Game #141: Zito vs. Cook
by Russ Oates on Sep 3, 2008 12:00 PM MDT
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How about speeding Zito on his way to another loss?
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You're on your own today,
as I have to be part of a discussion panel for my Civil War class today.
"Keep your head down, and inch toward daylight." - Blade of Tyshalle
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Day game?
Awesome….work productivity will be minimal for the rest of the day
Second half run?
Yup, good thing I put a few hours in on Sunday
Trying to decide the healthiest way to eat lunch at Coors Field on a diet.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
That would have required a grocery trip...
I was all set for Wall Street Deli veg soup and side salad until my schedule cleared…
Anyway, I’m outta here. Ya’ll enjoy the game thread, GO ROCKIES!!!!
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
best part is i am off for the rest of the week
so this game should take me into the “weekend” on a huge high. Going to the game a Saturday and hopefully we will be out 4 games.
by cocainelips99 on Sep 3, 2008 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Pablo Sandoval
needs to stop making outs….
Second half run?
who are these people...
god mccain…i thought he was going for president lol cant stand these pests
this team is utter rubbish...
Is anybody watching this game?
Is cook getting hit hard or are these singles just finding holes?
in San Francisco
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
oh i have directv
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions
what happened?
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
barry zito the great
hes going to throw his best game of the season i can feel it
this team is utter rubbish...
yep i saw...im going to just say his best game
which could still be like 4 runs in like 7 innings lol
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions
double for atkins
just keep throwing those hangers up there Barry
Second half run?
single for iannetta
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
tulo flyout
great
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
Troy Tulowitzki 2 1__ 1-2 Flied Out Ball,Foul,InPlay
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Sep 3, 2008 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
bleh
Cookie not looking hot today
Second half run?
Need to pull him now
while the game is still in reach.
Don't worry
It’s Zito. It is always in reach.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Sep 3, 2008 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Cook
Man, seems like there’s a finite amount of starting pitching juice on this team. Francis begins to pitch well, and Cook loses his edge.
that just sucks
thanks aaron
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
Cook has
been less than impressive the second half. Hurdle once again letting the game get out of hand.
by DieHardRox on Sep 3, 2008 1:49 PM MDT reply actions
being repetitive gets you nowhere
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
6-1
Its a (almost)must win Hurdle, yank him
Second half run?
just like i posted after the win yesterday
this is the type of game we always lose all year…just when we have momentum and a pitching advantage bamm downhill
this team is utter rubbish...
Ack
Rockies! Sometimes, you are the must terrible team to watch..even on gameday.
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
on gameday it looks worse
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Now
You guys want to dump Cook? Please! Because he’s had a couple of struggles after being unstoppable to start the year? He’s among the NL leaders in wins and innings thrown! Yeah, let’s get rid of him. Genius.
this optimism you have
post much longer on the Row and you will succumb to being like the rest of us, pessimistic
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
Hence
the reason I stopped visiting Negative Row except when locked at my desk during day games. Lot of crying on here
its glendon rusch
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
you so fail
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions
hello
I am not a veteran forum poster, mistakes happen. Nor do I ever post media
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
ok
it was a joke
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
ahem
I believe we’re in a playoff race though. C’mon
Take a look dude – you wish.
Eugeniooooooo!!!!
by FairweatherFan on Sep 3, 2008 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
We are in a playoff race
and we are 8 games under .500, praying that the team in the lead finishes the season under .500 as well, so we have more than a 2.4% chance at making said playoffs
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
and your bitching?
I’m thankful that we are despite the underperforming of our team this year.
And I don’t buy the “stats” that give percentages. I’ve never seen the accuracy of these stats. I doubt they often are that accurate before the last week of the season
meaningful games in September
Its really all you can ask for….Yankees anyone?
by cocainelips99 on Sep 3, 2008 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Clearly you are mistaken about the purpose of the Row
it is not to talk about the good things the Rox are doing (calling up Fowler is a popular one though)…it is about voicing all the negatives because negatives are more fun. Plus, try to be positive when we are down 6-1 to the Giants
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
that makes me hungry
again
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
really i didn't know
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Ohhh Pablo Sandoval
bet you wish you didn’t have a blogger army giving you props when that happens.
Second half run?
inning started scary and ended pleasant.
for what its worth
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
iannetta just popped out
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
of course he did
Yorvit is injured, therefore someone has to pick up the slack
Remembering Dustin Mohr's glory years!
ugh baker
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
I couldn't tell on mlbtv
but looked like he might have beat the throw.
Well that's just my
unbaised opinion from about 40 feet from my TV
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Replay showed
he was out :-(
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
well that inning sucked
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
and that would help us how?
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions
We don't lose ground
to Arizona
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
wouldn't lose a game on AZ
if we lose
Second half run?
ok
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions
yep the best we hoped to be
after this series and theres was probably within 5 games and we won a game lincecum pitched yesterday so i guess i would take 5 games out after today?
hopefully 4 out after the weekend
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
The plus side of September games:
Even Hurdle realizes he has enough guys on the bench to pinch hit for pitchers…
Second half run?
+1
Even though he has said he doesn’t like the expanded rosters because its like playing a different game.
It’s a shame he doesn’t know how it should be played in the first place….
interesting
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions
us or them?
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions
them hopefully
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Yea, I hope so.
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions
On the bright side
We can score 1 run an inning and tie the game in the 9th.
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
just what i was thinking lol
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
take him out
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
wait, i spoke too soon
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
ok
ill accept 1 run per inning the rest of the way as long as they don’t score
this team is utter rubbish...
Definately
Might give me a heart attack but…
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
We already used Fowler
Didn’t we?
I got here late (Stupid school)
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
pods goin to center
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Is he or is that your fantasy lol
I am listening to the Giants so they wont tell me
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
i thought that was the logical thing to do....pitchers spot 9th with willy out
but i guess not…hurdlogic
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Obvisouly Willy T is still in
or else he ran from the bench and caught that pop-up LOL
Is it 2007 all over again?
by rockiesfan4ever on Sep 3, 2008 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
it's not happening fast enough
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
on another good note
Lohse is looking like pre all star game lohse…so come on guys get runs
this team is utter rubbish...
this guy is having the game of his life
this team is utter rubbish...
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 3, 2008 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions
AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
aHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Pablo Sandoval is immortal
Second half run?
Hurdle doesn't want the Rockies to win...
Register gives up another homer. He has given up 3 more now 9-2
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM MDT reply actions
ugh i don't like hurdle!
destroy him now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
not with Hurdle
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
When you are down 6-2 at coors field...
and trying to contend in a pennant race, why would you bring in someone that only has one game of MLB experience? 4 runs at coors isn’t that big of a deficit, 7 makes it much tougher. And it doesn’t exactly bring warm fuzzies to Register either.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:46 PM MDT reply actions
Don't
use logic and reasoning where Hurdle is cincerned.
by DieHardRox on Sep 3, 2008 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
You are so right
Hurdlelogic knows no logic or reasoning.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
IMO
at this stage of the season you go all out to win today and worry about the rest as it comes up.
by DieHardRox on Sep 3, 2008 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
It's not ideal
But who else is there? When your starter only goes 3 innings and your bullpen pitched 6+ innings the night before, and in general the middle relief has been crap, options are few. Maybe there was a better option, but it’s not like he’s working with a rested bullpen, here.
I guess he could have used Viz, Speier, or Herges....
I realize they all could have given up some runs, but at least they are older and more experienced. They do have an off day tomorrow. We were a long shot to win this game, but I just don’t like the idea of leaving a young reliever in there for 2 homers.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, the two homers
hurt. But Herges was probably going to make it into the game regardless, and the Viz also pitched yesterday, if I remember correctly. And Speier has been hit or miss.
I’m not really arguing, I guess, just that it seems like all the choices were less than ideal, especially given that Grilli was definitely unavailable.
I definately agree about nothing being ideal...
if only we could have a Grilli clone…2 Grilli’s! I am really impressed with him! I probably am coming off as really crabby and I apologize. I guess I just wish Cook hadn’t had a bad outing…he’s human though. And at least the bullpen had clean outings the rest of the way…something that will hopefully help for future games.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Don't overrate experience
it wasn’t a good outing by Register, but to believe that Herges or Vizcaino would have done better based on experience is dubious. Register is a polished relief prospect with superior stuff to both Herges and Speier, and likely could surpass all three in value to next year’s pen. Considering that game experience may be least valuable to a reliever, Register was as good a bet as any (remember when he had zero experience, he came in and struck out the final batter of an inning with runners in scoring position). The fact that it didn’t work out for Register is what we simply call “baseball.”
I agree that Register could go on to surpass several guys in the pen...
What you say makes sense. I think I was just frustrated with how the whole game went and moreso than anything , I was concerned that what happened in today’s game could upset Register mentally for future games. Hopefully, he will keep his composure though and just put the game behind him. Everyone has bad outings. The Rockies can’t look back and just need to win as many games as they can anyway, to even have a small chance at anything. I think the off day will be good for the team.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Frustration is easy
in a game like that, and it’s also important to consider Register’s mentality following such an outing. I get the sense he’s pretty mentally tough. He had outings like this in Tulsa, only to bounce back and perform solid the next night.
The majors, however, aren’t played in Tulsa, so we’ll have to see where Register goes from today. Nice thing is Hurdle will likely give him ample chances to recover from today.
Iannetta walks...
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:47 PM MDT reply actions
Baker K's to end the inning..
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:47 PM MDT reply actions
is there a right song for this occasion
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
Pain by Three Days Grace?
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 2:50 PM MDT reply actions
yeah that works.
any others
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I am not usually the pessimist, but Silverblood had a playlist for this occasion...
Rockies 2008 Playlist, Revised:
1. Nobody’s Home — Avril Lavigne
2. Stupid — Sarah McLachlan
3. In Pieces — Backstreet Boys
4. Train Wreck — Sarah McLachlan
5. Give Me Novacaine — Green Day
6. Wake Me Up When September Ends — Green Day
7. Going Down in Flames — 3 Doors Down
8. Dead! — My Chemical Romance
9. There’s No Solution — Sum 41
10. I’m Going Slightly Mad — Queen
11. Crashed — Daughtry
12. Predictable — Good Charlotte
13. Everything Burns — Ben Moody feat. Anastasia
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm
wondering what will happen next year if Hurdle gets off to his traditional horrible start in April and May. Probably a 2 year extension.
by DieHardRox on Sep 3, 2008 2:51 PM MDT reply actions
lets hope not.
how much longer is his contract?
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
by pierzynskirules on Sep 3, 2008 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions
well that was wack
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
Well I'm glad for Speier having a good inning....
he’s had a couple rough outings lately, so it’s good to see him getting on the right track.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 3:03 PM MDT reply actions
well, that went well
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
well that's over
my uncle does the stupidest and most chaotic things, how slow and I don't have time for "bitchassness". -Kalinda
The Rox have an off day to get it out of their systems...
for now we have to put our faith in the Cardinals. Who lead 3-0 thankfully.
"A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done."
~Vince Lombardi
"Spilly picked me up...He came into the dugout and said, 'We're going to get a win for you right now,' and he did it. "
~Matt Herges (on the Rockies July 3 win)
by AtkinsandTulofan on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM MDT reply actions
Wow, was that weak
It doesn’t even matter that Hurdle brought in Register, as the entire lineup looked lost today against Zito. The dude was throwing 71-72 mph curveballs, and everyone from Holliday to Spilly just looked weak. I’ve never seen a less inspired team. Even when Barmes hit the dinger, the dugout seemed like “meh”.
Frankly, only two of the first six hits off Cookie were anything hit well. The Giants just kept putting bat on ball and they just kept falling in, though Schierholtz squared him up pretty well. Herges and Speier looked good. Fowler looked good at the plate, despite the result. But damn, everything from the team to the crowd was flat flat flat today.
Seriously, the club should tell me before I dump $30 on a club seat that they really didn’t want to play a game today.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
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