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Wednesday Rockpile: Coors rep depends on Holliday; Rockies in it in '09; Atkins headed for hearing

Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post is reporting that how Matt Holliday does in Oakland determines the way people will look at the post humidor days of Coors Field.  Saunders dives into some stats that would suggest that the humidor is doing its job, such as three 1-0 games in 2008, something that never happened in the past.  I tend to disagree.  The reputation for Coors Field has been etched in stone and placed in the history books to stay.  Despite hitters parks like Great American and Citizen's Bank Park, Coors Field still comes into play as the more "hitter friendly" venue.  Don't believe me?   Ask Holliday and the MVP trophy he lost to Jimmy Rollins.  If Holliday does well in Oakland, he simply becomes a great hitter, and Coors Field remains an unfair advantage to the rest of the baseball world.

In another Denver Post article, Troy Renck tells fans to not write off the 2009 Rockies.  Renck mentions, among other reasons, that the rest of the N.L. West hasn't gotten any better. If the Dodgers can't pony up the money to sign Manny Ramirez, the Rockies, with the addition of Jason Marquis, may just have the ability to win the division, or at least make it close.  While I can be accused of being a hopeless romantic with this franchise, I believe there is some truth in this article.  Despite most fans opinion, Dan O'Dowd has done a good job this off season with what he has been forced to work with.  I believe that ownership told him to ship off Matt Holliday at all costs, they didn't want to spend $12 million on someone who wouldn't be around in 2010.  In that trade they received an extremely talented player in Carlos Gonzalez, and a closer with close to 100 career saves.  In addition, O'Dowd rid himself of his 2007 mistake in Luis Vizcaino, and landed a quality, experienced arm in Jason Marquis.  Marquis has won no less than 11 games in each of the last five seasons.  Essentially, he is a more talented Josh Fogg.  With this addition, and a return to form of Jeff Francis, the Rockies have every opportunity to be in the hunt come September.

The Rockies dealing with arbitration is usually a quick process, exchange numbers and meet in the middle.  The Rockies have only been to an arbitration hearing on three occasions, winning two of them.  Jack Etkin of the Rocky Mountain News is reporting that the Rox may be in line for their fourth hearing.  Apparently the Rockies and Garrett Atkins are $1.3 million apart.  That is a huge difference as far as arbitration is concerned.  Atkins is reportedly seeking $7.95 million, and the Rockies are offering $6.5 million.  Despite Atkins numbers going down in two consecutive seasons, Atkins has a strong case for his number.  With the loss of Holliday, he is now the teams power source.  Also, he showed his versatility by moving from third base to first base when Todd Helton went down with a back injury.  It almost seems as if the Rockies are preparing to say goodbye to Atkins by suggesting early on that they are not going to be shelling the money out for him.  Tracy Ringolsby suggests that he may already be gone, if not for the question of Helton's health going into '09.  If Helton returns to health, the Rockies may put Atkins on the trading block depending on where they sit in the standings come July 31st.

Eat. Drink. Be Merry. But the above FanPost does not necessarily reflect the attitudes, opinions, or views of Purple Row's staff (unless, of course, it's written by the staff [and even then, it still might not]).

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Er...

didn’t we just have these articles/debates? Maybe I’m crazy.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jan 21, 2009 12:01 AM MST reply actions  

Well

The Renck article from the second half was one I cited in my Rockpile.

The first paragraph delves into the Coors effect a bit but with a slightly different angle – that of the effect of Holliday’s performance in Oakland. And I must admit, I am incredibly interested to see how he does by the bay.

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 21, 2009 12:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Well it's nice to see

the main stream press catching up to the Purple Row. I believe that makes us trend setters

"Suck it monkeys, the Rockies will win this year", Rox Girl 1-11-2009

by Redhawk on Jan 21, 2009 6:26 AM MST up reply actions  

I know that we already saw this....

But I figured I had a little different take on it, maybe it wasn’t as different as I thought…Thanks for reading anyway.

by Sandlotkid8 on Jan 21, 2009 9:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I didn't mean to be critical...

you did have a different, interesting take. Thank you for sharing.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jan 21, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

I found this little nugget:
The Dodgers, Rangers, Padres, Rockies and Diamondbacks are among the clubs expected to watch free-agent right-hander Kris Benson’s next throwing session on Saturday. Benson, who underwent rotator-cuff surgery in March 2007, last pitched in the majors in 2006. He was 1-4 with a 5.52 ERA in 11 starts for the Phillies’ Class AAA affiliate last season.

From Fox Sports Ken Rosenthal

Kris Benson? Is this what the Rockies need? I dunno….but he does bring another hot wife (Anna Benson) to add to Podsednick’s (though Benson’s seems nutty as a fruit cake)

"Suck it monkeys, the Rockies will win this year", Rox Girl 1-11-2009

by Redhawk on Jan 21, 2009 7:18 AM MST reply actions  

Or how bout a baseball Picture of Mrs. Benson

 imagine this but with Purple Pin Strips

"Suck it monkeys, the Rockies will win this year", Rox Girl 1-11-2009

by Redhawk on Jan 21, 2009 7:28 AM MST up reply actions  

[violently vomits]

Sorry, I can’t stand that woman.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Jan 21, 2009 8:21 AM MST up reply actions  

Me neither

actually

"Suck it monkeys, the Rockies will win this year", Rox Girl 1-11-2009

by Redhawk on Jan 21, 2009 9:41 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 4:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I was going to argue with this statement:
In addition, O’Dowd rid himself of his 2007 mistake in Luis Vizcaino, and landed a quality, experienced arm in Jason Marquis.

…because I thought Viz for LaTroy Hawkins was more of a wash than a mistake. However, Latroy went 3-1 with a 3.92 ERA last year and the Viz was 1-2, 5.28.

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Jan 21, 2009 8:58 PM MST reply actions  

This is probably unneeded

But you do realized that they were both signed as FAs, not traded, right? It just seemed convenient like that.

Hawkins was absolutely lousy in NY. He was absolutely amazing in Houston. I’m glad we didn’t have him, frankly. I wasn’t atrocious, but I think we were better off without him. Esp now.

Viz was hurt and still recovering from Joe Torre Bullpen Abuse™ but he did give us a 49/19 K/BB ratio, as well as (sees HR/9 just below 2.00) ok never mind screw him

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

Wins are stupid for a starter, but downright retarded for a reliever. They tell you absolutely nothing about his season. You could have one MISERABLE inning (like give up 2 GS to Fernando Tatis) and have it skyrocket your ERA but be downright solid in nearly every other game, and it looks like you stunk up the whole season. Wins and Losses just have to do when the manager puts you in or yanks you. If you wanna start to gauge a relief pitcher’s season, look at their WHIP and K/BB ratio. Relief pitchers are all about their immediate tools, not their longevity or whatever. Can you come in and get an out or 2 without letting more people on?

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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't look at the wins so much as the losses...

for the relievers. And even though they were free agent signing, it smelled like a trade to me.

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Jan 21, 2009 11:03 PM MST up reply actions  

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