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Thursday Rockpile: State of the NL West

First of all, I'd like to apologize to Russ and PR's readers for my lost weekend. My Rockies burnout from 2008 was probably inevitable, but my hope is that it's over with and I can get back into the swing of writing Rox after putting it aside for a bit. So, yeah, let's get back into this.

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Since the last division team standing bowed out of the picture last night, we chould update the picture for 2009 a bit.

1. Los Angeles - The Dodgers got to the NLCS and have a solid young core to build around, but they're going to have to do a disproportionate amount of that building this winter. The team has 14 players entering free agency and it stands to lose most of them. The one key player they look likely to keep is Rafael Furcal, but he'll be an expensive pick-up and added to the arbitration raises for Russell Martin, Jonathan Broxton and Andre Ethier, and the wasted money already spent on Andruw Jones and Juan Pierre, the Dodgers deep pocketbook might not be able to satisfactorily fill all the team's needs this winter. Fans of the other teams in the division should pay particular attention to how the team goes about replacing the bats of Casey Blake and Manny Ramirez and the rotation slot of Derek Lowe.

2. Arizona - The Diamondbacks figure to be fairly strong again for next season, even if they aren't able to re-sign Adam Dunn. They will also likely have problems getting out of the 84-90 win range without a very strong second season from Max Scherzer if they don't bring Dunn back. Sort of like the Rockies, they have a problem with a shallow bullpen that figures to be even more shaky in 2009, and could prove to be more of a weakness than it has been the last couple of seasons. Moves that Josh Byrnes has made to shore up this problem area over the last year, specifically acquiring Chad Qualls and Jon Rauch, have worked about as well as Dan O'Dowd's Luis Vizcaino idea.

3. Colorado - Casey Weathers' TJ surgery means that one of the team's major internal options to replace the value of Brian Fuentes in the bullpen has gone by the wayside. Are there others internally? Not close enough, unfortunately. Aaron Weatherford is still probably a year plus away from being ready for MLB play. Esmil Rogers and Conor Graham might be the closest otherwise, but jumping them over AA and AAA while also shifting them to the bullpen is too much to ask for. A couple of wild cards -emphasis on wild- might be Samuel Deduno and Pedro Strop, who figure to start pitching again this year after their own season losing arm surgeries. Sort of like Graham and Rogers, however, their circumstance would normally dictate a season long recovery in the minors. I mention all of this as a preamble to the worry that O'Dowd might be more inclined to seek relief help as part of a Garrett Atkins or Matt Holliday trade this winter. Thiswould be something to cringe over, as we would most certainly be getting a low value return at that point.

4. San Francisco - the Giants new ownership wants the team to compete this season, but seems to be unaware how far from that level the team is. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if the Giants are major players on the free agent market and as is their usual custom, they should throw a lot of money uselessly at some veteran player.

5. San Diego - The Padres are putting out feelers for a Jake Peavy trade, and Khalil Greene also looks to be on his way out. Already gone are catchers Michael Barrett and Josh Bard. All of this seems to be pointing to a bigger rebuild by San Diego, which should leave them out of contention again in 2009.

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Greg Reynolds better turn out to provide some value to the team. All the Evan Longoria and Tim Lincecum stories are just embarrassing. It's clear that Reynolds won't be the kind of player that either of those two superstars are. I'm just hoping that 2008 isn't his high point in the MLB at this point. With the Reynolds reminder and the Casey Weathers elbow blow-up, it looks like all the bearish opinions for the top of two of the last three Rockies drafts were right, will Christian Friedrich break  that streak? It's too early to call, but in his first season he showed signs that he could go either way.

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Relief help

Kendrick and Arredondo from the Angels for Atkins? I would do that faster than it took you to read this post.

Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.

by Franchise26 on Oct 16, 2008 12:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Okay, this seems outrageous, but...

Holliday for Peavy, straight up? Gives the Pads salary relief after one year. Peavy’s expensive, but a true ace and signed for 3 more years, amirite?

Sux that Holliday would still be in the division, but odds that the Pads would turn around and flip him are high.

This is, of course, if the Rox don’t convince Holliday to take a 5 year extention by time of winter meetings…

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 16, 2008 1:25 PM MDT reply actions  

I think we would need to add prospects

given Peavys under market deal and the fact that he is signed longer.

Second half run?

by moomacher on Oct 16, 2008 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Longoria

every time I see him hit a home run over the Monster I cry a little bit inside.

Seriously, though, it does bring up the interesting debate about whether you should even worry about players being blocked when picking talent in the first round. Remember that at the time of this draft Atkins was in the middle of his best season ever at the big leagues. And of course Stewart had a pretty good year at Modesto in ’05.

Anyways, whiffing on first round picks is not a good thing if you are a small market team.

Second half run?

by moomacher on Oct 16, 2008 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Brain Lock

It’s hard to imagine what they were thinking when they had never thought that way in the past. Just a year earlier they nabbed Tulo when they already had Chris Nelson, Hector Gomez and Clint Barmes in the system.

Then to come out after the draft that very day and admit that Greg Reynolds would project out to be no better than a number 3 starter.

That’s insane!!

Just about everyone in here was stunned. It didn’t make any sense. The only solid argument was based on Reynolds size in comparison to Lincecum.. but there’s no excuse not to have known everything about Longoria because they had seen Tulo so much the previous year. It makes you wonder if someone downgraded him about something.. perhaps a non-existant character issue.

At any rate… it does make one cry and moan a little, for sure.

by roxhead on Oct 16, 2008 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

These decisions

are what keeps bad teams bad, or in the Rox case, might keep a very promising young team from being a perennial playoff contender and/or winning a title. I know its a dead horse, spilt milk, blah blah, but O’Dowd should wake up every day, look in the mirror, and say to himself “I must atone for that selection.”

by Teekalong on Oct 17, 2008 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair...

The Qualls deal was fine. The Rauch deal didn’t work out for anybody, because Bonifacio is a career minor leaguer at best…but Rauch was just terrible in a Diamondbacks uniform. Losing Juan Cruz would be a huge blow though.

by Azreous on Oct 16, 2008 1:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Well...to be fair

Lots of MLB teams had concerns about the way Lincecum throws. They figure he’ll have shoulder problems earlier than most players to.

by lizardlad01 on Oct 17, 2008 2:06 AM MDT reply actions  

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