Monday Morning Rockpile:

by Russ Oates on Aug 11, 2008 7:41 AM MDT in Rockpile Comment 12 comments

1-8. The Rockies have one win in nine games against the Snakes. There are nine games left between the two teams. That means, if the Rockies drop two of three in this coming series, there's going to be another SnakePit Day around these parts some time between the end of the season and the day pitchers and catchers report.

Or to put it another way, the Rockies need to win out against the D'Backs in order to have Purple Row Day over at the SnakePit. Strangers things have happened--I guess.

And does anyone remember what the original bet for the 2007 season between Rox Girl and Jim was? Take a look for yourselves here. Yeah, that's right. It involved current Rockie Livan Hernandez. You know, the guy who thinks the fans didn't see the real Livan yesterday. The guy who gets another chance on Saturday against his former team, the Nationals. At least he sounds sincere after his poor performance:

"I try my best," Hernandez said. "It's not happen the way I want. It's difficult. I got to move forward and help the team win. I know I no do good today. I'm sorry. I try my best."

Still, what will it take for the higher-ups to realize that even the best out of a pitcher or player just won't be good enough? We may never find out.

Note to Rox Girl: Stop making bets with Jim and the SnakePit.

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Yea Rockies

ok….so our latest pitcher seems to be defective….can’t we return him? It’s been less than 30 days, and I’m sure we have a receipt some where. Rox Girl….check your purse for that receipt.

I would suggest we start calling up players and giving them an extended look, but besides Fowler, there really is no position players to call up, and he’s in China. This actually bothers me that we don’t have lots of position players left. And in keeping with a minor league lack of depth theme…..we can’t spend $1.5 on Chris Dominguez, but we can spend $800,000 for Kip Wells to NOT pitch for the Rockies?

Morales, Hirsch, and Reynolds all should get as much time in AAA to work things out where they have better pitching coaches. Herges is done for the year, and should be released, but I guess he can hang around for the rest of the year. We got more out of him for longer than we should have. Rosters expand in 3 weeks anyway.

Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.

by Redhawk on Aug 11, 2008 9:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Amen, Brother!!

Bring up Mark Redman and Josh Towers now. What are we keeping these washed-up starters in the Springs for anyway if we aren’t going to give them their chance to suck for the Rockies?

by RockyMtnRedbird on Aug 11, 2008 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to see....

more of Jon Herrera. I liked what I saw in his earlier stint. Let’s move Q to some team that needs a utility guy and bring him up.

by BroJB on Aug 11, 2008 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know this was sarcasm

(which is hard to pick up on the internet)
but the main reason I don’t want to see Morales, Hirsch or Reynolds pitching for the Rockies right now…..is they do have issues, and Hurdle and Appocaca are the LAST people on earth, I want near a young struggling, possibly fragile pitcher.

As for Redman or Towers…why not? in fact, I say DL Cook and Jimenez…..lets really go for getting the number one pick next year.

Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.

by Redhawk on Aug 11, 2008 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you...

and will add-why bring in Livan Hernandez for 1.6 million when you could have used Towers or Redman or Smith-did they really think that Hernandez was a huge improvement over those two? And even if they did, is he really worth that kind of money? There is a reason the Twins cut him—he isn’t very good. Not only that, it will take a miracle to make the playoffs now and that money could have given the money to Dominguez or a Latin American prospect.

by DenverBears on Aug 11, 2008 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Add in Wells and Livan (who likes his money)

than the Rockies have spent 2.4 Million dollars on that last pitchers spot for the rest of the year. For a team not going to the playoffs, and for a washed up pitcher.

Granted when the Rockies made the deal for Livan, I thought they had an outside chance at a run. I never thought Thursday would have happened. AND I never thought the Rockies would give up more than the minimum waiver part of the salary. I also didn’t expect Hernandez to look as bad as he did. He really dropped off the table from the first of this year.

Now how much better off will the organization be in 2 years if they spent this money on Chris Dominguez and the remainder on a Latin American kid? This year is over, Redman, could get beat terribly just as well as Hernandez.

Thought Clint Hurdle should be fired before it was cool.

by Redhawk on Aug 11, 2008 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

In all seriousness...

I agree with Reynolds. I think he was rushed and thus needs to get minor leaguers out first. As for Morales and Hirsh, I think one could argue whether there’s more to be gained from failing against MLB players than AAA players. Hirsh hasn’t been terrible his last couple outings and Morales, just has had issues finding the strike zone (but then again, he may always). They’ve had some limited success at the MLB level, so I say let them try to find it back at the MLB level (assuming the Rox are no longer in the race, which I think most everyone would agree now that they aren’t).

I’m much more in favor of getting Koshansky playing time and possibly even Seth Smith. I think everyone would agree that Atkins will not be in the long-term plans, why not see if Koshansky can make Atkins expendable this winter. And maybe Seth Smith hits for a higher average with less streakiness than Hawpe. If Baker can play 3rd, 2nd and 1st and Barmes can play 2nd & SS, why do you need Quintanilla? Koshansky would sure add more off the bench, in addition to the aforementioned tryout for everyday 1B.

Oh, and let Speier and Register work some middle innings, instead of the Herges, Grillis and Vizcainos of the world.

by RockyMtnRedbird on Aug 11, 2008 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

JoKo and the rest

I definately agree on Register. I think it’s time to see what he can do. I’ve sort of soured on Speir (don’t know why exactly), but a last chance at the major leagues as a Rockie would also make sense there. I really like Q. I know we’re over-flowing with utility infielders, but I’d hate to see him just given away. I’d like to see them wait until the Winter there. To add to all that middle infield clutter, I’m also pretty intrigued with Herrera. Seems like we’ve become very adept at developing Jason Bates and Craig Counsell types again…. Which is no slight on the system seeing as how we’ve also developed the Tulo’s, Atkins, and Stewies to go with them. Finally JoKo….. I just don’t see him as a full-time 1B in the bigs. I could be wrong of course, but his swing just looks riddledwith holes. With that in mind, I wouldn’t take away AB’s from some of the other guys with the slim hope that he’s our answer at 1B should Helton not prove healthy. I’d send him to Winter Ball and deal him if somebody bites. Does Kansas City have any more left-handed relievers with huge arms and slim results that we haven’t tried?

by IowaRockie on Aug 11, 2008 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs