batting average around .300 from the right side of the plate. That's pretty darn hard to come by, and will get him in the HOF if he keeps performing.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:34 AM MDT up reply actions
A-Rod.
by duke on Oct 29, 2007 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Pinch hit Seth Smith right now.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:26 PM MDT reply actions
Change of pitchers, maybe some good change
by tailgateparty on Oct 28, 2007 8:26 PM MDT reply actions
Spilly, time to hit the ball.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:28 PM MDT reply actions
Come on!
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:29 PM MDT up reply actions
that
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:29 PM MDT reply actions
There IS no God....
God works in mysterious ways...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I mean, just imagine the 4 game come back!
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
God is dead! God remains dead!
Every guy in the Sox pen...
Our lineup is pretty much serving in the role of the Washington Generals right about now.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:32 PM MDT reply actions
Bah! Lowell takes Cook out
This is depressing.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:34 PM MDT reply actions
Anyone want some Game 5 Tickets?
Either way, it's prety clear I'll have no other use for them.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:34 PM MDT reply actions
According to the radio,
Not related to what's going on, just figured it was big news.
Isn't he technically supposed to wait until the WS is over? Or are they thinking it's close enough...
He must have announced it
we'll see if the Yankees are in fact done with him, but if so, does anyone think they would entertain an Atkins/prospect for Cano deal?
Well,
Lowell's got a lot more heart and more intangibles than A-Rod any day of the week.
Scott Boras
Just so you all know, if ARod opts out of his contract, then the Yankees lose $7 million per year from Texas as part of the previous ARod move. As a result, the Yankees have publicly announced that if ARod opts out they will offer him no pay increase.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:39 AM MDT up reply actions
I know the Yankees
Maybe if we all ignore ARod, he'll just go away. Technically, he can't be a free agent until AFTER the WS anyway, so it was equally classless to make the announcement while the WS was going on.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 29, 2007 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions
Bye, bye Sox
Mike Lowell, Curt Schilling, CoCo Crisp, Timlin?
bye bye Sox
As for Timlin, he's 41 years old and missed much of the season due to injury and looked horrible when he first came back. I'm not so sure he has much left in the tank, so I wouldn't be sorry to see him go either.
Schilling is worth bringing back, but if he leaves the Sox rotation will still be in good shape barring injury (in case you haven't noticed, the Sox have decent pitching). At 40 Schilling has lost his 95 mph fastball and needs to rely on location. He also missed much of the season due to a shoulder injury. I don't know as he will give that much to the team next year, but his veteran leadership and postseason experience are good to have to go along with enough skill to still get the job done in the big games.
Lowell needs to be re-signed. Period. I don't want ARod, and I don't see any other free agent 3B out there any better than Lowell. Plus, Lowell is one of the leaders in the clubhouse and is beloved by the hispanic members of the team.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 1:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Tip of the cap to Cook
Well at least it's clear
Pretty pathetic
However this is the pre streak Rockies, inconsistent, sometimes anemic and mostly losers.
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:38 PM MDT reply actions
They're NOT 'losers.'
In the context if you take the streak out
More or less a fluke.
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions
No way
This team was the real deal. No way the "fluke" argument will stick with knowledgeable fans.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't agree with it
y'know
it's all about the scoreboard.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Win the West next year, eh?
I agree with the sentiment
Rox
However, without some off season moves I don't believe they can be a favorite to win the World Series next year based solely on their performance this series.
Their poor performance this series was due to quite a few factors in my opinion.
First, the layoff hurt them in game one, but I don't see how they could not have gotten the layoff issues straight in time for game two.
Second, they did come back down to Earth a bit. Every hitter goes through peaks and valleys throughout a season and a career. The Rockie's hitters were peaking at the same time for a few weeks, then for the playoffs (not just the WS) they entered a valley. The problem is, the valley came to too many of them at once.
Third, there's a few guys on that team that aren't that good a hitter, despite their season numbers. You don't strike out eight times in four games (or whatever) against all variety of pitchers in just a valley. Professional hitters make contact more often than not. I mean, we're not talking about facing Josh Beckett every game here.
Fourth, pitchers need to have good location to get by. You've got too many pitchers that made too many mistakes. Game one and game three were pitching disasters for the Rockie's. There's a couple guys on that staff that may need a lesser role next year. On most NL teams there's a couple guys in the lineup that rarely get hits (not just the pitcher). On a couple of teams there aren't many guys that can hit at all (i.e. Nationals). Pitchers with poor location can do ok against those teams. The top hitting teams in the AL don't work that way (Red Sox, Indians, Tigers, and Yankees would qualify right now). Poor location pitchers get hammered by them on a routine basis.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:02 AM MDT up reply actions
'More or less a fluke.'
Fluky or not, it doesn't take the WS title away from the Cardinals any more than it takes the pennant away from the Rockies.
This simply isn't true.
agreed
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:05 AM MDT up reply actions
We were 76-72 before the streak
Rox Girl
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not how you start the race,
You may have been 4th at the time, but you were 4th in the division with the best win % in the Majors this year.
Fourth in a division with four
The in-season part
We had to be doing something positive with the other 90% of games.
Also, a good 20% chunk of those was the underperforming month 1/2 opening the Rockies limped out on, so if you remove the high point and low point, you get a pretty darn good year.
Figures
No I'm just ticked
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Oops....
Fair enough
Nice flop Garrett
The whole team needs
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:43 PM MDT reply actions
Colorado needed...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 8:44 PM MDT reply actions
"The thin line between entertainment
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Theo Epstein
player, but the kid in center now is the Sox future, he has both a great glove and a hot bat. Curt Schilling is a great pitcher, but he'll be lucky to win a dozen games next year, less if he goes to a bad team.
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:49 PM MDT reply actions
No body here cares
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Who needs Schilling
Barring injury, it's tough to see how next year's Sox will be any worse than the current ones, and that's scary for the AL.
barring injury...
Hawpe...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:49 PM MDT reply actions
HAWPE!!
Now finish it! Like you didn't do
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:50 PM MDT reply actions
Do Rockies fans...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 8:53 PM MDT reply actions
Yes...
God Bless America
I realize there aren't any other MLB teams within the Rocky Mountain range. However, in basketball for example there is the Utah Jazz as well as the Denver Nuggets. Wouldn't the Utah Jazz's fans feel somehow slighted by the Denver fans taking ownership of the word "mountains"?
In addition, there are several other mountain ranges within the continental USA, albeit none as large as the Rocky's. Isn't it possible that the song is referring to the western California mountain range for example?
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Maybe...
by DbacksSkins on Oct 29, 2007 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Apparently,
Chevy reeally plays the
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
KazMat singles to get on,
Isn't Delcarmen
Looks like it was a good no trade then.
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 8:55 PM MDT reply actions
Helton
Since Youk can play 3B the only reason to have gotten Helton would be if the Sox didn't intend to re-sign Lowell, which I also believe would be a poor decision.
So, as far as Todd Helton goes, good player but not a good fit on the Sox due to the existing lineup. So I'd rather have Delcarmen.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice to see a Rockies rally...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 8:56 PM MDT reply actions
Boston pitchers can't throw strikes.
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 8:58 PM MDT reply actions
Altitude will do that to you
It could be worse, though. Our prospects have to pitch at Colorado Springs without a humidor. Talk about a confidence booster, "Here, take this dried out cue ball and throw it with no break or consistency with other AAA baseballs, and no, this isn't anything like what you'll epxerience in the majors..."
altitude
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by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I hate the patriotic stuff too...
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 8:58 PM MDT reply actions
God almighty.
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope that Gagne
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 9:01 PM MDT reply actions
<clap, clap, clap clap clap> Tulo!
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:01 PM MDT reply actions
3 Ks for Tulo....
Oh... Fuentes is coming in now.
Tulo =
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:03 PM MDT reply actions
When I went to the NLDS...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:04 PM MDT reply actions
Well it wouldn't be considered dramatic..
He did? Ohohhhh boy.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I mentioned this.
Wow, two strikeouts with the tying run @ the plate
Well, everyone, pretty much.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:06 PM MDT reply actions
Thank god this is almost over
What a total freaking drag.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:08 PM MDT reply actions
Fuentes...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:08 PM MDT reply actions
Bobby Freaking Kielty???
Bobby Kielty
The Sox did the same thing with Royce Clayton. They historically do this on a regular basis. Bring in veterans that are released for one reason or another just for their veteran experience on the bench. The Sox hate to use kids on the bench because they feel the young players are better served by playing every day in AAA. In most cases, the veterans are thrilled to be part of a winning team right at that point in time that they thought their baseball career might be done. Gabe Kapler was a good example of this practice quite a few years ago.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Fuentes
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:08 PM MDT reply actions
Is Fuentes...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:09 PM MDT reply actions
Can we just forfeit?
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:09 PM MDT reply actions
Boston to Clint Hurdle:
F&**# A-Rod
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:10 PM MDT reply actions
World Series Game 4
What a show boat
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:12 PM MDT reply actions
If it takes the focus off the Rockies
I don't know...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Brian Fuentes...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Well,
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:12 PM MDT reply actions
SHUT UP FOX
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:12 PM MDT reply actions
What'd they say?
Dudes! Rockies versus Red Sox!
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:13 PM MDT reply actions
Ellsbury will score from first
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 9:13 PM MDT reply actions
Will Carroll in his chat
Ellsbury seems as good as advertised.
Well now I'm sure you all hate Boston
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:13 PM MDT reply actions
You seriously don't want him?
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
He ain't won anything...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
ARod
If you want the best team on paper sign ARod, if you want to win a World Series steer clear of him. That's the line on ARod.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:40 AM MDT up reply actions
That's a sorry story...
www.firejoemorgan.com
by duke on Oct 29, 2007 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
If I heard correctly...
Nice job men..
Jack Buck=good.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:15 PM MDT reply actions
Yeah, that too...lol
by duke on Oct 29, 2007 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Great DP
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 9:15 PM MDT reply actions
Nice play Rox
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:15 PM MDT reply actions
Apology accepted
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Try dealing with that...
That's what we non-Giants non-Dodgers NL West fans have to put up with.
Guess what, I found an upside!
But guess what? We don't have to listen to Joe Buck and Tim "Mile High Stadium" McCarver for another year! I for one will be THRILLED to not have to listen to their blabber, and will welcome back Goodman and Fraizer with open arms. No more Fox showing the Red Sox bullpen constantly, showing incessant montages of the Red Sox...I will enjoy it, that's for sure.
Oh, and sweet DP! Tulo's glove and arm still work, that's for sure!
Are we still talking about this?
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:17 PM MDT reply actions
Thank you Hurdle...
Goodbye and Good Riddance Fuentes
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:19 PM MDT reply actions
Check and check
I'd even throw in Speier to get Garland.
Credit
Also, an Otsuka-for-Koshansky trade would be dependant on Otsuka passing a physical.
Now why would Hurdle bring in Fuentes
::Seeing nightmares of Byung-Hyung Kim::
Common thread...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Damn you all are making me
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Good point.
too bad
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:25 PM MDT reply actions
Hey, wait...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm actually a huge fan of both, as well...
what happened to
now if you could please point to the area on the doll where the commonwealth of massachusetts touched you.
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't hate ALL things Boston.
The Commonwealth touched me in Lowell, where I lived.
ahhh...
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmmm....
Hmmm...
what i meant was...
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
Dropkick is punk
by duke on Oct 29, 2007 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, Flogging Molly's from LA,
by DbacksSkins on Oct 29, 2007 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Well...
totally....
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:28 PM MDT reply actions
That was uncalled for.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:29 PM MDT reply actions
Bobby Kielty?
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:30 PM MDT reply actions
Someone on the Sox blog just said
Bullpen!" (I'm just reporting.)
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 9:30 PM MDT reply actions
A little sad...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:31 PM MDT reply actions
Celebration outside in Boston
Pink hat fans...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Not seeing a lot of pink hats.
Stats people?
And yes, this is painful. I just watched the DBacks play poorly and get swept, I'm getting some deja vu with the Rockies games. (I do have my rally cap on, tho!)
by 4CornersFan on Oct 28, 2007 9:33 PM MDT reply actions
I've been thinking the same thing.
I'm going to have baseball-induced post-traumatic stress in another 2 weeks or so.
Proper rally cap style
by 4CornersFan on Oct 28, 2007 9:34 PM MDT reply actions
OH YES OH YES!!
by 4CornersFan on Oct 28, 2007 9:35 PM MDT reply actions
That's what I'm talkin' about!!
Finally, Atkins!
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:36 PM MDT reply actions
1 RUN GAME!!
Wow, and Atkins was hitting .083 before that bomb, too.
Baseball's a funny game
So is anybody in Boston
Really. They've been the same sort of punch to the gut for both their teams.
Ironically
i think they'll
by mr bichette on Oct 28, 2007 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I think we're Okie fans
If I wasn't rocking my Ellsbury jersey, believe that I'd have Okajima strapped across my back.
by Jelly on Oct 28, 2007 9:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Okajima
The whole reason for that stupid trade was because the Sox almost signed Gagne in the offseason, but they were concerned with his injury situation, so they wouldn't guarantee him a position as the closer (back when Papelbon wanted to move to the starting rotation). Texas guaranteed him a position as their closer so Gagne chose Texas. So when Gagne proved himself healthy and Texas started shopping Gagne around, Boston was willing to give up too much to get him.
In retrospect, I'd much rather have Kason Gabbard back. I don't care if the kid had no long term rotation spot, he's a darn good pitcher.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Atkins hits that shot
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:37 PM MDT reply actions
Manny's the only showboat.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Is pumping the fist
Anyways...go Rockies!!!
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
That was Bobby Kielty.
Kielty
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 2:55 AM MDT up reply actions
That's my point.
Actually, we've got a LOT of young players. You're welcome for Chris Carter, future lefty DH/1B, by the way.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 29, 2007 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Definitely rocking the rally cap now.
Rally cap
by 4CornersFan on Oct 28, 2007 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Rally caps
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmm...
HANGING SPLITTER!! ARGH!!
Got a good piece of it
So... Torrealba, Smith, Matsui for the ninth, yet should Yorvit fail, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hurdle bat Taveras.
It's not a significant piece
We just can't risk having him fill any lengthy role in the lineup again. Or have a bench where he could potentially be needed for a big AB, regardless of his shallow sac fly in the play-in game.
I wrote something similar the other day
I think Troy Renck mentioned the possibility of trading Carroll a few weeks ago in order to free up $ for re-signing Matsui.
If he DOES get on,
Pfff...
Yeah let's bring in
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:50 PM MDT up reply actions
So, who's the pinch hitter?
Baker or Tavares, I guess.
Thoughts?
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:53 PM MDT reply actions
Good point....
Papelbon
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Any more difficult
Hmm...
I like Smith as the PH, as someone above me said. Experience matters, but Smith has shown he can be patient.
Smith
Smith
OTOH, I do like Baker, but righty on righty against Papelbon is even less appealing.
So yeah, it's smith.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 9:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Seth Smith
Well this should be half as hard
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 9:56 PM MDT reply actions
Well
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 9:56 PM MDT reply actions
In the NLCS Game 4,
And it begins....
2008 Opening Day
There.
Jacoby Freaking Ellsbury?? Are you SERIOUS???
Wow.
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 10:03 PM MDT reply actions
Tacoby Bellsbury
Ellsbury
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 10:04 PM MDT reply actions
HOFer
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 3:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Dammit Francona...
Wherever this goes from here
Well,
Is it just me, or does Manny seem smug? Oh well...
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 10:07 PM MDT reply actions
Well,
Hey man,
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
No, thank YOU.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh well...
Does this mean
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions
NL Champs
Great series, Rockies. See you next season!
by 4CornersFan on Oct 28, 2007 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I would like to welcome everyone...
Seriously
OK...
I'll be back in February...
You guys
by kemosabe on Oct 28, 2007 10:09 PM MDT reply actions
A tip of the cap...
Denver Brewers fan signing off, congratulations one more time Colorado, you'll be back.
by 108stitches on Oct 28, 2007 10:09 PM MDT reply actions
Is it too soon...
Just wanted to drop in
It's been a helluva ride and tons of fun.
Congrats to the Red Sox. We'll get you next year ;D
Spring Training can't come soon enough.
For me
Here's to nabbing that "big ticket" starter!
I'm the exact same way
Some helpful advice
Thanks, Red Sox fans
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 10:11 PM MDT reply actions
Thank you
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions
promise
Well, I'd like to say that I don't intend to gloat, and haven't at all in this thread. But I will mention a few things as the longest standing Sox fan on this blog.
A few things I was told when I arrived that weren't even close to true:
- The Rox are better at every position except 3B, C, and DH.
- Boston isn't equipped to play at Coors because of Manny in LF, Ortiz at 1B, Dice-K sucking rarified air.
- We will "kick in Beckett's teeth and shut Fenway the eff up."
- "Rox drop the first one, ESPN chowderheads salivate, they rip off the next four and clinch at home in Game 5."
- "You're an idiot" in response to my reasons why the Sox would beat the Rox. In most places, people that make INCORRECT predictions are considered idiots, not people that make correct ones.
- "The Boston hitters will have to adjust to not being up 2-0 or 3-1 every at bat."
- "I looked at what I saw on the field and think that Taveras is better than the Cereal/Ellsbury platoon."
- "They spray it all over the field. Have you ever seen the Rockies play??? Didn't think so."
- "I really like pointing out facts to guys like this and watching them get mad and frustrated. It's just hilarious to me." Free, your facts were impeccable.
- "To my fellow Rockies fans Sorry about the flame war up there. I tend to get my jollies by bringing facts to the table and shutting up arrogant east coast fans." - Free7694
- "you're willing to admit the bottom 3 of your division is inferior, but fail to see the possiblity of a direct correlation between playing 54 games (35 of which were wins) against those teams and having the best record in baseball?"
- June proves why we will beat the Sox.
- "Rockies in 5. The Sox will not win a game at Coors, so all we have to do is take 1 of 4 at Fenway"
"So here's my proposal for you: come back and talk all the trash you want if and when Boston wins game one."
Unfortunately, the username you responded to was banned once I took you up on that offer, right after game 1.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 3:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Not gloating?
For kemosabe, galacticpilot and the many other classy Boston fans out there, I want to add my congrats on a great season and a dominant World Series. Too bad the "real" (by that I mean post-All Star break) Rocks didn't show up, but I'm not even sure that would have been enough. Despite getting to the Show this year, I think this group of players is still a year or two away from peaking. When that happens, watch out world! As another poster has said, "Objects in your mirror are larger than they appear!"
As for you, Ickimore, there are other boards and forums where you can trade barbs to your heart's content. I suggest you find one, go there and stay there.
Papelbon is so
by duke on Oct 28, 2007 10:12 PM MDT reply actions
See ya next year
- Our worst everyday hitter
- Our .220 hitting utility infielder
- Our lefty bat off the bench that spent all season at AAA.
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 10:17 PM MDT reply actions
It could be worse
This will sting for a bit, but as I've said: It's just baseball.
Thanks Rockies!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm glad...
Congratulations to the Red Sox -- a truly great baseball team. Heads and tails better than any NL team I saw this season. They're very worthy champions.
Now that this this is behind us, I look forward to rehashing this amazing season, and shooting the breeze about all the wondrous things that happened.
And let's get ready for a magical 2008 season.
Night all.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:20 PM MDT reply actions
Rockie's
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 3:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Congratulations to the 2007 Boston Red Sox.
Congratulations as well to the 2007 Colorado Rockies, of course, for winning the pennant and doing their best to represent all of us in the Senior Circuit. You have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, and frankly, you guys battled back pretty well in every game after game 1.
This is the first time ever World Series games were played in Denver, and it won't be the last.
Here's to a good season series next year between the Dbacks and Rox, and success for both ballclubs.
Thank you, Rockies
Tip of the hat to the Red Sox, they played better baseball.
Now I don't know what to do for three and a half months. No baseball? You've got to be kidding me. Let's see what the front office decides to do to build a better team. I'm keeping an eagle eye on them...
And as for you, Rockies - this is a bit cheesy, but fitting for all the time I'll be spending waiting for the season to start -
I'll find you in the morning sun/and when the night is new/I'll be looking at the moon/but I'll be seeing you.
milb.tv should be having free archived
Live from Kenmore Square:
Most of the Sox fans that posted here were very curteous and fun to have around. Thanks for that. But it's hard, when you're in my position, to see past the screaming masses being so classless outside your window.
well,
Real baseball fans in Boston have no reason to be that way, and I'm sure they aren't.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Good time for humor.
"Feb. 10--During the Patriots' Super Bowl victory parade in Boston, New England's players are greeted with joyful "Yankees Suck" chants. The same thing occurs at a Dave Matthews concert in Worcester and a Noam Chomsky lecture at MIT."
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry for that...
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
To a degree
Regardless, we were handled by a superior team, and congrats to you, your team, and your fans on winning the greatest championship in sports.
grats
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 3:46 AM MDT up reply actions
They're chanting "YANK-EES SUCK!"
by potterhead4 on Oct 28, 2007 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions
See my post above. :-P
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions
THANKS ROX.....I HAVEN'T ENJOYED A SEASON
by 86 wins in 07 on Oct 28, 2007 10:22 PM MDT reply actions
Thank goodness,
Blink and the boys will be right back at it.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:25 PM MDT reply actions
At the beginning of the '06 season
GO ROCKIES!!
Congratulations to the Boston Red Sox
And more congratulations to the Rockies. This is a team that has been building for years, and will be a contender for the forseeable future. We have an interesting offseason ahead of us, but we will make the most of it, I guarantee it.
I'm sad that we lost the World Series. But we won the NL Pennant this year, and we have solidified our place in the world of baseball. Tonight I'm going to hang my Rockies pennant, and tomorrow will produly wear my hat and NL Champs shirt. As Rockies fans, we have NOTHING to be ashamed of. It's the end of this year, and to be sorrowful is of course an appropriate reaction. But when all is said and done, we should hold our heads high. And start counting the days to Spring Training 08.
Oh, and thanks to the D-Backs fans for sticking with us through this, you're always welcome back. If we can survive a pennant race with you and still be cool, you're always welcome back.
Here's to a fantastic 2007 season, and looking forward to an exciting 2008.
Wow
But give me a day and I'll remember how proud I am of this Rockies team and what they accomplished. It sounds weird as we just were in the World Series, but considering the season as a whole, I really think things only get better next year.
I'm glad I found the Purple Row, and I'll definitely be checking in for news and discussion of off-season moves.
And man, Hurdle is making me cry all over again right now. Sniff.
It gets better quickly
Disappointment fades. Pride endures.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, look at it this way.
That means your team REALLY sucks.
Padres fans will be complaining
I doubt they would have made it past the NLCS; and if the Rockies couldn't hit in the World Series, you can bet the Padres wouldn't have had a shot. Same with the Dbacks.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
and even worse for Cub fan....
and you're still the Cubs.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Cubs
I am a Cubs fan having lived five years just outside of Chicago, and it is amazing every year what they do. They sign players that make you scratch your head, they trade away promising minor leaguers for questionable major leaguers, and they have enough payroll to really be competitive. It is amazing.
ICKIMORE
by tshea1 on Oct 29, 2007 3:51 AM MDT up reply actions
LOL
And the "lead-o-meter" or whatever the hell that was by first base. That too.
Those were good times, weren't they?
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's just say...
Just the fact....
Rocktober might as well have been Bigfoot or Atlantis for the last decasde, but now it's real.
And it's already marked on my 2008 calendar.
by BroJB @ Purple Row on Oct 28, 2007 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions
FSN is giving great post game coverage and
by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 10:57 PM MDT reply actions
Is it just on FSRM,
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Probably just FSRM
Yup, must've been.
by DbacksSkins on Oct 28, 2007 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions
9news
by galacticpilot on Oct 28, 2007 11:05 PM MDT reply actions
n/t
Plenty of room at the window I'm sitting by, folks, if you'd like to join me.
Thanks
Not only that, but next season starts on or near my birthday.
Thank you Rockies, you are a fabulous team, and I wish I could go to each player individually and shake his hand and thank him for the joy and excitement that he has brought an entire town.
No one will ever take this year away from us. And there will be many more years ahead for us and for our children.
Go Rockies
by Rox Mom on Oct 28, 2007 11:14 PM MDT reply actions
Well said
My Mom is the next biggest Rockies fan in my family after myself, and we've already planned for her to come visit me in San Francisco next season some weekend when the Rockies are in town. We'll catch a game or two at AT&T Park, wear our NLCS t-shirts, cheer on our boys and hope the Giants fans don't beat us up. Then we'll spend a day down at Fisherman's Wharf, maybe get a sundae at Ghirardelli Square. Should be fun. I can't wait.
2:30
I have to agree with you...
by tulolover on Oct 29, 2007 1:17 AM MDT reply actions
It's not like this after the NBA Finals
The late commissioner's quote seems apropos at this point: It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. -A. Bartlett Giamatti
by HalfPrice on Oct 29, 2007 1:34 AM MDT reply actions
Rockies played hard
You should be proud of them.
That 9th inning shot to left had all Boston worried.
by Sox67 on Oct 29, 2007 5:20 AM MDT reply actions
Congrats Rocks!
Considering all that this team (fans included) have been through, I am just so happy right now. We had the terrible start; the implosion tour through Toronto, Chicago, and Houston; the constant injuries to our pitching staff; the Coolbaugh story (the bad side), and yet, through all of that, has come the sweep of the Yankees; the 21 of 22; the Gwynn Jr. triple; the chin; the Coolbaugh story (the good side); Ubaldo and Franky and Manny; a MVP; a ROY; and finally, and most importantly... a NL Pennant.
This has been a great year, let's not let the dissapointment of losing the WS to the best team in baseball overshadow that!
Go Rockies!

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