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Game #45: De la Rosa vs Misch

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San Francisco Giants @ Colorado Rockies


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San Francisco Giants @ Colorado Rockies

05/19/08 6:35 PM MDT

San Francisco Giants Colorado Rockies
Fred Lewis - LF Willy Taveras - CF
Ray Durham - 2B Clint Barmes - SS
Randy Winn - RF Matt Holliday - LF
Bengie Molina - C Garrett Atkins - 3B
Aaron Rowand - CF Todd Helton - 1B
Rich Aurilia - 1B Ryan Spilborghs - RF
Jose Castillo - 3B Jeff Baker - 2B
Omar Vizquel - SS Yorvit Torrealba - C
Pat Misch - P Jorge De La Rosa - P


 

There are a lot of people who for some reason find it worth there while to spend time and thought on the Rockies. Obviously, some of us spend an amount that tips us well into the crazy column. But the type of people who I never clearly understood would give much time at all to the team, but for some reason will anyway, are those that see absolutely nothing good with the franchise, regardless of what happens.

These people will quickly write off success as a fluke, a one time deal, but then wholly buy into any and every negative narrative of the team and then seem most happy and boisterous when the Rockies are losing. I appreciate thoughtful criticism that actually explores how the team needs to get better, and I'm not talking about that, even if it leans negative, as there's usually a constructive element that goes along with it. Instead, I'm talking about people whose basic understanding of the game is so rudimentary that they should instinctively know their poseurs and should therefore keep quiet if they want to seem even half way intelligent. Instead, they still feel the need to just say something for the inflammatory effect. For instance, read the comments at Drew Litton's cartoon today.

One characteristic that will instantly alert me that an argument lacks the savvy I'm looking for is laying total blame for the first third of the season on the pitching staff, when it should mostly be shouldered by the offense. Any and every contemporary baseball fan should know about park effects by now, unless they're twelve years old.

Here's a current ranking of the NL teams by ERA+:

  1. Arizona 127
  2. Chicago 120
  3. Atlanta 114
  4. Philadelphia 108
  5. New York 106
  6. Los Angeles 105
  7. St. Louis 104
  8. Colorado 98
  9. Cincinnati 97
  10. Houston 96
  11. San Francisco 95
  12. Florida 94
  13. Washington 94
  14. San Diego 91
  15. Milwaukee 91
  16. Pittsburgh 84

Granted, we are a whole lot closer to the bottom than the top in this, and I'm not saying that more can't be done to fix the staff, but still the eighth place pitching staff in the NL isn't nearly as big a problem for us as the fourth to the worst offense in the league.

OPS+:

  1. Chicago 116
  2. Atlanta 115
  3. Florida 113
  4. St. Louis 112
  5. Arizona 105
  6. Houston 102
  7. Philadelphia 102
  8. New York 101
  9. Cincinnati 101
  10. Los Angeles 96
  11. Pittsburgh 95
  12. Milwaukee 92
  13. Colorado 91
  14. San Francisco 88
  15. San Diego 83
  16. Washington 79

Alright, sorry for the rant.

 

There are just three teams that rank below the Rockies in both ERA+ and OPS+ categories, the Padres, the Nationals, and tonight's opponent, the Giants. The Rockies better well keep it that way, at least in regards to our current opponent. Feel free to move up on the rest of the league anytime, boys.

Go Rockies!

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Check out the bullpen

despite the memorable blown games, sports these ERA+ numbers:

Fuentes 190
Corpas 68
Herges 184
Bucky 297!!!!!
Speier 136

Even Gas Can is sporting a 220 ERA+

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 5:43 PM MDT   0 recs

On a side note

The Giants have never, ever won a game started by Pat Misch. Let’s keep that going tonight.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 5:55 PM MDT   0 recs

Atkins hitting clean-up

Baker gets his fifth start in a row, Torrealba’s back in, and Spilly’s starting for Hawpe against the left hander.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 5:57 PM MDT   0 recs

I guess Clint wasn't kidding when he said

that Torreabla is still the starter

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 6:01 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Argh!

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Helton hitting 5th tonight.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:04 PM MDT   0 recs

About that fluke

I agree with your premise, RoxGirl. We’ve heard last season’s 21 of 22 being labeled as a “fluke” a lot recently; I don’t buy it. The Rockies did it, didn’t they? My dictionary defines fluke as an accidental success or a stroke of luck.. I’m an old believer in if you can do it, it ain’t luck. The 21 of 22 was not to be taken that the Rockies had permanently arrived as an elite team as some would suggest.

Another note on the rankings front…Colorado Rockies are back in their usual spot atop MLB in fielding percentage and fewest errors committed. Good D is always a great asset to have.

by DeepPurple on May 19, 2008 6:05 PM MDT   0 recs

I also don't think it was a fluke

In our last 118 (regular season) games last year, we were 26 games over .500 (72-46). 120 games doesn’t qualify as a fluke.

I rest my case.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 6:15 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Which is interesting...

This means that over our last 162 games, a full season, that the Rox are still sixteen games over .500.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 6:18 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

It's been a good Monday so far.

I want it to end with a Rockies victory.

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on May 19, 2008 6:27 PM MDT   0 recs

OK Rox,

It’s the Rockhead’s birthday, and in addition to all the other good things that have come his way today, he would like to finish the day with a Rockies winner. No pressure or anything. But I know people who know people…..

OK, yeah right. Just win this one for your Rockhead!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson

by rockhead on May 19, 2008 6:35 PM MDT   0 recs

Happy birthday Rockhead,

Mine’s tomorrow, so we better just root for a Rox sweep.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 6:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That'll work just fine!

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson

by rockhead on May 19, 2008 6:53 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Y'all are old

j/k :-)

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Happy Birthday!

The Rockies have a habit of not winning when someone announces their birthday here. Or, they don’t win on my birthday.

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on May 19, 2008 6:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

K!

Nice way to start.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:39 PM MDT   0 recs

oh damn.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:42 PM MDT   0 recs

Randy Winn send one out.

Yeesh.

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on May 19, 2008 6:42 PM MDT   0 recs

Well

happy birthday…

Formerly rockiesfan06 - but the world's most generic username just wasn't cutting it.

by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 6:43 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Number two on the year for Winn

There are more embarrassing Giants to give up homers to, but DLR better make sure that’s the only one.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 6:44 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

2 pitches down the middle of the plate.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:45 PM MDT   0 recs

Um

I think Bad DLR showed up today.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 6:45 PM MDT   0 recs

I mentioned, right, that I just don't like Molinas?

That I sort of associate them with mosquitoes?

Get the ball down, DLR.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 6:46 PM MDT   0 recs

Another pitch down the middle,

but luckily Rowand lined it right to Willy. Let’s give DLR plenty of time to compose himself, offense.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 6:48 PM MDT   0 recs

Argh

If that’s not a broken bat, thats a bloop into left.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:52 PM MDT   0 recs

so that's were Jose Castillo wound up....

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:00 PM MDT   0 recs

at first base.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

on a side note

john lester has a no hitter thru 7 innings

by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:04 PM MDT   0 recs

boo for the blosox

Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:05 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Boo!

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:06 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

atta boy!

Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:07 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Its looking like our

excellent bullpen will be getting some usage tonight

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 7:04 PM MDT   0 recs

Okay, now he's just too low.

But at least DLR’s pitch clusters look better than they did in the first.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 7:05 PM MDT   0 recs

Groundout to third

about time.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:08 PM MDT   0 recs

what do you think

about this pitch tracker gadget?

Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:10 PM MDT   0 recs

the one on Gameday?

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:10 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

nah

the one on FSN Rocky Mountain

Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:11 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Hello? Offense?

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:14 PM MDT   0 recs

DLR is bad.

that is all.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:18 PM MDT   0 recs

Next pitcher, please!

I can talk myself into Glendon Rusch, I guess

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 7:20 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting stat on Spilly

Here are some batting average splits for him this season:

As a pinch hitter: .471
As a starter: .255

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:19 PM MDT   0 recs

Strand

Lewis at third. It might be hard, but it can be done.

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on May 19, 2008 7:19 PM MDT   0 recs

K!

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:21 PM MDT   0 recs

A NO HITTER YOU SAY?

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:22 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Two innings for Misch.

No hits. A no hitter for Misch.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 7:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

a NO HITTER you say?

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

bah sac fly.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:23 PM MDT   0 recs

Could have been worse.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:24 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

DLR's dropped his ERA by nearly half a run this game.

That’s got to count for something.

No seriously, if he can get through three more innings with just another run or two given up, I think we’ve got to take that from a fifth starter. Just one walk, three hits after three, that’s not terrible. Terrible is our offense still, which can’t give him diddly.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 7:27 PM MDT   0 recs

Yorvit....

3-0, and he gets the green light. You give the green light to Torrealba, Clint? That man-crush has gone way too far.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 7:29 PM MDT   0 recs

hooray 1-2-3

god our offense blows.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:31 PM MDT   0 recs

I think we'd be doing better against Cy Young

Considering he’s been dead for 53 years.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:36 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I just think

That Cy Young’s corpse would walk an awful lot of hitters.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice play by Barmes.

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:34 PM MDT   0 recs

AAA team...

So what does that make us?

Formerly rockiesfan06 - but the world's most generic username just wasn't cutting it.

by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 7:38 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I suggest not watching ESPN

for the next 24 hours or so

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 7:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

No kidding

This is going to be disgusting…as if the usual Red Sox/Yankees/Cubs/Mets games constantly being shown isn’t bad enough.

Formerly rockiesfan06 - but the world's most generic username just wasn't cutting it.

by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 7:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

well rockies pissin me off as normal...

atleast my red wings r heading to the stanley cup!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:38 PM MDT   0 recs

. . .

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on May 19, 2008 7:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Red Wings Suck

That is all.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

hey hey cmon noww

the stars pissed them off n unleashed the beast tonightt

by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Doesn't change the fact

That I, as a responsible Coloradoan, hate them.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on May 19, 2008 7:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Who are you??

That’s not exactly the kind of thing you say on a Colorado sports board, regardless of which sport its for.

by Rox Girl on May 19, 2008 7:41 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

my teams are all over the place

thats just the teams i liked when i first started watching sports…no offense was meant towards the avs lol

by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

BOOM!!!!

Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.

by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT   0 recs

Barmes

another HR!!!

by moomacher on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT   0 recs

HR FOR DEER MEAT!!!!

Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT   0 recs

Barmes!

Bringing it closer.

"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ