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Sunday Rockpile: Jim Tracy is the man, man.

As you guys can probably tell by now, I must have a natural bias against baseball managers, so Troy Renck's points today about Jim Tracy probably help put me a little more at ease with his coming extension, but I'm still on my guard. Once again, I don't think Tracy had nearly as much to do with the Rockies turning around and winning the wild card this season as Troy Tulowitzki, Ubaldo Jimenez, Carlos Gonzalez  and the rest of the Rockies players did. That said, Tracy didn't get in the way of the talent on the team and blow the season in spite of it, a possibility that seemed very real at the beginning of the year under different leadership.

Still not much news about the Colorado Rockies (unless you count this article's lead sentence, by a writer who seemingly must have been around for Colorado's pre-Avs NHL team), so I'm going to give some bullets from the periphery that are a little more indirectly related:

Despite the recession, the Salt River reservation near Phoenix is booming. It's partly from stimulus money, but the reservation is also drawing investors looking to make a quick return. The Pima-Maricopa Indian Community has parlayed casino revenue into a diverse and dynamic economy.

One of those parlays is the development of the Spring Training complex that the Rockies and Diamondbacks are to share starting in 2011.

 

 

Unlike, say, the Colorado Rockies or the Minnesota Twins, two other post-season participants, the Yankees engender emotion – be it positive or negative.

 

 

Ouch. No, actually, the Rockies are making a lot of ground in the engendering emotion category this year. My friend who runs the fantasy league I participated in absolutely can't stand the Rockies anymore, and actually told me he would rather have had the Dodgers win the NLCS had the two teams met. Given that he's from the Bay area and a Giants fan, I was kind of surprised he was that bitter. This writer's East Coast bias doesn't allow him to see past the Hudson, but the Rockies Revolution is forcing baseball fans out West to pick sides.

 

NL West notes:

 

The two Dodgers articles give a glimpse into what our division's major competition plans for the offseason, and it doesn't seem to involve a lot of free agent spending, which is great news for the Rockies. As was the case in 2009, the Dodgers rotation could use a serious upgrade that doesn't seem likely to materialize. The Rockies should continue to make gains on LA if both teams remain pretty much intact heading into 2010.

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But all hate for

the Yankees is irrational. Am I a broken record yet?

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Oct 25, 2009 10:45 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

yes

and it doesn’t change the hate factor rational or not

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 25, 2009 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

in fact that article makes me hate the Yankees even more

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 25, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't hate the Yankees

I don’t love them, but I don’t dislike them, either.

but I HATE those stupid Red Sox.

by Rockie4Ever on Oct 25, 2009 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Fan = fanatic

which I’m pretty sure by definition is less-than-rational

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Oct 25, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

merriam webster defines fanatic-irrational is not one of the definitions

Main Entry: fa·nat·ic
Pronunciation: \fə-ˈna-tik\
Variant(s): or fa·nat·i·cal \-ti-kəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin fanaticus inspired by a deity, frenzied, from fanum temple — more at feast
Date: 1550 : marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion <they’re fanatic about politics>

Dear Rockies - 2009 NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season. Can't wait to do it again next year!!

Troy Tulowitzki - THE best SS in the game..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - En Fuego!! (when hitting 6th or 7th)
Brad Hawpe- Big Bad Brad, I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utley's in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Oct 25, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

When I hear New York Yankees I think of the word Fanarcissist

1. Fanarcissist :
 A big fan of his or her own self. An individual with a larger than life ego/self image. Someone with a way too high opinion of him/herself. Usually an only child totally spoiled by parents.

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by Charlie77 on Oct 25, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey

thats my biography…

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Oct 26, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't have to love the Yankees

and I hate how this writer make it seem like the Yankees are the only team capable of engender emotion. This writer can jump of the Brooklyn bridge for all I care. Go Angels. Go Rockies.

The Future:

Smith LF
Fowler CF
CarGo RF

by wolf213 on Oct 25, 2009 10:50 AM MDT reply actions  

A slow news day

The article about the Yankees is from a UAE newspaper

by WanderingRoxFan on Oct 25, 2009 12:52 PM MDT reply actions  

I wish the McCourts the best...

divorce is always messing but this one will probably have a significant impact on the Dodgers’ FO operations. So with this being kept in mind in addition to how the Padres club reacted to a stifling divorce here is my guess on standings come next year.

1. Rockies
2. Giants
3. Padres
4. Diamondbacks
5. Dodgers

I hope you guys enjoy this can of worms.

by lizardlad01 on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, they did finsh 5th this year

…I thought people would be mad at me placing the Dodgers so low…Take a look at this $30 million difference in payroll after divorce. So maybe the Dodgers will see their payroll go down to $50 million.

Personally, I think I sold the Dodgers pretty short but divorce does that.

by lizardlad01 on Oct 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree on the Dodgers

but the Dbacks had a lot of key injuries.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

As you'll see tomorrow

they had below replacement level play at first base as well, which had little to do with injury. But yeah, they ought to rebound next year so long as they don’t deconstruct into rebuild mode

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Off topic but it's a slow news day

I went to the NFL game at Wembley today – Pats vs Bucs. It was great!

I loved it – the game was, somehow, easier to follow live, I think because you get a better sense of space than on the telly. And the interceptions, the completed long passes, the runs that travel the length of the field, they’re a bit special. I’ve come away with a greater appreciation of the sport, even if it’s not a patch on baseball.

The pomp and circumstance was brilliant, the noise, the cheerleaders, the American commentators and everything. It helped we had great seats – $225 each, had they not been a corporate freebie (though we did have to buy our own beer). But it was a great experience anyway, and the other 84,000 spectators sounded like they were having fun too.

by biondino on Oct 25, 2009 5:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Football is amazing..

it boils the blood!

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by Charlie77 on Oct 25, 2009 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

In that first link
He needs a right-handed hitter off the bench

Hi Daniel O’ Dowd, please, allow me to introduce you to one Matthew Murton.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Oct 25, 2009 5:38 PM MDT reply actions  

so anyone watching the game?

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Oct 25, 2009 6:33 PM MDT reply actions  

dear God yes I am

flashes of Jorge De La Rosa

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha, that might have been the worst throw i've ever seen from 40 feet

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Oct 25, 2009 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Woohoo!

NEVER SURRENDER DREAMS

Purple Row - Covering all your Rockies needs!

by Russ Oates on Oct 25, 2009 10:01 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

IT'S MARIANO AND PETTITTE HUGGING ITS LIKE HISTORY

time for 50,000 clips of yankees WS history

go phillies stomp them

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed

As I just posted on Facebook, I dislike having to root for the team that knocked my team out, but better than the alternative. Go Phils.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Oct 25, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

honestly

this is the better WS matchup anyhow. The Angels would just bungle their way into a 5 game loss.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind a WS that goes 7 for once

It’d be the first time since 02. As long as the Yankees lose in front of their hometown crowd… I could deal with that.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Oct 25, 2009 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I was pushing for a 7 game everything

I took my week off of baseball, and now I’m back.

and I want baseball.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anyone

get the feeling during that celebration that they were more relieved than anything? That didn’t look like a bunch that was genuinely happy or even friends. All the hugging looked quite tentative to me.

by Hizilla on Oct 25, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's what the Yankees are

Everyone in the organization, the fans, and the media expect them to win the World Series (especially this year, after their free agent spending spree). Anything less is a failure. It makes me wonder how much fun it could be to be a Yankees fan. A Yankees fan would have a hard time looking at a season like the Rox just had and be happy about it.

by kiraly41 on Oct 25, 2009 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

It makes me wonder how much fun it could be to be a Yankees fan.

Or a Yankee?

by Hizilla on Oct 25, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw several kids at the game on TV

My honest first thought: poor kids….won’t get to learn with failure. I WANT AN ACE PITCHER AND MVP CALIBER SLUGGER. Thanks!

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, must be nice

I wonder if the Rockies will ever make a big splash in free agency again. Maybe after helton comes off the books

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Oct 25, 2009 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

something tells me no

at least not for the next 5 or so years.

who would you want to go get?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Joe Mauer

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Oct 25, 2009 10:44 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

that would just end all discussion and argument, now wouldn't it.

and it would be the most devastating catching corps ever assembled.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Oct 25, 2009 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Backwards argument in regards to Tracy

Cargo isn’t on the team with Hurdle here, there would have been 0 consistency in the lineup/bullpen/team. How about the concept that the turn around in these players is BECAUSE of Tracy’s style not just because. Yes this team had talent but like any organization it takes leadership to bring it out. I have no problem with a 2 year deal and an option for a 3rd.

by Roxfan24 on Oct 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Other Hurdleisms:

2. IAN STEWART ENDS THE SEASON AS THE STARTING 2B.

3. UBALDO RECEIVES 30 MORE AB’s AND 20 LESS INNINGS PITCHED

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by Charlie77 on Oct 25, 2009 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hurdleism #4

4. HUSTON STREET IS INJURED. JUAN RINCON IS THE NEW CLOSER!

by blackmet on Oct 25, 2009 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

From the mlb site, Girardi on Rivera

“You know that he’s unbelievable when he goes out there,” said Yankees manager Joe Girardi. "I’ve had a chance to catch him, I’ve had a chance to coach him, I’ve had a chance to mange him. Let me tell you, it’s nice having him down there

To MANGE him? And down where…?

by biondino on Oct 26, 2009 2:56 AM MDT reply actions  

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