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GM Meetings: Day 2 - The Rockening

Get it, it's like The Reckoning or something? yeah I know it's terrible. Turrible if you will.

It may have been a better idea to go with like "The Metsening", because when Omar Minaya arrived, it was like a fanfare, all the agents rejoiced, saying "Oh, the benevolent king of absurd contracts and an undying affinity for latin players has come to line our pockets with gold and fine oils!"

When suddenly the crowd parted and Scott Boras seemed to glide forward with hands outstretched, saying "I bring to thee Matt Holliday; for thou lackest a powerful bat from the right who canst playeth thine Outer Fields" to which Joe Urbon popped up saying "Hey! My client [Jason Bay] has more years displaying consistent offensive prowess in more run-neutral environments!"

Boras replied "Ah, but thou forgettest Holliday's most excellent postseason experiences, he hath carried the Rockies AND the Cardinals to October. Also, thou forgettest 2007, where Jason Bay hath batted .247 and hath only batted above .300 in his career onthe. Clearly, my client beith the supreme LF available, as he hath a career .318 batting average."

"Listen, Boras, your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped sway savvy GMs that Holliday is better than Bay. Bay's posted similar OPS in worse hitters parks and he-"

"Come, Omar, we have much to discuss" as Boras wraps his arm around Omar Minaya's shoulder and slowly walks away while $100 bills litter the ground from Minaya's torn pockets.

 

Seriously, when Minaya arrived, Heyman cited that he was looking for a power hitter, a starter, and a catcher. Heyman immediately suggested Holliday, Wolf, and Molina. Marquis could also be an option.

On the other side of town, it's sounding like the Yankees actually want to keep all their guys like Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui. I have trouble thinking they're not in the running for Holliday or Bay, though. I'm not terribly impressed with Austin Jackson, and it's not as if Matsui and Damon are going to magically get younger and/or healthier.

In other news, Texas is interested in reacquiring Milton Bradley, and he had some pretty solid success with them there in 2008. Heyman is saying he has to go SOMEWHERE, as the rumor is that many Cubs stars won't even talk to him. ARE YOU NOTICING THE COMMON THEME, MILTON? Whatever happens there, the Cubs don't have much leverage.

Rosenthal and Morosi are telling me (just got off the phone with them) that the Mariners are expected to kick the tires on Bay, at the least. Also there's a lot of demand for Billy Wagner, apparently. Who knew?

There are stirrings that the Phillies are pursuing Mark DeRosa to replace Pedro Feliz. So where is Feliz supposed to land? Does anybody care? Maybe the Giants will look at him again if they miss on Adrian Beltre, so they can move Pablo Sandoval over to 1B.

After last season, I don't see how the Giants aren't players for some combination of Bay, Holliday, Beltre, etc etc.

 

I'll keep them coming as long as I'm getting them till about noonish, and then I hope some of the other folks warming themselves around the Hot Stove can pitch in a bit as well!

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I'm seeing these Mark Cuban buying the Dodgers rumors being taken somewhat seriously

I don’t, he’s rumored to buy every team ever, but can you imagine how bad that would make life in the NL West? The Dodgers would just become Yankees West – for real this time.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 AM MST reply actions  

Honestly though

Do they have what it takes to get him after what the dealt for Lee?
Seems like they’d have to give up their entire 2009 draft class to get him as well as JA Happ.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

that's about the size of it

Drabek, Happ, uhhh probably Bastardo or Carrasco, and Ruben Amaro’s 2nd born

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd rather have

HAPP for 5 years than have Halladay for 1 year.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not terribly impressed with Happ

Yes, he’s good now, but I see him as a major “fall off a cliff” candidate next season.

And who says Philly won’t suddenly find a gold mine buried under the Cit and sign Lee and Halladay for booko bucks?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Like

A Rich Hill or a Chuck James?

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe not quite that extreme

but yeah, kind of like that. I predict he’ll be demoted to the pen before the break.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Bold statement

Anything in particular that makes you think that or just his ERA/FIP disparity?

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

DEAR www35.glam.com QUIT MAKING MY BROWSER TAKE FOREVER

the ERA/FIP disparity is definitely part of it, and furthermore I don’t see him as a real longevity guy, the guy you keep in the rotation through struggles, you know? He has decent K9 potential, and he doesn’t walk too many, and I’d probably start him regularly, but Cholly Manuel may not have that patience.

Given that Pedro probably won’t be starting for them anymore, he’s probably not in too much trouble of losing a spot due to too many starters, but I see him as an odd man out if the Phillies acquire a PROVAN WINNAR or someone of that ilk.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Thank you

I forgot whether it was carrasco or drabek

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 12:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

They might just be trying to drive up the price for the Mets

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Oops I read that as Holliday

Never mind. I was wondering where they were going to put him.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

In the most breaking, new, fresh, and OMG news

DID YOU ALL SEE SAMMY SOSA OMG HIS SKIN IS BLEACHED OMG

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:45 AM MST reply actions  

frightening

Remind me NOT to have my skin rejuvenated

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Nov 10, 2009 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Remind me not to...

…hire Quincy Jones as my hitting coach

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 10, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Thats still not as impressive as when he learned English in less than three weeks

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Thazzit?

Also, ‘dolences on McCoy. He’s in a better place.

by Muzia on Nov 10, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

no he isn't!

He’s in the AL, in the AL East, and in CANADA

what part of those makes it better than Colorado?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Toronto

It’s a cool city. And they have hockey there.

(I meant maybe he will get a shot on the roster year-round?)

by Muzia on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

I thought Toronto was dirty and the zteca we went to was garbage

that said most of the touristy places were pretty cool, and the Fox and Fiddle has good wings and poutine

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

don't forget the cheese curds

….

that totally sounds good right now – although I am just really hungry ATM

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes,

Other than having to endure hockey it is nice. Like Marge said “It’s so clean and bland!”

by Since1993 on Nov 10, 2009 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

On a related note

How many empty spots do we have on the 40 Man once Francis and the other 60 Day DL guys are added back?

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

9 open spots

I believe the roster will be at 31.

by roxhead on Nov 10, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

as if he's dead.

140+ long days till we meet again...

by prettyinpurple on Nov 10, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

No more Randy Winn

for SF. Wasn’t he one of their better players the last couple years?

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 11:04 AM MST reply actions  

The Cards want to keep Holliday but they won't

because at the end of the day they will want to keep Pujols more.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

and can you blame them?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope

I’m just trying to narrow down the teams I think he could end up with

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Our FA's

So it looks like Yorvit, Beimel and Marquis are all but gone. Do we offer any of them arbitration? I would bet Beimel and Marquis, but not Yorvit.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM MST reply actions  

the only problem with offering Marquis arb is that he might take it.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

See

That’s what I would be worried about for Yorvit, but Marquis I think can get a multi-year deal somewhere, especially with a team not having to give up a draft pick like they would for Wolf. Even if he takes it, having him on another one year deal wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, value/risk wise.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought all the "second half fall off" talk last winter was just that....talk.

But he sure made a believer out of me.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

It wouldn't be the worst thing pitching-value, wise, but it would cost about $11-12m

Given his ZOMG wins, and his 2009 salary, he’d be in line for a bump. And that’s too much of our payroll to put in a position that is not one of our greatest needs, really.

This presupposes we actually keep JLDR…

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

With his Type B

Status, I kind of envision him signing somewhere before the Dec. 7 deadline, so in my eyes it is likely moot, but I guess we’ll have to see.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

He just seems like an expensive alternative

in case Jeff Francis doesn’t come back strong, which is what it would be.

Never give up, never surrender.

by coolopotamus on Nov 10, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm really interested to see if DOD does something with Hawpe.

And I would like to see something worked out to keep Beimel. But I’m pretty sure he’ll find plenty of offers out there. I just don’t think we saw his best work.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 PM MST reply actions  

Iawtc

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 12:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Does that mean something?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

sorry. I thought it was " L"awtc. I just couldn't figure out what the "L " stood for.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

From Joel Sherman

The Mets could have interest in Jason Varitek

if Boston gets something of value out of tek I will laaaaaaugh

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 12:30 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

I think this proves that the Mets IQ is lower than their win total from last year

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Bill Burr on the Yankees win

fair warning for language.

"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson

by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 10, 2009 12:33 PM MST reply actions  

That was outstanding

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

From Sherman: Yankees, Mets downplay Holliday

Well of course they do. They downplay everyone. This is strategiry.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 12:44 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

you mean

“We love Holliday, and will pay ANYTHING to get him” is not a good negotiation tactic?

by Redhawk on Nov 10, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

But isn't that what they ultimately do?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe we should pull a switch-a-roo for joke.

Instead of selling them the Brooklyn Bridge, we’ll sell them the Royal Gorge Bridge.

“A fool and his money are soon parted. (all too offten that fool are the Mets” P.T. Barnum

Making facetious trade rumors since 2012AD

by lizardlad01 on Nov 10, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

"there's a sucker born every minute"

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

not....good....talent

ok got it.

See I’m learning things here, too!

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Was it at the Winter Meetings last year when DOD shipped MattH to Oakland?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 10, 2009 2:23 PM MST reply actions  

Looks like we won't see replay as long as Selig is in charge

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091110&content_id=7648304&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Costas does a great job with this interview.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 3:21 PM MST reply actions  

AL Gold Gloves:

AL

C – Joe Mauer
1B – Mark Teixeira
2B – Placido Polanco
SS – Derek Jeter
3B – Evan Longoria
OF – Torii Hunter
OF – Ichiro Suzuki
OF – Adam Jones
P – Mark Buehrle

The BBWAA is dumb.

To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2009 3:32 PM MST reply actions  

He was better this year but still didn't deserve it

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions  

What?!?!?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I take them with a grain of salt

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

oh, well they are dumb, then

To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.

by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 10, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder if there's any difference between the AL & NL voting.

Like, do they tend to get it wrong about equally? Or is either league better at getting decent GG representatives?

by holly96 on Nov 10, 2009 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

They are both equally terrible from what I have seen

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

OK everyone time for a poll

Will any Rockies players win gold gloves this year?

Yes/No

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess no

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Shoud they Yes

will they… no

The Future:

Smith LF
Fowler CF
CarGo RF

by wolf213 on Nov 10, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

agree

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

but Jimmy Rollins....

The Future:

Smith LF
Fowler CF
CarGo RF

by wolf213 on Nov 10, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it might be close.

But I get the sense that Tulo is much more entrenched now as one of the best SSs in the league, even among players/managers. We’ll see, I guess. Either way, it would be interesting to see how close it is.

by holly96 on Nov 10, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't have a good feeling about it

I hope I’m wrong

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too.

There were some first time winners in the AL (regardless of whether or not they were the right winners), so at least we know it’s not always just the same guy every year.

by holly96 on Nov 10, 2009 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Ben Reiter of SI ranked the top 50 free agents and where he thinks the best fit will be

I guess he thinks nobody is a good fit with the Rockies.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ben_reiter/11/08/reiter.50/index.html?eref=sihp

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 4:20 PM MST reply actions  

after we traded for Brian Roberts, nowhere.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 10, 2009 8:44 PM MST up reply actions  

See

I was baiting him and you ruined my fun!

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 9:23 PM MST up reply actions  

also how the hell does he figure Adrian Beltre is a good fit with the O's

last time I checked, the Phillies and Giants need a 3B

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Well so do the O's now that they declined Mora's option.

But I agree he would be a better fit with another team.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 8:08 PM MST up reply actions  

It's just odd

considering they have Josh Bell…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

He's probably a year away

Maybe a short term deal

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd probably

just play Wigginton there for the last year of his deal and eat the bad defense…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

From heyman: SI_JonHeyman: Phillies are seriously considering Figgins

I don’t think they can handle much more SPEED

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 5:21 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

If they do

you better have a catcher that can control the running game when you face them in the playoffs.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

hopefully Rockies win the West and face the NL Wild Card Atlanta Braves :)

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Money worries could force Reds to trade stars...

according to an AOL Funhouse report. Maybe Brandon Phillips could come our way?

I got nothing.

by nkrause on Nov 10, 2009 9:04 PM MST reply actions  

I feel like that's such a bad move for them

They should trade Arroyo and eat some salary because they’d probably alienate less of their fanbase by dealing him rather than Philips.

However, I’d love it if we got Philips, though I don’t see how we could in an effective way

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 9:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Walt Jocketty is smart

he’ll find a way to deal one or two of those guys.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Harang would be pennies on the dollar at this point

and Arroyo would be “DEAR GOD TAKE HIM PLEASE – DOES ANYBODY NEED 200IP OF PURE SUNSHINE AND GUITAR ROCK?”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Hope they get off to a good start and save 'em for a deadline deal then?

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Depends, how long has Jocketty been their GM?

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

And then what happens :)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 PM MST up reply actions  

uh

don’t know

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think Philips is that much better than Barmes

With the money and prospects we’d have to give up I’m not sure it would be worth it

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

But

like he could totally provide the veteran leadership we’ll need if Hawpe goes!!

The hard part about this is that any of the parts we’d be looking to move would be somewhat pricey which completely conflicts with the Reds’ desire. They definitely wouldn’t take Hawpe, maybe like JDLR, EY2, and I’m assuming something else would be a possibility though financially that’s a lateral move – though it definitely gives them incentive to move Harang or Bronson…

Brandon will also get pretty expensive pretty quickly – though he seems a safe bet to put up numbers that will cover and go beyond the salary.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

this isn’t really to say I’d definitely trade for Phillips, but man, do I love talking and thinking about this type of stuff…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think he'd be any better than Barmes at 2B

and his bat isn’t night and day, it’s like .020 career wOBA over Barmes.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably right about the defense

though Phillips could provide stolen bases (though he’s borderline productive there).

I feel like coming to CO would totally help him though since the only area of his game that’s lacking is plate discipline. We seem to be pretty good at stressing that. Even if his k-rate increases (another thing we’re good at) he’d still have a low k-rate.

Also, is wOBA park-adjusted? Because if it’s not…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I just pulled it right off of fangraphs

I closed it, but wRAA might be a good metric to check, I’m p sure that’s park adjusted or something

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Phillips was

4.4, Barmes was -8.something in the wRAA department.

Phillips should be worth about 1-2 wins over Barmes.

He’d cost about 2.5 mil more.

Man it’d be cool if we acquired him – too bad cool doesn’t equal smart…

I’d call Jocketty, see what’s good, then probably move along, saying something like “we have our own Brandon Phillips here in Eric Young Jr.” and never really qualify that further…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 10, 2009 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

neither wRAA nor wOBA on fangraphs is park adjusted

Their park adjustments come into play with their conversion of wRAA to batting RAR. They are considering having park adjusted wRAA and wOBA for next season, iirc

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 10, 2009 11:06 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

ah right

I always forget that the wRAA isn’t adjusted either. Thanks.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Placido Polanco's on the market

He hit .341 a few years ago. Worth pursuing?

by MikeMez on Nov 10, 2009 9:58 PM MST reply actions  

possibly

He’ll come with a high price tag, and he’s also 34. Basically he looks like Barmes with a more polished glove (seriously, I mean that, he’s a wizard at 2B) and ability to hit for better average. He’s starting to drop below the league-average line now in terms of OPS and such, but I imagine he’ll draw a high price tag, and the additional money we’ll have to spend on him won’t be worth the limited benefits over Barmes.

If you believe UZR as a trustworthy fielding metric, Polanco provides about 10 runs over replacement level as a 2B. Barmes….the same.

The question then is as such: is .030 points of wOBA (or .050 points of OPS) worth the extra $5M or so we’d have to pay Polanco above what we’d be paying Barmes?

Also, welcome! Keep up with us, we’ll be doing this again tomorrow, and then it’ll get REAL crazy come the Winter Meetings!

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I love hot stove season

I feel like this year is going to be lots and lots and lots of chatter and not alot of action.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

I’m not going to have internet for 10 days later this month and it makes me kind of sad.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 PM MST up reply actions  

By no internet

I mostly mean no electricity, no cell service, no computer. I’m really excited about it, except for missing something big, that and 2 Broncos games.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably

I don’t think the Rockies are going to do a ton, but i’m very curious to see what that is.

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Random thought

If the Rockies don’t get a proven bench bat what are the odds that Ortmeier gets a real look?

by Hizilla on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

nah

I’m sure keith weiser will get the bump soon.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 10, 2009 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd vote no

He’s a type A free agent which means we’d have to give up draft picks which is not something this team likes to give up.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 10, 2009 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Is that Lee Majors, in Scott Boras' entourage?

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by Charlie77 on Nov 10, 2009 11:43 PM MST reply actions  

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