Game #123: Jeff Francis vs. Brad Penny

Let's solve Penny

Penny isn't THAT good.

Always sort of sad to see him make our hitters look stupid.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 1:41 PM MDT reply actions

Strarting Line-ups

Colorado Rockies:

K. Matsui 2b
C. Sullivan cf
M. Holliday lf
T. Helton 1b
G. Atkins 3b
B. Hawpe rf
T. Tulowitzki ss
Y. Torrealba c
J. Francis p

LA Dodgers:

R. Furcal ss
J. Pierre cf
M. Kemp rf
S. Hillenbrand 3b
A. Ethier lf
R. Martin c
J. Loney 1b
R. Martinez 2b
B. Penny p

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 1:42 PM MDT reply actions

I expected to see

more bench guys starting to give the regulars a rest. No Spillbourghs? I realize Sullivan did well last night. No Stewart?

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions

This is one of those games

when Helton should get a day off, with Atkins moving across the diamond and Stewart manning third base.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 19, 2007 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions

That's what I thought we would see

and the Fox TV guys said the same thing last night (this morning)

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions

Maybe

we'll see that tomorrow at home against a weak non division team like the Pirates

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions

Shea Hillenbrand batting cleanup?

We need to win this game.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions

Stewart/Carroll

I wouldn't be surprised to see them in a close game in the 8th or 9th for Atkins after last night

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by rockiesfan4ever on Aug 19, 2007 2:02 PM MDT reply actions

I'd enjoy this game more

if Brett Tomko was still pitching.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:06 PM MDT reply actions

I'm still tired from

just WATCHING last nights game, I can't imagine playing.

'course I'm not in the same shape as a professional afweet

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:09 PM MDT reply actions

Major league roster

Nice to see the major league roster today.

I can't quite figure out why Hurdle likes to throw out a bunch of subs when the rookies are on the mound.

That game that U-ball had against the Cubs made me sick (I was there and when I saw the starting line-up I about choked).

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 2:09 PM MDT reply actions

Nice start

Kaz walks, and makes Penny work a little bit.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 2:14 PM MDT reply actions

Hah, Russell Martin sounds like Tulo

Catching 14 innings? No problem, he wants to be right back out there.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:16 PM MDT reply actions

Penny

is a little wild...and we are fouling some off...way to work the pitcher in the first inning guys, especially one going on short rest!

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:16 PM MDT reply actions

Why is Sully starting?

I realize he had a good game last night, but give me Spilly any day of the week (who had the leadoff 14th inning double and scored the winning run).

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:20 PM MDT reply actions

And Sullivan

just played 14 innings. I expected Spilly either in CF or giving one of the corner OF a day off.

And why are we not playing Stewart?

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions

couldn't tell you. I'd expect Atkins to spell Helton at first (no longer as young as he used to be, after all) and let Ian play third. I would have liked very much to see that happen; I want to see more of what Stew can do. But, well, Clint Hurdle.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions

Todd, I'm disappointed in you

You usually work the count most and you worked it the least.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:21 PM MDT reply actions

Oh jeez

Come on, Francis. If he has hit a wall, we're screwed.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:25 PM MDT reply actions

Well

The Dodgers get hits and a run....we hope to make the pitcher tired.

I'd rather have runs, they are useful when it comes to winning games

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:37 PM MDT reply actions

Please Jeff

don't fall apart at the end of the season. We don't have another spare starter

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by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 2:40 PM MDT reply actions

On the heels of having a breakdown last night

(not Rockies-related) I'm not sure that I can take too much of the actual Rockies-related crap. This game had better improve.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 2:42 PM MDT reply actions

Jeeez

Cory is going to wear Kaz out. Penny too, which is a good thing.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:02 PM MDT reply actions

The payoff better be worth it, Cory.

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by Russ Oates on Aug 19, 2007 3:03 PM MDT reply actions

It's Sully

Of course it wasn't. To think, when the AB started I was hoping he could work Penny to 50 pitches.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions

The AB of the year

Fly out be damned, that was just funny.

Poor Kaz.

Up in the Rockies

by rockiesfan06 on Aug 19, 2007 3:04 PM MDT reply actions

i know that whole moving kaz over thing...

...didn't work out, but that was some funny stuff, running on 3-2 for fifteen pitches.

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:04 PM MDT reply actions

I don't think that I have ever seen

a 17-pitch AB. Way to go Cory, despite the end result

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:05 PM MDT reply actions

Shorten up the outing

Sully just knocked an inning off of Penny's start.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 3:05 PM MDT reply actions

Penny

at 63 pitches now.

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions

I really don't like

Bad Jeff Francis. I wish he'd go away.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:08 PM MDT reply actions

Dammit Jeff

Get it together. We need a DP from Hillenbrand

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:09 PM MDT reply actions

Ask

and ye shall receive. (Now how about a damned hit for us?!)

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions

Not exactly what I had in mind

but I'll take it

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions

I'll just say this right now.

I hate Brad Penny.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 3:09 PM MDT reply actions

I share your sentiments, sir.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions

Nice recovery from Franchise

Please offense, let's get a run this inning

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:14 PM MDT reply actions

Odd inning

I know about 'hind-sight' and all of that but the Dodgers just ran themselves out of an inning in short order.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 3:14 PM MDT reply actions

Wow

A positively Rockies-like display of offensive futility from the Dodgers.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:16 PM MDT reply actions

In other news...

Phillies are losing, a whale's vagina is ahead. Thank you Anchorman for that reference, it has enriched my life.

So yeah, get some friggin runs already.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 3:16 PM MDT reply actions

At this rate

Penny won't last too long. 72 pitches with no one out in the 4th

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:20 PM MDT reply actions

this is one of those times...

...when it would be nice to see helton put one out of the park. we just need some easy runs...

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:20 PM MDT reply actions

but

i will take the double

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions

At last a hit thank jeebus

How about scoring 'em, Atkins?

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:21 PM MDT reply actions

Now we're in business

C'mon Garrett!

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:21 PM MDT reply actions

good eye garrett

now let's not re-enact last night's 11th inning...

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:24 PM MDT reply actions

Bases loaded, none out

This is typically our death knell. Let's hope Brandon can introduce a little deja vu from last night.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:24 PM MDT reply actions

The 14th

not the 11th.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions

Bases loaded

Hawpe up, no one out, and Penny's at 83 pitches

Time for the 4-bagger

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:24 PM MDT reply actions

It's one

Need more, Tulo.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:27 PM MDT reply actions

what in the hell

is helton doing

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 3:27 PM MDT reply actions

Wondering why he didn't advance...

It's not like Pierre could throw him out.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions

There's one

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:27 PM MDT reply actions

Um

There is NO excuse for a first-pitch out in this game.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:29 PM MDT reply actions

Well, never mind

it was a hit, and Helton got greedy. Grr.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions

Ummm

Not exactly sure what just happened there

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:29 PM MDT reply actions

Yorvit

Way to start 3-0, hack at ball four, and strike out.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:31 PM MDT reply actions

On the plus side

Penny's at 96 pitches through 4

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:32 PM MDT reply actions

Hopefully a tired Dodgers pen

is good for us. If Francis can hold them.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions

He's not done...

I expect they'll run him out close to 120 after last nights game. That and if they lose this game, they're in a world of hurt.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions

Doh!

Sort of takes the value out of them blowing an inning on the basepaths if we turn around and do the same thing.

That said, spectacular plays on defense by Pierre and Furcal.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 3:32 PM MDT reply actions

The thought of a 1-2-3 inning

does not appeal to Jeff today

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:37 PM MDT reply actions

Well, a 1-2-3-4 inning

Whatever. If they're going to leave Penny in another inning, we need to capitalize. He's close to 100 pitches already.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:42 PM MDT reply actions

Stupid Cory...

No first pitch swinging at this point!

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 3:49 PM MDT reply actions

No 17-pitch AB there, Sully?

Had to get it done in one?

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:49 PM MDT reply actions

A 1-2-3 inning?

Paint me purple and slap my ass. Nice work, Jeff. Now... how about some more runs...?

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:56 PM MDT reply actions

Wow ... a 1-2-3 inning

Franchise is actually pitching himself a decent game: 66 pitches (46 strikes, 20 balls) through 5 innings, with no walks and 7 K's

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:57 PM MDT reply actions

He is

Penny out, Beimel in, we have taken the felon to task before. Let's repeat.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions

Garrett

You can hit more effectively if you take the freaking bat off your shoulder. Just FYI.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:02 PM MDT reply actions

Same goes for you, Mr Hawpe

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions

I guess Francis decided to fix

the "no walks" part of his stat line.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:14 PM MDT reply actions

Contagious errors

Even the cameraman can't help but flub things up. :(

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:17 PM MDT reply actions

WTF?

Spilly with two outs and no one on?

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:21 PM MDT reply actions

Probably

wanted to take advantage of getting him in there against the Dodgers lone lefty in the bullpen.

Up in the Rockies

by rockiesfan06 on Aug 19, 2007 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions

Only righties left

So you don't think that taking Hawpe out would make much sense.

Spilly just pinch hit and done then?

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:23 PM MDT reply actions

maybe...

Spilly to center, Sully out...2 for 1 switch.

Not that I agree with taking the starter out after 85 pitches when the entire bullpen was used the night before.

by DenverBears on Aug 19, 2007 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions

or...

I could be wrong. Spilly spent.

Now it really doesn't make sense.

What did Spilly do to Hurdle? He was pretty much starting nearly every day for a while and now, out of nowhere, Hurdle thinks he needs to get Sullivan more ABs or something.

by DenverBears on Aug 19, 2007 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions

Sully is Hurdle's pet

He could only repress his urges for so long.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions

RAMON ORTIZ

in a close game
in a key game
against a divisional rival
a game we really would like to win
need to win

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:26 PM MDT reply actions

only....

one not to pitch last night, I think.

by DenverBears on Aug 19, 2007 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions

Yep

and probably with good reason.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions

Olmedo

And the earth rumbles as he runs...

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:28 PM MDT reply actions

Out on the force...

They should really get him a scooter or something to get around the bases.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions

It's time

for a run, boys.

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:36 PM MDT reply actions

Scott Proctor

is not a world-beater.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions

but neither was Joe Beimel

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions

I think we are

still asleep. It's going to suck to lose this one, barring any miraculous and highly unlikely comeback.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions

Please Matt

One swing and you can tie this game

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:39 PM MDT reply actions

Or you can put a man on for Todd

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions

ball 1...

to Helton looked like an interesting call according to Gameday.

by DenverBears on Aug 19, 2007 4:41 PM MDT reply actions

it's sad

year after year, when push comes to shove... we just cannot score runs in LA. no matter what.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 4:43 PM MDT reply actions

get some

best jinx ever.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions

YES

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 4:43 PM MDT reply actions

Helton

Wow...

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by Behrens on Aug 19, 2007 4:43 PM MDT reply actions

TODD!!!

Yes!

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 4:43 PM MDT reply actions

Never saw it coming...

THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM MDT reply actions

TODDDD

Everything you ever did = forgiven.

Thanks baby.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM MDT reply actions

TODD!!!

Thank goodness for veteranness

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM MDT reply actions

Please please please

Do not wake up Hawkins to pitch the 8th

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:45 PM MDT reply actions

Uncomfortable about the fact

we still have to get two innings out of a tired bullpen with a razor-thin lead.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions

my guess

Ortiz pitches another inning, and Corpas comes in for the save

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions

no kidding....

this would be a good time to take advantage of the two closers...Fuentes, then Corpas

by DenverBears on Aug 19, 2007 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions

Silverblood was right

Proctor is not a world-beater; good call

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:46 PM MDT reply actions

Gameday makes it look like

Atkins almost went back-to-back with Helton. Still nervous about the whole two-innings-of-tired-pen.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:47 PM MDT reply actions

he almost did

caught while running into the wall. missed a bomb by 5 feet.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions

Much needed

It is sort of sad though when we are shocked to see our clean-up hitter hit a home-run.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:47 PM MDT reply actions

Julio....?

And I see they put in Carroll for Atkins. Well, hopefully that will NOT happen again.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:48 PM MDT reply actions

Wow

Hurdle actually replaced Atkins on defense; freakin awesome

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM MDT reply actions

I wish

he'd put in Stewart. Then again, those 25+ errors at AAA make it uncertain that he's a defensive upgrade just yet. Give it another six months or so.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions

Adkins made the last out....

Stewart still available to pinch hit. Good move, I think.

by jlikesrockies on Aug 19, 2007 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions

3rd

Defensive replacement at third.

Only took 3/4 of the season.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM MDT reply actions

julio has abandoned the slider

after last night. probably a good idea.

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by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 4:52 PM MDT reply actions

I know Julio is usually decent

but I'm nervous about using him in the eighth a night right after he blew it (albeit with a little unneeded "help.") Smacks of repeating mistakes.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:52 PM MDT reply actions

Walk

ugh.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:53 PM MDT reply actions

if he walks him

go to corpas.

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by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 4:54 PM MDT reply actions

Ugh

Julio turning back into Marlin Julio.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:55 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt coming in

Too bad Fuentes is unavailable.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT reply actions

I missed last night

He go more then an inning?

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions

Only two outs

Hurdle's thing about not pitching him on back-to-back days yet, I suppose.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions

FUENTES...

Someone get Fuentes for the love of God.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT reply actions

It's bad

when we want Fuentes back in a tight spot.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions

Good Affeldt

Just hope for good (rather than erratic) Affeldt here.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT reply actions

Yeah

So not what I need.... Affeldt.... I feel my lifespan shortening.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM MDT reply actions

Sully

Great play by Sully to even get to that ball.

If he didn't get that close and trap it then Ethier scores (or atleast goes to third and scores on pretty much anything).

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 4:57 PM MDT reply actions

Lord, please...

...can we get a DP here?

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 4:57 PM MDT reply actions

I don't have much more confidence in

Affedlt. I wish that Hurdle believed in the five-out save from Corpas

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:57 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt's SD fiasco

is raw in my mind.

Make it go away.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:57 PM MDT reply actions

Kent.

Yeah.

This won't hurt at all.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions

Oh God..

It's Kent.

Doomed I believe...

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 4:58 PM MDT reply actions

DP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Please Affeldt. Don't pull a Fuentes on us and melt down in consecutive games...

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM MDT reply actions

3-1 is gonna get crushed.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM MDT reply actions

Or not.

Not even a strike. Good Lord.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions

Walk

Bases loaded, only one out.

This doesn't look good.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM MDT reply actions

Bloody hell

Get me Hawkins. I want a heavy sinker and a 30% chance of success here over Affeldt right now.

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM MDT reply actions

Blah

The ugly-inning meter has been turned up to 11

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM MDT reply actions

You can't always pitch behind in the count...

will someone please tell the relievers that is a tried-and-true baeball axiom. Get ahead for a change, dammit...

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM MDT reply actions

Loaded with one out

It's never easy, is it? Ever?

I hate Affeldt and Julio right now. Lest you say this is irrational, I assure you it is not. I am not okay at the moment for a number of reasons.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt is going to walk in the tying run

Shoot me.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:03 PM MDT reply actions

Or not

So glad we could help RAMON F'N MARTINEZ get 2 more RBI.

I hate our bullpen.

A lot.

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by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions

Where the hell is Corpas???

by alexcolfax on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Damn you Affeldt

Bum!

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Unbelievable

I think I'm going to be sick. This one's over - we can't touch Saito.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Crap

In play, run(s)

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

HE'S HITTING .173

You POS

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by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Craptacular!

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by Russ Oates on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Well, that's just great...

Can Hurdle just one time pick the right reliever (besides Corpas) to bring in???

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM MDT reply actions

Memo to O'Dowd

find new bullpen.

Keep Corpas, keep Buchholz, but ship the rest out!

by David OhNo on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM MDT reply actions

He needs to go on the DL

Shitty pitching right now.

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM MDT reply actions

Excuse the language...

I'm just pissed. Delete it if necessary.

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions

Ramon Martinez

Affeldt isn't worth a bag of balls any more.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM MDT reply actions

it seems like the DP's we do get

are much too late

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 5:06 PM MDT reply actions

As I said

Bring Julio in in the eighth after he gave up two runs. Hurdle does it again. This time, he doesn't even have defensive miscues to fall back on. And Julio blows it again, this time with help from the Royals version of Affeldt. And I am spitting, spitting mad.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:06 PM MDT reply actions

OK, so we've been bad against Saito

Which means our luck will change today, right?

Hawpe, Tulo, Torrealba in the 9th.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM MDT reply actions

Another fine managing job by Clint Hurdle

What else is new? I bet he was downright shocked when Little pinch hit Kent for Loney.

by CNM on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM MDT reply actions

I'm tired of this horseshit

Unless he's hurting and is incapable of going back-to-back days, there was no reason to not go to Fuentes in the eighth after Julio faltered.

And I don't know what the hell's gotten into Affeldt, but he's trying to sink our season by himself on this road trip.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt is doing a Fuentes homage.

Fuentes single-handedly wrecked the Trip That Did Not Happen. Now, Affeldt is doing the same at a much more critical juncture.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions

Affeldt is going through

a "correction" or more specifically, "regression to the mean." His obscenely low BABIP has now reversed trend, and the K rate, walk ratio, and K/BB ratio were never that impressive.

by David OhNo on Aug 19, 2007 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions

And we can't even get a DP

from RAMON MARTINEZ who is hitting .173. ONE FREAKING SEVENTY THREE.

I am pretty much beyond words at this point.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM MDT reply actions

Yet another..

snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory. This franchise lives for it.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM MDT reply actions

Like last night, you mean?

You sure do have a knack for checking in only when these kinds of things happen.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions

You seem to enjoy it

seeing as you only show up when they do.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions

wait

i dont remember hearing from you after last night's game. what happened?

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions

Saito's stats

Are obscenely impressive.

by alexcolfax on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM MDT reply actions

Long ball

We have three guys who can atleast hit it out.

One lucky swing can tie it up.

by MADness on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM MDT reply actions

If we called up Weathers from Low A

even with his inconsistency with command in the zone (not balls and strikes but hitting spots) how worse off would we be? Any?

Also, why not Morillo? If we can justify Julio as an eighth inning guy, how can we deny Morillo a chance? He may not be special but he's a cheaper version that can walk and K batters like the rest of 'em.

by David OhNo on Aug 19, 2007 5:09 PM MDT reply actions

You HAVE to win this exact type of game

if you want to be considered a legitimate contender; maybe Affeldt's prior seasons with terrible KC teams haven't prepared him fior an honest-to-goodness playoff race. Or maybe he was never any good in the clutch.

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:09 PM MDT reply actions

My prediction

Tulo or Torrealba reaches base, and Stewart comes through with a run-scoring hit to tie the game

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:11 PM MDT reply actions

Oops

Carroll would be hitting ninth, not the pitcher's spot

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions

At least make contact

Our hopes now rest on the shoulders of Yorvit Torrealba.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 5:11 PM MDT reply actions

Wouldn't be stunned if Affeldt was DFA

We have to have better options than him.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:11 PM MDT reply actions

His tightrope walking

finally fell on its face. I haven't really trusted him all season long, and it was finally borne out in the field. At the most inopportune time.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions

We already do

We just left them in the bullpen. Not like it's an important game or anything...

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions

Please keep the inning alive Yorvit

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:12 PM MDT reply actions

Affeldt

He was pitching over his head the entire season. He was still walking too many batters and now it's caught up with him.

by CNM on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM MDT reply actions

If I'm Saito

I'm digging the foot outside strike calls. Just awesome.

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM MDT reply actions

No chance

That Saito is just too good.

We'll be looking back at this trip as a missed opportunity... but with a favorable homestand coming up, I'm not pouring sand on the grave just yet.

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by Franchise26 on Aug 19, 2007 5:14 PM MDT reply actions

not that i'm complaining

why did saito wait until he was 38 to come to america?

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions

Better question

Why didn't we find him first?

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions

And there it goes.

I'd laugh, but I can't.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:14 PM MDT reply actions

Blah

by WanderingRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:14 PM MDT reply actions

devastating

we'll get well against the pirates though. it'll be ok.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 19, 2007 5:14 PM MDT reply actions

i don't like our chances

of sweeping the pirates twice this year...

by roxrok on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM MDT reply actions

ARGH

At least we're only 3 out still. Lost a golden opportunity because of our eighth inning meltdown but it can be made up.

We better absolutely destroy the freaking dregs of this league this go around.

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM MDT reply actions

Same tune different day

it has been going on for 16 years. Choke on road.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM MDT reply actions

So why exactly

do you still follow them?

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions

Thanks to Hurdle, Affeldt and Julio

No sense to end a key road trip with a come-from-behind, inspiring win is there? Thanks once again to these guys it's gonna be a long, long flight back tonight. Could we once just try Corpas if the lead and the game are on the line in the 8th?

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:16 PM MDT reply actions

Seven games against

the Pirates and the Nats, an important stretch of games coming up.

"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence

by Russ Oates on Aug 19, 2007 5:16 PM MDT reply actions

7 games against bad teams

coming up. We absolutely need to dominate the Buccos and Nats. No excuses.

by avsfan4ever33 on Aug 19, 2007 5:16 PM MDT reply actions

At the end of the day

we're still only three back. So despite a heartbreaking road trip, we can really make headway over the next seven games.

That said, the bullpen does need a reshuffling, and more chances need to be taken. I'd consider moving Buchholz to 7th-8th inning duty and dropping Affeldt to long man/LOOGY duties. The use of Fuentes late is fine, but again he's not the same pitcher we remember, and should only pitch in lefty heavy spots. Not strictly a lefty specialist, but in an Okajima lefty-heavy type role. I'd like to see what Morillo can do after a solid AA season, but it looks like we'll have to wait for September to see if he can be a fixture in the bullpen.

by David OhNo on Aug 19, 2007 5:19 PM MDT reply actions

Corpas didn't pitch Thursday or Friday...

And threw only 10 pitches for the save last night. What's wrong with a 5-out save in such a crucial situation???

by alexcolfax on Aug 19, 2007 5:21 PM MDT reply actions

The multiple inning save

is in the second edition of "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Bullpen Management." I'm not sure Hurdle has updated his copy yet.

On a slightly related note, does anyone else find it funny that "Baseball for Dummies" was written by Joe Morgan?

by David OhNo on Aug 19, 2007 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions

He has the best credentials to write a book like

that, since he is a dummy.

by Blake20th on Aug 20, 2007 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions

I don't know if the proper term

is 'Hurdlism' since other managers act like this, but being a closer means he can only get three outs in this '-ism'.

"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence

by Russ Oates on Aug 19, 2007 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions

Yet again

I am left baffled by Hurdle's bullpen management. And by the incompetence of said bullpen.

We're at home against the Pirates and Nats. It's now or never time.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:23 PM MDT reply actions

I agree 100% re: bullpen...

but "now or never" really comes against divisional foes you're in contention with for the wild card. And don't overlook the Nats; as they proved in DC last month against the Rox, they can be a very pesky and feisty foe.

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:26 PM MDT up reply actions

I'm not overlooking them

Trust me. I'm worried that we can't correct the spin, but we're given a golden opportunity to do so at home after a wrenching road trip. The schedule couldn't get more opportune, so if we can't take advantage of it, we're sunk. In that case, it is now or never.

Get Demented. I already am, and in severe emotional pain to boot.

by Silverblood on Aug 19, 2007 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions

Very true

Think Washington holds the title of "Bad team that no one wants anything to do with." Scrappy bunch of castoffs and ne'er-do-wells...

President of the Kazuo Matsui Fan Club

by MattTheRock on Aug 19, 2007 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions

4 losses

on road trip, Francis lost one, Fogg lost one and Hurdle lost 2.

by DieHardRoxFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:35 PM MDT reply actions

Matt Morris and Tony Armas

The next two nights should be just what the doctor ordered. Then it's two pretty good young lefties, Gorzelanny and Maholm.

Let's hope Rox can make this schedule pay off this week.

by alexcolfax on Aug 19, 2007 5:37 PM MDT reply actions

ARGGGGG

Let's go 7-0 the next 2 series'.

Yet again D-Backs lose we lose
D-Backs win we win

WTF?!?!?!

Die-hard Rockies fan. On the bandwagon since 7/6/93. Not giving up my seat. EVER! rockiesfan4ever reffered you

by rockiesfan4ever on Aug 19, 2007 5:38 PM MDT reply actions

Make Affeldt the long man

He should not be entrusted with any more leads in the late innings. Buchholz is going well and Affeldt obviously is not, but the pivotal questions remain: can Hurdle see it and will ne act on it? In the past, his changes of personnel have come at glacial pace, if then.

by moose14 on Aug 19, 2007 5:42 PM MDT reply actions

Next week?

I realize this week is done, and water under the bridge, but if we wanted to really gain ground in the playoff race, we could have actually beaten a couple of them in San Diego and LA.

We just can't seem to win games against good teams, especially on the road. Too many, woulda, coulda, shoulda's that end up just be not enough. We are a good young team. Just not better then say...the Padres or the Dodgers, or the Braves. To think we can some how back into the playoff race by beating up on the Pirates, or the Nationals (who have a very good record in the last month by the way) when we couldn't beat the teams that actually mattered just seems like purple colored wishful thinking.

Our Bullpen has imploded, we don't have a lefty specialist as our 2 lefties, can't get out lefties any more, and our rotation has lost 3 starters in 3 weeks, and the bad part one of them wasn't named Fogg. (who for the record I hope is back next year as a long man/6th starter out of the pen)

I'm afraid, reality is sinking in for me. We are going to be close...but just not close enough. The rising tide, that is the end of the season will wash us away with the other pretenders.

Chairman of the Sub-committee to resign Kazuo Matsui

by Redhawk on Aug 19, 2007 6:46 PM MDT reply actions

Speaking of

Lefty specialists and the BP, and this year being over, what is everyone's opinion of next year's BP and the pitching staff as a whole? I think 08's BP should be Corpas, Julio, Bucholtz, Rami, Morillo, Clarke, Weathers (eventually), and a left specialist (whether that be Fuentes, a FA, or a trade pickup). We need to get a lefty who can actually dominate other lefties, and I don't think we have that in our system right now.

As for starters, I like Cook, Francis, Jimenez, Morales, and guys like Hirsh, Fogg and Lopez for the final spot. I think we may have a very strong staff in '08. I for one am looking forward to next year, and I think it should be the year to go for it.

by smokinRox on Aug 19, 2007 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions

i like both lopez and hirsh a lot

but we should probably let one or both of them walk. the money they can command isn't worth it. i know the injuries the team has sustained in the past month have shown that you can never have too much starting pitching, but even without these two we have 6 solid guys, and 7 if reynolds recovers from his injury. i don't know, maybe it would be good to keep one of lopez/fogg. but it could end up being a sunk cost if the young guys continue the mild success they've had so far this year.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 20, 2007 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions

oops

title should read "i like both lopez and fogg a lot"

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Aug 20, 2007 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions

08 Pitching

the arms in the bull pen are hard to predict, as most pens seem to rotate names and bodies through out the majors. I'd like to resign Julio. I'd love to see Buchholtz get more late inning work. I'd love to see Morrillo next year (heck I'd love to see him NOW). Corpas is young, and we control him.

I'd like to see Fuentes stay if he can regain some control and get out lefties. If not, then he may have value on the trade market. If he goes we need a LOGGY bad, as I don't want to see Affeldt back at all. The rest is a scrum between veterans signed to minor league opt-out deals, and true minor leaguers like Ramirez that might step up.

Rotation: Lopez is a FA, and I'm not sure we need him. Fogg we have an option on (I think) If he would be a long man/6th starter type I'd love for him to be back. With a rotation of Francis, Cook, Hirsh, Jimenez, and Moralles in 08 with Reynolds and Fogg to step in case of injury, I like that rotation a lot! But with Hurdle I can see him starting Fogg, and sending one of the kids back to AAA for "seasoning"

The rotation could change if the Twins would take Stewart or Atkins and Hirsh for Santana prior to his walk year. Then Santana falls is love with Denver, and the Humidor, and signs a very long and cheap extension.

Chairman of the Sub-committee to resign Kazuo Matsui

by Redhawk on Aug 20, 2007 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions

Ouch

www.myspace.com/notthisday.com

by Squeaky on Aug 19, 2007 6:54 PM MDT reply actions

Next year

won't be any different than this year unless they Hurdle proof the bullpen with automatic, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th inning guys.

by DieHardRoxFan on Aug 20, 2007 4:36 AM MDT reply actions

insted of hurdleproof

how bout remover hurdle... i really truely belive hurdle isnt gettting the most out of the team and when a manager fails to do that then he needs to go. i really want them to hire joe girardi.

2008 plan for success: FIRE HURDLE

by roxfan4life on Aug 20, 2007 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions

Lefties

Tommy Baumgarner in Asheville has been fairly dominating in both years in the organization and sufficiently effective he became the closer (albeit because of injuries) until Casey Weathers was deemed ready to assume the position and didn't blow too many opportunities, a lot of strike outs. Then again, it would require changing the pattern of only advancing players a level a year and giving them a chance to move up if their skills warranted the progression.

by lahardball on Aug 20, 2007 6:09 AM MDT reply actions

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