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GM Meetings Day 3: Today is a National Holliday

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To kick things off, in all seriousness, thank you to all of our Veterans who have served our country and are serving our country, in any and all capacities. What you all have done and are doing requires a strength of body, mind, and character that I could only hope to attain someday. Sincerely, Thank You, and God Bless you.

 

Moving to the lighter side of things, we have a few rumors already kicking up. Mostly about New York. Great.

The Statue of Liberty has been resigned to a 87 year, $1.479B contract that will be shared between the Yankees, Mets, Knicks, Giants, Rangers, and in small (mostly ceremonial) part, Paris FC, with a regional option on the 88th year that will vest if the poor, tired, and huddled masses yearning to breathe free are continued to be given through year 31.

Rudy Guliani has agreed to a 7 year sponsorship agreement with New Era and Fox that will ensure that you know he LOVES NEW YORK by means of him excitedly wearing a Yankees cap when spotted at games.

And finally, the Mets have offered Albert Pujols 12 years, $314M, until someone gently informed Omar Minaya that Pujols was not, in fact, a free agent.

 

But seriously, baseball news in the comments.

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Sherman's given me a few to work with this morning

The Mets have officially begun to talk to Scott Boras about Matt Holliday, in the form of a 45 minute meeting between Omar Minaya and Boras. Holliday’s line-drive style will still play well in the expanses of Citi Field. Boras has apparently “guaranteed his client would be a 100 RBI/100 run guy in Citi Field.” Boras is still comparing Holliday to Teixeira.

Hm.

Cardinals still in the play for him, though.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

I believe the Red Sox will be a player in this as well before it's over

I heard their talks with Bay did not go very well.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions  

If Boras' guarantee included "money back", it would be worth something

But most of his guarantees are worth about as much as Matt Harrington’s professional career.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions  

This is news

Adam Rubin from the NY Daily Post is saying the Mets are out on Holliday and Bay, as the asking price is too high for them.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

So maybe they would be in the market for a RF with great arm, decent power, modest contract.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 11, 2009 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

the plot thickens...

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 11, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

So this begs the question

What is the asking price?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

In terms of catching

The Mets want Bengie Molina. Which just cracks me up. They also want Chris Snyder from Arizona, and sort of Rod Barajas.

THESE ARE BIG MOVES PEOPLE

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:27 AM MST reply actions  

I'll do you one better:

I played catcher for about five games in high school. And my OBP was better than .300

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 11, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Are they looking to trade for Jason Varitek?

Or were they only interested in him if he was a free agent?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

On the other side of the Big Apple

Hideki Matsui may enter free agency after all. Mariners could be a good fit there, what with the Japanese connection through their ownership as well as their lack of a DH at the moment. I wonder if Matsui can play 1B? Branyan’s looking for multi-year.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 AM MST reply actions  

I be cautious with Matsui

His World Series performance made him a lot more expensive

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Japanese sources are saying Bahhhhston and the Angels are both interested in Matsui

The White Sox may also be a potential suitor

via NPB Tracker

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Sherman's ALSO suggesting the Yanks might NT Chien Ming Wang

definitely a tire-kicker for O’Dowd, I’d love to have a guy with his upside pitching for us.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:32 AM MST reply actions  

I'd roll those dice

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

I almost brought this up yesterday

With his GB tendencies I’d be surprised of DOD didn’t go after him if he were non-tendered.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

lol

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 AM MST up reply actions  

We should be hearing more Rockies news once O'Dowd and Tracy are locked up

Saunders says they’re just working through some small details.

Apparently we’re in “listening” mode on Hawpe, meaning we’re not shopping him, per se, but we’re not considering him untouchable.

Atkins, however, we’re shopping like mad.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 AM MST reply actions  

Good, good and good

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Atkins for Joey Devine!! lets do it!

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

How could anyone trade for him?

We are going to NT him. So a club can just sign him FOR LESS THAN HE MAKES NOW, without having to give up anyone in a trade. This makes not sense.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 11, 2009 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

They would trade for him to get there first

I think we all agree he’ll get signed; if multiple managers want that signature then there may be some value in being able to jump the queue.

It’s tenuous, I admit, but it’s true.

by biondino on Nov 11, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

this is why we traded for hammel

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 11, 2009 1:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

but wouldn't they have to trade for him and then offer him arb?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 11, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

They would have exclusive negotiating rights with him until the tender deadline. So I imagine that nobody would give up anything useful for that. Lower minors roster fodder.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

id be surprised if we got anything more than a used copy of Gigli for Atkins

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 11, 2009 1:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll tell you what....if we get ANYTHING for Akins, DOD will be the leader in the clubhouse for 2010 GM of the year.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 11, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Who was the bathrobe designer?

Just sayin’….bathrobes have become a bit more important in MLB.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

ok new plan

we get bathrobes and large mugs of beer

and then go to a sears and get our pictures taken in the photo studio

oh and cigars as well

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Hahah...I could get on board with that

Especially if it’s a Sears with a service center…Harrington can rotate my tires while we wait for pics to develop.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

ok seriously we need to get robes

which means I need money to acquire said robe

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

If my memory serves....

I might actually have a purple-ish robe somewhere. From years ago…dunno if it will fit around my aging fatass anymore. And it’s not really Rockies purple, more like a deep dark red wine….ahh…gotta check into it.

If all else fails, I actually have a set of Rockies jammies. Yeah, I admit it.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

nonono this won't work at all

we need the Beimel robe

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree, but it occurred to me for a moment...

….that we may be splitting hairs between “schmoke and a pancake”, and “pipe and a crepe” (dare we add “bong and a blintz”?)

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

In that case, you get crepes

No, I won’t be having the blintz.

I gotta root through my closet and see if I can find that robe…maybe in the right light (that of a near-championship winning clubhouse) it might take on a purpleish hue.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

BTW....I might actually be up for a happy hour on Friday...

…gotta check and see, but I may take a hospital night off to see an amazing band from England down at Moe’s.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

let me check my schedule

I’m working on an industry analysis project this week, and I don’t know when my group will need to meet

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Coolbeans

If it works this week, great, if not, we will git’r’done before long. I’m thinking Sputnik, at 5 South Broadway, for good beers, and the best damn Vietnamese sandwich with sweet potato fries evah.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

remember, grad student

$$ is always a concern for me

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Ahh, well the PBR and Stella are cheep

But if we can figure out the when, we can figure out the where later….

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

ooooh nice

yeah, I’ll see what works

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

San Jacinto if I recall correctly

more evocative or soemthing

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I hold the liiiiiiiiine

"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton

by Franchise26 on Nov 11, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

SAAAN JACINTO

/listens to it again

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Speaking of Mayoral Fandom

What was with Johnny Come Lately Yankee Fan Michael Bloomburg lurking around the celebration interviews after the ALCS and the WS? Did anyone else see him awkwardly standing there, dwarfed by everyone except the Fox announcer? That had to cost him 5, maybe 10 points in the election. At least Giuliani had the sense to engage with players, rather than lurk and gawk.

Also, how about a network ban on asking the winning WS players if they’re going to resign with the team next year? What an a-hole question.

by deacs on Nov 11, 2009 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

Ben Maller of Foxsports.com says he’s hearing Milwaukee would take Zito

SF is going to have to eat a lot of money, but yeah, Zito as a Brewer maybe.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:51 AM MST reply actions  

For Prince Fielder?

Who would the Giants get in that scenario, I wonder. I don’t know if I like them dealing an expensive mediocrity if it’s actually improving their team, I like our rivals to be hamstrung by bad money.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Fielder for Cain is a blockbuster that might actually work

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's probably difficult to tell I was kidding about Fielder,

McCovey Chronicles seems to indicate that a lot of Giants fans drool over him.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

FYP
McCovey Chronicles seems to indicate that a lot of Giants fans drool over him are mentally imbalanced.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions  

that's just it

Maller doesn’t say much more than “Milwaukee will take him” as if Zito is just sitting out on the curb or something

Were I in Sabean’s shoes, I’d be asking for talent back as well, especially if i’m eating a chunk of that monstrosity. Zito is hardly worth what he’s being paid, but he’s not utterly worthless.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

At least there is still Rentaria and Rowand.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Depending on

how much salary SF would eat, maybe Mat Gamel? If they keep fielder he really doesn’t have anywhere to play in Milwaukee, although sticking him at 1B kind of displaces the Panda.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Any idea of who might be headed west?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

old news, but Jr. is heading back to Seattle

not sure what he’ll DO there, though

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:00 AM MST reply actions  

Damn

That makes them much less of a canidate for Hawpe.

I don’t know why they want hawpe at this point in his career

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

*Griffy* not Hawpe

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

it HAS to be sentimental at this point

but even then…that’s 25-man space, and he’s pretty much worthless anymore.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions  

He's probably still worth some marginal improvement in ticket sales

A sign that Seattle doesn’t really see themselves competing for the playoffs next year, so gotta try to do something to keep butts in the seats?

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

They were very lucky to win 85 (should have been 77)...

I see them as a severe regression candidate next year.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Nov 11, 2009 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Are the Yankees in that regression boat as well?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions  

The Yankees spend too much to be in a regression boat...

they’re buying a bigger boat each year.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Nov 11, 2009 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Let's hope next year's boat will be the Titanic

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

If that's what they are thinking they are making a huge mistake IMO

They won 85 games last year with the worst offense in the AL. (They only scored 2 more runs than the Pads and that was with a DH) With the Angels having to deal with Lackey, Figgins and Vlad all going into free agency I’d make a run at it.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

This may indeed be the case...

…it may also be where they do see themselves as contending, but think the marginal improvement in ticket sales with Griffey doesn’t actually hurt their chances much. I don’t like this reasoning, but it may be what’s in their head.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions  

word is $2M base + incentives that could reach $1M

I’m seriously wondering what the point is anymore. Retire, Jr. Go out with some semblance of remaining dignity

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Yep

I think it’s bad for both sides

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I mean when I think of Griffy Jr., I think of what he did in the 90's

Now we’re moving into another decade and he still hasn’t retired?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

32 Minutes ago:

keithlaw
  
How pointless. RT @jcrasnick Griffey back with Seattle, for close to $2M base and $3M-plus overall he made in 2008. http://bit.ly/miRFE

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

yeah I just added him

it’s a lot of really generic twitter stuff

I’m hoping I can get my hands on another live rumor feed from the MLBTR guys

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

He had some funny stuff during the playoffs

and some really good stuff the week he was at the AFL.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions  

Hold the Phone on Chone

Seems the Angels are working to retain him – no shock there – but the Mets are competing for his services as well!

Wait they’re bringing WHO in? |
                                       /

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:18 AM MST reply actions  

Mets have to see Chone as a replacement for Castillo at second or maybe an outfielder, obviously.

That franchise is such a mess right now, they might actually be hoping that Figgins can play both at once.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

amusingly enough, Heyman just said exactly this

well not the both at once part, but the versatility part

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

There was an interesting comment by Kenny Williams

In the Cleveland Plain Dealer about there being four tiers of free agency. He puts the Yankees, Red Sox and two LA teams on the top tier, where if they like a player, he can’t compete at all, but he’s got that same advantage over some teams at the bottom. If his principal’s applying, that would indicate that it’s the Angels getting Figgins.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd say there are five tiers

The Yankees are on a whole different level than any of those other teams and need to get their own personal teir. I mean the Red Sox payroll was $30 million closer to Kansas City’s than it was the Yankees.

Fortunately for the Angels the Yankee infield is kind of full.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh on a serious note

Old Z’s mother was recovered from kidnappers in Venezuela.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 10:25 AM MST reply actions  

Sell very high?

I don’t get it, they aren’t really pitching rich

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe they don't want to pay him

With the economy being the way it is in Detroit

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

It's not like he's making a lot..

This isn’t the same situation with the Reds where the starting pitchers they’re trying to offload are both $11 million a season or more.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Not that large, 2nd year arbitration awards usually fall in around 60% of a player's FA market value

For Jackson, that expected 2010 contract would be somewhere in the five to seven million range, and given his 2009 salary, might come in closer to the low end. This is still a relative bargain, but I guess I could see some benefit of slashing it if the Tigers really felt they had enough depth at starter. I just don’t see that, though.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Well it makes no sense to me then

Unless it is the straw the broke the cammel’s back type of thing

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Just looking over

Detroit’s payroll situation. Dombrowski should be fired.
2010:
Magglio – 18Mil (Option)
Cabrera – 20Mil
Bonderman – 12.5Mil
Guillen – 13Mil
Dontrelle – 12Mil
Robertson – 12Mil

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

That's more than Colorado's payroll

locked up in 6 players…few of which are actually good. In a town hit pretty hard by the economy troubles.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

esp for Bonderman and Robertson

he should seriously be fired

Miggy Cabs is legit but overpaid

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I personally thinkDontrelle is the worst

They deserved to lose the division.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

oh absolutely he is

but Bonderman and Robertson were never that good to begin with, at no point should they be making $10M+

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

The Tigers still blew right through the stop sign that was Dontrelle's 2007 season

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

oh absolutely

there was nothing good whatsoever about it, I’m not defending it for a single second

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Cabrera yes

I was really confused by Willis

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

That's a lot of dead weight

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Good point

What did they give Turner? Like 5 milion or something?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Turner $4.7M
Perry $1.48M
Porcello $3.58M

Not chump change, especially when you throw in Verlander

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

man they have one expensive rotation

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

makes you wonder what they know,

Jackson didn’t show any drop off in his stuff/velocity throughout the season, so it doesn’t look like it’s an injury concern. Is it a clubhouse thing? The Dodgers with Padilla already showed they aren’t afraid of that.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Do I win a prize? :-)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Heyan did an interview yesterday with WFAN as he does weekly

Click on his name to hear it

http://www.wfan.com/pages/744503.php

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 AM MST reply actions  

Heyman*

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

We better not let Betancourt get away, I'll tell you that!!!

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Nov 11, 2009 10:49 AM MST reply actions  

I'd say no

I like the games mugh better.

But the Hot Stove is better now that I have the Row

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Oooh here's a juicy one

Rosenthal and Morosi are reporting the Giants as strongly pursuing Dan Uggla

Uggla would be shifted to 3B.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions  

I'd like to see that

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

How strong is their farm system

assuming Posey and/or MadBum are on the 25 man roster next year?

Would they have much to give Florida for Uggla?

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't know how well they match up after those two are taken off the table.

Of the Giants next best prospects (Thomas Neal, Connor Gillaspie, Roger Kieschnick, Brandon Crawford, Kevin Pucetas, another pitcher I’m forgetting the name of at Salem-Keizer last year) they’d probably have to give up a lot of quantity to get a deal done because there isn’t really a sure thing in that bunch.

by Rox Girl on Nov 11, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Apparently Boston and Baltimore are also interested

Boston? Really? Are they just gonna leave Youkilis at 1B? I thought he’d be reconverted to 3B when Lowell eventually kicks the bucket

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

he sucks

throws 100 but straight as an arrow lol

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 11, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh fan freaking tastic

Heyman reporting the Yankees are inquiring about Halladay.

Considering they could easily deal Joba or Hughes or both, maybe even Jesus Montero, this could just make the Yankees the most boringly powerful team in baseball.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

Report:

Yankees offer contracts to Zeus, Odin, who batted .650 and .720 respectively in the Deity League.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 11, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I see Zeus as a pitcher

Dionysus would be their LaRussa-like manager

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I hear Beelzebub throws some serious heat

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by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

This just in:

I’m really hungry and thinking Santiago’s might be the only winning option.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 12:01 PM MST reply actions  

OH MAN

Good call! I will do the same.

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I can highly recommend Tacos y Salsas on Kentucky and Federal

Wish I could build time at work to do that one myself

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by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm in the mood for Thai food

But I’m in Iowa so nobody can help me. (Yes there is at least one Rockies fan amongst all these cub and cardinal fans here in the midwest)

by Thnikkaman on Nov 12, 2009 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

kosmo is from Iowa as well

We have registered fans here from all over the place. :) Welcome

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 12, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

My left pinky toe has a scoop

That Hawpe will be traded in the next two hours. Keep your eyes open.

I need to go to class so I expect to see the news when I get back.

by mkorpal on Nov 11, 2009 12:10 PM MST reply actions  

come on John Daneils....

make a really stupid offer for him.

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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 11, 2009 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Just whisper subliminally under your breath....

“kinsler…kinsler…kinsler…”

Not a chance, but what the heck.

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by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

How broke are the Tigers?

Good Lord, I half expect them to take the field in 2010 as the “Detroit Goldenpalace.com Tigers” at this point.

"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton

by Franchise26 on Nov 11, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions  

RMN

Haven’t you learned to stay out of the MLBTR comments yet?

Oh, my mistake RockiesMagicNumber. I meant do you think the Rockies would be interested in Garrett Atkins for Roy Halladay? Wouldn’t want the Rockies to have to give up anything important in a trade.

Posted by: dizzle | November 11, 2009 at 10:46 AM

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM MST reply actions  

Mock them for me please.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 1:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Apparently jr signing completely nixes a matsui idea

Ichiro an matsui do not get along. At all.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 1:38 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Neither did Tinker and Evers. Didn't speak for like 7 years.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 11, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

great response.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Nov 11, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Muzia wins teh internetz today

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by Mondogarage on Nov 11, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Mark derosa is a hot topic

 he already has received calls from yankees, mariners, nats, dodgers, phils, rangers, orioles, giants

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 1:39 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Phillies "intent on pursuing Chone Figgins hard"

according to Heyman

That would be an absolutely terrifying lineup.

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 1:51 PM MST reply actions  

or 2007

or even just stay around his .380 OBP from the last three years

by Muzia on Nov 11, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Sherman broke some huge news

The Dodgers are looking for a SP and 2B.

wow.

alert the presses.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 2:01 PM MST reply actions  

Tulo robbed of another Gold Glove.

I. Hate. Rollins.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 11, 2009 2:26 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe but

It appears from FanGraphs UZR rating he (Rollins) deserved it much more than Tulo did.

by dsmba on Nov 11, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I was hoping they might right the wrong from 2007 though

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions  

The Fielding Bible

Had Tulo WAAAAAAYYYYY ahead for NL shortstops this year.

by Hizilla on Nov 11, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I like the fielding Bible

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 11, 2009 7:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Ted Keith on SI:

NL winner: Jimmy Rollins, Phillies
Should have been: Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies

As in the AL, Rollins wasn’t necessarily underwhelming this year, but he wasn’t particularly overwhelming either. Like Jeter, he had the best fielding percentage in the league (.990) but that seems only to underscore the simplistic nature of the awards. Tulowitzki ranked second in the league in fielding percentage, putouts, total chances and assists, and third in double plays while finishing with a better zone rating than Rollins. What’s more, Tulo finished fourth in the NL and eighth in the majors in Plus/Minus at +11.

by biondino on Nov 12, 2009 7:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Do you punish Rollins for not having a groundball-heavy staff?

I’m not so much saying that Tulo shouldn’t win, but I’m saying that Rollins isn’t the OMG NIGHT AND DAY TRAVESTY choice that he seems to be made out to be.

Putouts, chances, assists – that has to do with the number of balls coming his way. Obviously. Putouts alone is pretty huge.

I wonder what zone rating they mean, because if it’s one of Bill James’ old late-70s-early-80s fielding metric, it’s pretty poor.

That said, I’d love to see Tulo win one. But how many managers actually remember their experiences in Colorado aside from “OH DEAR GOD MY FLYBALL PITCHER IS GETTING SHELLED HOLY CRAP GET US OUT OF HERE”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2009 9:15 AM MST up reply actions  

RZR has..

Rollins (.802) slightly higher than Tulo (.800) with more Out of Zone plays (44-JRoll, 42-Tulo). Incidentelly Barmes had a RZR of .911 at SS last year.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 12, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Good numbers

I trust RZR and and OOZ more than UZR. The problem is that I can only find then searching player by player individually

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 12, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

RZR can be narrowed by team..

and position. Or even year, position and league. If you use the control or shift button to narrow/expand your selection, it makes RZR easier to use.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 13, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree I think this year was very close

2007 was the real robbery. I guess I was just hoping that some voters would remember that and give Tulo the award this year. That was kind of a pipedream though.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 12, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Some voters might have.

I really wish we could see the voting totals for SS.

by holly96 on Nov 12, 2009 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too

Is there anywhere those numbers are available?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 12, 2009 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Last few things I'm seeing

Pat Burrell for Milton Bradley is a possibility, but money is an issue – Bradley’s being paid much more than Burrell is, and Tampa wants some financial help there.

Oldmar Vizquel is not returning to the Rangers, and he’s looking for a utility role with another team. I’d say kick the tires, but he is just such a complete black hole of a bat, we may just be better served with a guy without much glove but can hit a bit. Our starters are glove enough

The Giants are looking to bring back Uribe. Duh.

I do believe that’s the end of the meetings. We’ll be doing this again in a month or so during the Winter Meetings – I can hardly wait!!!!

I love the hot stove. I do.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 12, 2009 9:26 AM MST reply actions  

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