Tuesday Morning Rockpile: Return to the Desert
Where did we last leave off with the D'Backs? After having lost all three home games in the first series against the Snakes, a week later the Rockies traveled to Chase Field and lost the first two games. Then the team's savior, Aaron Cook, took the mound against Edgar Gonzalez and we wound up with this:
Atkins, Barmes, and Holiday each had a homer in the game. Let's see triple the number of wins for the Rockies in this series against the D'Backs after Thursday's game. Over at the Snakepit, snakecharmer previews the pitching matchups and (surprise! surprise!) gives the advantage in each game to the D'Backs. I'd give a push to the the first and third pitching matchups and the advantage to Owings in the second game. That's really only a result of having seen De La Rosa reach both extremes in his two starts. Well, that is to say, those may be his extremes. If his first start is more indicative of his performance . . . Oh, and the slumping offense needs to show up this series as well.
We know Garrett Atkins is one of those guys getting it done on offense, but
somehow he gets overlooked, his name usually popping up only on message boards with fans clamoring for the call-up of Triple-A prospect Ian Stewart.
And do you know what Stewart has to say about Atkins?
"Atkins is a great player. There’s just no room for me right now . . . But I also look at it as I just barely turned 23 (on April 5), second year in Triple-A. I would think a lot of guys would take that at my age. So I just try not to worry about it."
At least Stewart isn't "clamoring" for his call up; if he was, I guess he's not a "message board," so that would be slightly better.
We might see Julian Tavarez in a Rockies uniform soon, if a source close to the situation is correct.
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Julian Tavaraz?!
We got done with this years ago! WHY, O’Dowd? Why do you not have any idea of what constitute good pitching? WHY?!
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on May 13, 2008 9:03 AM MDT 0 recs
To make this clearer
I should say good outside-the-organization pitching help. Argh.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on
May 13, 2008 9:09 AM MDT
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Taveras and Tavarez on the same team?
The TV announcers could never handle it.
It irritated me no end in both the ‘05 and ‘07 World Series to hear Willy T constantly referred to as “Tavarez.” Joe “Can’t Carry His Daddy’s Microphone” Buck was the worst offender. If there had been two Anglo players named Helton & Hilton, think they’d have had the same problem? I doubt it.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
by maris61 on
May 13, 2008 5:31 PM MDT
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Hey, it could be worse.
Your team could trade for Bryan Corey.
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
May 13, 2008 7:02 PM MDT
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A few thoughts on the Morning Beats
1) Ringolsby’s article on the Rockies lack of timely hitting was terribly written. 3/4 of the article was on the pitching and bullpen changes. But the point is obvious: Rockies aren’t hitting, and more so with RISP. Here’s a chart from the page:
Player (average) – - – RISP Avg. – - – AB – - – H – - – SO
Atkins (.333) – - – .227 – - – 44 – - – 10 – - – 9
Hawpe (.254) – - – .294 – - – 34 – - – 10 – - – 10
Helton (.271) – - – .235 – - – 34 – - – 8 – - – 7
Holliday (.315) – - – .275 – - – 40 – - – 11 – - – 11
Totals (.297) – - – .257 – - – 152 – - – 39 – - – 37
But Hawpe hasn’t hit much at all, and Helton has been off as well. A clean up hitter that can’t hit is bad bongos. I suggest we have Holliday and Atkins bat 3 & 4, then have them bat again at 5 & 6 while wearing Hawpe and Helton jerseys. Maybe no one will notice. This doesn’t even mention that Tavares OBP is way off as well.
2) Julian Tavares. Well, the RMN mentioned that he’s a long shot, as the Rockies won’t give up anything for him. But he’s a vet past his prime….so I’m sure he’ll be in Denver soon. Personally if the Rockies show some patience I expect Fogg to be DFA as soon as Homer Baily is called up.
3) the Post’s Tavares article mentions the Rockies are shopping some of their OF depth, particularly Cory Sullivan. Besides old washed up mediocre veteran pitching, what else can the Rockies be looking at?
3) Nice to see Stewart keeping a level head. He even acknowledges he could be traded. Personally I would bring him up even if it’s a bench player. (which isn’t good for a young player) but the Rockies need a lefty, and Helton needs some time off. (love the guy, I really, really do, but he’s dragging down the line up)
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on May 13, 2008 9:03 AM MDT 0 recs
Hawpe may he RISP
I don’t know that I agree with you analysis here in having Atkins bat for Hawpe, at least with runners in scoring position.
While Hawpe may not generally be hitting, he is the best of those listed at hitting in the clutch, if that is measured by RISP avg.
Atkins’ avg is brining up the rear at .225.
None of them are anything to write home about, but Brad continues to perform in the clutch.
by Drewan on
May 13, 2008 11:36 AM MDT
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Also
That Indians second baseman with the LOLworthy name (Asdrubal Cabrera, and seriously, what were his parents thinking? Probably about as much as the parents of the Indianapolis Colts’ WR… Craphonso Thorpe!) turned an unassisted triple play. This really annoys me.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on May 13, 2008 9:08 AM MDT 0 recs
Just curious,
Why one of the most exciting plays in the game annoys you?
by Rox R Champs on
May 13, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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Because I am petty and jealous
and wanted Tulo to be the only one to do it, that’s why.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on
May 13, 2008 1:40 PM MDT
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At least
in recent history—I believe his was the 13th ever. Stupid Cabrera, we didn’t need a 14th for another ten years or so.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on
May 13, 2008 1:47 PM MDT
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I know
Odd how these kinds of things tend to go in spurts. Too lazy to look up when #12 was, but I think it was sometime in the 90s
by Rox R Champs on
May 13, 2008 1:57 PM MDT
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I pulled one off
in little league. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
by Teekalong on
May 13, 2008 2:07 PM MDT
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Didn't
Raffy Furcal do it while with the Braves?
Max Scherzer is all out of bubblegum.
by DbacksSkins on
May 13, 2008 7:03 PM MDT
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The dig at PR ,
I’m sorry “message boards,” from Renck in that Atkins article was classy as always.
by moomacher on May 13, 2008 9:41 AM MDT 0 recs
I disagree
I think it’s mostly true, actually – Atkins’ contributions generally go under-appreciated in relation to guys like Holliday (the big star), Helton (the veteran) and Tulo (the fan favorite). He’s a hell of a hitter, but the dilemma we’re facing with Stewart looking like he’ll definitely be big-league ready by 09 at least means we look at Atkins as the piece that has to be moved to start the Ian Stewart Era.
Oh, and there are other Rockies message boards out there, too.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
by Franchise26 on
May 13, 2008 10:13 AM MDT
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Or
We could trade Helton (yeah, I agree, it hurts to say it), move Atkins and his “defense” to 1B, and put Stewart at 3B.
by kosmo99 on May 13, 2008 10:23 AM MDT 0 recs
Have to find
a team willing to trade for him and get him to agree to the trade. At this point in his career, would Todd want to go somewhere else?
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by Russ on
May 13, 2008 10:34 AM MDT
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That's really
is the correct solution. HOWEVER, the fact that Helton is declining so fast, AND his huge contract are obstacles in trading him. He also has a hard core no trade contract, that usually takes big money or a winning team to get a player to waive. And that’s not to mention the loss of fan good will trading a player that is Mr. Rockie to most of the fans. Which all makes moving Helton almost impossible.
Now throw in the fact we don’t control Atkins and Holliday (our 2 best hitters) long term at the moment, these become the guys that we will have to replace. And the Stewart issue is tied to them at the hip. To complicate matters even more, Stewart looks ready or nearly ready now. But we control Atkins and Holliday through 09 (or Only through 09 depending on your point of view)
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 13, 2008 10:40 AM MDT
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The only way Todd would move is if he were somehow convinced that he was going to a team that had a legitimate chance at a World Series win. Personnaly I think he is a perfect fit for the Yankees. They need him, they can afford him, and with him they may have a better shot at what he wants, the series win.
by roxtalk on May 13, 2008 11:40 AM MDT 0 recs
Agreed...Yanks could both use and afford Helton
But would he go? He’s hardly a New York kind of guy. But if he stays, his contract will be even more of a terrible burden than it already is, given his lack of productivity, particularly as a cleanup hitter. I’d bat him second, Holliday third and Atkins fourth; so what if that’s two righty bats in a row rather than Hurdle’s preferred L-R-L-R order?
And I’d be extremely disappointed if Helton proves untradeable, as very likely is the case, and Atkins has to be sacrificed because of it. If Holliday walks and they trade Atkins so Stewart can play 3B, maybe then Garrett’s professional demeanor and potent bat will finally be appreciated. I hope it doesn’t come to that. But with a GM who actually wants to bring back Tavarez, who knows what’s possible?
by moose14 on May 13, 2008 11:59 AM MDT 0 recs
Your worse case scenerio
is what I fear will come to pass. It’s why I think this teams “window” is extremely small…like this year and next. (unless Jimenez become an ace, and Morales steps up, plus Reynolds, then we could have the pitching to compete, regardless of our line up in a couple years)
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 13, 2008 12:25 PM MDT
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I'm not looking forward to a 2010 lineup
of Helton-Stewart-Hawpe-Tulo 3-4-5-6
by moomacher on
May 13, 2008 12:26 PM MDT
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that does blow
Even if it looks like:
Fowler-Helton-Tulo-Stewart-Hawpe-LF-Iannetta
I’m not that crazy about it, and Helton will be 2 years older, he might be too slow and old to even bat #2.
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 13, 2008 12:32 PM MDT
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Who is the LF of the future
Spillborghs? By 2010 Rike maybe?
by moomacher on
May 13, 2008 12:35 PM MDT
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Good damn question
I’d think it may be Rike. Spilly is nice, but he really isn’t a starting OF (imho) and he will be 2 years older too. Seth Smith (27 in ‘10) , or maybe Christen Colonel (28 in 2010) are possibles (though they haven’t broke into the majors yet, and will be a little on the old side in 2010) . Maybe Holcomb or Mitchell (also with Ashville now)?
Or knowing O’dowd, some broken down has been vet, that was great 5 years ago, like a Johnny Damon
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 13, 2008 12:47 PM MDT
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er
that was 1-7….little vague there, sorry
Anyone seen Jeff Baker? Has he called in?
by Redhawk on
May 13, 2008 12:35 PM MDT
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You definitely have to drop Helton by 2010
He’ll be a liability in the two slot. An offense of Fowler-Rike or Smith-Tulo-Stew-Hawpe-Iannetta-Helton-Nelson
Actually will be scary good at that time, I wouldn’t worry. If we have Holliday, it will be the best in the MLB.
by Rox Girl on
May 13, 2008 2:10 PM MDT
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Stewart....
I’m not sure I agree that Stewart is looking ready yet and I certainly don’t think he’s likely to rejuvenate the offense. He has been hitting for impressive power in the Springs, but done nothing on the road. Add to it that he looked overmatched last year after being called up and I think it wouldn’t kill him to get more time in AAA.
I do agree that the long-term best thing for the team would probably be to move Helton, but I wonder how much salary the Rockies would have to absorb to do so. Also, I’m not so sure how well it would go over with the local fans if the Rockies trade Helton and essentially get nothing (in terms of players) in return, which may be what it takes to trade him and his salary.
by DenverBears on May 13, 2008 12:07 PM MDT 0 recs
His power on the road hasn't been shabby,
a .260 ISO is good, even in the PCL, and outside that one miserable Tennessee adventure, he’s looking pretty solid overall. His woes seem to be BABIP unluckiness this year rather than the just plain weakness at the plate he showed last year.
by Rox Girl on
May 13, 2008 1:53 PM MDT
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I guess that is true...
but I’m still not convinced he is ready. His .294 OBP on the road isn’t so hot and he is really racking up the strike outs (31% of his ABs—more than Adam Dunn). Also, if my calculation is correct then with two more hits he would have a BABIP of .306 on the road and a BA of .247. I don’t like to make too much of splits, but I wouldn’t say he has nothing left to learn in AAA.
by DenverBears on
May 13, 2008 5:54 PM MDT
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Helton
It’s true that Helton’s power has dropped, but he has remained a strong OBP guy (although he’s off a bit this year). If he can put up a .420ish OBP (as he has in the past), I think some teams would be interested, esp since those teams who have Beane disciples in their midst. Some financially wrangling may need to occur to get a deal done.
Helton is a strange fit for the cleanup spot. Clearly he’s a #2 or #3 hitter, but I don’t claim to understand any of Hurdle’s batting order philosophies.
by kosmo99 on May 13, 2008 12:23 PM MDT 0 recs
Man, this place can be harsh on the guys...
I agree that Helton’s OBP is a real plus for this team. Also, as I posted elsewhere, he is a pitcher’s nightmare, whether he reaches or not. He is currently second in all of baseball in pitches seen. That means he is driving up pitch counts plate appearance after plate appearance. Also, his defense is often overlooked. If not for his ability to pick balls out of the dirt, our infield and defense as a whole would not be among the league’s best.
Regardless, it’s a moot point. I don’t see any sort of deal to go down, and even if one was in the making, I wouldn’t expect Todd to accept any sort of a trade. Live with it doubters… Helton is here to stay.
by Rox R Champs on May 13, 2008 1:11 PM MDT 0 recs
Helton...
the problem really isn’t Helton, it’s Helton’s ballooning contract. Aside from the contract, I don’t think he hurts the team and Helton/Atkins (offensively, at least) is better than Atkins/Stewart right now and possibly next year as well—2010 and beyond, however, I think I’d go with Atkins/Stewart.
I do agree that Helton is likely here to stay, however.
by DenverBears on
May 13, 2008 1:29 PM MDT
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Call me
a sentimentalist on the Helton issue, but I absolutely oppose trading him unless (1) he is fully on board with it, which of course he’d have to be, 2) we actually get legitimate talent in return, and (3) we don’t pay him to play for someone else. Those things are not going to happen.
My head hears all the arguments in favor of moving him, but my heart says that this was the guy that held this franchise together forever. Further, even if he isn’t the same guy, I remember that feeling back in his heyday that whenever he came up to bat, something great was going to happen. Plus, he’s all class, all the time.
Finally, of course, if we would have traded him for salary relief and Manny Delcarmen or whoever last year, I would not be looking at a World Series “rocktober” towel prominently displayed in my office. Of that, I am quite certain. Sometimes sentimentality has to win out, I think this is one of those times…
by Teekalong on
May 13, 2008 2:15 PM MDT
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The "whoever" included Mike Lowell...
who had a career year in ‘07 (.324-21-120) for the Red Sox. He’s not Helton, but is younger ( six months) and has won a Gold Glove himself. In addition, he hit .353 in the postseason and is a solid clubhouse presence. I believe the proposed trade was Lowell, either Delcarmen or Craig Hansen and one other young player for Helton.
Nobody knows how last season would have played out with Lowell at third and Atkins at first; but Lowell is far too good a player to be categorized as a “whoever.”
One thing we can agree on: the non-trade worked out quite well for both teams last year.
by alex colfax on
May 13, 2008 3:38 PM MDT
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That's true
And I dig Lowell because I know some of his family members, but it was hardly a trade made for the future since Lowell was a FA this past summer and would have been long gone. He was just a salary throw-in.
by Teekalong on
May 13, 2008 5:11 PM MDT
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I BELIEVE IT'S A "MOO POINT".....
Joey Tribiani.
by 91 wins in 08 on
May 13, 2008 3:44 PM MDT
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A cow's opinion
it doesn’t matter. I can’t believe I know that.
by Teekalong on
May 13, 2008 5:11 PM MDT
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Sigh...
Well, glad us wee message boards can be Renck’s foil, but here’s the way I see things right now:
1. The Rockies have multiple holes to fill to be a really solid contending team.
2. The Rockies have a handful of players good enough and with affordable contracts who could fill multiple holes if traded:
Matt Holliday
Garrett Atkins
Brad Hawpe (maybe)
Troy Tulowitzki
Aaron Cook
Jeff Francis
Now… what are the going to do?
Trade Stewart and other prospects in a package for one player and tread water not really being good enough for a championship or bad enough to drop out of contention for a couple of seasons before collapsing without a farm system to replace Atkins and Holliday?
or
Trade Holliday or Atkins before they bolt and fill multiple needs, leaving the farm system in tact but bringing the team to the championship level?
Those are the choices, really. And nobody’s saying that trading Atkins is desirable or that he’s not a very good player. I just see that a Stewart trade doesn’t get us enough help and that’s the primary reason (besides the whole defensive value thing which I’m not going to get into here) that I think an Atkins trade is in the team’s best interest.
by Rox Girl on May 13, 2008 2:07 PM MDT 0 recs
Not that we have any choice...
but do you trust O”Dowd to make an efficacious trade?
by alex colfax on
May 13, 2008 4:06 PM MDT
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I was just about to say the same thing
Sure, Jennings for Hirsh/Willy T/Bucky worked out great… but let’s just say that’s the exception, not the rule.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on
May 13, 2008 4:47 PM MDT
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Why not?
I don’t get why we act like he’s never done it before around here.
At the end of last season we were just about in agreement that O’Dowd had learned from his past mistakes, that he wasn’t the type to make Figgins-for-Bartee or Bard/Gerut-for-Cruz type trades anymore because he understood that those kinds of quick-fix deals rarely pan out in the long run. Now we’re 8 games under .500 again, and Dan O’Dowd didn’t trade for Haren or Santana or Walter Johnson, so he sucks.
You’re damn right I trust O’Dowd to make the right move. I realize that’s going to put me in the VAST minority in these reactionary times, but I’m not going to let a 15-23 record change my long held opinion that O’Dowd’s become more capable of pulling the right strings as his tenure has advanced. Just like I didn’t let an 18-27 record do that to me last year.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
by Franchise26 on
May 13, 2008 4:50 PM MDT
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I agree with you.....
so I guess the minority is a little less vast.
by DenverBears on
May 13, 2008 5:39 PM MDT
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I think it's a loud minority
silent majority.
If we ran an O’Dowd apporval rating, it would probably be positive. I can’t guarantee the same for Hurdle, and I’m positive his assitants would get smashed, but I think if people sat down and gave it thought beyond an instant reaction, they’d approve of O’Dowd’s work as GM.
The problem with judging O’Dowd is people will overlook his work in less prevalent fields, as in organizing and cooperating with the scouting/development depts. etc.
by David OhNo on
May 13, 2008 10:36 PM MDT
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Knowing some of the trade proposals he's turned down...
I would say that at least he hasn’t been making the bad trades. He, like most GM’s, does a lot better when he’s got the desired guy and the other team’s truly interested rather than just trying to dump somebody. It’s when O’Dowd’s desperate for help that he gets into trouble, and as long as he doesn’t get panicky, he should be fine.
by Rox Girl on
May 13, 2008 5:00 PM MDT
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You can look at it this way
If the Washington Nationals traded away Ross Detwiler, their top prospect, and two other solid B/C prospects to the A’s for Rich Harden, how would the baseball world perceive this deal?
What if Pittsburgh sent Andrew McCutchen and Steven Pearce to Oakland for Joe Blanton?
Could we consider these deals positive for the immediate and the future for these clubs?
I know the Rockies talent situation is different than these clubs, but both these teams have a better win percentage and similar or superior run differentials.
Bottom line, I don’t think it’s too far fetched to consider this team “re-building” (or re-tooling or what ever fancy word is used to mean “not good enough to make the playoffs this year but not entirely without talent”).
by David OhNo on
May 13, 2008 11:04 PM MDT
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I have a couple of thoughts/open questions I'd like your opinion on
1 Rox Girl said “re-building”....but are we? Doesn’t rebuilding mean getting rid of older, over paid for their production players, to free up spots for younger players? cause I don’t see that at all. How much “re-tooling” be done mid season?
2) can re-building NOT include one of the Rockies big problems and that is getting an ACE top of the line pitcher?
For the record, I don’t think this team is “re-building” but wished it was. I think this season is over. We need to start finding out what we have in the minors that can help us in 09 and 10. Lastly I think we have an ACE pitcher in Uballo Jimenez. His stuff is amazing. And it’s easier to create an ace than it is to buy a #1 (neither being very easy)
WHAT THE (expletive deleted) IS GOING ON WITH THIS TEAM? YOU ARE THE NATIONAL (expletive deleted) LEAGUE (expletive deleted) CHAMPIONS, START PLAYING LIKE IT!!! WE NOW ARE IN LAST PLACE WITH THE WORST (expletive deleted) RECORD IN THE LEAGUE! THAT IS UNAC-(expletive deleted)-CEPTABLE!! YOU GUYS HAD BETTER SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LONG LOOK AT YOUSELVES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE (expletive deleted) IS GOING ON BECAUSE THIS TEAM IS TO (expletive deleted) GOOD TO BE PLAYING THIS (expletive deleted)! NOW, I’LL BE IN MY OFFICE IF ANYBODY FIGURES ANYTHING OUT. (SLAMS OFFICE DOOR) courtesy of free7694
by Redhawk on
May 14, 2008 9:28 AM MDT
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Disagree
On several points, as we’ve discussed before. This is a long season and though it looks bleak now, we can still salvage a good year out of it. We know you think it’s over for us…
But we’ve been through that point. I still disagree that we should bring up all the young guys at this point. That is what August and September are for, assuming that you’re correct and we are hopelessly out of it. Time will tell on that…
I also disagree that Ubaldo is an ace at this point of his career… Potential ace? You bet. But he has too many control issues right now, and gets too jittery with traffic. By May of 09, it wouldn’t surprise me if he were a legitimate ace, but not right now. Our closest thing to an ace right now is Cookie.
by Rox R Champs on
May 14, 2008 10:53 AM MDT
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I meant that I think he WILL be an ace
or he’s an ACE that is just blooming. He’s a bare bush that could be covered in roses. I’m glad you think last place is good. cause I have tickets to Sunday’s game, that I can’t give away.
WHAT THE (expletive deleted) IS GOING ON WITH THIS TEAM? YOU ARE THE NATIONAL (expletive deleted) LEAGUE (expletive deleted) CHAMPIONS, START PLAYING LIKE IT!!! WE NOW ARE IN LAST PLACE WITH THE WORST (expletive deleted) RECORD IN THE LEAGUE! THAT IS UNAC-(expletive deleted)-CEPTABLE!! YOU GUYS HAD BETTER SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LONG LOOK AT YOUSELVES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE (expletive deleted) IS GOING ON BECAUSE THIS TEAM IS TO (expletive deleted) GOOD TO BE PLAYING THIS (expletive deleted)! NOW, I’LL BE IN MY OFFICE IF ANYBODY FIGURES ANYTHING OUT. (SLAMS OFFICE DOOR) courtesy of free7694
by Redhawk on
May 14, 2008 12:16 PM MDT
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Please don't put words in my mouth
I’ve never said I like last place. I don’t. If you expect us to crawl out of the basement by fielding a team that isn’t our best lineup, you’re dillusional… I’ll take those tickets, by the way, if you’re giving them away
by Rox R Champs on
May 14, 2008 1:11 PM MDT
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Hey Guy, way to support your team
You’re jumping ship? Why not go out and support your favorite team? If you have tickets, go to the freakin game. There are a lot of people on this forum that would love for the opportunity to sit at Coors on a 85 degree Sunday afternoon, but they are out of town. I haven’t stopped going to games. I haven’t stopped cheering for my favorite team. Ridiculous… If you stop going out to support your team through hard times, that makes you a fair weather fan… or a bandwagon jumper.
by Rox R Champs on
May 14, 2008 1:27 PM MDT
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Please no Julian Taveraz
Other than that, I don’t have much to say for the day. Except please win, that would be nice. I need something to concentrate on that is relaxing and NOT american government. Besides, my head has been shot ever since I made the mistake of getting a grande coffee instead of my usual tall.
Oh, totally off topic, but I entered that “Live the Dream” sweepstakes because the player of the month is Spilly. You have to ask a question and then tell why you should be the one to ask it in person…I chose a really random, odd question, but my reasoning is that Spilly is plenty odd, he doesn’t need a textbook “what’s your favorite baseball memory?” kind of question. Besides, he’s very much like me in a lot of ways. I figure they’ll give it to a sob story and/or a kid, but I figure what hey…nothing to lose, right?
www.notthisday.com ....coming September 26th and 27th at the Pinnacle Event Center, Denver.
by Squeaky on May 13, 2008 5:14 PM MDT 0 recs
Trades
The Rockies need to be looking. They’re short of pitching at the top levels of the system, but have at least 4 CF’s (Willy T, Pods, Spilly, Sullivan) plus Fowler on the way (and Baker as an OF who would start for many teams) a host of middle infielders (Tulo, Barmes, Q, Herrera), and two 3B’s who shold both be starting in the big leagues. There’s gotta be enough trade bait for a pitcher or two in there somewhere. Longterm, re-tread pitchers (Wells, Redman, Fogg, Tavarez, et al.) aren’t going to get the Rox where they need to go, not with what Arizona’s putting out there in their rotation.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
by maris61 on May 13, 2008 5:43 PM MDT 0 recs
Renck going to bat once again for Atkins...
Is he getting a commission off Garrett’s next big contract?
Nothing against Atkins the player (my vote is for him taking over first if at all possible), but is it Renck’s job to propagandize for a player instead of the team when granted access as a “beat writer?”
by David OhNo on May 13, 2008 10:48 PM MDT 0 recs








