Why Chris Iannetta is a Special Boy
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Who is the longest tenured catcher in Rockies history? By tenured, I mean actual playing time, not JayHawk Owens sitting on the bench for 4 seasons.
Did you say Joe Girardi? If you did, you're right.
The top 5 longest playing catchers in Rockies history are:
1. Joe Girardi
2. Jeff Reed
3. Yorvit Torrealba
4. Kirt Manwaring
5. Charles Johnson
Among those, I'll go ahead and step up and say that Jeff Reed was the best of the lot of them. He had a good % of runners thrown out (somewhere around 30), not too many passed balls, and in 1997 and 1998, he simply clocked the ball. During his time, he more or less platooned the backstop with Kirt Manwaring.
Shout out to Charles Johnson, he put up some good numbers after the Hampton trade, but trading him to Boston for BH Kim was a decent move.
The point of this story is: Colorado has never really had a steady backstop. They've gone through a good number of them, some did well, some didn't. Taking a look at Rockies' catchers through the history of the team:
1993-1995 Joe Girardi
1996-1998 Jeff Reed/Kirt Manwaring
1999 Henry Blanco
2000 Brent Mayne
2001 Ben Petrick
2002 Gary Bennett
2003-2004 Charles Johnson
2005 Danny Ardoin
2006-2007 Yorvit Torrealba
2008 Chris Iannetta
Other noteworthy catchers include JD Closser, Todd Greene, Bobby Estalella, Sal Fasano, Adam Melhuse, Jayhawk Owens, and Danny Sheaffer.
(For the record, I just put the catcher who caught the majority of the games in each year as the starter, I know Ben Petrick was around longer than just 2001, etc. The other noteworthy guys are just the catchers who played in a couple seasons for more than like 1 game.)
We've tried a number of free agents, journeymen, trades, and hoped for the "Catcher of the Future" to be in our system, and several times, we think we've had him. I'm really excited about Chris Iannetta, and I think he's got a lot going for him, and he's gonna be a solid catcher for years to come.
So the question to ask is "What makes Chris Iannetta so special?"
The answer and more after the jump.
I'll answer that in 4 letters: "IsoD"
The man has simply superhuman plate discipline, almost Helton-esque. Almost.
Iannetta's first stint in the majors in 2006 yielded a .260/.370/.390 line for August/September. Now, I don't know about you, but a .370 OBP from a catcher is downright awesome. Heck, a .370 OBP from anyone is pretty awesome. I'd run out on the field and hug Clint Barmes if he could muster up a .370 OBP. Iannetta was looking pretty good.
But then we all know that in 2007, he fell flat on his face and batted .218/.330/.350. Not very good at all. At this point, I thought to myself "But he looked like such a great plate discipline guy when he came up! What happened?" So I looked at his - you guessed it - IsoD.
In 2007, his IsoD was .112. In 2006, it was .110. For his minor league career, it was .106. So we know he's getting on base via walk/hbp at roughly the same rate as he always does, so what else could it be? Well, let's take a look at the other two culprits, BABIP and Swinging%.
For a player with so little experience as Iannetta, we can't really look at career BABIP and expect it to be a good baseline. I tend to use a .310 BABIP as a good baseline in Coors Field, what with the big outfield and propensity to hit a good dying quail. Iannetta's BABIP in 2006 was .310 (That's right. I'm good) and in 2007 it was a high and mighty .289. Now, that isn't an atrocious BABIP, but 1. it's low for Coors Field, and 2. Iannetta really isn't a high average hitter, so any drop in BABIP is gonna look more severe on actual AVG than on others.
So right then, it looked to me like Iannetta was just plain getting unlucky, his hits weren't dropping or they were right at someone. But with an IsoD of .112, I figured that his bat would eventually come around, but until then, he still had a better OBP than the other options.
Sports Illustrated did a series of articles before the 2007 season that had Chris Iannetta as one of "8 who may be great". In the article, they praised Iannetta's makeup, his size, offensive talent, etc, but what stood out most was what other people had to offer him. Specifically, his personal idol Javy Lopez. After being cut in Spring Training '07, Lopez, who had already made a friendship with Iannetta, left a note for him in his locker saying "Good luck. I'll be watching."
In his early years, Iannetta was projected to be a severe pull hitter, until a fellow client of his agent, one Wade Boggs, gave Iannetta some advice to help his opposite field power.
Pretty impressive following.
As mentioned, Iannetta's 2007 was less than stellar, but with Yorvit Torrealba being a borderline MLB catcher, and Iannetta starting to show some promise, Hurdle finally gave Iannetta the chance to hold down the full time catching position.
AND BOY ARE WE ALL HAPPY WE DID.
Chris Iannetta's .264/.390/.504 batting line showed all the best parts of his major league numbers (IsoD) and all the best parts of his minor league numbers (IsoP). He may not have hit the ball a lot, but when he did, it went somewhere. That .240 IsoP (compared to the .264 AVG) tells me that Iannetta averaged a double every time he hit the ball. If you add Iannetta into the top 5 catchers listed at the beginning of this article (and he's only about 17 games shy of cracking the top 5), his 2008 performance ranked 2nd in terms of wOBA (weighted On Base Average), with only Jeff Reed's 1997 season ranked higher, and still, Iannetta hit the ball harder, walked a whole hell of a lot more, but Reed managed a .297 batting average to bolster his OBP and give him a nice, hearty .913 OPS.
Marcel and CHONE both project Iannetta to bat for a lower OPS this season, while still getting on base at a clip right around career norms, but for him to suffer a power outage of around .050 IsoP. I don't really see this happening, personally. His BABIP for the season was .314, so I can see him dropping back a few points of AVG to right around .260, and if you add back in a IsoD of .118 (right between his .126 IsoD in 2008 and the career .110 we'd expect), we're at .260/.378, and then an IsoP of around .205 (I'm dropping back his MLB IsoP to around his minor league totals, just for the sake of conjecture), that puts him at .260/.378/.465, good for an OPS of .843.
Another thing to consider here, and there's a distinct chance I overstate it, but Don Baylor coming back as strictly a hitting coach might help him focus on making us a more patient team. I don't see a reason that Iannetta can't build on this season and maybe even bring a slightly higher AVG.
Defensively, Iannetta handles the wild pitching of Ubaldo Jimenez and Jorge De La Rosa, backstops a groundball-heavy approach from Aaron Cook, and picks up whatever fill-in-the gap pitcher we have taking the mound. Throwing out basestealers isn't a strong point of Iannetta, as he has yet to pass the 25% mark on the season, but he can do it effectively (I swear I saw him throw out Juan Pierre once). The trick will be just learning more about when to make the moves, etc. A lot of intangible, coaching-driven kinds of things.
Iannetta also doesn't pass a lot of balls. He's not the best, but if you look at his Passed Balls per 1000 outs caught (I completely made this metric up just to compare our catchers), Iannetta has improved from 3.48 in 2006 to 2.68 in 2007 and 2.39 in 2008. And that's with Ubaldo pitching a full season.
If you want to talk about regression, what's to regress? I can see his power dipping a bit, but there was only a .015 difference in SLG between Coors and EveryWhereElse, so we can't just say "COORS FIELD EFFECT!". He has a solid IsoD, which, even if it drops a bit, it's still superhuman. His BABIP isn't out of line.
Iannetta seems to be this combination of all the best parts of our history of catching corps. He is homegrown (Petrick, Closser). He is always out signing autographs before games (Charles Johnson), and the fans love him (Kirt Manwaring). He's offensively awesome (Jeff Reed). He shows good defensive instincts behind the plate (Girardi). I wanted to suggest he's balding already, but I couldn't think of anyone to compare him to.
He really does sound like the real deal, folks.
So, to recap: We have a 26 year old catcher who has an eye at the plate that is second to only Helton amongst the Rockies, who has developed a lethal power swing, plays a solid backstop defensively, we have Don Baylor coming in as a hitting coach, and to top it off, he has portrayed himself as a polite, nice young man who is good with the fans.
I'd like to welcome in the Catcher of the Future.
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I can't quantify this but
I remember the bomb he hit that bounced off the Toyota billboard over the LF concourse, biggest home run I saw all season, although Hawpe’s triple decker to RF might be close.
by Hizilla on Jan 21, 2009 10:19 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Stewart had a knock like Hawpe's too
Iannetta hit a 422ft HR to L off of Todd Coffey of the Reds on 7/27/08. That was about the biggest, but I don’t think that was the one. I thought ti was one of the ones off of the Marlins.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was off Scott Olsen in the 4th of July slugfest, right?
Hit Tracker rates it as the fourth longest Rockies homer this season. The one you mention was Iannetta’s hardest hit HR, though.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 10:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was in the LF bleachers on July 4
That thing was still well in the air as it went over our heads.
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on Jan 21, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I was at that game with the HR off Coffey,
And that ball left the park like a rocket ship. It was easily the hardest hit I saw in person all year, with the possible exception of one I saw Adam Dunn hit off of Joe Thatcher last July.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hit tracker...
www.hittrackeronline.com is a pretty cool site for looking these up, although I am fairly sure that they were not able to get any data from the bomb I am thinking of. He had one in the 4th of July that was pretty deep, but some how I feel like it was in the game the day before, I can’t really remember and I’m too lazy to go back, I do remember looking at the giant dent he put in that billboard the rest of the season.
Related – Good work on the post – looking forward to more
by Hizilla on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In defensive of Kurt Manwaring...
Met him at the Denver Zoo one year. Just a class act all the way around. Was nervous in saying anything to him as he was with his kids… managed a “heck of job there Kurt” which was appreciated. One of my few run ins with fame in my life. I’ve not lead much of a fame filled life…
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by MattTheRock on Jan 21, 2009 10:36 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite Chris Bermanisms:
Kurt “what is that” Manwaring!
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Jan 21, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ahh ben petrickk
how i remember the hype about him….:shaking head:
Jiri Hudler...our underrated MVP
by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 21, 2009 10:55 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
What can you do
about Parkinson’s? We’re all left to wonder what a healthy Petrick could have done, because the effects may have started well before the diagnosis.
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 21, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was about to say the same thing...
The tools that guy had were mind-blowing. I think he would have been very, very good – if not great.
Rock rock 'til you drop!
by theoldgrizzlybear on Jan 21, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
his head is probably shaking too
by ch3cooh1 on Jan 22, 2009 7:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Very informative post
I’ve been a fervent backer of Iannetta since his callup in 2007 late in the season. I didn’t have the statistical analysis background to defend my observations, but you did a great job of spelling that out. I will very much be looking forward to your Wednesday column.
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 21, 2009 11:42 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
how long at catcher?
I think Ianetta is a big time catcher, but with some depth in the organization and his ability at the plate, I wouldn’t be shocked if a new position wasn’t in his not so distant future…ie first base in 2011.
by brainteaser on Jan 21, 2009 11:49 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
2012 seems more likely,
We’ll still have Helton in 2011.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You're assuming
that Helton is healthy in 2011, and his back is in one piece – a dangerous assumption I think. This season should tell alot. IF his 2009 is much like his 2008, I don’t imagine he’ll hang on for 2 more years.
by Hizilla on Jan 21, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot can happen in the next two plus years
in terms of minor league depth at the corner IF positions, as well as major league acquisitions. Rosario and Roling are still in the lower levels of the system, and from most of the projections I’ve seen, McKenry is a candidate for a solid backup or below average MLB starter. But the idea of Iannetta eventually ending up in the infield is a perfectly legitimate one. It’s just so juicy to have such offensive production from the catcher position. If he stays at catcher, his offensive contribution over his positional peers will be notable, while he would end up being more of an average offensive first baseman.
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 21, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
McKenry's probably underrated...
As his offensive value is a little below average which is what everybody’s drawn to, but he will give a lot of added value on defense. He’s already developed a reputation for his arm and only burners are attempting to steal off of him at this point. He’s not going to help your fantasy team but he could become a solid contributor as a starter.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When did McKenry get so big?
I hadn’t heard of him in any real regard before he tore it up in 2007 fall ball. I met him at ST ‘08 in Tucson (got his autograph), and he seemed like a nice guy. He’s showing good plate discipline, but he’s 23 and just finished Modesto. How should we really feel about him?
interesting, look at the scouting ratings from Baseball Cube for Iannetta, McKenry, and Closser:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Michael-Mckenry.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/Players/I/Chris-Iannetta.shtml
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/Fielding/C/J.D.-Closser.shtml
Seems O’Dowd has a particular type of catcher in mind. No Molinas here!
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Geovany Soto just turned 26 yesterday, he's a relative spring chicken...
Kelly Shoppach, Ryan Doumit and Chris Snyder all had their MLB breakouts last season, Shoppach was 28, Snyder and Doumit 27. The Marlins John Baker, also 27, was the 14th most valuable MLB catcher last season according to FanGraphs, and he didn’t make his debut until last year. Catcher’s an odd, paradoxical position. On one hand you have a rapid flameout rate, but on the other you have a typically slower development clock relative to other positions.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think that's the future of MLB Catching?
A series of Victor Martinez/Mike Piazza types transitioning to 1B? I know there’ll always be Danny Ardoin/Damian Miller/similar journeymen types to sign for stints to play backup, and always AAA catching depth, but do you see this being the future of real MLB catchers?
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 8:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think there will be certain types
You’ll have your Mauer like superstars that emulate the Bench/Carter/Simmons model (let’s hope Rosario becomes this), you’ll have those journeyman types that you mention, and then you’ll have those slow developing college types like Shoppach, Snyder and Varitek. McKenry seems to fit into that mold. Iannetta’s kind of harder to place because he’s risen so rapidly after college compared to that last group, I think Buster Posey will be a similar catcher, only Posey has the hype whereas Iannetta came out of nowhere.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
Posey went .463/.566/.879 his last year at FSU
that’s good
Iannetta did .336/.438/.598 at UNC his last year
….
I still like Iannetta.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 9:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
FSU's notoriously hitter friendly...
But Posey’s still a very very good prospect. Iannetta’s 2006 was when he took a step to the next level, Posey may already have arrived there so he could have a longer career. I don’t think their peaks will be dissimilar, however.
by Rox Girl on Jan 21, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
flip side
Injury risks and physical breakdown is also exponentially higher at catcher. There have been a lot of catchers that might be the best hitter on their teams but after a couple of years they really break down fast.
Ianetta has the potential bat to be an above average first baseman with his bat, if he flashes that, I would rather move him than burn him out behind the plate too soon…especially at the age he is coming up.
A lot of the guys who have caught and hit for long periods of time came up as rather young catchers so the mileage on them didn’t take place as much in the minors.
If Ianetta shows legit 30 hr power and the plate discipline we all think he has, the organization will almost be forced to consider a change to manage the risks and keep his bat in the lieneup on a daily basis. You’re right that at this moment, he would be an average 1b, but who know in 2 years if he continues to cover the plate and flashes power consisitently who is to say he would be average?
Either way, he has to produce at catcher in the here and now and I know I am looking forward to watching him.
by brainteaser on Jan 21, 2009 2:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think there was an article
on Fangraphs pointing out that this past season, Ianetta had an abnormally low BABIP at home. While his road BABIP was somewhat high, his home BABIP is bound to go up. Also, albeit small samples, he posted a BABIP of .328 and .420 in AA and AAA respectively in ‘06. I don’t think it would be hard for Iannetta to have a final BABIP of .320.
Also, his K-rate was somewhat high for him this past season and should eventually drop another 4-7 percent.
I’m not sure what Iannetta will do this year but if someone predicted a .280 batting average, I’d say it’s pretty optimistic, but I wouldn’t necessarily argue.
by Resolution on Jan 21, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
On an entirely different note
Is it bad if I keep saying the title of this diary over and over in a creepy Mister Rogers voice?
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on Jan 21, 2009 3:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'd expect no less from the 3B coach
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just realised I don't know who that is.
Since we just fired Gags, after all.
/looks it up
I am… Rich Dauer. Whoever the hell that is. I think it’d be more of a problem if he was repeating the title of this diary in a creepy Mister Rogers voice, especially with the subject concerned in earshot, so it’s best if I assume this purely ceremonial function.
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on Jan 21, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I'm Glenallen Hill
I’ve touched a lot of kids in the minors.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 5:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ohhhh
get it! get it! Touched as in influenced!! not touched as in sexually molested the best players from every minor league team he could get his hands on!! dhfvosobrjbtbftyn
by Resolution on Jan 21, 2009 5:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Drew Goodman just needs new ways to phrase things
Also Jason Hirsh doesn’t get to 3B often.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 8:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Yes you did. Here is the credit for it (pushes pile of cheap poker chips toward ch3cooh1)
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 22, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey by the way silver
This ain’t a diary! This is a frontpage column!
High Five!
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 21, 2009 9:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good column.
And I totally agree with what Don Baylor will bring to this club as hitting coach.
by pedalpusher on Jan 21, 2009 4:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He may be a special boy, but does he have the shoes to prove it?
"Kurt Warner's career has died and been resurrected more times than Jean Grey, so it's pretty fitting that he ends up in Phoenix."
by kishi on Jan 21, 2009 11:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Good reference
In fact I was gonna paste Iannetta’s face onto Phillippe’s for that last panel and got bores and just went on to writing the article.
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 22, 2009 7:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bored that is.
Stupid iPhone keyboard…
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by Andrew Martin on Jan 22, 2009 7:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants fan here
I see the Rockies signed C Dayton Buller. I saw him play for the Grizzlies last year and have to tell you he has all the tools to make your Catcher situation interesting.
I think the Giants never gave him a chance but he was better than anyone else I saw come through Fresno last year.
by 2inonebag on Jan 22, 2009 4:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Rockies are
working hard on being the next Texas Rangers and having a surplus of solid catching prospects.
by Resolution on Jan 22, 2009 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All the more reason
to make it possible for Iannetta to fill in at corner infield since it’s such a void in the minors
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 26, 2009 12:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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