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Game #135: Hernandez vs. Lincecum

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Colorado Rockies @ San Francisco Giants


Pray.

Go Rockies!

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Livan Hernandez 1-2 3 3 0 0 0 0 12.1 25 21 21 3 5 5 15.32 2.43

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Tim Lincecum 14-3 27 26 0 0 0 0 177.2 144 54 49 9 67 200 2.48 1.19

Lineup

Colorado Rockies @ San Francisco Giants

08/27/08 8:15 PM MDT

Colorado Rockies San Francisco Giants
Clint Barmes - 2B Dave Roberts - LF
Willy Taveras - CF Fred Lewis - CF
Matt Holliday - LF Randy Winn - RF
Brad Hawpe - RF Bengie Molina - C
Garrett Atkins - 1B Pablo Sandoval - 3B
Ian Stewart - 3B Travis Ishikawa - 1B
Chris Iannetta - C Emmanuel Burriss - 2B
Troy Tulowitzki - SS Omar Vizquel - SS
Livan Hernandez - P Tim Lincecum - P

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unreal how bad

this season has been….but yet even more sad how bad this division is…Arizona and L A can’t hit to save there lifes…i can’t picture them in the playoffs….so maybe….juss maybe i might start to believe again if hernandez can beat lincecum…big IF

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 7:18 PM MDT   0 recs

Please continue win,

that’s all we can do at this point.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 7:46 PM MDT   0 recs

I believe in the Rox

I really do, no amount of online pessimism will convince me otherwise. Real life failure could convince me though

Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!

by MohrPlease on Aug 27, 2008 7:56 PM MDT   0 recs

Group Prayer?

Die-hard Rockies fan. On the bandwagon since 7/6/93. Not giving up my seat. EVER!

by rockiesfan4ever on Aug 27, 2008 8:00 PM MDT   0 recs

Oh lord, bless this season for those in purple

May the D-backs and Dodgers fall on their face.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:05 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen

A little late, but it’s better than never.

by onholliday on Aug 27, 2008 8:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

What the?!?

Hurdle going with the same line-up two nights in a row?

Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!

by MohrPlease on Aug 27, 2008 8:10 PM MDT   0 recs

i was really hoping he was going to

but in the back of my mind i was like….hurdle do that? haaa no way

finally proved me wrong

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:11 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Livan on a prayer...

Amen. Let’s do this Purple Row!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:10 PM MDT   0 recs

Livan.....

     I’m rooting for you. The whole season it would seem to rest upon you. I know you’re the kind of guy that won’t be intimidated by the pressure and who will dig deep and find another month of quality pitches in the waning years of your career. Invent them as you go if you have to. Just win tonight and solidify the bottom of our rotation….. Amen.

by IowaRockie on Aug 27, 2008 8:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

down go the dodgers again

lets go rockies!

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:10 PM MDT   0 recs

Allright guys, let's do this.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:15 PM MDT   0 recs

If the Rockies can beat Lincecum

with Livan fcking Hernandez on the mound, they truly are god’s team.

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:17 PM MDT   0 recs

Booo!

Come on offense…

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:17 PM MDT   0 recs

Gonna be seeing a lot of that this game

that being Barmes and Taveras striking out

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:17 PM MDT   0 recs

btw

    I like Wily t in the #2 hole. Just wish we had a legit lead-off guy (no offense Barmy) hitting ahead of him.

by IowaRockie on Aug 27, 2008 8:18 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Single for Matty.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:19 PM MDT   0 recs

Matty!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:19 PM MDT   0 recs

And that

Thanks Hurdle.

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:20 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineup fail

putting two automatic outs in front of your best hitters.

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

he knows nothing

Why are you against girls and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda

by pierzynskirules on Aug 27, 2008 8:24 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Fair!!

Double for Brad!

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:20 PM MDT   0 recs

Braddy!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:21 PM MDT   0 recs

Garrett?

You got it?

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:21 PM MDT   0 recs

Garrett! FAIL FAIL FAIL!!

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:22 PM MDT   0 recs

The Giants

are 7-2 when Ishikawa starts at 1st base. Useless info for the night.

"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on Aug 27, 2008 8:23 PM MDT   0 recs

Looking for the silver lining

20 pitches for Timmmmay. Maybe we’ll get him out by 6 innings?

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Aug 27, 2008 8:26 PM MDT   0 recs

Pending quote from Hurdle, regardless of win or loss:

“Livan knows how to pitch in SF”

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:26 PM MDT   0 recs

Wow, if Livan could ever pitch a good game

You’d think it would have to be against this god-forsaken SF lineup

by Roberbola on Aug 27, 2008 8:28 PM MDT   0 recs

San Francisco's lineup

is probably the worst offensive lineup I’ve seen in baseball this year

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:29 PM MDT   0 recs

Bengie Molina is hitting cleanup.

I can’t stress this enough.

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:29 PM MDT   0 recs

Barmes just saved your ASS, Livan.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:30 PM MDT   0 recs

Nothing like a throw

when you’re falling back and turning at the same time.

"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on Aug 27, 2008 8:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

It was a good effort by Livan

and another foot would have got him. The throw wasn’t bad, it was just it forced Clint to change momentum.

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, it looked alot worse than it was on TV.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:32 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Put it this way,

if Troy was covering on the play, it would have flowed with his momentum towards first, and Tulo wouldn’t have had to dive back. That’s nobody’s fault, it’s just what happened and now it’s moot.

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:33 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

livan on a prayer...oh oh livan on a prayer

Now let’s get some runs!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:32 PM MDT   0 recs

Lincicum

has never lost with 3 runs. Livan should be able to hold them to 3 or less right.

by DieHardRox on Aug 27, 2008 8:33 PM MDT   0 recs

cmon stewiee

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:34 PM MDT   0 recs

lets just make sure lincecum throws 20 pitches the next 4 innings...

then we have a very good shot

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:35 PM MDT   0 recs

Bah..

almost, Ian, almost.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:35 PM MDT   0 recs

Jusssssst a bit inside...

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:36 PM MDT   0 recs

HOMERUN!!!!

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 PM MDT   0 recs

Ahh....Double!

Almost, Chris.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I couldnt see it against the wall.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

CDI! So Dreamy!

Double!!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 PM MDT   0 recs

CDI! CDI!

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 PM MDT   0 recs

That was so close, Chris.

"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM MDT   0 recs

Tulo! RBI!

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM MDT   0 recs

cmon triple T

rbi single

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM MDT   0 recs

Tulo RBI!

But ump says he is out at 2nd.

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM MDT   0 recs

right on time wit that comment haha

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:38 PM MDT   0 recs

Tulo was safe.....

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

Bad call...

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

Still, beating up on Timmy anyway

Just a matter of time, at this rate.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

1-0,

but Tulo really wasn’t out. Oh, well. Lead’s a lead.

"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

Instant replay for tag plays

I’m sick of these horsesh*t calls

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:39 PM MDT   0 recs

Yeah, 4 on first trip through lineup

I’ll take a .444 batting average any night. 35 pitches through 2.

Would have been 40 without the bad call at 2nd.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Aug 27, 2008 8:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I will say

Livan’s curveball is dropping like crazy.

by onholliday on Aug 27, 2008 8:44 PM MDT   0 recs

Boy

haven’t actually watched one of these Livan starts yet. He really throws this slow?

Second half run?

by moomacher on Aug 27, 2008 8:44 PM MDT   0 recs

Trachsel-esque

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:45 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

My grandma throws harder than Livan.

Ok, maybe my grandma doesn’t throw harder than Livan, but my little brither sure does!

Every day is a Holliday!

by free7694 on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

i can't believe it either. And this is with SF's notorious 2-3mph speed boost

I don’t know how SF keeps missing those straight 81 mph whatever-the-f-it-is pitches. I guess we’re lucky they threw out the AAAA team for tonight’s game.

by Ghoulowitzki on Aug 27, 2008 8:48 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Stew consistently shows

one minor, correctable flaw, he has poor pitch recognition on the inner half. I think this is just something that will come with experience and dilligent cage work in the off-season. Too often he takes inside fastballs from right handers that end up riding back over the middle of the plate. Part of this, I believe, comes from some infamiliarities in his stance adjustment. He’s only started hitting from a straight on (not open) stance this year, so he hasn’t had as much experience with these fastballs from this viewpoint.

The good thing is that it isn’t a bat speed issue, where he can’t handle inside pitches, because he’s proven the opposite against lefties. He just needs to pick up the inside fastball a little better out of the hand.

I know there’s worry about Stew falling off a bit next year, and some things will have to dip, like BABIP. However, I think a corresponding drop in K rate will help counterbalance the BABIP dip. You can categorize Stew’s K’s in to three areas: A true swing and miss strike out, a caught looking on the inner half, and most recently, rookie strikezone punchouts. The first one is unavoidable. The second will be tempered by continual improvement in pitch recognition, and the thrid seems to dissipate as Stewart gains notoriety around the league (leveling his reputation against that of the pitchers). I would expect the K rate to settle in around 22-25% next season, still high, but not extreme, and still loaded with walks.

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:45 PM MDT   0 recs

And this looks out of game flow

because I started typing it after Ian’s strike two…

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:45 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasn't this an issue with Andres Gallaraga?

His stance was too open, he couldn’t recognize enough inside pitches, once he closed it up a little he became a hitting monster?

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:48 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the reverse, yes

I think Ian’s struggling with inside pitches because he has closed it, but I think it’s primarily because he’s still getting acclimated with it. I think a lot of times with open stances you see trouble with outside pitches, sometimes open hitters don’t get back to the plate quick enough on those. Similar theory though.

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:51 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

now that I think of it..

I think you’re right. I think Gallaraga opened his stance more.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:54 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

1-2-3!

Livan on a prayer!

"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi

"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "

~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)

by AtkinsandTulofan on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM MDT   0 recs

1-2-3

this team is utter rubbish...

by TuLoRocks2008 on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM MDT   0 recs

1-2-3 means A-OK.

"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM MDT   0 recs

1-2-3

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:46 PM MDT   0 recs

Dropping your ERA by two runs in two innings...

Says a lot. Unfortunately, it says more about the past…

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Aug 27, 2008 8:47 PM MDT   0 recs

Barmes & willy K again.

I want one of these unis. I don't care what you say, it looks awesome.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Aug 27, 2008 8:50 PM MDT   0 recs

I know pitching has been the hot button

but I will make the case this off-season that a bonafide leadoff hitter should be top priority. We have a poorly designed lineup that leaks in too many valuable areas. The Rockies squander more with an ineffective lineup/personnel than they do with their pitchers, only because the offense should be capable of more than it produces.

by David OhNo on Aug 27, 2008 8:53 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs