Monday Rockpile: Contract Watch for Dan O'Dowd and Jim Tracy

Sheeeeeeeesh...

Herrera is downright offensive offensively.

How about McKenry though? Do you think, especially with the possible departure of Torrealba, that he sees time at the big league level in 2010?

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by Bryan Kilpatrick on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I have one of those intangible "good feelings" about McKenry

Considering our apparently low expectations of catchers he sounds like he’s very much in the frame to play 2nd fiddle to CDI. Can anyone explain why this might not be the case?

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 8:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

He definitely projects to be an MLB backup at least

but if he started on the 25-man in April, he would probably be overmatched offensively (same thing I thought about Dex). It wouldn’t really hurt the team being the backup, plus he’s very good defensively. But if we want him to do well with the bat at the MLB level, he probably needs more time in the minors.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm curious about Dex

Does he still project to be good enough from the left side of the plate to continue switch hitting? Your overmatched comment got me thinking a little. His line against RHP (which I assume all came from that side of the plate) in 360 PA – .240/.357/.372 – not exactly stellar. I wonder if this is really better than if he would just stay on the other side. Clearly he has a lot of room to grow. Thoughts?

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not really something one can project from stats

He’s seen so few PA’s vs. lefties even in his minor league career. It’s up to the coaching staff and the org’s development people to judge how he’s coming along. The counterfactual is hard to figure for real life—if they’d left him alone from age 18, would have done better against RHP than the line you quoted? Probably. Would he do better if he stopped switch-hitting next year? Much harder to say. There’d be an adjustment period.

He actually showed more power from the left side until Tulsa.

So there’s definitely still time for him to come around from the left side. .357/.372 isn’t horrible for a guy making the jump from AA. OTOH, it wouldn’t be the first time someone has screwed up a player by trying to teach them to switch hit in the minors (see the Dodgers’ 1st base coach).

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea - maybe I should have made that clear

Do the people who know more than I do about hitting approach and swing mechanics think that he can still be a successful switch hitter down the road? Even hitting righty he’s a pretty nice compliment to CarGo/Seth/Brad

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont know a lot about hitting mechanics

Though he did appear to me to have a more fundamentally sound and consistent rh swing than lh. He has improved all things considered each year from the left side, and he was a solid mlb contributor overall despite the jump from AA and relative newness to switch hitting

What I’m saying is, I’m inclined to believe it will be worth it to keep working on his switch hitting. I think he will improve enough to make it an asset.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 10:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Did he get cloned?

How was in the DR and AZ at the same time?

by moomacher on Oct 19, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seeing things.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Before this season I projected McKenry to be the backup in 2010--but now I don't believe that the Rockies will rush him.

Maybe a mid-season callup.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think

I’m in the same boat here. He might get called up earlier depending on injuries though.

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by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Any chance we see Al Albuquerque in the ML camp next spring?

Seems to me we could be getting the good end of the bargain in that trade….

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by Mondogarage on Oct 19, 2009 9:50 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't tell Cubs fans that

He is THE ANSWER, didn’t you hear?

by Muzia on Oct 19, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha...I thought the answer was BABIP

Or, Jeff “BABIP” Baker.

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by Mondogarage on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't speak rationally to the irrational.

by Muzia on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

They are responding in part to Aaron Miles

After getting Aaron Miles thrown at you, Jeff Baker starts looking pretty good.

(Todd Walker also played 2nd there a few years ago; I’m sensing a pattern. Maybe next year they’ll send us someone useful for Barmes.)

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Oct 19, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some good stuff

today over at Inside the Rockies
SDCat09 had a fanshot to it earlier but it wasn’t working and looks like it was deleted.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I deleted it..

I’m not sure what I did wrong but the link wasn’t working….I’ll try again…unless someone else wants too..

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Russ added it to the Rockpile

It definitely wasn’t your fault. I think it was an SBN issue. The actual fanshot wouldn’t open.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahh..thanks for letting me know.

It was definitely an interesting read, and I’m sure will start MUCH discussion…

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's kind of an interesting topic

There are those in the “Trade Brad and get some value while we can because he is replaceable” camp (i.e. Me); and then those in the “Brad’s still a good hitter and we like him, we should keep him for one more year” camp (i.e. You).
I definitely see value in both, and keeping him would not be the worst thing in the world. The only thing I would really take issue with is if he is truly off the table and they wouldn’t even listen to offers, as the Cowboy kind of makes it kind of sounds like – although I would imagine that alot of that is posturing, as there are a number of teams out there that i’m sure would love to have Brad on a 1yr/$7.5M deal.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

My issue with trading Hawpe

is that I think its somewhat premature. I would like to see how he does early on in the season. He certainly ought to be able to compete for a starting job, given his veteran status. He seems very steady and might be a great leader that just goes about it quietly. I say we should keep him at least until the July trade deadline, and then depending on what happens, re-evaluate. I do like Tracy’s idea that he could be kept to play 1st base, assuming they don’t tender Atty.

If one wanted to really parse DOD’s words, he said they no “desire” to trade him, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t depending on the offer.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I probably read too much into that. I don’t really see them getting a Righthanded Carlos Gonzalez (what Tracy says they would need to trade him) – but my opinion isn’t really worth much.
I guess the reason I advocate trading him now stems to how I felt like they waited too long for Garrett, and how he’ll most likely be non-tendered. In all honesty, you’re right Hawpe’s value probably won’t decline in 4 months next year – I just feel like the return would be guaranteed to be smaller.
And in retrospect on Atkins, at the time they could have gotten value for him, I do understand that they weren’t ready to hand the keys to Stewart.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also wonder if maybe they aren't

100% ready to hand the keys to Smith either….?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How's the job search going?

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

slow....but I found a couple of leads

that I hope are promising. Thank you for asking :)

(just gotta find that venture capitalist, who wants to invest in a sports bar!)

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

I’m kind of in the same boat, although with fishing all summer I can kind of afford to sit on my ass for a while – which is actually sapping my motivation to look for work.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

sitting on one's ass does that...

however, that gets boring too! lol

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm torn on this

my basic inclination is similar to the Hizilla argument, that we should trade him now while we can get something (anything) for him; and also of course because I’d like to see if Seth Smith is as good as we think he might be. But of course, that runs the big risk of being wrong on Smith (and there are plenty of warning signs), because burning a guy capable of all-star performance isn’t a mistake you easily recover from, especially one who is on a reasonable deal. And particularly because our window is open right now.

I also think the “we’re not trading him” is all posturing. Part, to keep the “fire sale” flag from going up, and also part to protect the ego of a guy that was an all-star and then got benched. PR move, no big deal.

I think/hope DOD learned his lesson with respect to sitting on his hands after a playoff run, and will be proactive this offseason. Not saying that a ton of changes should/need to be made, but everything should be explored. We have a great core, but championships are found in the fine tuning.

by Teekalong on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I like Seth Smith

I do have the same concern, that maybe he’s not a full-time guy.
I think that Murton and Smith could potentially platoon LF and really not lose much.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another point to keeping an overly crowded outfield

is injury protection. If any of these players go down to injury, another one can fill the spot, without having to bring up someone from AAA, especially, if God forbid, the injury happens before September callups.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've been driving the "trade Hawpe" bandwagon since early May (when he was mashing)...

and I said that his value would never be higher.

Do the Rockies make the postseason if they trade Hawpe around the same time as Tracy takes over? In my opinion, yes, but that’s just me.

In any case, Hawpe is going to lose value every day the season goes on next year. He is the team’s fourth best outfielder when both offense and defense are considered…and I really hope that O’Dowd can see that—Hawpe should very much be on the trading block and if O’Dowd gets a nice proposal (set-up man plus a B prospect) he should take it.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can you prove that Hawpe will lose value?

What if he produces exactly as he did before the All-Star break?

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

He'll lose value in that a team acquiring him will have him under control for less time...

but I do understand your point that he could redeem value. My prediction is that he will not, but I hope that I’m wrong.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It will be hard for him to do

If he isn’t playing everyday. Oh well, if Carlos had mashed within the first week or two of being called up, instead of a month later, we would have traded him.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the thing though...

I’m pretty sure that O’Dowd wouldn’t have traded him. The front office seems to be very attached to Gen R guys and I doubt that a hot streak by CarGo would have changed his mind.

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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I would think the whole purpose of bringing up Carlos was to get the stud prospect going and work on trading the expensive vet (considering we were in a sell mode at the time). The problem is, the stud prospect started out as the dud prospect, and the team got too hot to trade a vet away.

Besides, there isn’t much of Gen R left anyway.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

There is something to be said

for having veteran presence in the clubhouse. Maybe there’s more of that involved than meets the eye. Smith was with the team during the 07 run, but maybe he’s just not ready to be a full time starter.

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Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It would be nice if Smith was given a chance to be a full time starter

I mean, he did pretty darn well with his on again-off again role with the team last year.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

He did mostly....

I think there is more to the story. I did hear him comment on MLB Network that he was not happy about not playing everyday. Perhaps mgmt not happy that he made those comments publicly….just me thinking outloud.

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you are refereing to the report

That they will not trade Hawpe, I think it is mostly due to the difficulty in trading him. I would imagine that the front office would not want to say anything that would strain relations (any further, depending on how well Hawpe took the benching in the postseason). You have to say these things even if they plan on shopping him. Keep in mind Dan said almost the exact same thing about Holliday last year, a month before he aggressively shopped him around.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, I know...

I was just commenting that Smith might be in some hot water for his comments. Hawpe and Marquis both never said anything publicly that was less than professional, about their respective benchings.

And who’s to say, if had faced Pedro in Game 3, Hawpe might very well have started…

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

He might have

And you do bring up a point. The team doesn’t take internal criticism in public well (at least I think so, it doesn’t happen all that often)

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ironically, Hawpe

last year made some public comments about O’Dowd publicly calling out the team, so he’s no shrinking violet…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t see this team keeping him around for $7M and not at least planning on him playing every day.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the OF is really going to be SS/DF/CG, I really can't see keeping a $7.5 mil spare corner OF around.

And I think he reverted back after the ASB to what we can really expect from his plate appearances. And his defense is well chronicled. Get something for him while we can.

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by pedalpusher on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The question is

Can they get anything for him at all. The financial climate is quite a bit different now than it was last year. There are top end outfielders available in Bay and Holliday for the big rich clubs to play with, and a ton of guys like Hawpe for the smaller market teams to go after. The question is, who will be willing to give up both prospects and pay they guy when they can get equal value from the FA market.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Looking over

the Rocky Mountain SABR website for the first time in months, you can see there’s an axe to grind with Troy Renck.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

when all you have is numbers

you attack those who don’t bow down to the sabr theory.

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

click the link

The complaints there have nothing to do with statistics or sabr thought

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 11:04 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

The people who post there

are sabr heads.
Lots of sabr heads make the same arguments over and over, and they’re all based on numbers. If you don’t want to use obscure variables to have what they feel is an “educated” discussion, they will try to discredit the other persons opinion.
With Renck, they have to stoop to picking on his spelling or lack of editing in his columns.

If your opinion varies from what I believe, I would only ask you to look at some of the stats you guys throw out for others.
wOBA? Who cares.
BABIP? Same thing. Who cares.
9 runs equals an expected “win”?
VORP? When a value is made-up so we can determine how much better than that value a “replacement player” is, its BS IMO.

They’re all made up stats that allow others to define what some know just by their observations. The real key is to take both stats and observations into account, but some can’t do the observations part and project how a player will develop. How many times do people throw out SSS? Its because they don’t have enough stats to define the ability of a player. A scout, or even a fan, has to determine a players upside, without benefit of years of stats, but to others that isn’t good enough. When it suits them to use a variable they have determined is viable, then YOU are wrong if you don’t subscribe to the same theory.

Just my $.02 and no, I’m not attacking the numbers crowd.

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by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont want a war (no pun intended)

But I’m compelled to ask – do you feel that it is at all possible for statistical evaluation to improve in accuracy over the course of decades, or do you think the original stats are the most accurate (batting average for example). Or are you fully in the scout’s corner far from stats? I’m unfamilar with your stance. I certainly understand your thoughts on vorp or other seemingly mystical stats with vague definitions, but I’m curious about your hesitancy to accept woba or babip, which are really just different ways of using stats that have existed for decades

As it is, I’m happy we have a community of both stat heads and those that refuse to buy in. Having a diverse community is more fun and rewarding

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

As it is, I’m happy we have a community of both stat heads and those that refuse to buy in.

I wasn’t going to post here anymore, but this one got me. Um…no you don’t. This blog has become all about the stat head/Sabr people, and any other view is pretty unwelcomed any more.

Even questioning of those people or any of their stats is unwelcomed now. There is little to no give an take. There is a feeling that there a game that has been played and watched for over 100 years is now completely changed, and if a person doesn’t buy into that, then they are some how unworthy or too stupid to really understand what the right and correct big brain number people know.

I responded to you as your answer was actually a nice response.

by Redhawk on Oct 19, 2009 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

just because i disagree with you doesnt mean i dont value said debate

I’m happy there are people here with opposing views, as everyone saying the same thing gets boring. So yes, I do value it even if I don’t agree

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 12:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Even questioning of those people or any of their stats is unwelcomed now. There is little to no give an take. There is a feeling that there a game that has been played and watched for over 100 years is now completely changed, and if a person doesn’t buy into that, then they are some how unworthy or too stupid to really understand what the right and correct big brain number people know.

PF and I present a very stable viewpoint on our articles.

Granted, mine are specifically INTENDED to be stat-guy articles, but I feel I try to give the analysis in terms of both the old-school numbers and the new-school numbers. PF does an excellent job of writing his NLWR and KYF articles to include the traditional numbers, but also include the advanced as well.

It seems that the mere inclusion of wOBA or WAR or FIP is threatening enough to some to be viewed as an attack. It’s not.

Now, being the stathead on this site who’s gotten into this the most with you in the past, I think I’ve done a damn fine job of lightening my tone and trying to cater to both schools of thought. If you don’t agree with this, you’re welcome to say as such, but to accuse myself and the writers on this website of trying to make it into a SABR haven is just wrong. Flat out wrong. I regularly read and comment on websites where the non-SABR crowd is flat out mocked. This isn’t it, I promise you that. We are not having e-meetings where we try and turn everything into SABR and nothing else. Just because a few of our more vocal posters (including myself) are SABR-inclined does NOT mean that this site is SABR only.

So there are a few people on this site that need to knock off this martyr crap, because these people are being JUST as condescending to the SABR people as they are to the Non. And likewise goes to the SABR crowd – knock off the crap.

This site is awesome. We’re making massive strides in general. Part of making these strides is having coverage that involves advanced metrics, and parts of the strides are being able to look back and cater to the more traditional crowd. I feel the articles, for the most part, do a good job of this. Let’s just try to enjoy it rather than play blame games and cry out that one viewpoint isn’t being respected.

Please.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm surprised at the tone

from Redhawk and Teekalong, which seems to imply that they’re abused around here. I haven’t been around so much the last month (in part because there were so many posts it became very difficult to keep up with), did something change?

Arguments around here get heated, but more in the sense of getting animated than being abusive, to me. There seems to me to be less rudeness here than just about any other internet forum. Granted, the internet in general sets a pretty low bar, but considering how quickly we dash off comments, it seems like we’re doing a pretty good job at PR.

There are numbers guys and there are numbers guys, too. It’s not as if people don’t disagree all the time about how to interpret the numbers.

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Oct 19, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think I somewhat understand what Redhawk and Teekalong are

feeling. When one is not a stathead, to the degree that some here are, it makes the debate about players awfully difficult to have. It’s a feeling of, look its new “MATH” therefore infallible.

Also, from some reason, Rockies fans, seem to really LIKE all the players. You don’t hear about most of them being jerks or “cancers” in the clubhouse. So the idea of getting rid of or relegating a player to a lesser role based on “math” seems unfair. And because its “math” you can’t argue against it.

“Math” isn’t all there is to baseball. Its almost as though “math” is replacing the eyes and ears, and potentially eliminates a player from consideration because his ‘math" in one area isn’t as strong as in another.

And then some of us, just like watching the players play and the managers manage.

I know that was a bit rambling, but that’s how I see it.

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry for the redundant use of "math" but I was trying to make a point

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

this post actually explains partly why im a stats person

I like these players. I am emotionally attached to the team and its players. Stats give me a chance to remove emotion that could cloud my judgement in analyzing things. Emotions, first impressions and perspective can cloud reality, IMO. I do take a black and white approach too much though.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

But you hate Torrealba

by Muzia on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont hate him

I actually love yorvit. He is a great reserve catcher. Well, if he didn’t have a noodle arm

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 4:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think he was yanking your chain PF.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

not a great time for that I'd wager

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Frankly

this is precisely why I’m starting to embrace the numbers somewhat. Objectivity isn’t a bad thing at all, and the stats are helpful in keeping that in mind.

by Teekalong on Oct 19, 2009 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, that noble dream.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was actually relief pitchers that pushed me over the edge

Though as engineer, I was likely destined to arrive eventually. Relief pitchers might debut with several bad outings, sealing fans’ opinions on them. Even twelve straight scoreless innings can’t shake it. For example, morales had 12 scoreless outings in June, allowing three hits. No one remembered that this month. Then I joined PR and I took off.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 4:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

That's the beauty of the game..

we can do all of the above. Debate stats and watch as players do things that completely defy our statistical expectations and drive us crazy. (see Great Catcher Debate of 2009)…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you mean

Mediocre Catcher Debate?

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

heh..

I was going for more of the “Great Recession of 09” kind of thing…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was trying to make a bad pun

on your adjective placement. Fail.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

no I got it....I laughed!

you didn’t fail! (so harsh…I hate that word, fail)

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

reminds me of

some of my engineering classes :(

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

or at least the tests

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know if I feel outnumbered or anything

And I certainly don’t feel abused. Its all good. I do think a majority of the regular writers/posters are definitely on the stats side of the debate, but so be it. Sometimes the rhetoric gets ratcheted up over topics where the stats/traditional view can be disputed on both sides, and that’s the way it should be. And sometimes its just fun to argue. I wouldn’t be here if all I read was what I already thought.

by Teekalong on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe the crux of the problem is this:

Stats folks view baseball in objective terms — i.e. you can judge a player’s value clearly based on statistical breakdowns.

Non-stats folks (I guess I fall in this realm) view baseball in subjective terms — e.g. he’s got great stuff; if he fixes that loop in his swing he’ll be an all-star; he plays hard and is a winner; he’s “clutch”.

Of course, there’s a cross over. Statheads often make subjective observations, an non-statheads do look at stats.

The conflict often stems, from my point of view, from statheads feeling as if they own the “truth” because they have the numbers, and non-statheads chafing at this position. For example, as someone who watched almost every game, the vehemence with which the sabermetrics folks argued for Ianneta over Torrealba just made no sense. I saw both guys play game after game and it was really, really obvious to me which one needed to be in there down the stretch. Are there statistics that could be used to contradict this? Sure. And so sabermetricians, who believe they have objective truth on their side, don’t accept my position. And I, who formed an educated opinion from observing the games up close, can’t accept theirs.

Where dealing with nothing less than a right brain vs. left brain battle, and there’s unlikely to be a resolution. So might I suggest that we just continue to discuss and debate as respectfully as we can, and that we strive to maintain a balance of opinion on this site.

by BroJB on Oct 19, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions 7 recs

THIS!!! Standing Ovation!!!!

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very well said...

I think the majority of the anger stems from the Iannetta vs. Torrealba debate, which seems very ridiculous to some of us, but seems to be jammed down our throats by the strictly numbers people.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

seems to be jammed down our throats by the strictly numbers people

Is a pretty unfair statement.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about...

despite watching Torrealba show that he was the better choice down the stretch, the stat heads (who seem enamored with Iannetta for one pretty good season) continued to insist that he was the better choice…

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep, that's a banning

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

huh?

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.purplerow.com/2009/10/17/1088910/saturday-rockpile-will-we-be#23007997

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I missed this earlier

thanks for the heads up RMN

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Too bad Sandlotkid8 had to be the sacrificial lamb

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

PR's

loss

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Russ' call

this is like the gladiator arena

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought that was just in reference

to yesterday’s thread?

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

it said until Spring Training, did it not?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it did

Good lord, it’s going to be a long offseason. We can’t even talk about our catchers!

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure we can.

We may just have to go over to the Snake Pit to do it.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats awesome

But everything will have a k in front of it.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If there is a trade we will all get banned

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh right I forgot about that..

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I meant

was that the vehemenence and arguments were coming from both sides that blaming the current climate on one side of the argument is pretty unfair and disrespectful.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's over, stop.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. I'm done.

Just finished reading the rest of that thread.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

I actually just rec’d your comment.
As someone who falls on the other side of the debate I can agree with most of this.
Although I can guarantee you that folks like RMN, PF, mkorpal, myself, etc…all do actually watch and attend as many games as possible and do form opinions not purely based on “numbers and math”.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's a question...

When a player does not perform according to the statistics, positively or negatively, what kind of judgment is made about the player, from a “stathead” perspective?

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Frequently

the judgment is that the player is not playing to his normal standards (set by the statistics) and thus he will either improve or fall back. The question becomes when will such change happen and here is where things get hairy. No one can truly predict when something will happen but they can suggest that it will based on “evidence” they have.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right...

and I did point out that it’s not a black and white issue. Statheads watch ballgames and make subjective observations, non-statheads refer to stats and make objective observations.

In the end though, we each have out official fallback positions, which tend to be in line with our objective vs. subjective inclinations.

by BroJB on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you have those backwards?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I sacrificed clarity for brevity, so I'll restate:

Statheads do sometimes watch ballgames and make subjective observations, non-statheads do sometimes refer to stats and make objective observations.

That should be clearer. Thanks for the heads up.

by BroJB on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, lacking the tone of voice, hard to read

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to join a fight that I'm not a part of...

but at some point when there are several different people who feel that they are attacked if they disagree with the “stat heads” then there has to be some legitimacy to it. Maybe people are sensitive to it, or maybe they are overreacting to a sense of a tone, but the leaders of this page have to realize that as the people who run this page, there can be a sense of elitism that you aren’t meaning there to be…
I don’t know if that makes sense, but my main point is that sometimes, intentional or unintentional, there seems to be a “we are right because we know more about baseball than you do” attitude from some of the people who run this site. I am sure it is unintentional, but I think you should be aware.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know nothing

about baseball.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 3:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

and I think sarcastic comments...

like that are sometimes tough to tell the tone of…are you dismissing my comment? Are you just trying to be funny? Are you being serious, that you honestly feel that you know very little about baseball? The tone is hard to understand.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it was meant to be funny

and was

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

good points...

snark for the sake of snark…doesn’t always add to the discussion. And often ends the discussion, but perhaps that is the intent?

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funny and serious.

I just have a long memory for my comments. This is all really about that noble dream. That’s all it is, a noble dream. Even if we try to use numbers to be objective, we’re still being subjective in how we use them. Hence, I know nothing about baseball now; I’ll know something about it a few years down the line when we can make a judgement, albeit subjectively masked as objectivity.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 3:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

not to join a fight that I'm not a part of

but I’m gonna type a giant paragraph that puts me squarely in the middle of the fight

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was trying to apologize for jumping into an argument...

that I was not involved in previously…basically apologizing for doing what I was about to do.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

P.S.

You are a dick.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Flagg'd

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks...

Comments like that RMN’s are exactly what I was referring to…You guys run this site…statements like that come across extremely demeaning.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

yeah, I can be

and I’m getting entirely tired of people insulting each other because we have different methods of evaluating the game of baseball. Your post didn’t help in the slightest.

Best of luck to you.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was making the point that...

sometimes the people who run this page come across very arrogant, I said it in the post twice that I think it may just be a perception, but that you guys should be aware of it.

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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boy I wish we had won Game 4

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have not been here that long but have never gotten that impression

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me neither.

http://twitter.com/blakebomber

by BlakeBomber on Oct 19, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have never felt that way

I have seen every person welcomed with open arms. Now, when someone starts to act out, well, it can get ugly quick. But as long as you follow the rules and engage in civilized debates.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've not been here all that long

but I think during the pennant chase and the playoffs, I think the tone became much more adversarial.

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe a bit

Although it was difficult to sort things out with the massive amount of traffic that we had.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"A bit"?

It’s quite significant in my view. Enough to have made me cut down my time spent here significantly, at least.

by WolfMarauder on Oct 20, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I think people got really on edge and have not really calm down after game 4 yet.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Examples.

It’s easy going around to make blanket statements because it makes everyone go on the defensive.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 4:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think....

we tend to spend more time here fretting about getting too adversarial than actually being too adversarial.

Personally, I don’t might a bit of rough and tumble as long as it doesn’t get disrespectful And really, I can’t recall that line being crossed here to any great extent.

Busting chops is a time honored part of talking sports. As long as it’s done with a smile, I’m OK with it.

And really, compared to the vast majority of sports-related forums, this is as friendly a place as there is.

by BroJB on Oct 19, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

...dont "mind" a bit of rough and tumble....

by BroJB on Oct 19, 2009 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like your attitude

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

One thought

as someone who has bought in to much of the value of stat analysis (though not completely) I still don’t get the love for BABIP. Leaving aside how incredibly imperfect the raw numbers that drive the stat are (no difference between texas leaguer or rope off the wall), isn’t this really only a tool for long-term projection or historical analysis? I mean, we always hear that someone’s BABIP is “unsustainable” but it never seems to work itself out in a short term. I.e., its fair to say that Player X with BABIP of .400 is probably not going to maintain that stat for his career…but he might for an extended period of time, like say for an entire playoff push in September. And, therefore, trying to make short-term decisions based on the stat seems to me to be pretty reckless.

I don’t know if my critique here makes sense. I think the stat is somewhat useful from a 30,000 feet prospective. Just curious why some folks are so devoted to it. Legitimately interested in reasonable debate on this, not trying to flame.

by Teekalong on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't love BABIP

but it’s just kind of a good indicator of when a guy is hotter than just hot, or colder than just cold.

Then again, I don’t need litmus paper to know that acid’s going to burn me.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

its more of a small piece of analysis

That shouldn’t stand alone. It may supplement thoughts you see with your eyes or supplement other stats. But it doesn’t say a whole lot valuable, especially if you don’t look at the line drive rates etc associated with it

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

about BA

BA is one stat. Only one, that tells how a player is playing. During the argument between Redhawk and others (I side with Redhawk BTW), the discussion turned to "BA doesn’t account for the difference in hits, only that hits were made. Admittedly, that is a paraphrase of the actual post, but I’m too lazy to look up the correct quote. On the surface, the statement is correct, but by looking at SLG% a more accurate representation of the production of the batter is attained.
OBP? A BB is never as good as a hit, yet OBP treats them both the same, and also devalues extrabase hits, but most overlook that fact. OPS gets it right IMO.

To define how I look at stats, I will point this out. I like reading DavidOhno’s posts. They tend to mix observations in with stats in a way that makes sense. To correlate the two philosphies is the key to understanding baseball. Sabr people lose that fact IMO.

BTW, David hasn’t approved this message, but I did stay at a HolidayInn last night… :)

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by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

“ops gets it right, IMO”
“a walk is never as good as a hit”
I hear you put here. That’s why I don’t understand your statement
“woba? Who cares?

Simplistically, woba is the same concept as ops, except it values a hit less than a single, which as you noted, is incorrectly forgotten in obp, and by consequence, ops. From your fundamental base of understanding, I think you ought to reconsider woba. It is essentially ops, only improved some

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

typo

It values a walk (not hit) as less than a single. It also changes weights with slugging, as a double is not quite twice as valuable as a single

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 1:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I charted OPS vs wOBA for the season at one point

there is really almost no difference, provided you understand the scaling. You can use OPS and wOBA interchangeably, wOBA is just slightly more accurate.

Linear weights are awesome.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

it wont really make much difference in most cases

But it sure will if you’re comparing guys with the same ops, yet one with a high obp/low slg vs one with a low obp/high slg

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 4:50 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

compare two .800 OPS guys

I was disappointed that they didn’t have more different wOBA’s

If I recall correctly, the differences really show up once you get beyond .900-.950 OPS, into the elite OPS levels.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

your username is so ironic

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've had it since

scout and through fanhome with roxpert, BRJ/rotorox,heltonfan etal. Its been a few years, through the times when there was progress in getting better, and I don’t see any need in changing it.

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well,

Observation is good and all if you see every pitch in every game played. But, if you can’t, then you need the stats to asses a players value. Without looking at a single stat, tell me if Brian Roberts is a better option than Clint Barmes, and who was better at earning their salary. Or tell me if Chacin is the better prospect, or is it Friedrich.

And it’s not like they have pulled the stats out of their ass. WwOBA gives every plate appearance by a player a specific value depending on the outcome. It’s not quite made up (well, maybe the weight of the outcome, but it’s generally accepted that a homerun is more valuable than a strikeout)

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell me about what the stats say

about a clubhouse cancer like Milton Bradley?

Based on stats only, most here want to get rid of Hawpe. Then the club, via the sportswriters, lets fans know that they value Hawpe’s clubhouse leadership, which cannot be quantified.

See the problem now? There are a lot of things about baseball that stats don’t cover, but statheads want to make their teams up using stats alone…
Its one variable, but its not the only variable.

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

and most GMs recognize that

yeah, stats guys are going to build their teams based on production and numbers. Dusty Baker is going to build his team based on scrap and hustle and speed and stick-to-it-iveness.

GMs balance the viewpoints and take it all into consideration.

The issue is that even though Stats aren’t the only variable, they are still a very important one, and to dismiss them is just as foolish as to claim them as the end-all and such.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another thought on stats

how much of the models were built on the steroid-era game, and how does that affect things going forward?

I think of this particularly in terms of OPS, where the big hits are maximum rewards and the PHLP-style “speed game” is marginalized. Also, of course, pure BA is marginalized. I wonder if regression from so many dudes crushing so many bombs will impact the view on OPS, with additional value being placed on “manufacturing” runs?

Again, just thinking out loud.

by Teekalong on Oct 19, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

As usual, it depends

Let’s be straight here—there are huge differences between individuals when it comes to use of stats. Some of the biggest abusers of stats are traditional sportswriters. (Never mind that a lot of the most active SABR members are very much NOT stat guys, and are more historians and biographers.)

So, how does the influence of the so-called steroid era influence things? It depends on the person. Just because someone is in to stats doesn’t mean they’re good at accounting for context.

Likewise, just because someone was playing/following baseball when the Cardinals were said to be running their way to pennants doesn’t mean they’re a good judge of context, and have a good grasp on the relative merits of the running game or bunts/hit and run plays.

FWIW, a lot of the usual bits of “stathead orthodoxy” came from guys like Pete Palmer and Bill James, who were doing their work before the steroids era. James was a huge Whitey Herzog fan, in fact, so he’s well aware of those 80’s Cardinals teams.

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Oct 19, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clarification

So, to be clear…the models were NOT built on the stats of the steroid era, they were built of data from a lot of eras (the work was largely done in the 70’s and 80’s. If they’re decent models, they work (or fail to work, depending on your point of view) in multiple eras. Good models can account for changing contexts (“run environments,” in the lingo).

Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!

by FooMan on Oct 19, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be interested to see how the linear weights adjust

for strike – 2003, and 2004-current (2004 being an arbitrary cutoff)

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only thing OBP claims to be able to explain

is how often a player doesn’t make an out.

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes....I know....

not sure where this was going…

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well it was being discussed above

in the context of “OBP is a dumb stat cos it weighs a walk and a hit the same”, which is obviously not the most valid way of viewing the stat. Since the conversation was interminable and seems to end here, I just tacked my comment on the end. Nothing to do with your post, fella :)

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 4:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah no worries

I was gonna say “Why are you telling me this, Bio? I’m pretty sure I told YOU this”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Once I was the pupil

Now I am the master.

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

good work on trying to start a Stats attack though.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

you’re welcome.

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is just shameful

Call the site www.firetroyrenck.com if that’s your mission statement instead of operating on that ruse title. I didn’t see anything worthwhile there

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 19, 2009 11:06 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Mr Renck a tiny bit of proof reading would catch stuff like this and possibly bring your articles up to the level of the merely worthless. A little proof reading might prevent you from writing "Eugenio Velez’s sacrifice lead widened the bulge to 3-0." or Houston Street "will throw the bull pen"

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's it. We need Dallas Braden.

This Houston Street fellow just isn’t doing it.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

holy crap

WE HATE RENCK

they’re all the most tickytack criticisms as well. “wah wah you didn’t write exactly what I wanted to see you’re a hack Rench get out of my newspaper!”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

look at all the vitriol

towards the announcers (and yes, I think its deserved…). That happens in every city I’ve lived in.
Well, except LA (where I’ve never lived BTW), because no one can attack Vin Scully.
And yet, there is some young guy that probably does just that…

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 19, 2009 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I once met Vin Scully in an elevator

And yes, he had an aura about him, in person. I’m not sure his feet were touching the ground. And he even smelled dignified.

Weird.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vin Scully is a baseball God

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where else would you learn

that Vin Scully smells good. Love it.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wish he would do/have done

books on tape. His voice is so soothing.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

THIS...he should do tapes for those with

sleeping problems. Not because he is boring but because he’s mellifluous…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had to look that one up.

I think i’m going to add that to the rotation.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol...add to the rotation

I like it…:)

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anybody watching the ALCS game...?

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I will be

once this movie is over. My roommate is also unemployed.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone want a separate thread for that?

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

only if you think its required...

I’ll probably poke my head in over at Halo Heaven from time to time…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I aimed

to have a discussion thread for each playoff game, but maybe when we get to the World Series.

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

no worries here...

I’ve seen a couple of Rowbots over at Halo Heaven…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oops

\fires up GameDay

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gosh, just think, if the Rocks

had made the NLCS we might have finally gotten an ad of our very own.

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

perchance to dream

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

next year...!!!

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Feel like I have to share this

Courtesy of Jim McLennan:

As recently as 1995, the Yankees were pulling in only 23,360 per game. But as soon as they started winning, the Yankee fans started crawling out from under rocks. Those aren’t “fans” – those are the baseball equivalent of Jonas Brothers groupies.

Made me laugh. He has some more colorful things to say that I won’t repost here.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Lol...that's funny...

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do they check at the turnstiles for purity rings?

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 19, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a guy Huston is!

I read this in the paper yesterday and was really impressed! (I don’t think this has been posted here yet.)

by rockies31 on Oct 19, 2009 3:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow...Huston is just ...wow..

if we don’t re-sign we be fools…

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

we have him

under control next year but IF we don’t sign him to a 3-4 year deal I will be very displeased. I realize he has an injury history but he works as hard as, if not harder than, anyone to come back and be the best he can. He takes responsibility for his mistakes. KEEP HIM AROUND A WHILE PLEASE!!

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kiszla is the worst...

Reading the article he still wishes that the Rockies hadn’t traded Matt Holliday…did he not watch the games? Did he not realize that the Rockies fleeced the A’s in that trade? Sure the Rockies could have used a right handed slugger in the playoffs, but without Carlos Gonzalez the Rockies would have needed someone who could get a freaking hit.

Check out my website...www.rockiesreview.com

by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just watching the ALCS

The stupid Angels have scored 4 runs in 26 innings (pretty much 3 games). The Yankee pitching is not that good.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

There you go Howie!! woot

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I must be a jinx because he hit that HR about 4 seconds after I posted that comment

At least it worked in my favor

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

keep jinxing then

(and start doing this for the Rockies next season)

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought of that but it only seems to work when I don't do it intentionally

I’ll try anyway.

The Angels hitting is dreadful.
ARod is locked in at the plate.
Yankee starters are unhittable
The Yankees bullpen will never blow this lead

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Angels tie it 3-3

Vlad with a 2-run 2-out homer.

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOOT!! Vladdy isn't dead after all!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remember when

we played them in June. He had 1 HR and about 10 extra base hits all year. Looks like we jump-started him a little

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah maybe

But he really is on the decline. He had 10 straight years with an OPS of at least .934. (1998-2007) Last year he was at .886 and this year he was at .794

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh I know

but he’s gotten better this year from the time we faced him. I’m just trying to give the Rockies credit for doing something that is still working today.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

Since we faced the Angels Vlad has a .305 average and an .860 OPS so he has gotten better.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope this place isn't like this until March!

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Good God, so do I

if we just had Brian McCann this would never have happened.

I blame….I don’t know. I blame us for not having Brian McCann.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mauer is better

Just look at his wO… Who is there. What, no officer, I was going to say wO… Aggggg ouch holy ^&%&. Please sir, I won’t say wO

……………………………………….

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL...that's funny..

Soooo, really this is all Joe Mauer’s fault for not being a Rockie?

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh man Mauer is better

oh man he is

I just got to watch McCann in the WBC, so I have a personal thing for him as well.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

So wait, we can ALL agree that

Mauer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other catcher who cannot be named?

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

good night yes we can

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we can not agree on that

I may just walk away from PR forever.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Should've been an all-star

too many Molinas

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

far too many

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sooo completely unrelated random question

I’m tempted to doff my Broncos shirt and go to a sports bar here in town, to watch the Broncos-Chargers….my question to you is….do you think I’ll be hurt if do that?

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Would people in SD even notice?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you mean San Diego, the Chargers are all they have...and they get nasty..

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

What?

They have the Pad… Oh, right.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus tonight is really a must win game for them if they are thinking about winning that division

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depends on which town you talking about

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

San Diego...its where I live

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see.

Go for it. I got yo back.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool

How is Diego anyway? It’s on my list of potential cities to live in post graduation.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its close to perfect

Except for housing is expensive, and jobs are tight, but the weather is wonderful. Good nightlife, beaches are fantastic.

Downside, its not Colorado…:)

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats true

At least the Rockies come to town often. At least more often then Boston or something like that

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, if I had more money and a job,

I would have gone to every game when they came to play. But I did go to 2 games this year. Of course the 22 inning game made up for 3!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

GO CHARGERS!!!

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boo.

Not that I care that much. Farve in a Viking Uni makes my football heart cry.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Troll

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Oct 19, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

GO CARDINALS

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

But do it anyway.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

:(

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant that in a

“Denver pride” kind of way, not a “I want you to get hurt” kind of way.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol fair enough!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pork loin, burgers, hotlinks, jalepeno cheddar elk sausage, bacon wrapped scallops and wild alaskan salmon on the grill here.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yum!!!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

cool, I'll be down in like 45 minutes

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't even like football

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

you had me at...food

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

he likes free food

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

4-3 Angels!

by biondino on Oct 19, 2009 4:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

woot!!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOOOOO

I’m watching Babel.

I just got past the Japanese “American Beauty” scene.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

really

Kind of creepy stuff at the end of that movie.

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh man

it is a little weird right now

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you have like studying or something to do

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

grad school you idiot

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know.

I went to grad school. It was way harder than undergrad. And yo

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

cutoff

And you are an engineer to boot.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

how miserable are the salmon boats

I’d love to clean up some student loan debt

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

and I might need a job...

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're not so bad

Hopefully i’ll have my own in a year.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha

here come the Halo’s

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How come Joba's not doing his fist pump dance on the mound?

Haha fatso

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to fist pump

when you are using it to wipe away tears…

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

he fistpumps after getting donuts

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or when he captures Han Solo

by mkorpal on Oct 19, 2009 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs

hahahahahhahahhahahah

reccin dis

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

THIS

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm out

gonna watch some baseball

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Oct 19, 2009 5:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

rock n roll

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This Angel bullpen is driving me nuts

You can’t walk the first guy after a rally like that

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Great pitch out execution!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank God for that

The Yankees would have the lead without that pickoff

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

And they give up the HR right back...gah

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

just noticed this on ESPN

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

You're gonna make SDCat cry

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would that make me cry?

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like CarGo! I think he should start! just not in RF :)

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant

that our guy was leading the playoffs in BA still, and we weren’t in it.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ohhh....I did not get that..

but now I am crying…and thanks…lol

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It AIN"T RIIIGHT!!!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I assume that was for the playoffs?

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeahhhhhh

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

If it wasn't Boras would be demanding a $50 million/per year contract

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

no kidding!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

it might be worth it

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I expect a piece on that by next week

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Caaarrrrlllloosssss

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blech ....Posada..

and why are there so many annoyingly loud Yankee fans there…

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Yankee fans are like insects

They are everywhere

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yankee fans are like ~~insects~~ cubs fans

fixed for you

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

No man

Yankee fans are more arrogant and have more of a sense of entitlement than Cub fans. Cub fans are more hopeless and pitiful.

But both are obnoxious and annoying.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

and show up everywhere

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That too

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey RMN

I can still get to the comments you deleted if I go to my page and click on recent comments I have made.

I don’t know why but it makes me feel powerful

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

hahah ooooooohhh

RIR has the system beaten!!!

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jepsen out of that mess

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Why must every Yankee opponent's brain turn to mush?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

The Yanks glamour them...

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the

Jonas Brother factor.

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Abreau

FAIL

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Fuentes Pitching

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

IBB to A Rod?

interesting

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Instead of wastng four pitches I would just throw one at him

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha good call

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't watch

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet this game is gonna have a really high rating

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 5:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey bulger, this is a good place to not walk a guy

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

punchouts make up for 3-0 counts

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOOOOOOO MATHIS

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

woot!!! I thought that was outta there..

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I did too!

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

C'mon Aybar

Make up for your defense in this series

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

His defense hasn't been that bad...

Izturis…different story.

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know

Standing there with Figgins during that popup in game one and never touching the bag in extra innings of game 2

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

but would you take him over Barmes (:V)

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

nope

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha, me neither

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

HOLY CRAP Rivera throws it away!!!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I love when NL baseball messes with AL teams

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

heheheheheeeeeee

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Time for Mo to strike out the side

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

nope

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

You’re probably right though

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mark Teixeira is good at baseball

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

meh

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

would you take him over Helton?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

are we accounting for salary?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

absolutely yes

I love Todd Helton, you know I love Todd Helton, but I would take Teixeira every day and twice on Sunday. His overall game is better than Helton’s, and a lot of that is because Helton is 36.

In their primes? That’s a much tougher conversation to have.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

in their primes..I'd still take Helton...

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I might as well

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a great question though

Could spark a debate that could rage for hours if you include age and salery too.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

this might cause more controversy

than the debate that cannot be named

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it'd be fun

nobody here has nearly as much personal attachment to Mark Teixeira

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is an excellent point

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only concern would be that anyone picking Teixeira

might touch every nerve on the site.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

A few people did vote for the Yankees in the World Series poll

This will allow us to find out who they are

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Except me,

and I don’t argue.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

you should

I’d be oh so amused.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

provided it can rage in a friendly way

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is that Pat Sajak behind home plate in the dugout thing?

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like

to hear the conversations he had Boras, if any.

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would you like to buy a pitcher?

Would you like to buy a vowel?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to buy a run

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's not go there

The Yankees will outbid everyone like they always do

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

party pooper

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

whoa--taking out Damon

and giving up the DH? weird

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

defensive move

Girardi giving himself every possible opportunity

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is embarrassing for Damon

Shows you how bad his arm is

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

just a base hit Torii!!!!!

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

hell, lean into one

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

crap Torii

Let’s go Vladdy!!

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

FAAAIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL

see that’s an EPIC FAIL

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

that would have qualified as EPIC

if the Yankees had done it…

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

So if that's EPIC FAIL

What do we consider the Yankees 2004 ALCS

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

well what a big ole waste of baserunners that was

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

FRANCISCO CERVELLI

I watched this guy in the WBC

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

this year?

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, back in March

Team Italia!

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

WBC.............

I try to forget that exists.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked the WBC!

Go Netherlands!

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought the whole thing was a joke

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was really, really into it

it’s a shame people thought it was stupid.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I enjoyed it quite a bit.

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

those games between Korea and Japan

and the fans…CRAZY

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't remember every problem I had with it but I never bought into the National Pride thing.

When the D.R. lost people said the country was devistated. If it mttered so much how come Albert the best player in baseball Pujols was not on the team.

Plus if it’s National Pride, how come ARod can decide on a whim which team he was going to play for. (D.R. or U.S.)

There was also some rule about how if it got to the 12th the innings would start with runners on first and second. Can you imagine if today’s game in the 12th started with runners on first and sencond.

That does not even get into injuries and how players are used.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't disagree

I love the concept. The execution just needs work.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

A lot of work

Sorry if I’m coming off as snappy but the WBC is a sore spot of mine.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, it's fine, you're allowed to not like it

I wish everyone had more national pride, or there was a way to do it so that the players weren’t being all used up by the end of the season.

and/or Davey Johnson wasn’t managing team USA

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

more the latter in my opinion

I also wish the players would play if they are asked.

JFK

by jrockies on Oct 20, 2009 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, this is huge

I understand injury, etc. But I do think USA tossed out a pretty decent team, even if they were played totally wrong.

My USA alignment was:

C: McCann/Iannetta, the platoon was fine and fair.
1B: Youkilis
2B: Brian Roberts (although I didn’t expect Pedroia to suck as much as he did, I was ok with him from the getgo)
SS: Jeter
3B: Wright
LF: Braun
CF: Grandy/Victorino, again, no problems with either here
RF: DeRosa/Victorino
DH: Dunn

When injury struck, I wanted

C: Same
1B: Jeter – suck it up, big guy, we need someone who can field
2B: Roberts
SS: Rollins
3B: Same
LF: Same
CF: Same
RF: Same
DH: Dunn

DHing Rollins was simply unacceptable.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 20, 2009 1:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on Angels!!! Just FINISH IT ALREADY!

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Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Ack! My DVR and remote are going to burn out

Between this game, the NLCS and the Broncos game….

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

You need another TV

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have one but

no digital converter…

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see

That’s a problem

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah and I'm not real inclined to

go through the headache…so its all good

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Robertson looks like he's 18

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow Howard is redonkulous

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Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

That was outside!

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

oh and ignore the little box with the pitch on the outside, FOX....gah

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mmmmm...

scallops just went on the grill…

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is anyone feeling a 22 inning game?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess the Angels weren't :)

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good thing to

They need to be able to play tomorrow

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ballgame Over! Yankees lose!

THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!!!!

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

YESSS

by Hizilla on Oct 19, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

this makes me happy

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

/sad panda

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poor russ

He’s had a busy evening.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

hahahahahahahahaha

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by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

whoops...sorry didn't mean to put that there..

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Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or did you?

Be careful you might get banned :)

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

No really, it was a reply fail

I meant that hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa but meant to reply to you

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Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know

It was just funny because if you wanted insult the people who run the site without getting in trouble that would be a good way to do it.

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone can insult me all they want.

If you’ve actually met me and start to insult me, that’s another issue.

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

but cheering against the Yankees is just good sense

not an insult :P

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha.

Well, my response isn’t meant to be serious, anyway.

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

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by Russ Oates on Oct 19, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know..:)

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wooo mathis

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 19, 2009 6:40 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

How did the Phils get their two runs?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Howard 2 run shot

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least 1

RBI in every post season game this year. What a beast

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Oct 19, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

like I said before redonkulous

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow nice of FOX to take some time interviewing the Angels...idiots

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Even TBS knows to do that

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was despicable really....

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You commit nearly five hours to the game

You can’t give five minuets for postgame?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's really horrible...and disrespectful to the Angels

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I bet if the Yankees would have won they would have waited 15 minuets for that stupid pie in the face.

I hope the Angels take that pie and shove it somewhere nice

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are exactly right...

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man I'm hungry, I need to get something to eat..

back later!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 7:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

See you later

Root for the Phils

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

looks like Dodgers are trying to win..

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep the Phils used up too many of their runs last night

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I heard TBS told Craig Sager to "take it down a notch" when it came to his attire.

I guess he’s not a good listener

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 7:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Just checked out the good Phight and it is nasty over there

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

HOLY CRAP !! PHILLIES WALK OFF!!!!

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 9:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

What a great day of baseball

Yankees and Dodgers lose in walkoffs!!!

ALLELUIA, ALLEUIA, ALLELUIA!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Angels sing on high

with the phillies phrantic in the background

JFK

by jrockies on Oct 20, 2009 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Think I should go over to TBLA and tell them I know how they feel?

I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 19, 2009 10:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

you could but they won't care...they are still too arrogant

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 19, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs