Rox Girl's 2008 NL Projections
Speaking of coming from a horse's backside, here's where I think we wind up come the end of September:
NL West (Why does the East always get listed at the top? It's not even alphabetical)
- Colorado - I always get overly exuberant at the end of Spring Training. I will never apologize for being a homer in this regard. I'm going to say between 90-92 wins.
- Los Angeles - I'm worried about this team, Joe Torre's making the right decisions thus far. 89-91 wins
- Arizona - I think they wind up being relative disappointments in 2008, but I expect them to return to the top in 2009. 86-88 wins.
- San Diego - It's hard to tell because their FO does such a great job about keeping competitive in off years, but the Padres are rebuilding right now, and I see them taking a step back as they work to integrate Headley and Antonelli into the program. The downgrade defensively in the outfield costs them a lot more than people realize. 81-83 wins.
- San Francisco - How can you not watch this train wreck of an offense and take some perverse pleasure out of the misery of insufferable Giants fans? I'm looking forward to it. 68-70 wins.
NL Central
- Milwaukee - I like the Brewers, they've been underestimated IMO by a lot of people thanks to their smaller media market. 85-87 wins
- Chicago - If they had traded for Brian Roberts, I might have had them in first. They've got a deep pitching staff, and a decent lineup. I think Fukuodome's going to be okay, but not what the faithful are expecting. 83-85 wins.
- Cincinnati - I had initially thought more of their potential this year than I do now, it looks like 2009 will be their breakout season. 79-81 wins.
- Houston - This organization has become a model of inefficiency and an absolute joke. The team in 2008 isn't going to be as bad as they will be over the coming few seasons, but still bad enough. 71-73 wins.
- St Louis - I might be underestimating them because they have a decent and deep outfield, plus Pujols, which makes their offense more formidable than I think many are giving them credit for, but the rotation and bullpen will be giving all those runs back. 68-70 wins.
- Pittsburgh - The rebuilding process has begun, but it will take a lot of time. Last season made me believe that the Pirates young rotation is a bit overrated and the offense is just plain bad. I think they wind up with the worst record in the NL and are more a threat than the Giants for 100 losses. 62-64 wins.
NL East
- Atlanta - I've decided to go outside of the conventional wisdom for all three of my division winners this year. I think Atlanta's got one of the top offenses in the league and pitching that's better than a lot of people seem to think and certainly deeper than their two primary divisional foes. I see the NL East as a three team horse-race, and I think the Braves pull it out. 92-94 wins.
- NY Mets - I could see a wild card play-in game between the NL West and NL East second place teams. The Mets are top heavy, with stars up front masking considerable weakness in both the lineup and rotation and a bullpen that's not really improved from last season. 88-90 wins
- Philadelphia - The Phillies are one of the hardest teams for me to figure out because there's a considerable gap in talent between the elite offensive unit they put out everyday and the substandard pitching they'll have outside Hamels and perhaps Myers. 86-88 wins.
- Washington - I'm not sold on the Nats. I think their peak is mediocrity and they aren't going to hit that for another season or three. 72-74 wins.
- Florida - The NL's three worst teams -the Marlins, Giants and Pirates- should be fodder for the top. If a supposed contender unexpectedly struggles against this group, you could probably count them out. 68-70 wins.
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Maybe I need a slight revision upwards
I think the NL's improved a little bit relative to the AL this season (thanks to and since there were 1285 wins last season in the NL (not including our play-in game) and the middle numbers of this projection way we wind up with 1284, I think I may be underestimating win totals for a handful of teams. I hope the Rockies are one of them, but probably not.
by Rox Girl on
Mar 31, 2008 10:07 AM MDT
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oops, incomplete parenthetical
I had meant to write something to the effect of "thanks to higher caliber Japanese imports, Johan Santana plus Dan Haren being greater than Dontrelle Willis plus Miguel Cabrera, young players coming into their prime in the NL and aging stars in the AL" or something like that.
by Rox Girl on
Mar 31, 2008 10:11 AM MDT
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I'm already on record
for my NL West projection, so I won't change it now: D'Backs, Rockies, Padres, Dodgers, Giants.
NL Central: Cubs (It's 2008, but it's not their year), Brewers, Reds, Cards, Astros, Pirates.
NL East: Same as yours. No team from Philly is going to win its division two years in a row, and the Mets are the Mets.
Rockies take the Wild Card again.
"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence
by Russ on
Mar 31, 2008 10:09 AM MDT
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Taking the Under
I will take the "Under" on your Rockies win total. I will go with.
1. Diamondbacks 89
2. Dodgers 86
3. Padres 82
4. Rockies 80
5. Giants 69
by Xeifrank on
Mar 31, 2008 12:20 PM MDT
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just for the hell of it...
my predictions.
NL West: Rockies, Dodgers, Padres, D-backs, Giants
NL Central: Brewers, Cubs, Reds, Cardnials, Astros, Pirates
NL East: Mets, Braves, Phillies, Nationals, Marlins
Thank god for baseball season.
by jcd823 on
Mar 31, 2008 11:07 PM MDT
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I love predictions
My takes:
NL West:
1) LA mostly on pitching, but I also like the young core of Martin, Kemp, Either, and Looney. Throw in Furcal and they can over come having Pierre as the highest paid Pinch Runner in the history of the game
2) Rockies Hard to repeat, especially with our rotation...but hitting good enough for the Wild Card (Mets blow it the last weekend of the season)
3) D-Backs: Great young talent, but back end rotation issues 3-5, and some of that talent hasn't done squat yet (Drew, Upton, Young)
4) Padres: pitching staff, A. Gonzalez, and the Giants keep them out of the basement
5) Giants: Pitching staff keeps them from being worst team in the NL (barely) Babcock? a kid out of A ball is the SS?
Central:
1) Cubs: talent, Zambrano, crappy divisional talent = 1st.. Marmal will be a solid closer in a month
2) Brewers Always hurting starting pitching. Fielder is HUGE..and not the good kind. Gagne...funny how he fell off when steriods were banned.
3) Cardinals: That's right 3rd. I like Ankiel, Duncan, et al. Nice young OF, Molina best catcher, plus Pujols, Izturas is an upgrade at SS. Mulder back around Memorial Day, and Carpenter at the All-Star break plus Wainwright, make this team competitive.
4) Reds: Not so much they got better, but the rest sunk past them. Hate the band box. Show me the 1 star hitter. Encanarcion, Junior, ????. Not enough there, there. Middling team though.
5) Astros: How to mess up a Franchise in 4 easy years. Still a very good OF and a healthy Oswalt keeps them respectable (barely)
6) Pirates: Not enough to get out of last place. Say something good: ummm.....the park looks really pretty on TV!
NL East:
1) wow....I'm on the Braves band wagon too. Good pitching, good young guys with a nice vet mix. Don't call him Larry!!
2) Mets: Santana gave up the most HR's of any pitcher in the AL last year. A couple bad games and the NY fans will be booing one of the best pitchers in baseball. Reyes and wRight. This is our Wild Card competition. Funny how Delgado fell off when steriods were banned.
3) Phillies: I hate their park. I don't think the band box teams will be serious threats as they will have home/road splits like the Rockies of old. Enough hitting to be very good. Not enough pitching to beat the Mets and the Braves.
4) Washington Nationals: They could compete in the Central. Solid team, but middling.
5) Florida Marlins: Worst team in the NL. But Hanley Ramirez should lead league in walks.
What am going to do with all these "Jeff Baker for 2nd" bumper stickers?
by Redhawk on
Apr 1, 2008 9:44 AM MDT
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