Game #34: Hirsh vs Wainwright

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 10:32 AM MDT in Rockpile

OPS+ of our catchers this season:

Yorvit Torrealba 34
Chris Iannetta 85

Which is saying that Yorvit's been worth one third of a league average batter, while Iannetta's been worth about 85 % of one. Neither is what we'd want, but Chris is a whole lot closer so far. Today he gets what's become a fairly rare opportunity to start again. Jeff Baker is also in the lineup, as is Omar Quintanilla again. Seeing a strong game from these three will give Clint Hurdle a lot more confidence in the state of the team than he currently possesses. Me too, let's hope they step up today.

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The dilemma, the dilemma...

I want the Rockies to win the series -- a lot -- but Wainwright...

Man. Why did it have to be Wainwright? Couldn't it have been Randy Keisler or something?

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 10:41 AM MDT reply actions

Also

why is Baker starting when his bat has been somnolent, Wainwright is a righty, and Hawpe had two hits last night? Days off?

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions

Never mind

I am a retard. I just saw Baker's name in the lineup and figured they'd subbed Brandon out. Oh, we're giving Holliday a day off instead. I suppose he needs it, but he's also our biggest threat.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions

Hawpe....

Not just that but Hawpe is batting in the #3 spot today

by sg8335aa on May 9, 2007 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions

Over/Under

This lineup is good for about 7 hits tonight. Any takers?

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 11:12 AM MDT reply actions

There's one

Surprisingly, from Mr. Ditto.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions

omg

Maybe pigs can fly!

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:13 AM MDT reply actions

Checking on Finley?

Seriously? That was classic. Now I hope Finley swipes 2nd.

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:17 AM MDT reply actions

watching Todd Helton

on a daily basis has really been a joy. The man is such a good hitter.

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:19 AM MDT reply actions

Two on, two out

Garrett . . .

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:19 AM MDT reply actions

Hirsh works out of the jam

but he can work out of dilemmas all afternoon and still not see the Rockies score.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:32 AM MDT reply actions

looks like

a lovely day for a game in st. louis. beautiful out.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:32 AM MDT reply actions

Baker gets a single

It looks good in the box score, at least.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 11:33 AM MDT reply actions

Nice break

with the ground rule double.

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:35 AM MDT reply actions

For them

I mean.

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions

horrible break

obviously. cmon hirsh...

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:35 AM MDT reply actions

Great play by Baker

I hate it when the runner in that situation runs into an out.

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 11:36 AM MDT reply actions

nice job finley

laaaaaaaaaaaaaame. 4 hits in 2 innings, nothing to show for it.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:38 AM MDT reply actions

Mr. Ditto

Does his thing. Oy vey, I can't wait until we get Taveras back.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:39 AM MDT reply actions

Good, ol' Steve Finley

We can always count on you for that.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:39 AM MDT reply actions

Old being the operative word.

I'm going to the game at Yankee Stadium tonight. Originally I was supposed to go yesterday... and of course Pettitte pitched yesterday. Damn!

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions

Watching Mussina

pitch isn't a bad alternative.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions

an inside source from st. louis

tells me eckstein was held out of today's game because its really sunny out and his pasty complexion burns easily. they may call for his hustle, grit, ability to "play the game the right way", and lunchpail off the bench later but for now hes safely tucked away in the shade.
(did you guys know hes only 5'7"? i had never heard that before joe buck mentioned it the other night.)

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:44 AM MDT reply actions

On the bright side

Holliday on the bench means we have a hell of a pinch-hitter in the late innings... and then Hurdle will use Mabry anyway. ;)

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:45 AM MDT reply actions

Wainwright

is a really, really good hitter for a pitcher. Trust me, stuff like that isn't a fluke. Okay, well, now, Hirsh, since I have no attachment to the other Adam (Kennnedy), you can feel free to get him out.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:47 AM MDT reply actions

hirsh

was killing guys with his changeup as a strikeout pitch earlier in the year. whatever happened to that? has he shyed away from it because teams are expecting it now or something? the other night in cincy he barely used it with 2 strikes.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:48 AM MDT reply actions

Just used it

On 3-1

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions

and 3-2

That looked like a strike from the TV angle, despite the Cards' announcers words otherwise.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions

And got a strike.

Then he walked Duncan and now they're loaded for Pujols. Come on, Hirsh, you had two outs and nobody on! I hate those kinds of rallies (for the other team, obviously).

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions

goddamn it hirsh

get your act together

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:49 AM MDT reply actions

Jeesh

Come on now, Hirsh.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:49 AM MDT reply actions

Hirsh, don't give Pujols

a great opportunity.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:52 AM MDT reply actions

too bad Iannetta can't move back there

blocking that breaking pitch in the dirt.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 11:54 AM MDT reply actions

Jesus

Was that a strike to anybody else?

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 11:54 AM MDT reply actions

thats strike 3

but ok ump

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:55 AM MDT reply actions

Another nice pitch

This umpiring crew hates the Rockies.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 11:55 AM MDT reply actions

I am rapidly

coming to that conclusion... then again, if Hirsh could just get the third out against the bottom of the order with nobody on, we wouldn't be having this problem.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions

ball 3

was an absolute travesty of a call. im furious.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:58 AM MDT reply actions

It's Davidson behind the plate.

Can somebody revoke his license or something?

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions

Just get Edmonds out

Get. Him. Out.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 11:58 AM MDT reply actions

whats hirsh at now

80 pitches? 120? he got rattled, no doubt about it. this is a game he needs to grow up fast in.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 11:59 AM MDT reply actions

I'm just glad to see that inning is over

That was terrifying

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:03 PM MDT reply actions

C'mon now

We're only down by two, it could be a lot worse, so BATS, kindly help out. Good start, Tulo.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:04 PM MDT reply actions

hahah

a headline on the mlb.com news ticker at the bottom of my mlb.tv box: "no lack of grit in mienkiewicz's game". i hope the article also has some information about how theres a complete lack of ability to hit the ball in his game, as well. (same goes for darin erstad and eckstein)

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:07 PM MDT reply actions

Todd Helton, sir

I love you, sir. Even your beard, sir. Thank you very much, sir.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:08 PM MDT reply actions

one of my friends

says helton looks like someone who would get caught on "to catch a predator" with the beard. and i gotta say... much as i love todd, my friend may be right.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions

I agree

I actually hate the beard, but as long as it gives Todd his unearthly ability to get on base and hit, I am a fan.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions

All right, Helton!

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 12:08 PM MDT reply actions

I'm becoming a Todd Helton fan again!

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:09 PM MDT reply actions

Not so much for Hawpe and Atkins

K's galore

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:10 PM MDT reply actions

Holliday

Any reason why hes not in the lineup?

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by Lightning on May 9, 2007 12:10 PM MDT reply actions

Yeah

I'm just getting home and as much as he owns the Cardinals, why is he sitting?

As for it being a beautiful day at Busch Stadium -- well, it's 89 degrees and terribly humid here, and St. Louis is probably little different. Maybe slightly cooler, but it's probably about the same thing.

The Coors Effect... thinking about changing the name to The Humidor Effect.

by Rox Fan in TN on May 9, 2007 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions

I wish Hurdle would

choose his off-days for players better. Sitting Helton twice against the Dodgers and now Holliday against a team (and stadium) that he owns.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions

because

jeff baker is awesome.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions

I stopped watching games after week 1

Why isn't Baker our everyday centerfielder at this point? I also notice that Tavares isn't playing, I can only assume that he has been waived.

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions

I don't know if you're being

sarcastic or not, but if you aren't, then Taveras heated up and then did something funny to a muscle in Cincinnati, so he's sitting.

If you are being sarcastic, than you know that. ;)

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions

Clearly

not serious. Baker has been bad/very bad lately and anyone who EVER suggested he could play centerfield is living in a fantasy world.

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions

Ah, okay

My online sarc detector is usually pretty good, and I figured you knew all that, but just in case. ;)

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions

Hirsh

We went through this last inning. Kindly do not repeat last inning, as it was not fun.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:15 PM MDT reply actions

Uh.... what?

We are intentionally walking the feared hitter Aaron Miles to get to Wainwright, who IS a good hitter?

Pardon?

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:20 PM MDT reply actions

this is dumb in my opinion

youre not going to pitch to aaron miles.... to bring up a pitcher who can swing with 2 guys on instead of 1. i disagree, unless they really think miles owns hirsh or something.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:20 PM MDT reply actions

Jeez....

Hirsh is having trouble throwing strikes, isn't getting a lick of help from the umps, and we're putting on more baserunners....? And the count's 3-1 on Wainwright?

I don't get it.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:22 PM MDT reply actions

And now he walks Wainwright.

Who thought this was a good idea, exactly...?

Hirsh is at 86 pitches through 2.2. Good thing we let our bullpen have the night off yesterday...

Oh, wait.

Grr.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions

No more IBBs for at least a week, Hurdle.

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 12:24 PM MDT reply actions

heres the st. louis scount report on hirsh

for today anyways:
dont swing until you have a strike.
when you have 2 strikes, just start fouling everything off, eventually he will walk you.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:24 PM MDT reply actions

Hirsh is really laboring

and close to 100 pitches. Going to be a long day for the pen.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:26 PM MDT reply actions

im usually the optimist

but i dont know if ive ever felt worse about a 2-1 game in the top of the 4th. going to lunch, maybe things will be better when i get back.

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by LarryB303 on May 9, 2007 12:26 PM MDT reply actions

so watching game day

stupid work....I miss TV..even George Frazier

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:27 PM MDT reply actions

What channel is the game on?

by RandyMann on May 9, 2007 12:28 PM MDT reply actions

We've already one a game this series

so this game doesn't matter

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:28 PM MDT reply actions

Whooo Single

MLB gameday little computer graphics no the same as TV

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:30 PM MDT reply actions

Why is Hirsh batting?

He's struggling..has about 100 pitches already...and he's batting?

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:31 PM MDT reply actions

ok 89 pitches

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions

The mind of Hurdle

is a curious place. I guess he thinks Hirsh can grit out one more.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions

Even

if he makes a pitching change, he wants to save his bench.

Free Jason Bates!!

by rox in october on May 9, 2007 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions

Mr. Ditto.

Well, at least he's out of the way for next inning.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:36 PM MDT reply actions

Prediction:

Tulo hits a homerun to lead off the fifth.

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:37 PM MDT reply actions

It won't matter that much because I think

the cards are about to get through

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions

We have two outs.

Now the trouble starts.

In all seriousness, though, why couldn't you do this before you had 100 pitches, Jason?

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:41 PM MDT reply actions

Wow

Hurdle guessed right..Hirsh had one more good inning in him! And fast enough, Hirsh could go even another

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 12:42 PM MDT reply actions

Honestly I thought ourship was about to sink.

My bold predictoins are looking pretty crappy

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:44 PM MDT reply actions

I shall take a two-base error.

Let's go, guys. Really.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:44 PM MDT reply actions

BRANDON!

Attaboy!

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:46 PM MDT reply actions

Brandon!! Woohoo! tied game

Now if our bullpen only keeps them scoreless for four plus innings... oh... oops, we better score a few more before getting excited.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 12:47 PM MDT reply actions

We lost the lead runner

but Atkins singles. Two on, one out... and Baker up. Do you PH Holliday here? I do.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:51 PM MDT reply actions

Makes too much sense

Hurdle is probably too busy making "golf plans".

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions

Baker out

Runners on second and third. Come on Ian, justify my mad love for you.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:53 PM MDT reply actions

Er...

uh... you could get hit.... for Q?

Somehow, I liked Iannetta better.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions

how the heck

do you have a man on third with no outs and get him thrown out at the plate?

by 4thturn on May 9, 2007 12:56 PM MDT reply actions

Hurdle going for one more out of Hirsh

I could make a comment about last night, but I won't. I think I need to attempt to move on.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 12:56 PM MDT reply actions

Aargh...

But this game has convinced me that Q's a better option than Jamey at second for now. He's just been hitting so solidly and is as a good a defender.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 12:57 PM MDT reply actions

I wish gameday would play the

price is right you-just-lost music when the inning ends like that

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 12:57 PM MDT reply actions

Ahahahahaahahahahahaahaha

That would be fantastic.

by A.J. Haefele on May 9, 2007 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions

And Hirsh walks yet another.

Hoooo boy.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:00 PM MDT reply actions

So far today 20 baserunners and only 4 runs

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 1:01 PM MDT reply actions

combined

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions

Aside from the Giants game's stats

Arias has pitched like the organizational soldier most everyone had pegged him as. A high contact soft tosser is rarely the right choice to enter a game with runner(s) on...

by David OhNo on May 9, 2007 1:06 PM MDT reply actions

Arias

Has been just that. I'm guessing he actually gets shipped back down when we get some arms healthy

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions

I'm hoping that he's pitching for the Springs

soon

by Blake20th on May 9, 2007 1:09 PM MDT reply actions

infield fly vs. intentional drop

Somebody in yesterday's game thread wondered about the rule on Tulo's intentional drop of Schumaker's soft liner yesterday, in an attempt to get a DP. Although George Frazier and today's Post said Schumaker was out on the infield fly rule, that was not the case. It was an intentional drop. Here are some of the differences:

Intentional drop:
Runner at first, less than two out.
Can be a line drive or a fly.
Batter is out when ball is intentionally dropped.
Ball is dead, runners return to their original bases.

Infield fly:
Runners at first AND SECOND, less than two out.
Must be a fly, not a line drive.
Batter is out when ump determines ball can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort.
Ball is alive, runners can advance at own risk.

Troy Renck told me he knew the difference, that the Post editors had added "infield fly" but that he didn't write it, and that he was pissed about it.

by Perry on May 9, 2007 1:12 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt...

For some reason, I'm not likin' this.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:14 PM MDT reply actions

only 2 down

Where's B. Kim or L. Hawkins when we needed them?

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by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:16 PM MDT reply actions

Mabry and Finley back to back

is just unfair. I cannot get over that.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:20 PM MDT reply actions

Can't believe I'm saying this

but HURRY BACK WILLY T!

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:21 PM MDT reply actions

any body know

why Mabry is on the team, and spillbourgs is in AAA?

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:24 PM MDT reply actions

It is a question

we have all long been asking ourselves, my friend.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions

to torment me,

Other than that, I haven't figured it out.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions

Cards fans were salivating to get to the pen

Thus far, we have given them no reason not to do so.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:31 PM MDT reply actions

Way to go ZACH

you made me miss LaTroy Hawkins!

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by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:32 PM MDT reply actions

Hurdle ought to conceed

this game and just save the bullpen. Send a guy like Bautista out to throw a few innings and call it a day.

Otherwise, we may be compounding our problems by taking a tired pen into the San Francisco series.

by David OhNo on May 9, 2007 1:34 PM MDT reply actions

We sure play the Giants

an awful damn lot.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions

Maybe MLB

will let us be "Run Ruled" and call the game

We may stink, but we won't be swept!

by Redhawk on May 9, 2007 1:37 PM MDT reply actions

Well, um

Wainwright will get the win, it looks like...

I would be an awful lot happier about that if we had just won yesterday.

<sigh>

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:37 PM MDT reply actions

A bit late for DPs in this game

by Russ Oates on May 9, 2007 1:39 PM MDT reply actions

The Bright Side:

Using Tom Martin here would be an okay option. I say let him toss a hundred after Arias gets done.

by Rox Girl on May 9, 2007 1:41 PM MDT reply actions

I think Hurdle just took the advice

of whoever said to waste some arms in this game. Martin's in, and can't complain, we're six runs behind already.

Well folks, I am out. Going to Yankee Stadium to watch Yanks/Rangers, and by the looks of things, I'm not missing much from this game. Not a Yanks fan at all, but I am looking forward to seeing the stadium and enjoying a ballgame. I'll even be wearing my autographed Rockies hat.

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by Silverblood on May 9, 2007 1:42 PM MDT reply actions