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Wednesday Morning Rockpile:

So, the Mets got Johan Santana for what appears to me (and others) to be easily a less valuable package of prospects than the D-backs gave up for Danny Haren, or that the Mariners were rumored to be giving up for Erik Bedard before that whole thing blew up over the weekend. Go figure. That said, while the deal puts the Mets out in front of the NL East right now, they're in a similar boat to the D-backs in that their farm will have to be rebuilt quickly to maintain their dominance.

This does put more pressure on the Rockies own playoff ambitions for 2008, as being in the Wild Card chase is much less certain at this point, particularly when combined with less heralded moves around the NL such as the Phillies acquisition of Pedro Feliz. The Phils weren't getting any offense from their third basemen last season anyway, so upgrading the defense by as much as Feliz does definitely helps them. We've now seen three of the four other teams in that 88-90 win tier make upgrades this offseason, two significantly, as well as three of the four (Dodgers, Cubs, Brewers) in the 82-85 win range make enough upgrades to be considered real threats. I don't buy the Braves right now and I believe that the Padres are going to be heading south this season. Our own chances right now seem to hinge on keeping the Dodgers at bay and hoping that the Diamondbacks players disappoint while ours don't. I think we've got an okay shot at those things happening but we've still got to be considered underdogs right now. I would have loved to see a more certain upgrade to our team this winter to help us keep up the pace for 2008, and I hope the gamble to sacrifice that for even better shots in 2009 and beyond pays off.

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When was the last time a team, any team, found success by targeting a player solely for his speed and no other reason? Otis Nixon with the Braves in the nineties maybe? I'm drawing a blank here. So enter Scott Podsednik, who wants a pinch runner job and seems as much a disaster in the making as Steve Finley was at this time last year. Pods' career line against RHP's is .277/.341/.384. Willy Taveras has put up .300/.343/.350 and Ryan Spilborghs' .275/.332/.440. So the left handed Podsednik isn't markedly better than the right handed options -or Cory Sullivan for that matter- and yet you know Clint Hurdle will be tempted to keep him on the roster and use him instead because of the bling on his finger and the fleet in his foot. Speed's a great luxury to have. We all love watching players who have that added dimension to their game, but the moment you start structuring your player evaluation philosophy around it, you've taken a dangerous step toward the land of the Also-Rans, and there are Giants there. Speed should be a bonus you get with players who have other skills, not what you look for in acquiring them.

You know by now that I'm big on building the depth of the ballclub. The more arms we can get the better as long as they're attached to the shoulder somehow. Catchers woohoo- everybody needs lots of catchers. I'm even fine in targeting other legit defensive specialists up the middle as long as you have legit bats in front of them. Unfortunately that's not what we did here. Despite his speed, Scott's worse defensively in center than Sullivan or Spilborghs. Worse in left than Matt Holliday. Podsednik just doesn't qualify in any category that really matters though, he's not good defensively, he's less than mediocre as a hitter, and even his CS rate is too high. Even as a AAA emergency filler this looks like a bad decision. I'm sorry, there's simply no way I can look favorably on this move and hope the team comes to its senses by early March in letting him walk.

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agree with you....
about Podsednik.  I really can't see any positives with this move and I really don't trust Hurdle to make the right decisions with sub-par veterans.  I'll also add that it lessens the chance of Seth Smith making the club...or playing if he does make the team or even being called up in case of injury if he doesn't make the club.

by DenverBears on Jan 30, 2008 8:14 AM MST   0 recs

Podsednik?
I'm not a big Sullivan fan...but Podsednik?  I don't think Podsednik has the bat for a big league team.  Now if Pods could just sign over his speed to Sullivan or Spilly that would be great.

As far as the last time a player had an impact as just a pinch runner:  Herb Washington 74 Oakland A's  but the loss of the bench spot, and the fact when he came into pinch run, it had to be the last inning...or you had to use ANOTHER player to go in the field, really hurt.  That and when he came in everyone knew he was going to run...that was his job.  But that was the AL which substitutes a lot less because of the DH.  I can't see it working in the NL now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Washington

2006 TIME magazine "Person of the Year"

by Redhawk on Jan 30, 2008 8:41 AM MST   0 recs

Poor Idea
Dumb, dumb, dumb...

by Blake20th on Jan 30, 2008 8:46 AM MST   0 recs

in the minority here..
but I like this move. Scotty's a .270 career hitter and only a few years away from a 70 steal season. I admit injuries have slowed him down recently but for an invite I'd take a look.
InToddwetrust

by InToddwetrust on Jan 30, 2008 9:06 AM MST   0 recs

Okay, so I definitely exaggerated about Podsednik
Being a worse defensive left fielder than Holliday, (he ranks number one over the last three seasons according to plus/minus) but that's not really as relevant as his defense in center, which is really bad. If we were looking to add a left handed hitting, solidly defensive center field backup outfielder with some speed, I'd wish the Rockies would try and pry Joey Gathright away from the Royals. Not only is he everything we'd wish for in this position -speed, defense, good at getting on base, in his prime rather than past it- he can also jump over parked cars. Plus, he's probably relatively available after the Jose Guillen signing.

Corey Patterson would be perfect for this role, but with Scott Boras as his agent and the idea in their heads that he's still starter worthy, signing him might not be that easy.

Any others that fit this profile that might be available? Podsednik's recent teammate Jerry Owens for instance? I just think there would have to be better options out there.

by Rox Girl on Jan 30, 2008 10:29 AM MST   0 recs

I'd like Gathright
But that's probably not happening.  If this just an invite to Spring Training, then alright, let's kick the tires and see if his legs fall off.  If we sign him to anything, it must be a 1-year deal because health issues and other things just make that prohibitive.  Even then, he's not an upgrade over then bench we currently have, so no, I don't get this move.  
Waiting for the second coming of Kaz...

by MattTheRock on Jan 30, 2008 10:42 AM MST to parent up   0 recs

I agree
it's a minor league contract w/ spring training invite...so nothing to lose.  BUT Hurdle's love for veterans with extra veteraniness....worries me some.

I also like Gathright as a bench player.  I also like Owens over Pods.

2006 TIME magazine "Person of the Year"

by Redhawk on Jan 30, 2008 11:49 AM MST to parent up   0 recs

comments from Denver SABR meeting
I attended the Denver SABR Chapter's annual "hot stove" meeting on Saturday.  The guest speaker was Jeff Bridich, the Rockies' Director of Baseball Operations.  Jeff took lots of questions from the crowd.  Some comments I remember:

RoxGirl mentions every team needs lots of catchers.  The Rockies think Edwin Bellorin has a chance to be the backup to Yorvit allowing Ianetta to catch full time in AAA this season.  Bellorin has "some of the same intangibles" as Yorvit according to Bridich.  In the minors "Mike McKenry keeps getting better and better - he's working his butt off"

The Rockies think Willie Tavaras can steal 70 bases this year.  They want Willie to be more aggressive in stealing 3rd base.

Jaxon Nix was drafted as an "offensive second baseman", a Jeff Kent type with 20+ home run potential, who needed to work on his defense.  Now the scouting reports on Nix have flip flopped - a superb defender with questions about his bat.  Bridich said Carney Lansford (rockies minor league coach, now with the Giants) really worked with Nix at the plate last year and the team is hopeful Nix's offense will come around.

The team believes Manny Corpus is an all star in the making, but he has never struggled at the major league level.  Those struggles will come as they do for every closer, so that's why they want a vet like Fuentes backing him up (even at Fuentes high salary)

Reliever Vizcaino is younger and more durable than the departed Hawkins.  Hawkins throws harder but only has one pitch (the fastball), while Vizcaino has more than one pitch.

by titan on Jan 30, 2008 10:31 AM MST   0 recs

Ianetta in AAA???
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Bellorian fan and I wish the best for him.  It just is surprising that Ianetta would be shipped down for more work at this point... His bat is the biggest issue.  Cookie had his best games with Ianetta caddying for him, so I'll admit to being just a little shocked.
Waiting for the second coming of Kaz...

by MattTheRock on Jan 30, 2008 10:35 AM MST to parent up   0 recs

Interesting stuff
I like Tavares getting 70 steals...that would really be great...It would also mean he's on base a lot.

Rockies continue to sell/push Nix.  I'm still not buying.  Losing Kaz is a real downgrade I think.

Iannetta to AAA is interesting..not shocking.  That means they think Iannetta has a future....that he has a bat which needs swings to develop.  There is a point where a player is too old to be developed, and he's just a back up bench guy giving what ever he can get.

2006 TIME magazine "Person of the Year"

by Redhawk on Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM MST to parent up   0 recs

Bedard
I am new to this site, but have been reading the posts for a while now.  I am a huge fan of the blog - it is one of the first sites I check in the morning.

Any chance the Rockies will pursue Bedard now that the deal with the M's fell through?  If so, what would be an acceptable offer from a Rockie's fan standpoint?

by Fos on Jan 30, 2008 10:47 AM MST   0 recs

Bedard
Prying him away from the Orioles probably wouldn't be too tough given the depth of our system, but I don't think there's any way the team could sign him to the kind of extension he's looking for while maintaining the financial flexibility they need.  He'd probably just be a rental were he acquired.  That's not a good idea.
rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Jan 30, 2008 12:26 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Agreed...
Considering we're currently debating extentions for Atkins, Hawpe and Holliday (after just having given extentions to Francis, Cook & Tulo)....plus there's the 500 ton Gorilla in the room (Helton's contract).

I think a Bedard makes more sense if it looks like we won't be able to sign Holliday long-term.....OR....if we didn't already have Ulbaldo, Morales and Reynolds ready to join Francis at the top of our rotation.

If the Rockies played in New York, it would be a simple answer.  However, considering that our payroll needs to remain a bit closer to the middle of the pack, I'm just not sure a Bedard (or Santana for that matter) trade would be something to pursue.

If Helton had 2 fewer years left on his contract and Holliday had about 2 fewer years of service time.....we might be singing a much different tune.

by sg8335aa on Jan 30, 2008 3:04 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Sabean's letter to Giant's fans
One of those players who will make a huge impact not only on the 2008 team, but over the next five years is our new Gold Glove center fielder Aaron Rowand. As we stress pitching, speed and defense in the new era of Giants baseball, the 30-year-old All-Star embodies those three attributes while also coming off the finest offensive season of his career in 2007.

So, Rowand embodies "pitching, speed and defense"?  Who proof-reads the Giants form letters anyway?  

by patnkeren on Jan 30, 2008 5:06 PM MST   0 recs

If it's Sabean
It says a lot about how that organization is run. Poltroons.

by Silverblood on Jan 30, 2008 5:34 PM MST to parent up   0 recs

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