Game #45: De la Rosa vs Misch
San Francisco Giants at Colorado Rockies, May 19, 2008 6:35 PM MDT
There are a lot of people who for some reason find it worth there while to spend time and thought on the Rockies. Obviously, some of us spend an amount that tips us well into the crazy column. But the type of people who I never clearly understood would give much time at all to the team, but for some reason will anyway, are those that see absolutely nothing good with the franchise, regardless of what happens.
These people will quickly write off success as a fluke, a one time deal, but then wholly buy into any and every negative narrative of the team and then seem most happy and boisterous when the Rockies are losing. I appreciate thoughtful criticism that actually explores how the team needs to get better, and I'm not talking about that, even if it leans negative, as there's usually a constructive element that goes along with it. Instead, I'm talking about people whose basic understanding of the game is so rudimentary that they should instinctively know their poseurs and should therefore keep quiet if they want to seem even half way intelligent. Instead, they still feel the need to just say something for the inflammatory effect. For instance, read the comments at Drew Litton's cartoon today.
One characteristic that will instantly alert me that an argument lacks the savvy I'm looking for is laying total blame for the first third of the season on the pitching staff, when it should mostly be shouldered by the offense. Any and every contemporary baseball fan should know about park effects by now, unless they're twelve years old.
Here's a current ranking of the NL teams by ERA+:
- Arizona 127
- Chicago 120
- Atlanta 114
- Philadelphia 108
- New York 106
- Los Angeles 105
- St. Louis 104
- Colorado 98
- Cincinnati 97
- Houston 96
- San Francisco 95
- Florida 94
- Washington 94
- San Diego 91
- Milwaukee 91
- Pittsburgh 84
Granted, we are a whole lot closer to the bottom than the top in this, and I'm not saying that more can't be done to fix the staff, but still the eighth place pitching staff in the NL isn't nearly as big a problem for us as the fourth to the worst offense in the league.
OPS+:
- Chicago 116
- Atlanta 115
- Florida 113
- St. Louis 112
- Arizona 105
- Houston 102
- Philadelphia 102
- New York 101
- Cincinnati 101
- Los Angeles 96
- Pittsburgh 95
- Milwaukee 92
- Colorado 91
- San Francisco 88
- San Diego 83
- Washington 79
Alright, sorry for the rant.
There are just three teams that rank below the Rockies in both ERA+ and OPS+ categories, the Padres, the Nationals, and tonight's opponent, the Giants. The Rockies better well keep it that way, at least in regards to our current opponent. Feel free to move up on the rest of the league anytime, boys.
Go Rockies!
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Check out the bullpen
despite the memorable blown games, sports these ERA+ numbers:
Fuentes 190
Corpas 68
Herges 184
Bucky 297!!!!!
Speier 136
Even Gas Can is sporting a 220 ERA+
On a side note
The Giants have never, ever won a game started by Pat Misch. Let’s keep that going tonight.
Every day is a Holliday!
Atkins hitting clean-up
Baker gets his fifth start in a row, Torrealba’s back in, and Spilly’s starting for Hawpe against the left hander.
I guess Clint wasn't kidding when he said
that Torreabla is still the starter
Argh!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Helton hitting 5th tonight.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:04 PM MDT reply actions
About that fluke
I agree with your premise, RoxGirl. We’ve heard last season’s 21 of 22 being labeled as a “fluke” a lot recently; I don’t buy it. The Rockies did it, didn’t they? My dictionary defines fluke as an accidental success or a stroke of luck.. I’m an old believer in if you can do it, it ain’t luck. The 21 of 22 was not to be taken that the Rockies had permanently arrived as an elite team as some would suggest.
Another note on the rankings front…Colorado Rockies are back in their usual spot atop MLB in fielding percentage and fewest errors committed. Good D is always a great asset to have.
I also don't think it was a fluke
In our last 118 (regular season) games last year, we were 26 games over .500 (72-46). 120 games doesn’t qualify as a fluke.
I rest my case.
Every day is a Holliday!
Which is interesting...
This means that over our last 162 games, a full season, that the Rox are still sixteen games over .500.
It's been a good Monday so far.
I want it to end with a Rockies victory.
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OK Rox,
It’s the Rockhead’s birthday, and in addition to all the other good things that have come his way today, he would like to finish the day with a Rockies winner. No pressure or anything. But I know people who know people…..
OK, yeah right. Just win this one for your Rockhead!
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That'll work just fine!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
Y'all are old
j/k :-)
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Happy Birthday!
The Rockies have a habit of not winning when someone announces their birthday here. Or, they don’t win on my birthday.
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K!
Nice way to start.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:39 PM MDT reply actions
oh damn.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:42 PM MDT reply actions
Randy Winn send one out.
Yeesh.
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Well
happy birthday…
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Number two on the year for Winn
There are more embarrassing Giants to give up homers to, but DLR better make sure that’s the only one.
2 pitches down the middle of the plate.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:45 PM MDT reply actions
I mentioned, right, that I just don't like Molinas?
That I sort of associate them with mosquitoes?
Get the ball down, DLR.
Another pitch down the middle,
but luckily Rowand lined it right to Willy. Let’s give DLR plenty of time to compose himself, offense.
Argh
If that’s not a broken bat, thats a bloop into left.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 6:52 PM MDT reply actions
so that's were Jose Castillo wound up....
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:00 PM MDT reply actions
at first base.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions
boo for the blosox
Aut Vincam Aut Periam
by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Boo!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Its looking like our
excellent bullpen will be getting some usage tonight
Okay, now he's just too low.
But at least DLR’s pitch clusters look better than they did in the first.
Groundout to third
about time.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:08 PM MDT reply actions
the one on Gameday?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions
nah
the one on FSN Rocky Mountain
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by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions
Hello? Offense?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:14 PM MDT reply actions
DLR is bad.
that is all.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:18 PM MDT reply actions
Next pitcher, please!
I can talk myself into Glendon Rusch, I guess
Interesting stat on Spilly
Here are some batting average splits for him this season:
As a pinch hitter: .471
As a starter: .255
Every day is a Holliday!
Strand
Lewis at third. It might be hard, but it can be done.
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K!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:21 PM MDT reply actions
A NO HITTER YOU SAY?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
a NO HITTER you say?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions
bah sac fly.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:23 PM MDT reply actions
DLR's dropped his ERA by nearly half a run this game.
That’s got to count for something.
No seriously, if he can get through three more innings with just another run or two given up, I think we’ve got to take that from a fifth starter. Just one walk, three hits after three, that’s not terrible. Terrible is our offense still, which can’t give him diddly.
Yorvit....
3-0, and he gets the green light. You give the green light to Torrealba, Clint? That man-crush has gone way too far.
hooray 1-2-3
god our offense blows.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:31 PM MDT reply actions
I think we'd be doing better against Cy Young
Considering he’s been dead for 53 years.
Every day is a Holliday!
I don't know... seems our offense has been dead for quite awhile too.
I’m just saying, does old dead beat fresh dead?
Nice play by Barmes.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:34 PM MDT reply actions
Jon Lester pitches a no hitter, promptly placed on the 15 day DL
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions
holy crap
no hitter.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:36 PM MDT up reply actions
AAA team...
So what does that make us?
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I suggest not watching ESPN
for the next 24 hours or so
No kidding
This is going to be disgusting…as if the usual Red Sox/Yankees/Cubs/Mets games constantly being shown isn’t bad enough.
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions
hey hey cmon noww
the stars pissed them off n unleashed the beast tonightt
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Who are you??
That’s not exactly the kind of thing you say on a Colorado sports board, regardless of which sport its for.
my teams are all over the place
thats just the teams i liked when i first started watching sports…no offense was meant towards the avs lol
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions
BOOM!!!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:40 PM MDT reply actions
Barmes!
Bringing it closer.
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NO GIANTS!
You can’t have a no hitter either!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:41 PM MDT reply actions
Here we go...offense rolling time.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:42 PM MDT reply actions
Yes, yes, yes
Another hit….Keep it rolling Todd
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions
NO NO Bad Todd!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions
They showed the overhead cam
and it looked like a clear strike to me
By the way
Spilly has the best entrance music
allllllllllllmost fair.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:48 PM MDT reply actions
damn!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 7:51 PM MDT reply actions
That was weird...
I still don’t know if it makes up for his last at bat. If he scores, that would be proper atonement.
bah offense continues to suck
RLISP!!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:10 PM MDT reply actions
Did anyone read this today:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=20689&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1
Stark’s chat about which league is better. Obviously as an NL guy I’m biased here. STark makes the good point that most of the young talent is in the NL. Although the Red Sox sure looked like they were a different class in the World Series last year.
My least favorite part:
“The NL has the Nationals, Giants and Padres. And the Rockies (17-27) are threatening to join that group”
Not the type of comment I usually expect to see from someone like Stark.
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I think the funniest part
is that all the people saying the AL is better are from either Boston or New York
ESPN....
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions
it was just a bad hawpe.
Aut Vincam Aut Periam
by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions
DP..DP...DP....
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:18 PM MDT reply actions
Grilli . . . Grilli . . . Grilli . . .
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Grilli....ahhhhh
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:19 PM MDT reply actions
Why do I see one of those Rockies commercials?
Grillin’ with Grilli?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:21 PM MDT reply actions
Please Grilli,
continue this trend.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions
that was some garbage bloop hit....
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:26 PM MDT reply actions
Run down!
HAHAHA!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:30 PM MDT reply actions
Good way to
end the inning.
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Excellent play from Bake
More than makes up for the boot
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Summer Vacation..
So I figured out where I want to go on my summer vacation this year. 6 games, 5 stadiums, 4 cities in 6 days. If only I can figure out a way to talk my wife into letting me go.
August 15, Washington DC – Rockies against the Nats
August 16, Washington DC – Rockies against the Nats
August 17, NYC – KC at the Evil Empire in the final season of Ruth’s House.
August 18, Baltimore – BooSox vs Orioles in Camden
August 19, NYC – Atlanta at Shea
August 20, Philly – Nats at the smallest ballpark east of the Ohio River (Chase Utley Bobblehead day)
There's only one Rocktober!!
If your wife knows baseball
She’ll protest about seeing the Nationals 3 times.
Although they did beat the Phils tonight.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Without looking at schedules
wouldn’t it make more sense to go dc-bmore-philly-nyc, instead of having to up to the city, back to baltimore, then back to nyc, then back to philly? That’s a lot driving/train riding
DC and Yanks are home Fri, Sat, Sun...
Then Balt home Mon, Tue, Wed and
Mets and Philly home Tue, Wed
Why? I heard that driving through NYC is piece of cake.
There's only one Rocktober!!
Seriously
you should see the yanks on Friday, then see the rockies in DC on sat/sun, then Baltimore on monday, Philly on Tuesday, and Mets on Wednesday.
That is collectible coin night...
I would love to take a tour of Yankee Stadium, not because I like them or anything, but just because of the history there. Mickey Mantle is one of my favorite all-time players.
There's only one Rocktober!!
Double for Matty!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:34 PM MDT reply actions
Atkins!!
RBI!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:35 PM MDT reply actions
Atkins!
Please, can’t lose to teh Giants.
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Just curious Russ...
Have you been reading Battle of the Bulge books lately?
There's only one Rocktober!!
No,
right now I’m going through my Civil War reading list.
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Ok, you have Hawpe on the bench, why wouldn't you hit him here?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:41 PM MDT reply actions
Because Spilly is good enough
that he doesn’t warrant being pinch hit for.
Plus, Brad could be useful when the pitcher’s spot comes up.
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
I was thinking the R/L thing, but allright.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Ball four.
Color me Hurdle.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:45 PM MDT reply actions
Although
that could have been strike three…very close.
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions
damn!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:47 PM MDT reply actions
YORVIT!!!!
Accomplishes something!!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:47 PM MDT reply actions
maybe that's why
he’s “the starter”?
Aut Vincam Aut Periam
by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Way to run through the stop sign Spilly!!!
Yorvit, stay on first dammit!!
There's only one Rocktober!!
To hell with this
IM GOING TO SCORE
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Amazing
Love the hit by Yorvy, puzzled by his rounding of second…but I’ll take it. Time for a stingy bullpen.
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Inexplicable baserunning blunder...maybe he was just giddy.
But a huge hit nonetheless.
Wooo!
Leading in the game!
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Bullpen tonight is ... ?
Buchholz too tired?
Corpas?
Herges?
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Herges pitched two innings, two nights ago..
Bucky pitched two innings yesterday. I wonder if Hurdle feels more comfortable with those two pitching two innings in a row instead of splitting them up.
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Baseball Tonight
update on the Rockies: “I believe there was a Yorvit Torrealba siting.”
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Herges
don’t give the lead back please.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:55 PM MDT reply actions
isn't
GC Grilli in line for the W?
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by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
What is up
with the broken bat specials tonight???? Geeeeeeeeeezzzzzz
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It's the maple
Someone should be keeping stats on shattered bats this year. There have been lots.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Broken bats
I heard today that they discussed that very topic at the owners meetings a couple weeks ago. No idea what the discussion entailed, but it was because of the large number of them this season.
Swing and a miss!
GOT HIM!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 8:59 PM MDT reply actions
That's my Herge!!!!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
Willy T needs to sac
But, strangely for a guy who gets a lot of bunt base hits, he’s always had trouble getting down the sac bunt.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
umm..
there is no one else on base.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Never mind
Misread Gamecast as Q reaching base.
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Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Bucholz will pitch the 8th.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:05 PM MDT reply actions
Taveras' defense has improved considerably...
but his offense is abysmal.
Barmes with a bloop hit!
I think this guy is for real.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:07 PM MDT reply actions
Nah, he just better be back at 2nd.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
Q becomes utility guy.
AAA and AA teams become loaded with 2B’s.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Best hitter on the team right now
The “who should play short” question is solved for now.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
You know,
I could be ok with that.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
almost.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Same range...
But Tulo has the better arm, which makes him better suited for 3B. Actually O’Dowd mentioned this move a couple days ago.
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They don't have the same range.
Not even close. You have to consider arm as a tool of range. Getting to balls is half the battle, you have to convert those to outs, and Tulo can do that as good as anyone.
Barmes' defense is overinflated here
Barmes does an excellent job of making routine plays. Barmes does not make tough plays. His RZR would place him in the bottom half of shortstops, but close to average overall. Tulo’s RZR and OOZ (out of zone) plays are off the charts, and his RZR would still be in the elite class of shortstops.
Which year are you looking at?
Because his 2006 was pretty amazing from what I remember. He’s been moved around since then.
There's only one Rocktober!!
All years
Barmes best trait at short is that he doesn’t make bad mistakes. His throwing mechanics tend to make every play look like he was on the move, rather than stationary, and he shades himself more up the middle to take away hits up there. He probably does this too because he does not make the play in the hole that often. While that’s only one part of the defensive responsibilities, it’s a fairly significant one.
For years numbers have indicated that Barmes is a solid average shortstop, this year isn’t much different. That isn’t at all bad, but people look at error numbers and just think they mean something…they don’t.
Take the best defensive shortstop in the game
and move him to third? I don’t think so…
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by SC Memphis Raines on May 19, 2008 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
And Wimberly's htting .328 in AA at the moment
Decisions, decisions
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Come on Bucky!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:15 PM MDT reply actions
There ya go!!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Q got bruised or spiked or something.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:17 PM MDT reply actions
Nice work from Q
Takin’ one for the team
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Q able to continue
after a nasty fall to complete the DP.
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Q's a gamer
He deserves a shot at a fulltime job somewhere.
He’s got to have trade value after Tulo gets back.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Bucky!!
you are the man, sir!
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by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:19 PM MDT reply actions
Peavy missed the start & may go on DL
That’s how that happened.
Cards get another break.
R. Ludwick hits HR #12.
Sometimes it’s just your year.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
He's really matured as a pitcher
Much more consistent than before.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
I think it's the facial hair..
It’s really filled in over the past two years.
There's only one Rocktober!!
worked for Spilly!
Aut Vincam Aut Periam
by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not fond of the beard
but my daugher still wants to marry him.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Taylor, not Spilly
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
LOL
Actually, I’d be happy for my daughter to marry either one. Think of all the good tickets. But then, I don’t have a daughter….
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
Mine's still a teenager
Want to rent one?
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Anyone else just notice that?
Henshaw clearly had his pitching grip on the baseball before it was in his glove?
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:30 PM MDT reply actions
Bad Todd!
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:30 PM MDT reply actions
Helton must walk to the ballpark every night....
because his numbers are so “pedestrian”.
Well I guess its either Pods or Hawpe here
and Hawpe has been ugly of late
Pods :-(
Curve, Curve, Curve, Fastball down and in.
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:35 PM MDT reply actions
Bottom of the Giants order
That’s what you call a save opportunity.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Hope you're right.
But Fuentes can’t put batters away this year
bah base hit.
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:41 PM MDT reply actions
they Vizquel swing?
Bochy is a fool
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:42 PM MDT reply actions
**They let
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
DP time, Tito
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
Picked off!!!!
HAHAHAHA!
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:43 PM MDT reply actions
Giant baseball
at it’s finest
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Happy Birthday to me!
Happy birthday to me!
It’s a win by the Rockies,
Happy Birthday to me!
The Rockhead has broken the PR Birthday curese. Your turn tomorrow, Rox Girl!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~ Earl Wilson
SWING AND A MISS!!!
This one is a Rockies winner!!
3 in a row!
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:45 PM MDT reply actions
Rockies win!
Rockies win!
"Nuts!" - Gen. Anthony McAuliffe
Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!
only single digits below .500
is this really something I should be happy about?
Aut Vincam Aut Periam
by PioneerSkies on May 19, 2008 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I think we were in this spot at this exact time, one year ago.
Our rotation consists of Aaron Cook,.....umm....and......um.....yeah.
by The Lodo Magic Man on May 19, 2008 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
yep lets have a repeat
of last years 18-27
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 19, 2008 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
STREAK
Booggetty, Boogetty….OH Yes they call it a streak!
And only 9 more and we will be at .500….that right…we win out the month of May….and we still won’t be at ..500
But I’ll enjoy a streak of 3!
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did I miss count
the number of days left? DOH
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Woo!
9 games under .500 is better than 10! I guess!
Seriously, if we can keep this up and have no more 6-7 game losing streaks, I am hopeful.
Gas Can with the W
and he gave up a run (credited to De La Rosa)...but he gets the win
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Unearned run
so I wasn’t even going to call him “Gas Grilli”, which I think works better than Gas Can when he’s being charred.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
actually
Gas Can hasn’t really been a Gas Can for us….he’s an ok middle reliever…..makes me nervous as hell, but don’t most middle relievers?
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Signs of life
1. Barmes is heating it up like Tulo did last year.
2. Buchholz is solidifying the bullpen.
3. De la Rosa and Reynolds may provide 2 desperately-needed starters. That’s how you avoid losing streaks … not depending on 1 guy to stop them
Things are looking up.
There is a bright side to the '08 season.
Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens are out of baseball.
Plus Francis got his first win yesterday...
Hirsch is getting healthy and so is the Viz, well at least I think that’s a good sign.
There's only one Rocktober!!
I'd love
a little more consistency from our offense…....
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We have to average more than.....
4.x runs per game at home to keep winning. I’m still bugged that Helton is batting in the middle of the order, with a lefty starter no less!
Say Good Night Dick
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"Good Night Dick"
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Just got home
When we were driving past the airport, I saw Coors with all its lights on, and it made me so happy. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to make my first game until June 6 against the Brewers. Too long! It will have been 10 months since I went to a game, and it won’t feel like summer until I get there. Can’t wait.
We're all going to die!
Errr from the airport
home on I-70. Since Coors, after all, isn’t exactly close to DIA.
We're all going to die!
by Silverblood on May 19, 2008 10:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Was at the game
great night for a ballgame.
not much to add from what most likely was posted here, so I’ll just make a couple of points:
- de la rosa did what a 5th starter is supposed to do—keep you in the game. He’s actually pretty good when he gets ahead of hitters. he threw some center-cut stuff that got drilled when he fell behind.
- man, the Giants have a no-name bullpen. they kept bringing guys out, my son kept asking me “is this guy any good?” and all I could say was “i have no idea”.
- It’s always a joy to watch Omar Vizquel play shortstop.























