Game #34: Lohse vs de la Rosa
St. Louis @ Colorado
This is an interesting match-up to me. As our season's gotten off to a disastrous start, you've probably noticed the increased commentary that the Rockies should have spent money in the off-season on a higher quality pitcher than Wells/Towers/Redman. Lohse -him of the 66-75 career record and 4.79 ERA- and Carlos Silva were thought by many baseball observers to be the best widely available domestic option out of a severely flawed lot. Apparently that wasn't the case, as teams shied away from him and agent Scott Boras. Lohse didn't sign his one year, $4.25 million contract with the Cardinals until March 13, just two weeks before the Rockies decided to not eat the contracts of either Wells or Redman -who combined make just $150,000 less than Lohse this season- instead trading reliever Ramon Ramirez to the Royals for what turned out to be de la Rosa.
Now, I'm fine with signing players like Redman and Wells, I said as much in the offseason, and I'll say it again next winter that pitching depth never hurts and is usually needed, but there's a catch. I'm only okay with it if the team is willing and able to bail out quickly and decisively when necessary. It's clear now that Wells' contract is for far too much money to make this possible at all with him. Apparently Redman's contract is a bit easier to swallow, so we're starting a revolving AAA door in his place. Of course, the team wasn't really expecting Redman to be starting at this point heading into camp. Instead that distinction goes to the better paid and injured Wells, who flamed out with the Cards last season, and who the Rockies probably could have waited for a better deal with and in fairness, his pitching with the Rox thus far has been very solid and it's only the injury that hurts. Lohse, meanwhile, despite not signing until March 13, has gone 3-1 with the Cards thus far this season.
You know what would be great this afternoon? If somehow the table got reversed a bit. If all of the sudden that it was Cardinals fans who wished they had a guy like Ramirez to trade away in March for a stud young pitcher who just needed a change of scenery and that they hadn't waited to the last minute to fill out their rotation. Anyway, Lohse has four career starts against the Rockies, including one against Wells in our official opening game on April Fool's Day, and in not one of those starts has he given up more than three runs. Let's change that this afternoon.
Go Rockies!
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We did get 4 on him from one swing,,,
in the playoffs though haha (even though only 1 of them was his)
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 8, 2008 12:05 PM MDT 0 recs
Unfortunately
the player responsible for that is now an Astro.
by Tom (RFTN) on
May 8, 2008 12:51 PM MDT
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De La Rosa
Hoping he can be a just a biiiit more effective today. I missed his debut, but the statline suggests that I might have fared just as well throwing nothing but eephus pitches up there…
by Teekalong on May 8, 2008 12:25 PM MDT 0 recs
I like the lineup,
Lefty heavy helped us in the NLDS, hopefully it helps us today. Iannetta’s even starting the day after a night game. You can say this much, once Hurdle’s in on something, he’s in all the way.
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 12:30 PM MDT 0 recs
I'm shocked...
and stoked that CI is starting. I’m not a Yorvit hater, but I love that production is getting rewarded.
by Teekalong on
May 8, 2008 12:33 PM MDT
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I guess the only lefty heavy part of it is Pods
It’s actually Hurdle going with his best hitters in 2008 so far. Spilly over Hawpe, Pods over Willy T, Iannetta over Yorvit and Q over Herrera.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 12:40 PM MDT
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Dont forget
Jeff Baker. Hurdle certainly has. Baker hasn’t hit, but hasn’t played regularly either. and if he’s not going to play I would rather the Rockies DFA and bring up a left handed PH type for the bench.
2nd base....anyone? Who hasn't played there yet? Holliday @ 2nd...Spillbourghs in LF
by Redhawk on
May 8, 2008 12:42 PM MDT
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I've been meaning to bring this up.
Really, Baker hasn’t hit since his late season 2006 run after his call-up. And not hitting is sort of an understatement, as he’s been pretty terrible with the bat. I think this is where the team needs to bring in Stewart and just find AB’s for him and it will actually help both out in the long run. Stew will get a better feel for MLB pitching, and the team will actually have a full complement of bench players rather than the eleven and a half sort of thing they have going right now.
Jeff’s hit his way out of any trade value, so the DFA would be our only option, but I think we really need to go that direction at this point. At the very least call up Smith, I guess, but Ian would help the team more, and I really don’t think he needs much more if any development time in AAA.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 12:51 PM MDT
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I was thinking Smith
but Stewart getting exposure and with out any pressure, might be a good idea. I know it will be hard to get regular at bats, and PH is different than playing everyday, but it might work.
I was actually hoping the Rockies would go for Greg Norton when the Mariners DFA’d him last week (traded to the Braves) as a bench PH (Norton still make his home here in the Denver area)
2nd base....anyone? Who hasn't played there yet? Holliday @ 2nd...Spillbourghs in LF
by Redhawk on
May 8, 2008 12:56 PM MDT
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Yay! Iannetta is starting again!
And in a daygame after a night game… amazing.
I’ll be working on a paper during the game, but luckily I get to watch this one on a giant flat-screen TV instead of the normal laptop screen.
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 12:40 PM MDT 0 recs
I was going to go to the game
then saw all the rain….and it’s just a little cool to sit out side. Might as well save a couple bucks, and try to get some work done.
2nd base....anyone? Who hasn't played there yet? Holliday @ 2nd...Spillbourghs in LF
by Redhawk on May 8, 2008 12:43 PM MDT 0 recs
Weather
looking out the office window, it looks pretty awful up here in noco. Jeff said it is dry down there.
I wonder if iannetta just going to start untill his hot streak runs out or if he is the everyday catcher now ?
by ColoroxWS07 on May 8, 2008 12:56 PM MDT 0 recs
Radar
shows a line that went through down town…..but there are scattered showers around Boulder and to the west, that could waltz into the game.
It rained hard here in Parker, but is clear out here at the moment.
2nd base....anyone? Who hasn't played there yet? Holliday @ 2nd...Spillbourghs in LF
by Redhawk on
May 8, 2008 12:57 PM MDT
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Might be able to
catch the end of this game, but right now I have . . . more important thing to do?
"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence
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by Russ on May 8, 2008 1:00 PM MDT 0 recs
We've switched
The Rockies’ starting pitcher with an effective starter. Let’s see how long it takes for them to notice.
Nice first from De La Rosa.
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:08 PM MDT 0 recs
Something's not right here
I’m not tasting the usual bitterness I get from my normal starting pitchers.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:10 PM MDT
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first for DLR! He looks a lot more relaxed then last game.
2nd base....anyone? Who hasn't played there yet? Holliday @ 2nd...Spillbourghs in LF
by Redhawk on May 8, 2008 1:08 PM MDT 0 recs
Wow
I look up from writing, and DLR has retired the first three batters? What the hell just happened?
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 1:10 PM MDT 0 recs
yea i had to scrub my eyes
and make sure i was awake
by TuLoRocks2008 on
May 8, 2008 1:11 PM MDT
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Seven pitches, six strikes, three for groundball outs.
I can definitely live with that.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:12 PM MDT
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Odd
Looked like a homer for Helton, but it’s a double.
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 1:13 PM MDT 0 recs
Helton
SMOKED that ball.
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:14 PM MDT 0 recs
Upon 5 viewings
looks like an impossible bounce, but the right call. Bizarre. Need a hit from GA to square us for that one…
by Teekalong on
May 8, 2008 1:16 PM MDT
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Yeah, it should be two to nothing...
But I’ll leave the whining about missed calls to other teams fans. Not bringing up anybody in particular.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:16 PM MDT
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I'll trade 3 missed hr calls
for what went down in game 163 last year
by moomacher on
May 8, 2008 1:17 PM MDT
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Wow
What is the ruling on that? Looks like it could go either way.
by Teekalong on May 8, 2008 1:15 PM MDT 0 recs
This is where
we need to put up a crooked number. Too many innings like this so far this season have ended without bringing these guys around.
by Teekalong on May 8, 2008 1:18 PM MDT 0 recs
Spilly
What the hell is that thing on your face? The full beard was better.
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 1:19 PM MDT 0 recs
As long as it's working, he can keep it.
That facial hair has hit pretty well for us so far.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:21 PM MDT
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Lohse all over the place with his fastball
But that was a nasty slider he threw for strike one, to Chris.
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:22 PM MDT 0 recs
CI!
Coming through!
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:22 PM MDT 0 recs
THAT
Is the way its done. Take the outside pitch the other way, just hit it hard. Man. Great to see.
by Teekalong on
May 8, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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I love Iannetta!
Thank you Clint for playing him again, thank you thank you thank you.
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:23 PM MDT 0 recs
BOOM
all unearned, but still good to see. This is the kind of stuff they were ALWAYS doing down the stretch last year. Fun to watch.
by potterhead4 on May 8, 2008 1:23 PM MDT 0 recs
Lohse's ERA isn't taking the hit it should be.
Such a stupid rule that makes a stupid stat that messes up pitcher evaluations so often.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:25 PM MDT
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thankfully,
I hate it when pitchers get rewarded for throwing poorly.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:41 PM MDT
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Same place
A few feet to the right, base hit for Barmes, another run.
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 1:23 PM MDT 0 recs
Barmes
Made that one fair. Works for me.
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:23 PM MDT 0 recs
cmon de la rosa help urself
going to need alot of run support
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 8, 2008 1:25 PM MDT 0 recs
Whats this?
the rox got a lead after teh first inning? not possible. Enjoyable to watch offensive production every once and a while
by ColoroxWS07 on May 8, 2008 1:26 PM MDT 0 recs
Error to hit
all runs were earned. That a boy dave platti ( offical scorer, and CU Sports information director) good call to change the call
by ColoroxWS07 on May 8, 2008 1:27 PM MDT 0 recs
Jorge
please let’s not give them back.
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:28 PM MDT 0 recs
im really glad we dont have to see this team
anymore this season after today….esp ludwick
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 8, 2008 1:30 PM MDT 0 recs
The Cardinals' announcers
are referring to Spilly as “Zorro.”
by Tom (RFTN) on May 8, 2008 1:31 PM MDT 0 recs
Crap
I thought this game started at 3:30. Looks like I missed some good stuff.
by dogs on May 8, 2008 1:32 PM MDT 0 recs
Dodgers?
De La Rosa doesn’t look that bad out here, one pitch notwithstanding. What was his problem against LA?
by Teekalong on May 8, 2008 1:34 PM MDT 0 recs
Maybe just jitters,
He had been moved around a lot and asked to come in quickly as our starter to save us that day. He definitely seems to be settling into a groove here. I love how quickly he works.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:37 PM MDT
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Nice recovery, D.
Now we have a pitcher who didn’t let one mistake get to him? What could possibly be next?
by potterhead4 on May 8, 2008 1:35 PM MDT 0 recs
OT for a game thread
But I’m really excited to see the debut of Greg “Obi-Wan Kenobi” Reynolds on Sunday.
Every day is a Holliday!
by free7694 on May 8, 2008 1:38 PM MDT 0 recs
Me too,
If DLR can pitch like this even half the time and if Reynolds is as sharp as he’s been lately, we should be in good shape going forward until Hirsh comes back.
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:40 PM MDT
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A second two out rally would be nice here,
Todd, are you up for that?
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:38 PM MDT 0 recs
Way to finish off Lohse,
when it went to seven pitches against the opposing pitcher, I had flashbacks of U-ball’s start
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:44 PM MDT 0 recs
Nice
Coming back from 3 and 0 to get the K.
I like our new blend.
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on May 8, 2008 1:47 PM MDT 0 recs
Smooth and balanced,
pleasant aroma. This has to be a gourmet blend, right?
by Rox Girl on
May 8, 2008 1:51 PM MDT
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Spanish, I think
;)
I've been in this game a hundred years, but I see new ways to lose I never knew existed before. - Casey Stengel
by Behrens on
May 8, 2008 1:55 PM MDT
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I think six of his nine outs have been off the changeup,
He’s definitely using that a lot more than he did against LA. Nice game being called by Iannetta so far.
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:48 PM MDT 0 recs
bottom of the line up
finally doing something. Wondering if it has anything to do with Torreabla not playing anymore. Nah couldn’t be that!
by holliday5 on May 8, 2008 1:58 PM MDT 0 recs
Ump's got a tight zone,
Lohse is having a harder time getting inside of it than DLR so far. Come on, let’s just get Atkins home, DLR.
by Rox Girl on May 8, 2008 1:59 PM MDT 0 recs
NO DP NO DP NO DP NO DP
Please no dp, please please please. Hit it in the air.
by potterhead4 on May 8, 2008 1:59 PM MDT 0 recs

