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Friday Rockpile:

After debacles like yesterday play out, there's just not much left to say. Were the Rockies terrible? Sure. Any worse than they've been earlier this season? Not really. This team doesn't hit new lows anymore than it sort of scoots and bumps along the bottom like some long dead corpse as the tide brings it further out to sea. That the team doesn't know it's dead yet:

"It's tough to lose two games in one day - especially, going into the day, you feel like you can win both of them, gain some ground," Troy Tulowitzki said. "But we dug ourself a hole. Now we're going to have to get back out of it like we've been doing it all year. There is enough time. We're making it tough on ourself, very tough, but there's always time."

is probably some credit to them, but I'm suspecting any signs of life left this season are just the movements caused by crabs or other sea creatures feeding off 2008's cold, lifeless internal organs and not some sign that the Rockies are ready to once again rise from the deep.

The one solace would be that questions for 2009 are answered as we bump along. So far, while I'm more optimistic about the state of our position players than I was with the center field, catcher and second base issues looming for the start of 2008, the rotation still bugs me. The team, and us as fans, would really like to count on Jeff Francis to be a third stable force, but yesterday's start sent some mixed messages in that regard. For four innings he looked like vintage Francis, but for the last two, he looked like his 2008 version. Let's hope that those last two innings were just a glitch in the machine.

I won't be around until the end of tonight's game thread as I'm heading to Lexington for the Tourists game shortly, but Jake Peavy versus Glendon Rusch is just the sort of matchup that fosters my rotation queasiness for next season. While our hope is that Franklin Morales or Jason Hirsh or Greg Reynolds or any combination of the three with maybe even a Jorge De La Rosa thrown in will have learned and developed enough to give us at least some mild hope for down rotation match-ups next year, the fact is that as of right now there are still far too many maybe's and projections that haven't yet translated into their performance this season. Hoping that they will for next season is easy enough, but expecting them to is another matter. Failing that, it's pretty clear that the caliber of fallback starter we will wind up with will be closer to the Rusch/Livan Hernandez level than whatever level it is we as fans aspire to. In other words, our bets are still going to be on the development of our own farm raised young guns than on any outside hired thug, and having been burned by that bet this season, I'm nervous about rolling the dice on it again for 2009.

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PLEASE SAY HI TO MIK FROM A GUY

in Calif. who loves the way he runs a team. The wedding was great. Is it time to change my overly optimistic name from “91 wins in 08” to say 75?

by 91 wins in 08 on Aug 8, 2008 2:09 PM MDT reply actions  

The last paragraph

is sad but true. This team needs to look outside the org for a legit top of the rotation starter but surely will not, and I have no confidence that any of our in-house candidates can pitch at a decent 3/4 level for any amount of time, to say nothing for the concerns re Francis. Alas. Expectations were fun, but back to the old “hope for a miracle” days seem unavoidable. Hey, it worked once…

by Teekalong on Aug 8, 2008 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

It's not just the rotation

It’s the streakiness of the offense that’s killing this team. For a few games they tear the cover off and then they get shut down by guys are aren’t household names in their own households.

Hawpe and Atkins, in particular, are wonderful weapons when they’re hot, and utter dead spots when they’re not. Holliday, for all his numbers, isn’t yet the kind of offensive force (especially in the clutch) that can carry a team a la Pujols or Ortiz. It’s too early to tell if Tulo and Stewart will be consistent hitters or streaky ones.

One of the reasons I love Spilly is that he always gives you good at bats and never goes into prolonged slumps. Frankly, I’ve started to get the same vibe from Iannetta.

This team needs a lineup filled with steady, professional hitters who will, at the very least, be a able to get a sac fly when you need one, move a runner along when you need to and battle pitchers on days when the team needs it.

Maybe its the coaching, maybe it’s the personnel, but something’s gotta change.

by BroJB on Aug 8, 2008 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

speaking to coaching and hitting inconsistency

Maybe its Hurdle shifting the freaking lineup every day!!! Seriously is this guy so ADD that he can’t keep one lineup from one game to the next. Baker batting 2nd gets hot. Moves to 7/8th not hitting. Tulo move to 7th starts hitting, move to 2nd not so much. Lead off with Barmes (not a half bad idea) then start Mr. .280 OBP Tavarez. I just feel like if he would stick with one lineup and guys knew where there were hitting would remain the same from one night to the next we would see more consistency.

by cocainelips99 on Aug 8, 2008 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I say, break out the defibulator!

I think they need to jump start the entire organization. As Rox Girl has mentioned over the last couple of days/posts. The big club seems to be at death’s door, and the lower tiers seem to be stagnating a bit, especially Tulsa and the Springs.

With this being the case, why not start the promotion wagon turning.

- Dump Rusch and insert Morales back into the rotation.
- Dump Wells and Viscaino for Register and Speier.
- Release “Q” and promote Mighty Joe for good (let’s see if he can make Atkins expendable, and hell, he’s a better bat off the bench anyway)
- Release Mike McCoy and Doug Bernier from the Springs (Boy, they have a lot of “filler” there) and promote 3/4 of the Tulsa infield Wimberly, Dragicevich, and Kindel
- Release Towers and Redman from the Springs (did I mention how much “filler” they have there) and promote Hynick and Alan Johnson
- Keep them moving from there.

(oh, and when the Olympics are over, find room for Fowler in the Springs and dump Nix)

by RockyMtnRedbird on Aug 8, 2008 3:47 PM MDT reply actions  

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