Friday Rockpile: Serious(?) Trade Proposals, Matzek Impresses, 2010 Projections
by Russ Oates on Oct 23, 2009 8:09 AM MDT
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Ralph Routon from the Indy (see sidebar):
Possible trade? Let's see, the Boston Red Sox may give up on closer Jonathan Papelbon, who turns 29 next month, and Colorado should be in the market after Huston Street's sad playoff ending. So how about Garrett Atkins for Papelbon?
Jonathan Papelbon puts Red Sox fans on edge this season and then blows a save in the playoffs. Enter youngster Daniel Bard--his replacement? Huston Street shut down traffic throughout the season and then had a bad ending in the postseason. He might get an extension with the Rockies. But trading Papelbon to the Rockies for Garrett Atkins? That's disadvantageous for the Red Sox and vindictive toward Papelbon. This trade must fall under one of the rules we came up with yesterday when hotstove-ing the Rockies in 2009-2010. But just for the sake of it, would any Rockies fan not want that deal done?
Inside the Colorado Rockies " Matzek Impresses In Instructional League
Tyler Matzek receives much praise for his performance in Instructional League so far, especially on how he's able to use a changeup compared to other pitchers at his age. Also to note, we may not see Matzek start the 2010 season in April when games begin so as to avoid the weather until it gets warmer.
Monfort brothers look back on 2009 season, ahead to future | Greeley Tribune
Much of the same stuff we've already heard.
BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Ask BA
In his latest Ask BA, Jim Callis answers two questions that involve Rockies. The first question was on how to rank the top 10 prospects among sons of former major leaguers. Eric Young Jr. comes in ninth, with Callis noting EY Jr. has 303 stolen bases in over 500 games. The other question is on which infielders from the last five draft classes would he choose to make up his infield. It's no contest at shortstop. Our boy Troy gets the call.
After the jump you can find out how Rockies hitters project in Bill James' 2010 projections.
I recently received a sneak preview of the Bill James 2010 projections. If you want, you can order the book at actasports.com. And thanks to RMN for converting the PDF pages into an Excel file to create a chart for it here.
| G | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | R | RBI | BB | SO | SB | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | |
| Todd Helton | 140 | 506 | 154 | 37 | 1 | 15 | 78 | 74 | 93 | 74 | 0 | .304 | .415 | .470 | .886 |
| Troy Tulowitzki | 146 | 556 | 162 | 32 | 5 | 27 | 99 | 89 | 66 | 98 | 15 | .291 | .371 | .513 | .883 |
| Brad Hawpe | 151 | 543 | 152 | 36 | 3 | 26 | 79 | 97 | 81 | 153 | 1 | .280 | .375 | .501 | .876 |
| Chris Iannetta | 113 | 386 | 100 | 23 | 3 | 20 | 58 | 68 | 60 | 92 | 0 | .259 | .370 | .490 | .860 |
| Seth Smith | 119 | 351 | 101 | 25 | 3 | 13 | 52 | 51 | 40 | 60 | 5 | .288 | .362 | .487 | .849 |
| Jason Giambi | 71 | 244 | 56 | 10 | 0 | 14 | 37 | 44 | 49 | 65 | 0 | .230 | .384 | .443 | .826 |
| Ian Stewart | 147 | 475 | 121 | 29 | 4 | 24 | 77 | 76 | 54 | 131 | 8 | .255 | .336 | .484 | .820 |
| Dexter Fowler | 135 | 451 | 130 | 32 | 9 | 6 | 79 | 43 | 66 | 104 | 28 | .288 | .380 | .439 | .819 |
| Carlos Gonzalez | 143 | 515 | 144 | 35 | 7 | 19 | 78 | 73 | 41 | 107 | 18 | .280 | .334 | .485 | .819 |
| Ryan Spilborghs | 116 | 310 | 90 | 21 | 2 | 8 | 48 | 43 | 34 | 58 | 8 | .290 | .362 | .448 | .811 |
| Garrett Atkins | 131 | 435 | 124 | 27 | 1 | 14 | 60 | 70 | 43 | 68 | 1 | .285 | .353 | .448 | .802 |
| Eric Young Jr. | 45 | 146 | 40 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 25 | 9 | 14 | 24 | 12 | .274 | .338 | .390 | .728 |
| Clint Barmes | 134 | 474 | 123 | 29 | 2 | 14 | 61 | 51 | 23 | 88 | 9 | .259 | .301 | .418 | .719 |
| Yorvit Torrealba | 75 | 253 | 64 | 15 | 1 | 4 | 27 | 32 | 20 | 49 | 1 | .253 | .315 | .368 | .683 |
Watch out! It's catcher debate time--or not. Other thoughts?
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Pabelbon is a tool and I don't want him on this team. Besides, he'd be yet another expensive reliever.
Eschew Obfuscation!
C'mon, you're not thinking
If you somehow pull off that trade, you do it. Papelbon has 2 pre-arb years left but will still be expensive for the Rockies, so if you understandably don’t want him for the Rockies, you trade him to a 3rd team. Instead of non-tendering Atkins and getting nothing, you will get something. If for some reason the universe goes crazy and you can’t make any trades, you just non-tender Papelbon and wash your hands of it.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
If I knew Atkins would hit according to his projection,
I wouldn’t want to trade him for Papelbon.
Jabbs is right, that guy is a grade-A douchebag.
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Oct 23, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm gonna hop in here
And agree that I want no part of Papelbon
by controlled_slide on Oct 23, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
If I ever met the guy in person, I think I’d punch him in the face. Probably unprovoked. Just because he’s Jonathan Papelbon.
But I’d still do it in a FooMan scenario. As long as Papelbon doesn’t actually throw a pitch for us, all is well.
I know, I was being a little facetious. I would be thrilled to get Papelbon for Atkins--though I'd prefer flipping him immediately.
It’s better than the alternative.
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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 23, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd be thrilled to get a bag of baseballs, 4 bats, and a case of Cracker Jack
for Garrett Atkins.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
yep
A 3B that can’t field his position and who’s bat slowed down.
Big demand for those…
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Oct 23, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
I just really like Cracker Jack
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I'd trade Atkins for Papelbon so fast.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
So would I....
Papelbon has alot more value than Atkins. Then we can just trade Papelbon for players we do need.
by Colsportsfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 PM MDT up reply actions
It's interesting that James projects Atkins to be semi-useful this year...
and Seth Smith is projected to have about the same amount of ABs as Ryan Spilborghs. Again.
If Hawpe does that next year I’ll be a happy camper, but he’ll still probably be our fourth best outfielder when defense is factored in.
Eschew Obfuscation!
The projection doesn't make much sense
unless they’ve drastically revised the park factors up or something.
career, entering 2009: .298 .360 .474
2008, actual: .286 .328 .452
projection for 2009 ..297 359 .473 (at least, that’s what fangraphs lists for the Bill James projection)
career, entering 2010: .289 .354 .457:
projection for 2010: 285 .353.448
The BJames projection seems to want to regress Atkins towards career norms no matter how bad his most recent season was.
A marcel type projection for just the last 3 years (5/4/3 weighting), without regression, would be around .273 / .334 / .430.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Quintanilla, Reynolds, and Greg Smith for...
Josh Johnson and Dan Uggla. Maybe we can sweeten the pot with Chris Frey.
also alan johnson
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Wacky offseason idea?
That might be the understatement of the year. It’s hard to believe that is actually in print.
That wouldn't be terrible
if the braves weren’t looking for a righty. Not sure the money would work either, they’re kind of on a budget too.
What about Bobby Jenks in Coors Field?
Pretty good GB%. Money could work vis a vis Hawpe’s salary, but would be a lot to pay a second closer/set up guy. Nevertheless, if they’re going to pay Betancourt $5M, I’d rather see Jenks make a couple mill more.
The guy who wrote that Street should go because of the ALDS is a fool. Should the Yankees have gotten rid of Rivera after the ’01 WS? Should they get rid of Hughes now?
Maybe we could send them Barmes for Hughes?
Personally I’d rather hold out for Sabathia, but so far he doesn’t have the requisite bad postseason outing to make that (apparently) worthy of putting into words.
by Junction Rox on Oct 23, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't think about that regarding Johnson,
but I think it’d be a great move for the Rockies if they could nab him from the Braves for a decent prospect.
D'backs top prospect Jarrod Parker to have Tommy John surgery
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091022&content_id=7527882&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
I actually truly do feel bad for them. It sucks to lose a prospectt like that.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 9:42 AM MDT reply actions
I feel bad for the kid. If he doesn't come back strong, he's in a pickle
So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!
-Lloyd
by squalene203 on Oct 23, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
He can talk to Casey Weathers about the comeback
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I'm gonna bet the over for Tulo on average, HR's, and OPS
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 9:43 AM MDT reply actions
Absolutely!
160+ long days till we meet again...
by prettyinpurple on Oct 23, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Love the title of this article
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke22-2009oct22,0,7118038.column
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions
According to Plachke
O Dog is history in LA
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
H'is defense is declining and would cost a first round draft pick
I’ll pass.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions
It only costs a pick if they offer him arb
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Right, forgot about that
I really doubt that the Dodgers don’t offer him arb though.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions
That article was very in-depth
and I loved it. Matzek seems like something special. I hope they don’t waste too much of his time in the minors. I love a guy that will pound people in, I get sick of getting beat on fastballs on the outside over and over again. I remember the comparisons of Friedrich to Cliff Lee and then I think of Matzek, we have some left handed arms to get real excited about now.
Rox, please start playing with heart! Let's finish this thing off!
Frothing at the mouth
getting really excited for Matzek…The 2012 rotation is looking really solid
Expanding the projection
I ran the quick-and-dirty wOBA – which is found by (1.8*OBP+SLG)*multiplier (which I found to be .327305) – on all the projections above so now we have another stat to look at yayyyyyy (I’d have done the component wOBA but seeing how we’re lacking RBOE and PA I kind of can’t)
Name ~~~~~~~~~AVG~~OBP~~SLG~~OPS~~wOBA
Todd Helton ~~~~.304~~.415~~.470~~.886~~.398
Troy Tulowitzki ~~.291~~.371~~.513~~.883~~.386
Brad Hawpe ~~~~.280~~.375~~.501~~.876~~.385
Chris Iannetta ~~~.259~~.370~~.490~~.860~~.378
Seth Smith ~~~~~.288~~.362~~.487~~.849~~.373
Jason Giambi ~~~.230~~.384~~.443~~.826~~.371
Dexter Fowler ~~~.288~~.380~~.439~~.819~~.368
Ryan Spilborghs ~.290~.362~~.448~~.811~~.360
Ian Stewart ~~~~~.255~~.336~~.484~~.820~~.356
Carlos Gonzalez ~.280~.334~~.485~~.819~~.356
Garrett Atkins ~~~.285~~.353~~.448~~.802~~.355
Eric Young Jr. ~~~.274~~.338~~.390~~.728~~.327
Clint Barmes ~~~.259~~.301~~.418~~.719~~.314
Yorvit Torrealba ~.253~~.315~~.368~~.683~~.306
Hope got in my eyes
That's one fine looking lineup...almost everyone above league average.
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by Jeff Aberle on Oct 23, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
this is why I raise my eyebrow so readily at any projections
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions
James' projections
are overly optimistic for batterrs usually.
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by Russ Oates on Oct 23, 2009 11:29 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's weird how
James’ are always overly optimistic, and all the others seem really really pessimistic.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
I think these projections are fun to look at
but how accurate are they?
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions
it varies
I raise my eyebrows
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I would think it would be more accurate for a guy like Todd who has more seasons of data work with
But by that point we already know what to expect from him unless he has an injury filled season like 2008
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
it's difficult to try and model a young player just based on MLE's and such
I don’t think you can quantify growth and development.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions
One of the things that makes baseball beautiful
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
re. CarGo
It’s because projections are working off past #‘s. And CarGo’s past numbers, both last year with Oakland, and MLE’s for his minor league numbers before 2009, are really bad.
He’s the toughest sort of player to project because he’s thought of as being better than his numbers due to his tools.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
that and his MLB career excepting the past 3 months has been very uninspiring
which is totally understandable for a young player. I don’t think projections know how to model breakout seasons.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 24, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice Indy link.
I write for them.
As for the deal, I’d take it. Don’t think it would happen, but it would probably rejuvenate Atkins, as these trades sometimes do, and Papelbon would be money in the bank (of course).
"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill
Thoughts on Atkins...
Obviously the suggestion of Papelbon for Atkins has never watched more than an inning of baseball, but I do wonder how much better Atkins will be next year. In postgame shows I can count at least five times when Tracy Ringolsby made comments about Atkins gaining weight in the off season and not being in good shape. He mentioned several times that he really missed out on Matt Holliday not pushing him in the weight room. I am guessing that Atkins is going to have a great 2010. He knows that he is going to have something to prove and will be in better shape than he ever has been. Instead of fouling off 92 MPH fastballs, he is going to be driving them again. There are going to be very many Rockies fans who wish we would have offered him arbitration if Stewart doesn’t turn the corner.
That said, he was the most frustrating member of the roster to me and offering him arbitration would be ludicrous, even if he does turn it around.
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hell of a catch-22, isn't it
8M is too much for a complete risk.
I question how much impact Holliday really had, as Atkins’ bat declined steadily from 2006.
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by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
His bat did decline...
but who would have predicted a drop off like ’09?
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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 23, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions
not nearly as drastic, but I was picturing 2008 levels or worse
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
to hell with the Ks; give stew 550 ABs next year and see what he can do
So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!
-Lloyd
by squalene203 on Oct 23, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree...
Very similar to Mark Reynolds, let the kid play and see what he does. I wouldn’t be too shocked to see him come close to 40 home runs.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 23, 2009 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions
And let him hit against lefties!!
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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 23, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Please, just let him play everyday
we are going to get frustrated w/ the K’s no doubt, but his power and D will be worth it. If he is able to shorten his stroke in the off season he could be even better than expected. He has the athleticism to be very special, I hope it all translates soon.
Rox, please start playing with heart! Let's finish this thing off!
BUT I HAVE PLATONS SO I WIL USE MY WHOL BENCH
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
If there is anyone on our team that can hit 40 Homeruns, Stewart is that guy.
The Future:
Smith LF
Fowler CF
CarGo RF
I think Tulo would hit 40 HR before Stewart
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
amusingly enough
you’re both right
Just based on this season, I looked at their HR/AB, and Tulo hit a homer every 5.89 AB.
Stewart hit a homer every 5.88 AB.
If Stewart can cut down the K’s, I think he has more raw power, he’ll get to 40 before Tulo will, but it’ll be close.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
OK RMN I trust you wholeheartedly when it comes to numbers but that information has to be wrong
If Stewart and Tulo were hitting HR’s every 5.88 and 5.89 AB’s they both would have shattered the Bond’s, or should I say Maris’s HR record.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh wait I see what you are saying
They hit HR in 5.88 and 5.89 percent of their AB’s.
My bad
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
hangon lemme double check those
no, my mistake, it’s 5.89 HR/100AB
durrrrr
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions
You did 32 HR/543 AB's to get a HR in 5.89 percent of AB's right?
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe
I’m terrible at this for some reason
32HR/543AB*100
so yeah maybe that’s it
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Maybe we should just do 543AB's/32 HR to get a HR every 16.97 AB's
Stewart by that measure hits a HR every 17 AB’s
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions
But But But.......
Tulo was two different players this year. Tulo before the stance chance was awful. Tulo after the stance change was a beast. In fact from June 8th on, Tulo was hitting a HR in 7.26 percent of his AB. If you project that out for his AB over the course of the entire season he hits exactly 40 this year.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions
if if's and but's were candy and nuts
we’d all have a merry christmas
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions
However looking at his entire body of work for 2009 is not as good of a predictor as just looking at his last four months.
Unless Tulo uses that open stance in April and May again
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
check out 2007
did the same thing
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by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:14 PM MDT up reply actions
He was a rookie in 07
Injured in 08
Changed his stance in 09
He is a slow started but with the current stance he has I think 40 HR’s is a real possibility
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
well sure
but just extrapolating a rate is probably not too accurate.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions
True
but I also don’t like using data that includes two months of a stance he no longer uses. I guess I just think he gets closer to 40 than the 27 projected here.
So Over/Under on Tulo’s 2010 HR Total: 33.5
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I'll reserve judgement
until after 2010. But, 3 years in a row now he has started slow and then turned it on in May/June, granted he was hurt for parts of 2008. There are enough other guys that have splits like that that it’s possible that he is just one of those guys that doesn’t get going right away.
I'll take the under on that
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by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions
over for me
I’m guessing 35
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Under...
I think if Tulo hits 25 home runs he would be a more complete player. Just like in game 3 and 4…don’t swing for the fences and get a base hit.
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Under
he hits 28
Mark it (2)8 dude.
"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker
this isn't vietnam
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 24, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree with this 100%
Just an average guy with exceptional hair. Nothing more, nothing less.
by Bryan Kilpatrick on Oct 23, 2009 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Barmes only strike out 88 times next year...
That would be excellent though seems far fetched
"The thing to remember is that if you put your heart into it, if you care, if it means something to you, it's going to hurt. I don't think I would want it any other way." - Huston Street
downside, only 94 ABs
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
No
474 AB’s
88 K’s
6 Hits
and 380 popups
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I think it was a joke.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 23, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
sorry...didn't read your whole post.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Oct 23, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I felt the same way
About Iannetta’s 90K’s in 113 games…seems low on the K’s to me. Probably about right on the games, assuming he’s the starter out of ST (big assumption).
not that big from what Renck and Ringolsby have told us
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by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I wish you'd just showed up for shrimp and baseball last night
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:54 PM MDT up reply actions
endless shrimp doesn't just grow on trees man
it’s over at the end of the month
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
hmmm, iannetta projects to play infinitely better than torrealba
aaaaaaand go.
So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!
-Lloyd
yep, that's a banning
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
http://www.purplerow.com/2009/10/17/1088910/saturday-rockpile-will-we-be#23007997
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1qyVjZnQkE
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
kinky
So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!
-Lloyd
by squalene203 on Oct 23, 2009 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Hmmmm, here's a random idea...
I was searching for potential bargain deals for a good righty bat (who is also a non-butcher in the field), and I found one potentially good option.
Andruw Jones?
We saw that he can still hit for power, and while his low average, high K may still drive us nuts, he may be a good power option, and was still around average at fielding according to UZR when he came into the Dodgers camp really overweight. Besides, wouldn’t you think he would want to stick it to the Dodgers?
I wonder what he would cost…..I think he could be had a couple million, maybe even less potentially if no one wants him.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
IF he plays
big IF, he’ll get a minor league invite from someone, but no guaranteed deal. We’ve got plenty of in shape, competent, good hitting, good defending outfielders to waste time on AJ.
What, he's thinking about retiring or something?
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions
what would we do with him
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Tracy's manager, so
platoon him with Seth Smith
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
I would have no issue starting him against lefties over Smith
Some of Smith’s at bats against lefties last year looked painful at times.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Righty power bat off bench
I would have absolutely no problem giving him a minor league contract
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I did the same
I came up with Rocco Baldelli.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Eh, he was supposed to be a good bargain deal last year, and be some good 4th outfielder
But he only was able to put up 150 AB in them, and wasn’t terribly impressive either (744 OPS). He has the talent to be really good though, so if he’s cheap it would be good.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions
the Rockies have been sniffing around Baldelli for years
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 24, 2009 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions
sniffing Baldelli...doesn't sound right...:(
Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!
Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!
Just listening to NY radio
All the Yankee fans think Mariano should have pitched in the 7th last night
Idiots
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 12:33 PM MDT reply actions
haha yea
i love listening to these callers every day coming home from work and even in the morning on boomer and carton haha
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Oct 23, 2009 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions
well, the 7th or the 8th
that was the turning point of the game, you want your best pitcher there
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Mariano could not have pitched three innings though
If Girardi brought him in for the 7th and the 8th and someone else blewit in the 9th he would be getting hammered.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
maybe not 3, but probably 2
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Oct 23, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree he would have gone two innings
Then the choice is 7 & 8 or 8 & 9.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I get it if Rivera goes out in the 7th inning if the series is 3-1
Angels, but I’m not going to burn my hall of fame closer (even with an off day) to clinch in game five when you are have two games at home to clinch.
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They should've done the combo of Joba/Hughes/Rivera last night
Girardi’s was an idiot for leaving Burnett in.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 23, 2009 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions
he had retired 17 of the last 20
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
If Helton has a higher OPS next year than Tulo
I will eat my shoe. And your shoe.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'm going to hold you to this.
size 14 leather sandle…mmmm tasty.
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 23, 2009 11:36 PM MDT up reply actions
sandal...I SPEL GUD
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Oct 23, 2009 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Helton should steal a base next year
just for kicks
So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah!
-Lloyd
He might need...
Torrealba behind the plate to accomplish that.
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Do it against the Red Sox in June
They can’t throw out anybody
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 23, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
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