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The NL Needs the DH

A number of current MLB controversies have made it clear that the game is moving forward into a new era. One fan tries to find the best balance between past and present.

From http://www.splicetoday.com/sports/the-nl-needs-the-dh

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Baseball is an exhilarating yet frustrating mess of contradictions, and this fan is caught in the trap—like millions of other men and women (save George Will, whose pompous moral certitude about the sport is immutable)—of trying to reconcile “purist” instincts with the undeniable improvements in the game over the past several decades. Last weekend, for example, while watching a slew of inter-league contests via the MLB “Extra Innings” package (which, regardless of varying prices depending on your locale and cable provider, costs less for an entire season of televised games than one day at a stadium for a family of four), I finally switched gears and figured it was time for the National League to acquiesce and adopt the still-controversial designated hitter rule.

Heresy, I guess, but what the hell; if you’re a Milwaukee Brewers’ devotee, wouldn’t it be delightful to see the world’s tubbiest vegetarian, Prince Fielder, in the dugout, contemplating his next plate appearance, instead of anchored at first base? One league’s dominance over the other usually runs in cycles, but the N.L. seems mired in a slump that’s likely to run longer than the Great Depression, and this was evident once again over the weekend. Sure, the strategy required of an N.L. manager is more intricate than A.L. counterparts with double-switches and more sacrifice bunts, but the two leagues might be more competitive if older free agents (or crummy fielders) could extend their careers as a DH.

That said, and here’s one of those curveballs, I can’t stand inter-league play, even though it pumps up attendance and allows fans to see star players who were once a mystery aside from the All-Star game (which, of course, has devolved into a meaningless exhibition game instead of a proud showcase) or the World Series. My 13-year-old son, with whom I have the pleasure of sitting next to in our matching easy chairs in the homestead’s television room, adamantly disagrees, but I chalk that up to his participation in a fantasy league with a bunch of school buddies. I just don’t like the disruption of the season’s rhythm, the fake “rivalries” cooked up by MLB schedule makers—sure, the Cubs and White Sox make sense, but the Rockies and Tigers?—for the sake of novelty and profit.

See the rest at http://www.splicetoday.com/sports/the-nl-needs-the-dh

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Ugh

Or find a way to appease the union and get the damn thing phased out of the AL.

by kosmo99 on Jun 30, 2008 12:23 PM MDT   0 recs

Expand the Major League Rosters

from 25 to 26 players, would be all it would take to appease the union and get the DH dumped league wide.

Colorado Rockies: Continuing a long tradition of playing meaningless games in June!

by Redhawk on Jun 30, 2008 1:47 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Rosters

That probably wouldn’t be enough. The AL teams would essentially be replacing a DH salary with 2 marginal MLBer salary – maybe replacing a 7-8M player with two 400K players.

Maybe adding something similar to the NFL’s performance based pay system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL%27s_performance-based_pay_program), with the following changes:

1) Instead of the amount being roughly 500K per team, have the amount be the total salary earned by the 14 primary DHs in 2008. You’d probably need some negotiations between the union and MLB to define who the “primary DHs” are, but you could eventually come up with a number.

2) Increase this amount to coincide with the annual increase/decrease in average salary.

Let’s say the 14 DHs make a total of 100M. Each team would then get 3.3M (100M/30 teams) for performance bonuses that would be divvied out based on some formula. VORP, for example. MLB would probably use the Elias rankings, though.

The union members would still be getting the same aggregate payroll, since the DHs salary has been funneled into the bonus program. The fans are happy because we don’t have the damn DH. And the pre arbitration/free agent guys are happy because they get a nice check for their performances. Maybe a guy like Josh Hamilton gets a 1M check at the end of the season.

by kosmo99 on Jun 30, 2008 2:07 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That might work

but there are other issues for baseball to address before this one.
Like Profit sharing, Salary Caps, end or limiting guaranteed contracts, Set bonuses for amateur draft signees, etc.

Colorado Rockies: Continuing a long tradition of playing meaningless games in June!

by Redhawk on Jun 30, 2008 3:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Issues

- Profit sharing already exists

- The luxury tax is in place. Not a hard cap, but a punitive system

- MLB is attempting to set bonuses via slotting (i.e. “suggestions”)

Personally, I’m opposed to all of these concepts in favor of the free market. Well, I’m probably in favor of changes to guaranteed contracts.

by kosmo99 on Jun 30, 2008 3:59 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

huh?

1) there is no profit sharing. The money the Yankees make, stays with the Yankees.
2) Luxury tax has only one team paying (the Yankees) and with their new stadium on board next year, they will be exempt from paying that

Unless those are in passed there will continue to be a league within the league for the rich, large market teams, and then the rest.

Colorado Rockies: Continuing a long tradition of playing meaningless games in June!

by Redhawk on Jun 30, 2008 7:19 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

???

1) Yes, there is revenue sharing. It has been in place for several years. I have no idea why you think that it doesn’t exist – it gets mentioned quite a bit in the media. The typical story is that the large market teams are very upset that the small market teams pocket the money instead of using the revenue sharing money toward payroll.

The following article mentions that $323M was given to small market teams from large market teams in 2006 (I couldn’t immediately find a figure for 2007). You can find countless other articles about MLB revenue sharing if you Google.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2516493

2a) The Red Sox and Angles also paid the luxury tax last year http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20061223/ai_n17071991

2b) It sounds like the Yankees will only be exempt from the luxury tax in 2009 and will begin paying the tax again in 2010 (although it sounds like deductions are allowed for the stadium costs). If you have detailed information about this, please post a link. I’m definitely interested.

2c) The small market Devil Rays, Marlins, A’s, and Twins seems to be doing OK in comparison to the Yankees.

by kosmo99 on Jul 1, 2008 7:30 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

2a correction

Diregard the link in 2a – it is out of date. The Yankees and Red Sox (but not the Angels) paid the luxury tax in 2007, the 4th straight year that the Sox were also paying the tax.

Here’s a better link.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3168051

by kosmo99 on Jul 1, 2008 7:34 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Revenue Sharing

is in place, but it’s really a drop in the bucket when compared to the NFL, that shares almost every penny (only stadium revenue, such as tickets and concessions aren’t shared) in conjunction with a hard salary cap gives a true equal footing. Baseball, still has a 2 tiered system of the haves and have-nots. A baseball team with an average payroll in the mid $70 million a year, has a hard time to compete against the Yankees and Red Sox payroll of $200 million.

Colorado Rockies: Continuing a long tradition of playing meaningless games in June!

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely not.

I will cease to be a baseball fan if the NL adopts the DH.

by Hizilla on Jun 30, 2008 1:17 PM MDT   0 recs

Nooooo

I hate the DL with a passion. Takes a ton of strategy out of the game. Forces teams to be more tactical at the bottom of their lineups.

Current AL dominance is a cyclical thing, me thinks.

The 2008 Rockies: All loses, all season

by moomacher on Jun 30, 2008 6:07 PM MDT   0 recs

You know...

I hate the Disabled List too, but I think it’s just one of those things that we unfortunately have to live with ;) .

by oo_nrb on Jul 1, 2008 12:15 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't really express my views on the DH here.

Let’s just say it’s one of George Carlin’s Seven Dirty Words followed by “the DH.” I’m pretty sure you can figure out which one of the seven it is.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 30, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

My thoughts on the DH are as follows:
Or find a way to appease the union and get the damn thing phased out of the AL.

I will cease to be a baseball fan if the NL adopts the DH.

I hate the DH with a passion. Takes a ton of strategy out of the game. Forces teams to be more tactical at the bottom of their lineups.

Let’s just say it’s one of George Carlin’s Seven Dirty Words followed by "the DH”.

What they said.

On that note, I think it’s time that I shared my list of Things Currently Ruining Baseball:
1) The DH
2) Interleague Play
3) The DH
4) Retractable roof stadiums in places that don’t need them
5) The ASG determining which league holds home-field advantage in the World Series
6) A bag of popcorn that costs nearly or over $4.00
7) Interleague Play
8) The DH

...I think that about covers it, though I do reserve the right to add more should I see fit :) .

by oo_nrb on Jul 1, 2008 12:15 AM MDT   0 recs

Bud

I think you forgot Bud Selig – an owner pretending to be a commish.

by kosmo99 on Jul 1, 2008 10:10 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I would add

The lack of a salary cap
6 dollar beers (and in San Diego’s case, 6 dollar 3.2 beer. HA!)
Fans not being able to cheer without the guidance of the Jumbotron.

Thank god for baseball season.

by jcd823 on Jul 1, 2008 10:27 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I would add

fans doing “the wave”

I miss baseball. Can we fire Clint Hurdle and Dan O'Dowd now?

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2008 10:32 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Quick thoughts on the DH

I like the DH in the AL and don’t want to see it eliminated… as long as it stays in the AL and leaves the NL alone. I enjoy the NL game more but I like the separation between the two leagues because of the DH rule which is unique in professional sports. It’s like each league has their own identity. It’s the same game but slightly different.

Heck, I’d like to see each league go back to having their own umpires, which would further separate them. Eliminate interleague play, too.

by roxhead on Jul 2, 2008 3:03 PM MDT   0 recs

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