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Draft Day Open Thread #2

Christian Friedrich and Charlie Blackmon so far, picks in rounds three through five still to come tonight.

Blackmon's an interesting tools pick to me. He's got to learn to hit in a hurry, but he has all the ability to be pretty decent player and could be a solid starting corner if all goes according to plan.

These next few picks are usually where Rockies scouts have done their best work. Let's look for this year's sleepers.

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Another Chris Carpenter gets taken

This one for the Cubs. I hope he doesn’t win any Cy Youngs like his namesake, mainly because I hate the Cubs.

We are all dead.

by Silverblood on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Maybe they just picked him for confusion's sake

They’re planning to switch Carp bodies with the Cardinals down the road.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Cubs take

Chris Carpenter. Carpenter’s an interesting guy even with his injury history.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Logan Schafer

That makes Schafer, Havens and Cashner as players the Rockies have previously drafted.

by malakian on Jun 5, 2008 5:17 PM MDT reply actions  

We really need to get more money to the draft department.

At least give our scouts some raises for finding these guys in the first place. Havens was on everybody’s map at the time, but we saw more than most with the rest.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mets take Kirk Nieuwenhuis

Who really needs a nickname if he doesn’t want to join “Eyechart” Mientkiewicz.

We are all dead.

by Silverblood on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Nieuwenhuis

Played summer ball in Fort Collins in 2006. I didn’t think he was that special. Must’ve gotten a lot better in a couple years.

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by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have an idea where Friedrich is going to start at?

Asheville or Modesto?

The 2008 Rockies: All loses, all season

by moomacher on Jun 5, 2008 5:19 PM MDT reply actions  

My guess is Asheville

Geographic proximity to his home, but it’s possible he could skip or at least just have a brief stay in Modesto next season.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Rockies

take Aaron Weatherford.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Reliever

62/10 K/BB in 31 2/3 IP.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

0.85 ERA

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jonathan Mayo likes the pick

Thinks Weatherford will move quickly.

by malakian on Jun 5, 2008 5:23 PM MDT reply actions  

A guy in the SEC

with numbers like that. I’d take him any day.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

me too.

I had him in the second round, I missed that he was still available.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

You know that old saying?

The one that goes – if you don’t like the weather in Denver, wait five minutes?

I suppose in a best case scenario, if opponents don’t like the Weather(ford) in Denver, they’re really not going to like the change in Weather(s) sure to come soon after.

Wow, that’s such a lame stretch – it sounded a lot better in my head.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 5:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Royals

draft Tim Melville.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Melville

They don’t have a shot in hell at signing him, but it’s a nice thought.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Giants

had to take Brandon Crawford. There goes my hope for him.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Now I have two reasons to hate him

Brandon Crawford has just become a mortal enemy.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Top 100 players still available:

Per John Manuel:
No. 25: Alex Meyer, rhp
No. 48: Daniel Webb, rhp
No. 49: Robbie Grossman, of
No. 51: Brett Hunter, rhp
No. 90 Eric Thames, of (Injured)

by malakian on Jun 5, 2008 5:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Another Coloradan

Anthony Capra off the board in the fourth to the A’s. Capra was a lefty stud at Arvada West – he knocked my team out of the district playoffs my senior year, and I will forever root against him for that reason.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 5:43 PM MDT reply actions  

A-West

My high school rival! I hated A-West. Still do, actually.

by holly96 on Jun 5, 2008 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

And another Coloradan to the Mets

Sean Ratliff was a major high school player a few years ago.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:53 PM MDT reply actions  

More Colorado connections

As Sean Ratliff goes to the Mets. Believe I played against his Niwot team in Legion ball.

And Jason Kipnis to San Diego – a good friend of mine from college played high school ball with him.

Hey, I don’t claim to be an expert – I have to trumpet personal connections at this point because it’s all I’ve got.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 5:54 PM MDT reply actions  

The Rockies

select Philip Hollingsworth.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 5:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Rockies fourth pick:

Philip Hollingsworth, RHP, Western Michigan

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by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 5:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Our last two picks don't have much projection

Our second rounder does, but he’s also near his physical peak. The Rockies have really shied away from unfinished bodies so far.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 5:59 PM MDT reply actions  

Hmm

Four rounds, and no HS or JC players. That might be a franchise first.

by malakian on Jun 5, 2008 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hollingsworth

From a quick look at the videotape – I like him mechanically but I’m not blown away by his stuff. 88-90 with the fastball, 76-78 with the change and some late tail, 83 on a sweeping slider. Fastball has a little run when he gets it down, and he’s not afraid to go inside with it. This strikes me as a Keith Weiser type of pick – a guy who knows how to pitch but is going to constantly be walking a fine line.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:02 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm not enthralled

Unless he has better GB capabilities than I’m seeing, he just seems like a guy who will eat up minor league innings until he reaches the point where good hitters feast on him. Alan Johnson’s close to that point right now, Brandon Hynick’s getting there too. This stuff will play up in the lower minors, but it’s not going to help the big league club.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sean Ratliff

Went to the Mets. I might get to see his career come full circle, from a 17-year-old prodigy to the beginning of his pro career.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:03 PM MDT reply actions  

That would be an interesting story,

Be sure to leave a link when he heads to Savannah and/if you write it.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I won't write it

But I’ll sure as hell design the page it goes on.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well that's almost as good...

I’m sure they’ll have a canon of page designs that everybody studies fifty years from now.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

We can dream

Perhaps I should have stayed the ‘sportswriter’ course…. Alas.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nick Romero of SDSU just got drafted by the Twins

My friend, who is the managing editor at the San Diego State Daily Aztec, says that Romero is absolutely as dumb as a post, but a great hitter.

We are all dead.

by Silverblood on Jun 5, 2008 6:14 PM MDT reply actions  

I know some posts

that would find that insulting.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Brewers pick

another Porn Name All-Star – Maverick Lasker.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Fantastic

Maverick Lasker? Does his signing bonus include a fluffer?

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can see The Colonel giggling now.

“Those are great names!”

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

This draft has to have the most in recent memory

The children of the Top Gun generation are obviously coming of age.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Side note

I know I completely ruined the movie for my dad last week when I was back home, but I’m going to do it for you all as well:

Can you think of a more homoerotic movie in mainstream cinema than the volleyball scene in Top Gun?

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I go to

Quentin Tarentino on this. See video (salty language).

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tarantino.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Rockies

select Louisville 3B Chris Dominguez.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM MDT reply actions  

The Rockies' fifth pick:

Christopher Dominguez, 3B, Louisville

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Chris Dominguez

3b, Louisville. There’s your upside selection.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Chris Dominguez

Another 3B. Scouting report mentions great potential, but inconsistent application. Doesn’t sound like anyone we know, right?

We are all dead.

by Silverblood on Jun 5, 2008 6:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Great

We drafted Ian Stewart again.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

What an awful thing to have taken a potential impact third baseman in the fifth round. Horrible, just horrible.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's unfair to both

Dominguez has considerably more contact issues, he isn’t a true third baseman and if he has a future in Denver it will be at first as Todd’s successor. He’s just a big guy that if we can somehow solve the pitch selection/contact issues will pay off in a big way, but he’s not another Ian Stewart.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think you're being fair to Dominguez now

He can play third, with a plus plus arm and decent athleticism for him massive frame. I would think he’s a better comparison to Troy Glaus if anything.

He may be a tough sign as a college sophomore, but I really want this guy in house. His hit for power tool is better than any player we currently have playing in the minors.

by David OhNo on Jun 5, 2008 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I really don't know.

I see it more as outfielder’s arm without an outfielder’s range. I could see him working in right field for most teams, but not the Rockies. I haven’t been impressed with his footwork at third and he doesn’t react well off the bat from what I’ve seen. He is a better defender than Atkins, maybe better than Holcomb, but I’m not sure if he’s more than average at the position. If I’m wrong and he is a Glaus-type, that would be a huge boon, but from what I’ve seen, I think he’ll be more like Ty Wigginton.

by Rox Girl on Jun 6, 2008 5:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

ugh... that's a bad comp...

I needed more coffee, sorry. I see him as a Wigginton type of defender at third, but with a stronger arm and much more power. I think maybe a better comp would actually be Jeff Francoeur, a right fielder with power, some contact issues and an absolute gun for an arm, and the two have similar body types. It actually seems to me like we finally have legit heir to Hawpe in right if he can extend his range a little bit.

by Rox Girl on Jun 6, 2008 6:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh and don't get me wrong,

I really want us to sign him too, and the power that he and Roling represent is something the system sorely lacks right now, I just don’t see him as a plus defender at third.

by Rox Girl on Jun 6, 2008 5:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn'tsayplus defender either

but I’d be in no hurry to movehim off the position. He’s still relatively young and raw in all facetsof the game. I’d like to see where he is after a few instructional leagues before moving him, asI think the footwork issues can be corrected.

by David OhNo on Jun 6, 2008 7:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Another round, or until 9 ET.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Another Colorado kid

Shane Dyer from Eaton goes to the Rays. I have nothing else to say about him that would be acceptable on here.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:30 PM MDT reply actions  

More on Dominguez

Kevin Goldstein at BP says Dominguez could be a tough sign because he’s a draft eligible sophomore with better talent than his draft slot suggests.

After watching the video – I see a 6’5”, 235-lb potential beast with legit power. If everything breaks right… hmm, let’s say best-case scenario has him as another Matt Holliday?

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:31 PM MDT reply actions  

In case you couldn't tell

I’m kinda high on this pick.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm high on it too,

It’s my second favorite pick of the draft besides Friedrich, but I reserve the right to stick Blackmon ahead once I see him in person.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Another CO connection

Shane Dyer. Former Rockies draft pick, played at Eaton. Covered several of his games through the years. Throws hard as hell, has that great Eaton knuckle-curve, and has a deceptive delivery.

He’ll be going to the Rays and I suspect he’s got a future in the bullpen.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:32 PM MDT reply actions  

My brother's first High School at-bat was against Dyer

It was the summer before his freshman year and before Dyer’s senior year in legion ball. Needless to say, he struck out.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't worry too much

I saw a lot of people strike out against him.

Story about Dyer, though:

His senior year, they play in the state title game against Roosevelt. He throws perhaps the best game of his season, striking out double digits, pretty sure he didn’t allow an earned run, just played his ass off. Sometime late in the game, 6th inning or so, a player makes an error. And then that same player follows that up with two errors on one play. Game essentially over right there, despite the fact that Dyer was the top pitcher in the state that season.

I’m interviewing him after the game. He’s surprisingly calm, I had been told he was going to be drafted right before I interviewed him, he knew it, and we focused on his future. At the end of the interview, he points to the player who made the errors and says, “It’s HIS fault. HE dropped the ball. Fucking print it.”

Needless to say, I didn’t print that quote. But I think that was a telling story about Dyer.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Still not a fan

My bro plays in the Patriot League. We don’t like Eaton.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think the anecdote was meant to make fans for him

It sounds like he’d be a great golfer, though. Maybe a bowler. Something that doesn’t involve teammates, anyway.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe

That fastball gets up to 94… Be difficult to imagine him doing anything other than throwing a baseball past human beings.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

So

You had to go against Ottoson, eh? Stud pitcher. Better than Dyer, I think. He’ll probably be drafted tomorrow, I’m guessing.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's been on a rival team

Every year since my brother was in 7th grade. I can’t talk about him anymore without using the F word.

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Ottoson

He’s actually a year younger than everyone else in his class. He was 14-years-old, mowing down a 5A team when I first covered him. He was 17 when he just finished off whoever the hell they beat in the title game.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've got a story about him

But it might get ol’ Danley in trouble with CHSAA.

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by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

You peaked my interest

Although I always found Danley to be incredibly nice.

Does Ottoson live outside Eaton?

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

All I know

Is that Ottoson played on a very good team out of Greeley in middle school, and the next summer most of that team showed up in Eaton Reds uniforms.

And I’ve always found Danley to be a whining jackass who complains about every call that goes against him.

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by free7694 on Jun 5, 2008 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I assumed all along he was recruiting

But Danley is a funny dude when you talk to him.

by rosenthal on Jun 5, 2008 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Whites Sox

draft Kenneth Williams a year after the Rockies did.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Six today.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Another Buchholz

Alexander Buchholz went to the Reds at #179. Is he related to either Clay or Taylor? If not, what the heck is going on with all these Buchholzes.

by holly96 on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM MDT reply actions  

No, but

Alex has a brother, Matt, playing of UMBC.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

playing for UMBC.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

My mistake.

Matt graduated last year.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

More Buchholzes? From different families?

I now know what to look for in a mate if I want to mother an MLB player someday. Great. The secret’s revealed.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll happily take

OUR Buchholz, leaving you to find another one. Neener neener.

We are all dead.

by Silverblood on Jun 5, 2008 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kiel Rolling, C , AZ St.

Woo! We took a Sun Devil!

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Top Comp: Matt LeCroy

Sweet.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Best suited an AL team . . ."

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey, LeCroy played in the NL...

and sure, it was an unmitigated disaster and he made Frank Robinson cry, but… hey, maybe in the future we’ll carry three catchers – Ianetta as the starter, McKenry as the defensive backup, and Rolling as the PH-emergency catcher.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

And let's not overlook

The local angle – Roling went to GJ Central.

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by Franchise26 on Jun 5, 2008 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I knew that name sounded familiar

That’s my high school! Of course I’m the old man around here, having graduated in 1994.

by Prospector on Jun 5, 2008 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

You are old!!

I graduated the next year from Montrose.

Somebody stole my Rocktober!!

by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2008 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

1996 for me (though not from GJ Central, of course--Pomona for me)

You’re only two years older than me. But it does seem like there are lots of 20-somethings around here.

by holly96 on Jun 5, 2008 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Rockies take

Ariz. St. C Kiel Roling

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2008 6:56 PM MDT reply actions  

"Rol"being the operative term.

As in how does he get to first? Or, what’s that under his shirt?

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2008 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Angels picked up a good JUCO player at 105

That’s too bad Ryan Chaffee wasn’t drafted by a National League team, he only went 3 for 3 in the World Series with a HR. To get his team into the tournament he threw a complete game shutout with 18k’s.

Somebody stole my Rocktober!!

by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2008 7:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Chipola Alum..

BTW The Dodgers catcher Russell Martin is from the same school as Chaffee.

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2008 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

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