SI Fan Survey BallPark Results
In March, Sports Illustrated recently surveyed fans across the nation with regard to the experience at their local ball-park. They asked them to rate the stadium based on the following factors: affordability, food, team quality, tradition, atmosphere, fan IQ, hospitality, promotions, traffic and neighborhood, then used those to come up with an overall ranking. (note: I stole this opening paragraph from Jim McLennan at the Snake pit on their reporting of this ranking. I'm tired and lazy)
Wonder where Coors Field ranked? How about #7! You can see the detailed results by clicking on the logo of each team. The Rockies scores are HERE
Lets look at the categories, and I'll throw in my 2 cents:
- Affordability: 6th. We do have relatively cheap tickets. Compare a Rockies game to any other major league sporting event, or even a movie, it's a bargain.
- Food: 9th ummmmm I'm not sure about this one. But since a lot of people like the ball park food and go to the game for this reason I can see it. Coors has a nice variety around the park.
- Team Quality: 6th Hey Fans, we just won the National League....6th? (see # 6)
- History and Tradition: 22 Our fans are being kind
- Ball Park Atmosphere: 12th Well we have less air. But there is nothing better then watching the sun go down behind the mountains on a cool summer evening.
- Fan Intelligence: 24th Yeah, the average fan knows crap about baseball. It's embarrassing at times. We are starting to boo Hurdle and some of his stupid moves, but last year, I was asked if Jimenez was still the closer. (No not Uballo). I don't think the average fan couldn't name a Rockie besides, Tulo or Helton. A Cards fan will gripe about a certain pitch 2 games ago and be able to back up why a certain pitcher shouldn't have thrown that certain pitch to a certain batter at that time.
- Fan Hospitality: 9th We are really too damn nice to the Cub fans.
- Promotions: 21st. Ladies night, free hot dog night, T-Shirt nights, I think the Rockies do ok with this. But it's not the reason people go to the games, which is why the fans don't give it much credit.
- Getting to the Game: 2nd ! We really do have it nice. A downtown park, and a great light rail system, and bus shuttle services. That's a rare combination. We even have some parking, if you know where to look.
- Neighborhood: 3rd Which is great considering we are behind Gas Lamp and Wrigleyville.
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Re: Fan Intelligence
God bless the city of Denver as a sports town, but that ranking is right on the money. We’re a very passionate sports town, to be sure – slap “Denver” or “Colorado” on the front of a jersey for any professional or minor league franchise, regardless of sport, and we’re behind it 100%. And I’d put the volume level at Mile High or Pepsi Center up against any fans in the US – we know how to make some noise.
But one thing Denver isn’t as a sports town is sophisticated. We’re quick to panic, quick to point fingers in scattershot directions, and quick to declare all is lost. All of this is without, on average, a terribly impressive understanding of some of the nuances. There are people who believe that Denver is a major-market sports town, which absolutely kills me – we’re the 21st largest market in Major League Baseball, and we’re probably around that level in all of the other major sports leagues too, but if you ask Joe Denver Fan, he hates the Rockies and wants the Monforts strung up because they don’t spend like a large market team, which he thinks the Rockies are. In fact, where the lack of sophistication among Denver sports fans is most obvious is in the treatment of the Rockies – they have never gotten a fair shake in this town, especially in comparison with the Broncos and Nuggets (whose front offices make the Rockies front office look like Camelot). The relatively poor ‘voices’ of Denver sports – columnists like Paige, Kiszla, and Lincicome and talk show hosts like Clough and Moser who are absurdly reactionary – play a role in this too.
Don’t get me wrong – I love Denver teams (with the Donkeys being the exception) and I know there are some Denver fans, many of them who post here, that are pretty savvy. But in comparison with, say, Chicago as a sports town… there is no comparison there.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
by Franchise26 on
May 10, 2008 5:03 PM MDT
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Apples to Grapefruits
There’s a whole bunch of stuff here that I agree with. One thing I don’t agree with is comparing Rox fans with Cards fans. St. Louis is steeped in baseball tradition. Steeped. It has always been, and forever will be, a baseball town. Cardinals lore and the fans’ extensive knowledge of the game is on passed from generation to generation like other family heirlooms. The Rox don’t have that kind of history here. It’s hard to build that kind of “sophistication” when prior to 2007, 1995 was the only year in franchise history worth talking about. And no, it doesn’t help at all when the local media (all inclusive) doesn’t know any more about the game than the guy who thinks Jimenez is still the closer. It also doesn’t help that the atmosphere of all sports has become “win or else”.
I can’t pretend to discuss pitch selection to a particular batter. Doesn’t make me a bad fan. It is true that I don’t have the kind of knowledge of the game that others do. That doesn’t make me unsophisticated, however. It just makes me a regular fan. And the sports world would be bankrupt without the likes of us.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
by rockhead on
May 10, 2008 8:13 PM MDT
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'bad' fans
I should probably have made this distinction earlier – I don’t think the Denver sports fan is a ‘bad’ fan. I don’t think you’re a bad fan, rockhead, if you can’t talk pitch selection. And I don’t think wanting to fire the Monforts every time the Rockies lose three straight games makes someone a bad fan. I love that Denver sports fans are so passionate. I love that our buildings are the loudest around. I love leaving Pepsi Center or Coors with ringing in my ears.
But as far as collective knowledge goes – Denver is not on par with Chicago, St. Louis, New York, Philadelphia… and the like – and like you said, a lot of that is tradition.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
by Franchise26 on
May 10, 2008 9:19 PM MDT
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Just to clarify
I was trying to point out how knowledgeable other teams fans are. I was listening to sports radio in St. Louis, and call after, call was “Why did so and so throw a slider” I was really surprised by the knowledge of their players, their struggles, their strengths and weaknesses. Same with Chicago fans. Our average fan just isn’t that into the Rockies and the ins and out. (also most that post here and other Rockies sites, are probably in the top 20%)
But I think the history may have a lot to do with that.
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 10, 2008 10:49 PM MDT
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I'm not doggin' you or your comments
You and I have always gotten along really well here on the Row. There’s just something about words like “sophistication” and “knowledgeable” and “average”, when used as collective terms, that raises a red flag for me. Annnnnnnnnnnndddddddddd it could be that I’m just a little too sensitive. But I’ve more often been accused of the opposite.
I’m in total agreement with you, however, on how overly polite we are to Cubs fans.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
by rockhead on
May 10, 2008 11:14 PM MDT
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Oh, and
the ballpark atmosphere. There is absolutely no place on earth I’d rather spend a warm August evening that Coors Field. Bliss.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
by rockhead on
May 11, 2008 12:09 AM MDT
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I thought 12th was really low
This ranking done by SI had fans take a poll, and compared their answers to fans of other teams. I was surprised at 12th. I’ve been to Wrigley…It has an amazing “atmosphere” different then Coors in that it echoed history, tradition, and neighborhood. I get why we weren’t listed with them. But 12th? Besides maybe Finway, and Yankee stadium, where else has such history?
But for a night out on a summer’s evening…..nothing beats Coors Field that I’ve been to.
Is this Heaven? No, it’s Iowa Coors Field
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 11, 2008 10:04 AM MDT
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The 11 Parks in front of Coors
Here they are, in order:
1. Safeco Field
2. Progressive (Jacobs) Field
3. Busch Stadium
4. Comerica Park
5. Miller Park
6. Wrigley Field
7. Citizens Bank Park
8. US Cellular Field
9. AT&T Park
10. PNC Park
11. Angel Stadium of Anaheim
Yankee Stadium is 13th and Fenway is 21st.
Every day is a Holliday!
by free7694 on
May 11, 2008 8:47 PM MDT
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I've been to several on this list (5 actually)
but the only one I would say had a better “atmosphere” would be Wrigley. But it was a different type of Atmosphere, that’s why I mentioned Yankee Stadium and Fenway (which I’m amazed is only 21st, as all the Sawk fans think Fenway is some kinda Mecca of the NE)
Safeco is nice….it really reminds me of Coors Field (designed by the same firm as most of the modern stadiums) I liked AT&T too. Not sure why the other team fans like them more then our fans liked Coors. 12th seems low.
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 12, 2008 9:56 AM MDT
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I've been to the old Busch..
But have yet to visit the new ballpark, although the sight lines look great on TV. The old Busch had some horrible views from the seats, and the concession area was completely blocked from the game. However, it had a lot of history in those hallowed grounds.
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by Charlie77 on
May 12, 2008 9:49 PM MDT
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I've been to Three Rivers
& I thought it was a pretty nice stadium, I’ve never been to PNC park though. I was there at the Pirates vs Rockies day game in 1998 when they announced to the crowd that they’re building a new stadium for the Pirates.
When they said the name is going to be PNC park the crowd boooed cuzz I guess they wanted the new stadium to be named after Roberto Clemente, but they did cheer when they heard the bridge by the stadium will be named Robert Clemente Bridge.
"Baseball is what gets inside you. It's what lights you up, you can't deny that. It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great." -Jimmy Dougan (Tom Hanks) "A League of Their Own"
by Tulowitzki Rox on
May 13, 2008 1:02 AM MDT
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