Tuesday Rockpile: CHONE is back in town (not Figgins)
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 17, 2009 7:41 AM MST
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PrintThe 2010 CHONE Projections have been posted. I recommend switching to wide view to see the table.
In case you're curious what would happen if Colorado opened the season with Jeff Kindel, Rex Rundgren, Daniel Mayora and Darin Holcomb in the infield, their projections (among others) are in the link. However, I filtered out the minor leaguers, and here are the projected main contributors for 2010.
Note CHONE tempers its expectations on Tulo and Cargo, which is typical for a projection system for young players. Exceeding those expectations would give the Rockies not only on-field success but offensive starpower the team lacked.
|
Player |
Pos |
Age |
G |
HR |
RBI |
SB |
CS |
PA |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
wOBA |
|
Helton, Todd |
1B |
36 |
134 |
13 |
68 |
0 |
1 |
582 |
.284 |
.385 |
.430 |
.364 |
|
Young, Eric |
2B |
25 |
149 |
8 |
38 |
39 |
18 |
547 |
.276 |
.347 |
.398 |
.332 |
|
Barmes, Clint |
2B |
31 |
136 |
15 |
58 |
8 |
6 |
509 |
.258 |
.306 |
.420 |
.314 |
|
Stewart, Ian |
3B |
25 |
145 |
22 |
75 |
6 |
4 |
499 |
.263 |
.349 |
.483 |
.359 |
|
Iannetta, Chris |
C |
27 |
105 |
15 |
53 |
0 |
0 |
384 |
.260 |
.370 |
.465 |
.367 |
|
Fowler, Dexter |
CF |
24 |
124 |
4 |
31 |
21 |
11 |
414 |
.271 |
.365 |
.391 |
.338 |
|
Smith, Seth |
OF |
27 |
135 |
15 |
60 |
4 |
2 |
428 |
.291 |
.374 |
.489 |
.376 |
|
Hawpe, Brad |
OF |
31 |
144 |
23 |
86 |
1 |
2 |
572 |
.271 |
.365 |
.482 |
.368 |
|
Gonzalez, Carlos |
OF |
24 |
134 |
15 |
66 |
12 |
6 |
462 |
.285 |
.342 |
.478 |
.354 |
|
Murton, Matt |
OF |
28 |
129 |
10 |
52 |
5 |
2 |
438 |
.280 |
.349 |
.427 |
.343 |
|
Spilborghs, Ryan |
OF |
30 |
127 |
10 |
49 |
7 |
4 |
398 |
.271 |
.352 |
.424 |
.342 |
|
Tulowitzki, Troy |
SS |
25 |
142 |
22 |
80 |
10 |
8 |
580 |
.292 |
.369 |
.497 |
.373 |
Should we be surprised few outside of Colorado expected the Rockies to make the playoffs down the stretch? The Rockies won with depth, which just isn't sexy. They are projected to have great depth again in 2010, with only Clint Barmes having a below average wOBA. Their third "most valuable" hitter in 2009 came off the bench in a third of his games. The 3-4 hitters combined for 15 HR in 2008. The team's two All-Stars combined for just eight AB's in the playoffs. Th top three hitters were only 15th in WAR in MLB, behind the Padres, Nats and Mariners as well as every playoff team/contender sans Atlanta and the Giants. In addition to the team's history, is it any wonder the Rockies weren't viewed as legitimate?
The idea that Rockies pitching can be good has yet to truly sink in among casual fans, and Joe Fan/John Kruk don't have the time/desire to evaluate depths of teams. They look for starpower, and admittedly, the Rockies were a little shy in that department last season. Should we see a repeat performance from Cargo and Tulo in 2010, there may be some recognition of the mountain time zone, although truly, it was a joy to expect and then see the Rockies defy expectations down the stretch.
Links
The Rockies and Diamondbacks officially broke ground on their spring training facility in Scottsdale, Arizona yesterday. It is set to be completed approximately 435 days from now, just in time for use for the 2011 season.
As linked in the Rockpile yesterday, Juan Morillo is headed to Japan. Remember when Dan O'Dowd replaced him on the roster in April with some dude from Tampa Bay? Good move.
Patrick Saunders opines that Dexter Fowler deserved better than eighth place in the NL Rookie of the Year voting. I would disagree with his assessment that this is a "banner year for rookies," but I am a bit surprised he got no more love than Gerardo Parra or Everth Cabrera.
Fangraphs awarded their 2009 Carter-Batista Award, an award given to a player whose perceived value is most inflated by RBI. The winner was rumored to be acquired by the Rockies before the season, while Bengie Molina tops the three-year leaderboard.
The Hardball Times compares Jonathan Sanchez and Clayton Kershaw, noting both electric young NL West southpaws have something else in common - traffic on the basepaths. Who would you rather have on your team in 2010? Troy Patterson's answer may surprise you.
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Hawpe's projection
Do we buy this for a full year from him? Or was the second half the beginning signs of Atkins 2.0?
Now's the time to ship him. Any further regression
(if that’s what we’re seeing) will make it impossible to move him. And we are deep enough in OFers now. So let’s do it.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
by pedalpusher on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
no way in hell Todd doesn't OBP under .400
he’s the gawd dam Toddfather, you silly machines
I am the Knight Silverblood, chivalrously protecting right-minded people from the dangers of delusioned Yankees fans everywhere.
by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
that is I think I mean
no way in hell Todd OBPs under .400
silver’s brains <—- fried
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by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
I knew what you meant
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
oh good then, my work here is done
/falls over backwards
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by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Re: Star Power
Get used to this now, folks. If Tulo starts off 2010 with his typical dismal .220/.300/.350 line, nobody’s going to notice, follow, or bother with this team. He’s our biggest star.
This team is incredibly boring. Good, but boring. Everybody is decent-to-good, nobody is OMG, except Tulo, Ubaldo, and Street, but why bother following them when Derek Jeter just bought a small island somewhere?
Hope got in my eyes
This just in
Derek Jeter recognizes hyperbole, sneezes.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 9:00 AM MST up reply actions
I am going to miss Hi Corbett
I got to watch Friedrich pitch from directly behind home plate. I got to share a bench with Weathers. I got to have Quintanilla drool over my french fries as he walked by. I got to hear Embree joke that his arm was throwing bolts, just like the broken pitching machine. I got to see Woody Paige’s ridiculous calf muscles as he walked around the back fields.
There was so much fan interaction with the team at Hi Corbett. I sure hope they capture that in the new park (that and the free parking)
Hear you about Hi Corbett but it will be really nice to be able to take in other games as well.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
by pedalpusher on Nov 17, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
How come
EY and Barmes both have over 500 PAs? Will the Rockies be allowed to field 2 second baseman at a time next year? This will really help our ground-ball pitchers.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 9:53 AM MST reply actions
CHONE basically projects how many PAs a guy would get as a starter
more or less, some guys are still bench players, you know?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
That Seth Smith, he's so hot right now. Seth Smith.
Seth Smith is such a manbeast.
Eschew Obfuscation!
he's...pretty good?
what?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
That in and of itself is a felonious offense.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Nov 17, 2009 10:05 AM MST up reply actions
I really don't understand
The reverential reaction of people to that movie. I saw it. It was alright. But there seem to be a number of people who regard it as legendary that is not commensurate with its quality.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Cult films usually have this effect on those that aren't in on whatever brilliance they find in the text.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Well, I can usually understand why most "cult" films are that way
Regardless of whether I actually regard them as great. A couple examples would be Pulp Fiction and The Big Lebowski. Saw both. Didn’t think either was all that great, but I can understand why some would think so. Zoolander, not so much.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
Pulp Fiction and The Big Lebowski have become mainstream favorites.
Cult status is signified by mainstream denial, usually.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
By that standard
Big Lebowski – $17M gross, zero popularity until DVD
Zoolander – $60M gross, including multiple “MTV awards”
One is a cult film, the other doesn’t really fit the mold.
Pulp Fiction can only be classified as a cult film because of its subject matter and narrative style than anything else. It was nominated for multiple Academy Awards and should have won Best Picture.
Let me clarify:
Both Pulp Fiction amd The Big Lebowski WERE cult films. They are not anymore. Both films experience a pop renaissance about four years post-release, and now are both fairly well traveled.
Zoolander began as a mainstream success because of the star presence. It has since slipped into a niche of low-cult status with only a few devoted fans.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
I've basically just been here to post about transactions.
I generally tend to fade away during the end of the season, especially on a playoff situation, because the attendance surges, and I prefer smaller groups of posters.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
I don't see why we need to go the "crazy hat day at the office" routine.
The subject never changes from baseball. As long as the off topic discussions aren’t inflammatory (hence the unfortunate but admittedly necessary ban on politics), I find the off topic discussions here to be far more interesting than most baseball related ones. :D
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
I think that the random off-topic conversations are much better in a Rockpile than they would be in a specific thread. I think it would be really stilted in there.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
don't let me miss that
with my brain these days it’s entirely possible
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by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
you are a mean person
although at the rate my professors are piling on, that may be every day
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Trying to be
educated, sane, responsible, productive member of society yadda yadda
ov-er-rated amirite?
(please do not take anything I say today seriously, I am clinically braindead)
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Thankfully I took a couple of years off after my bachelor's
Now that my brain feels better and I remember what reading for pleasure feels like again, it’s time to get back on the horse.
That's precisely my plan.
Not heading straight to grad school. I want to get a grip on my financial situation/sanity first.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
History grad degree for you?
or something else?
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Oooh, sounds like fun
I’m hoping to torture edumacate college kids at some point myself
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I want to be one of those teachers that says
“okay kids, the Civil War was NOT about slavery!”
And then see their confused little faces…awwww….
Well, then, what was the
Civil War about? Sounds like someone is selling Lost Cause mythology to their students?
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As a person with that degree, let it be known that it’s a royal pain to find a job in that area. Around the Denver area, I was going up against 400 other applicants for the job.
It’s a great field, but I know too many other people who are great teachers, but cannot find a job doing it. If you go for it, make sure you know plenty of high school teachers willing to go to bat for you.
You know you want to check out Matt's Korea blog: http://koreamatt.wordpress.com
As for me, I'll be headed back to film school, or to some other media studies program.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
I did a film minor
(with an Italian major) but it was critical rather than practical, but that’s probably not what you would have been after? It was great, but really hard work – easily the most intellectual study I ever did.
I'm a critical studies major at USC.
I got my practical education in high school at Denver School of the Arts.
And for the record, I took 3 semesters of Italian. Penso che io non recordo molto. :(
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions
Goddamn all of you
55 new comments, 2 of them about baseball
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions
let's shoot for baseball talk
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
it's the offseason
we’re bored
shit happens
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OK
88 days until pitchers and catchers report
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
I love the offseason.
So many transactions happening. :D
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
I like the regular season much better
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
I love the intellectual side of film
I took several film classes, and showed up for screenings and lectures of other “film major only” classes. It was great, but I couldn’t afford a third major.
as a double major
I hear you
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okey dokey
Writing and History.
and this is coming from a small liberal arts school, too.
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Well, as much as I love history
I’m still not too sure where the practical part is…
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I meant your writing degree
trumps my Theatre degree. At least you write everyday, I gave up my dream of being a street performer years ago.
Speaking of writing
how’s the alternate-universe-historinerd-child-labor-whatever-else-was-in-there book going?
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Should hit 25,000 words sometime tomorrow
Now it involves time travel and future political ethics. It’s so much fun, I am writing whatever the hell I want.
and now I want to read it
any chance you can email it to me when you’re done?
it will be a total gas after my science class, trust me.
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It is potentially completely incoherent.
Sure, I can email it to you whenever it is done. Keep in mind I have never written anything even half as long as this before. Also, I am a terrible writer.
By the time you're done with it
I will be so loopy that I will probably think it is the best thing I’ve ever read.
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But you may underestimate my braindeadness
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You too could write every day, though.
Writing doesn’t get done unless you do.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Because education is good.
I’ll be going for a PhD. Eventually.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions
I think you would appreciate this
I saw a trailer for “Avatar” yesterday, as ‘from the Director of Aliens, Terminator 2, and…True Lies!’
I screamed out in the bar, “what about The Abyss??? Or even Titanic?”
No one else understood.
They took a generic approach as opposed to the prestige approach.
True Lies more closely fits the bill of Avatar than does The Abyss.
Plus, with the exception of its relevance to the progression of digital technology in filmmaking, The Abyss has been surprisingly forgotten by filmgoers as a whole. I was surprised how many of my peers here at USC had never heard of it.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe I haven't read enough about Avatar, then
It sounded more Abyss than True Lies from a plot/new world exploration standpoint.
And it is tragic that your peers had never heard of it.
The only similarities, really, are extracinematic.
Digital technology, for example. But most people watching the trailer won’t understand that both films are historically relevant to the digital age.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions
Zoolander is great
I wouldn’t say legendary, but great. But like many cult classics, takes several viewings to appreciate because you have to get beyond the plot and just enjoy the brilliance of the individual moments/scenes for themselves. You should listen to your friend Billy Zane…
I've been somewhat surprised by how strongly he projects for 2010,
given his relatively few career PA’s, I just thought it would bend even more toward average than it does.
Morillo was replaced on the roster by Matt Belisle.
It didn’t seem like a great move at the time. I wanted them to give Morillo a chance.
Anyway, in other news, half the Sky Sox were processed for minor league free agency today. Christian Colonel, Sal Fasano, Paul McAnulty, Damian Moss, Scott Munter, and Dan Ortmeier are all gone.
Belisle was a temporary placeholder.
That roster spot was intended for Hammel, it’s one of those issues where the technical means of the transactions end up being more confusing than the actual end.
I never understood that argument about Morillo. The Rockies gave him a chance. They gave him plenty of chances, and in fact, he had all Spring to convince the team that he was worth hanging on to. An inning or two more wouldn’t have proven anything at that point. The Rockies have absolutely been justified in their decision to let him go since then.
I'm pretty sure this was the plan before they even acquired Hammel.
After Spring Training, the only reason they took Morillo instead of Belisle was to give them a few extra days to look for a trade partner. Hammel may have changed those plans had they not chosen to send Morales on optional assignment for two weeks, as they’d have obviously picked Hammel over Belisle were they only dumping one of the two.
And I’m not saying the Rockies didn’t give him ANY chances. I think he earned a bullpen spot over Belisle (keeping in mind that I believe that was the intent before Hammel even entered the picture).
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions
lol
Toddfather with a Caught Stealling? Dear god if I ever hear a game where “Helton takes off to second” that will be the day.. not to mention it would take him a day to get to second :)
Ryan Howard stole a base
In the World Series
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Maybe he tries it against the Red Sox
They have problems throwing anyone out
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
Minor League Free Agency
Wolf, where did you get the info on the minor league free agents?
I can't really talk about that at the risk of getting in trouble, but below is a helpful link:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?cat=7
This blog isn’t updated daily, and it tends to lag around a week behind, especially in the offseason, but Matt Eddy posts every minor league transaction here eventually. It’s only updated through Nov 5th now, but if you check back in a few days, it should have another update.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
Fangraphs has a minor league FA list
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/minor-league-free-agents/
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Yeah, Speier seems to have declared today as well.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions
As did Kenny Perez.
The AAA transactions list now shows them filing on the eligibility date, the 9th. Looks like they’re all only getting processed now.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
MLB.com has a list
although I don’t know how up-to-date it is:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/y2009/free_agents.jsp
JFK
i'd be most happy
with those numbers from stewart and ianetta.
watch this space for a soon to be created clever remark....
I would like to see what CHONE projected for Torrealba just for fun :-)
but yeah I like those projections. Apparently it dosn’t hate all young players
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.baseballprojection.com/2010/free2010.htm
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions
I guess we know who CHONE thinks should start next year
If Torre comes back that is
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
I can't believe I misspelled
Greinke’s name.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
(I used"Tulowitzky" through the All Star Break 2007)
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
Too late.
I also fell victim to the “Ianetta” phenomenon, but I corrected that more quickly.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
I had that particular issue too, as Russ has reminded me
even though I successfully blocked it out of my memory for a time. Now apparently, I mainly have to get over my “cachet” issue, until the next one that will inevitably come up and get corrected in some humiliating fashion by this harsh mistress we call the Internet.
Everyone's a grammar critic on the internet.
Thankfully, I’m harder on myself in that department than anyone else. I do get the frustrating urge to correct ever “Houston Street”, even when I know they’re on purpose.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
hell I'm a grammar critic in real life too
one of those annoying people who squawks and squawks about misused apostrophes
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by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
I can usually hold my tongue, except in your/you're and their/there/they're issues.
Of, and lose/loose, a popular one on sports blogs. :D
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
lose/loose drives me NUTS
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I can't stand when people misuse good and well
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
I hate it when people overcorrect
And say things like “it was going well between he and I”. Object follows preposition! Stupid hypothetical idiots.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
It's our English now, chump
So are you actually English? If so, how come you’re on a baseball forum and not on one for Cricket or Rounders or whatever the sack?
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
Cricket's fine, but it's no baseball, is it?
I also have a massive crush on the US and it’s my favourite place to visit, whether Denver or Western Mass or Arizona or NYC of the Nevada desert. You’ve got quite a country there.
I like British things
I need to visit sometime. I hope that everyone speaks like it’s a PG Wodehouse novel.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
Unfortunately, they don't
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I know
I miss Oxford like my right arm
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Well we stole most of it
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions
What am I saying we stole all of it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
Ooooh
how about “lesser” and “fewer?”
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Yeah
ats the one mate
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Me too
And, as seen above, I’m not too proud to correct myself.
by controlled_slide on Nov 17, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions
no other defensible choice on the planet
although I am admittedly shocked they realised that
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by Silverblood on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not too shocked they got this one right but I am nervous about the MVP race
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
Mauer and Pujols are SUCH gimmes
even they couldn’t screw that up…..
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I bet the AL race will be closer than you think
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Derek Jeter!!!11
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Yeah, that'll work too...
/climbs back in from 12th story window
/removes “Mauer For MVP” shirt
/exposes “Gold Glove 4 Tulo” shirt
I want a "Gold Glove 4 Tulo" shirt
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
I'd settle for a Gold Glove 4 Tulo
No shirt necessary.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
I hope not but he has won what four Gold Gloves
I try to never underestimate stupidity
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
it hurts cause it’s true
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I think you just described the city of New York
Well about 90% of it anyway
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
I'll forgive its stupidity
as I’m very much looking forward to spending my Thanksgiving break in the city with my sister
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That sounds like a good time
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Oh it will be
Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, football and pizza, and Hamlet on Broadway. plus just hanging out. :)
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I'm not much of a parade guy, unless it's a Rockies World Sreies parade
But the the other stuff sounds awesome. Sometimes hanging out is the best part.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions
Lots and lots of football is the important part
she has a TV and I don’t, so last time I was down there (during the World Series) we spent a whooole lotta time watching sports.
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But I want to do all of it
and not do homework. yeah, THAT is the ticket.
Waiting out the Rockies' offseason by watching the Broncos succeeding at not failing to fail once the giddy rush of success has failed.
Unfortunately the first two games on Thanksgiving kind of suck
But that Broncos Giants game should be a wild one. I’m sure that’s the one you care about anyway.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
Derek Jeter gets a Yankees bonus.
It’s complete trash.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 17, 2009 6:38 PM MST up reply actions
Good choice
Though I wouldn’t have shed a single tear if Felix won.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Nov 17, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions
Yep and some Yankee fans are not happy about it
Idiots
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
Lemme guess
they thought CC should win it over Grein…
HAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
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They probably think Burnett deserved it over Greinke too. After all, only the Yankees are important.
by Greg Stanwood on Nov 17, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
And whatsisname
the chimneysweep
Phil Coke
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A-Rod
must be taking it hard.
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welp
TWSS
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My thoughts exactly
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions
Oh yeah
They think “CC Sabathia had to pitch in the AL East and the better hitters there more than make up for the difference in Sabathia’s and Greinke’s numbers” Plus Sabathia had three more wins which they seem to think is very important.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
They're Yankees fans
abstract concepts are beyond their grasp
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Well beyond their grasp
They also think the Giants would be willing to trade Matt Cain for Robinson Cano because they neeeeeed offense. Even they don’t need it that bad.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
I can't see anything wrong with that
why wouldn’t the Giants want to give up their co-Cy Young pitcher for Princess Robinson?
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Hell
while the Yanks are offering premium talent, why don’t they just go ahead and ask for that Linecum dude? The one who was busted smoking pot? Giants probably want to get rid of him now, right?
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Any while they are at it they should see if they can rescue Joe Mauer from that backwater known as Minnesota
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
And Albert Pujols
from wherever he plays that’s not New York
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And Troy Tulowitzki because..............
wait half of them don’t know who that is yet
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
SACRILEGE
SACRILEGE
how dare you ever suggest there’s a good shortstop that wears #2 aside from JETER
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Well I guess he's not that good after all
I mean Jeter won a Gold Glove this year and he didn’t
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
Yankeefanlogic'd
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and Matt Holliday needs a new home
after failing to catch fly balls with his crotch
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
by Rawktober on Nov 17, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No big Rockies news but John Heyman has some good numbers here on some big offseason stories
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/11/12/gm.meetings/index.html
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 17, 2009 7:36 PM MST reply actions
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