Friday Rockpile: Free Agency period starts today
by Russ Oates on Nov 20, 2009 6:43 AM MST
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Rockies Atkins awaiting "another team" - The Denver Post
Renck's blog post about the decision to not release Garrett Atkins today turned into a regular article, but it's the first four words that made me stop for a moment. Clint Barmes, 30, is not the future. He's a stopgap until the Rockies can handle the issue internally. Maybe that'll take a year or two, but representing the future gives off a whole different connotation.
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Makes you wonder what would have happened in 2007 had the Rockies not waited 105 days to start the World Series.
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John Heyman tweets:
free agency starts today. my early calls: holliday $120 mil, lackey $90 mil, bay $85 mil, figgins $45 mil
I think Figgins will make the 5/60 he's looking for
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
im thinking he gets 4/40 or 5/50
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
the mets are interested in him
that has to add another 2M per year to whatever contract he gets.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
yea
i was just saying thats what i think he will get because i believe he is staying in LA
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
which isn't a bad call
I don’t know why this just popped into my head, but I’ve heard rumblings of the Royals shifting Alex Gordon over to 1B…which would mean 3B is open…
chone figgins is a 3B…
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 8:58 AM MST up reply actions
hmm its a possibility
who knows where anybody is going to go thats what makes this time of year so fun haha
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 AM MST up reply actions
It would be funny if the Phils and Mets got into a bidding war for him
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder how many years each of those are
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions
I'm a film/TV agent, not a baseball one
So I’m afraid I don’t know – indeed I reckon 90% of my fellow PR posters will have a much better idea!
yup, I knew you weren't
a baseball agent, I just thought you might have a gut feeling about it. Seems like some of the same “tactics” ( bad word but can’t think of another at present) might be in both fields. You are familiar with some of Boras’s deals in the past and I just thought you might have a feel for the final outcome. Anyway, it will be interesting..:)
Ah I get you
Well, I don’t think Holliday is a supersuperstar. I also think the ManRam/Dodgers battle last year was a bit of a blow for Boras and perhaps leaves him a little vulnerable, though this is likely to be irrelevant in the context of the Holliday deal as he is definitely the most valuable slugger on the market.
I reckon something in the region of 5/105.
$120 million seems way too high
Wasn’t he sort of exposed the first half of last year?
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
He has the "switch to AL, switch to pitcher's park" defense.
He’s still valued pretty high.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Boras: Matt, we have an offer for $100 million. Were you thinking over or under? Over or under Matt? Matt, over or under!!!! Lookout!!!!
/Cardinals lose
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
New setting, weak lineup, pitchers park, and small sample size
At least that’s what I think Boras will say. Oh and the McGwire thing
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions
I'd say in the neighborhood of 6/120
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Nov 20, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
That's a pretty penny
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:29 PM MST up reply actions
He may not get as much now that a couple of teams are already saying they're not in the running
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
The Yankees, Red Sox and Mets still in the running
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Mets already claimed to be out
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
I don't believe them :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
Especially this year with all the expected non-tenders and arbitration decisions. Aside from those top 4 or 5 guys I wouldn’t expect a ton of movement until after Dec 12.
by Hizilla on Nov 20, 2009 7:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
exactly
the winter meetings are when things get exciting
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 AM MST up reply actions
I meant more
that the 12th would be when everyone knows who will actuall all be on the market. But the meetings are fun too. You should go stake out the hotel lobby and tweet your observations.
by Hizilla on Nov 20, 2009 12:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Barmes has been the future 2b
whether you like it or not since at least 2006. Not that I’ll have a problem with it but if EY2 is bust, I could see Barmes play until he’s 34 with the Rockies.
Time for a viscous trade rumor.
Halliday is traded for Atkins and cash considerations. Dan O’Dowd commenting on his genius of getting the Blue Jay new GM Alex Anthopoulos to trade after challenging him to a drinking contest at the Winter Meetings. " It was pure luck, I didn’t think any rookie GM would fall for this trap but I guess I got lucky! Bring on Theo, baby, and I’ll get Beckett!" At this point in the interview O’Dowd staggered back to his room to sleep off the effects of the drinking contest.
Making facetious trade rumors since 2012AD
Lol
Yeah…he needed to be canned. I love the name of the website.
“We are smarter than you. And more drunk. Go Blue Jays!”
Making facetious trade rumors since 2012AD
Clint Barmes is the future?
God help us all.
Seriously, if the Rockies’ future is retaining, through overpaying, “Coors field specialists” who are mediocre on the road and a liabiltiy in the playoffs, then their future will look a lot like their past: no division championships, with rare playoff success in the occasional years when they can grab a wildcard berth.
The Rockies seriously overvalue Barmes. He’s a defensive specialist who hits a lot of popups and fly balls and strikes out a lot. His career OBP is awful. His home-road splits are awful. His one offensive attribute is that some of his fly balls make it to the seats in Coors Field. That may endear him to the Rockies, but it doesn’t make him valuable to other teams. And it hurts the Rockies on the road and in the playoffs, where Barmes is simply out of his league in batting against top pitching.
I wouldn’t mind Barmes in the “Q role” as utility guy/pinch hitter. Some of his long popups will reach the seats as PH, and he’d be great as a late-inning defensive replacement. Barmes would even be adequate, for the Rockies, as a fill-in for awhile (like the last 2 years, after Matsui left) regular-season 2B, given his defensive prowess & the Rockies’ emphasis on ground-ball pitchers.
But the Rockies willl never reach the Phillies/Dodgers/Angels level as perennial division champs and legit. World Series title contenders if they’re satisfied with Barmes as a longterm starting 2B.
From a pure business sense, what they’re doing with Barmes isn’t smart. His value in the free agent market is limited. Look at his road offensive stats & think about what other teams would pay for a defensive specialist with those numbers. They’re a dime-a-dozen at 2B. Barmes is going to get more dimes from the Rockies than he’s worth.
Word is a 2 year contract with an option on the 3rd.
For a local homegrown awesome gloveman, that doesn’t sound terribly out of line. He works well up the middle with Tulowitzki, and he does have some decent SLG. We could do far worse, and who knows, maybe by 2011 he’ll be transitioning to the utility role, maybe even beginning a platoon with [somebody].
Just keep him in the 7 hole for God’s sake.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
I agree
2B is area where the team could obviously upgrade. I wonder if the Rockies are worried that the arb panel will look more at his 23 dingers and less at his barely 300 OBP, and therefore are trying to get something of a discount by picking up a FA year.
well, we've discussed 2B pretty regularly here
I want Felipe Lopez, but there’s a better chance he sucks than there is he’s awesome.
Who should we be looking at?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
That's been our conclusion, hasn't it?
There are several people who would be an upgrade, but not enough of one to be worth the cost.
I would love if Barmes had an OBP above .300, but the reality is, with all of his flaws, he isn’t a bad 2nd baseman. He just isn’t.
Barmes is in a middle zone for me, where I think fans seriously underrate his contributions, while the front office is seriously overrating them simultaneously.
I do not have a problem with Barmes being our starting second baseman next year, should other options be unreasonable. I don’t think he is “out of his league”, I simply think he’s got a lot of obvious weaknesses. A lot of players do. We could have a better second baseman than Barmes, but Barmes is capable of more than is regularly acknowledged.
At the same time, I DO have a problem with Barmes being penciled in as our starting second baseman for a while, and being considered “the future”.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
Everyone is banking on Hector Gomez being "the future"
but best guess is that won’t be here until late 2011, correct?
(I personally want to package Morales and Nelson and see what we can catch)
/ducks
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
Until we have an actual bullpen assembled, I don't let Morales go anywhere.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
The plan is to stretch him out so we have another option if we need a starter.
He will be in the pen unless Francis refresses or another pitcher gets hurt. Guarantee it.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
I still see him as a starter but we'll see
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions
and Bucky coming back as well
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
I don't expect either Weathers or Brothers to be ready to start the year.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
Correct. Buchholz will still be rehabbing at that point.
Optimistic return is late May. Pessmistic return is post-All Star break. Most likely somewhere in mid June.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
Weathers is behind schedule..
he hasn’t even updated his blog since May 11th.
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hahaha
clearly the indicator of rehab schedule
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:24 PM MST up reply actions
He would get cut...
If he tried that at Purple Row!
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/whistles inconspicuously
/hopes nobody notices the extra week lags between articles
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2009 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
Trade for Brandon Wood
I don’t know what the angels are looking to acquire, but with vlad leaving they need a dh, correct? We’ve decided Hawpe would be best as a dh, correct? Can we please do this?
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
I don't think this is that outlandish
I’m worried about how much the Angels like to cling to their prospect though
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
well
While I’m not the biggest barmes fan, he’s a known quantity and plus defender. I do seem to think that giving him a multi-year extension says more about prospects in the system than it does about clint. I also don’t see anyone signable for equal cost that would be at least equal defense & an improvement offensively.
Seems like they’ll slowly move clint from start into bench defense as the replacement (Gomez) gets major league ready. If the team can overproduce offensively at 2b, 3b & catcher (which i think they can) then it should make up for less offense at second
I'm assuming you mean overproduce at SS, 3b and C?
If Stewie and CDI produce closer to their expectations, we can afford to have a low OBP popup machine athe bottom of the lineup
oops
that is what i meant. if tulo, stew & cdi produce then barmes’ “bat” is less of an issue. 2010 is the year stew & cdi have to step up for a full year though.
This is exactly my thought
Barmes is who he is, and that is fine if Stew and CDI are hitting well. He is not fine if those guys struggle. I’m not sure its a good idea to project the team this way but absent other obvious options I’m pretty resigned to it. I still hold out that EY2 can take over sometime this year, but I guess that doesn’t seem to be a notion that many are backing.
I think that lead-in to the article
was just Renck’s way of being clever, providing a contrast to Atkins being the past. I really don’t think the Rockies see Barmes as the “future” as we generally think of it, unless you define it as “best option for the next couple years.”
Well he could've chosen a better player
Saying Tulo is the future will not stop any Rockies fans hearts like saying Barmes is the future does.
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I agree with some of this but stronglydisagree with the conclusion
You say the rockies can never be at the phillies level with a no bat/all glove man? Ever geare of Pedro feliz? Barmes essentially filled that role, except feliz was in a more offensively premium position. I’ve brought this up before, but having a slightly below average bat with a wizard glove as your EIGHTH best hitter does not preclude a team from elite success. Not even close
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 11:54 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Feliz was not an automatic out in the playoffs
Indeed, he contributed several key hits, including against the Rockies.
Barmes, nothing.
Barmes is not as bad as he shoed in the playoffs
Who knows, maybe he hits a lot of those HR’s down the stretch next year. You can’t predict when a player will get hot or go cold
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
I think the vast majority of us predicted he would go oh-for the series
mainly because of the pitching matchups. We lost because no one remembered how to hit except for Cargon, not because of Barmes.
But Barmes was better against lefties
I didn’t expect much I just didn’t expect an O-for. And I agree that he’s not the main reason we loast the series
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Less that they were lefties
More that they all threw awesome sliders-in-the-dirt all the time. The pitch that makes Barmes’ bat sad.
Fair enough
I just think you can’t really predict an O-for
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
probably not
barmes has been consistently horrible in the second half pretty much his entire career.
So maybe we should take what we can get in the first half and trade for a 2B around the ASB
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
yup, maybe we could
just give a 1st half contract to Marquis… and/or rest Tulo for a couple months after spring training? lol
Not a bad idea
Judgeing by his career numbers I think it’s possible that Tulo thinks the season starts in June
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions
162>>>>>4
You just can’t make a small sample size significant. Otherwise, Todd helton, Jason hammel, and Huston street should be looking for jobs elsewhere too. The players are who they are
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 3:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
That's what makes baseball so beautiful and frustrating at the same time though isn't it
We get all this data from a 162 game sample and then the playoffs start and we make a small sample size worth everything
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
maybe a little
His wOBA was within about five points of league average most of the year until the end. I’m not saying he is a savior, and I’m open to upgrading, but having your weakest hitter at 17 wOBA points below league average isn’t the horrifyinglt huge black hole many people seem to tnink it is
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 3:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
A name that could fit RHB off bench (as I scroll through Passan's free agent list on Yahoo)...
Fernando Tatis. Did this guy’s name get mentioned some place? He would fit the corners in the infield and outfield and swings an okay bat. What do you guys think?
I got nothing.
I think 2008 was a flash in the pan, a swan song if you will, and he got an extra year of pay for it
Not a terrible idea though, provided he’s cool with being a PH first and a corner position player second.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
Valid point...
I, like the rest of us, have no idea where it is going to go. Just want to make sure all names are out there some place so there is no surprises
I got nothing.
ugh, he killed us last year
Remember that granny Morales gave up to him to lose a game at Shea (or whatever the new stadium is called)?
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
I mentioned the idea of Tatis on my last podcast
but that had less to do with his skills and more to do with his at-bat music. He comes to the plate to the Superman theme.
His number don’t look too bad to me on offense, adequate for a PH/injury insurance at the corners. He only made 3 errors last year while playing 6 different positions. He won’t screw up the routine plays but he certainly doesn’t have the range he once did. Might not be a bad guy to have if he comes relatively cheap and would sign a one-year deal. I believe he’ll be 35 when the season begins. I don’t want to give a guy a deal that has him as our backup 3B at age 37. But then again… Superman.
by RockiescastScott on Nov 20, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
I belive Clint Barmes is the future
Teach him well and leeeeeheeeet him lead the way.
Show him all the beauty he posseses insiiiiihide
Give him a sense of pride
To make it easier
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 10:13 AM MST reply actions
Let our laughter remind us how we used to be
actually we’ve never had a really good 2B I don’t think
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Mike Lansing! lol
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
hahaha
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
I decided long ago
Never to walk, in Todd Walker’s shadow
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
ahh yes Todd Walker
was the man
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
JOSE ORTIZ!!!
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 4:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Can Clint Barmes’ nickname be Sexual Chocolate?
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
the royal bat is clean, your majesty
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
You all know him
as Joe the Policeman from the “What’s goin’ down” episode of That’s My Mama…
And when he hits a fastball out to left, we can say “that boy’s good!”
And when he strikes out on a breaking ball in the dirt a foot outside, we can say “good and terrible.”
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
Royals picking the minor league free agent pool clean.
Bellorin, Betemit, Thompson, now Campillo all sign minor league deals.
Which doesn't exist in the first place.
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by Russ Oates on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting, Heman's bringing up Luis Castillo for Kevin Millwood
why on EARTH would Texas need Luis Castillo?
Hope got in my eyes
lol yea that makes no sense at all
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
and Heman is usually very good and smart
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 20, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
"/>
Gems from Heyman
things minaya can get for luis castillo: sunflower seeds, a donut, an assistant clubbie. what he cant get: kevin millwood.
response TO heyman
Millwood > castillo = FAIL. Millwood had 4.80 FIP. W/L means nothing. Castillo .387 OBP at scarce position
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
atta kid
glad to hear it for his sake
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions
Can I start the Wang bandwagon?
I would much rather see him a Rockie than a Dodger. Although he stands to make more in endorsements back home if he were to be in LA.
by Hizilla on Nov 20, 2009 12:27 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, and I never slice.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Nov 20, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
I completely endorse this
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
AKA the Wangwagon? Or the Bandwangon?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
nothing sits right about "The Wangwagon"
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions
just so that i dont get yelled at again for correctly noting that Chien-Ming was getting hit hard
Even if I did use his last name
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 4:10 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
just when
…i had been enjoying this place and almost got comfortable.
wow…can’t hang…very clever
by holidayelsie on Nov 20, 2009 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
in purple pinstripes
oh yeah
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Random Rockies note
In his ESPN.com chat today, Keith Law was talking about his NL Cy Young ballot and basically said Ubaldo would have been 6th or 7th.
I must have missed that
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions
It was pretty easy to miss if you weren't reading carefully.
It was a really short answer to a question on whether he had Carpenter 4th, he then said he would have had Haren 5th leaving out Johnson and Ubaldo.
which is pretty fair, imo
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions
law was also on outside the lines today
Defending his votes, as Vasquez got his second place vote, the only vote Javier got. Tim Kurkjian them said something about how some people evidently need to pay less attention to numbers and watch games
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 3:50 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
he's still eligible to sign a MLB deal, right?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Not sure what you mean.
He can be signed to a major league deal if the team chooses to take him out of Spring Training, yes. Or do you mean something else?
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions
by another team
he’s still an FA, right?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
No.
He signed a minor league deal today, as said in my initial post.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
so why would he elect FA
only to sign a minor league deal with the same team the first day of free agency? what am I missing?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Many players elect minor league free agency after being outrighted, only to sign with their original team.
In fact, Jonathan Herrera did the same thing just last year. Phillips likes our organization, and wanted to return.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
why not just take the assignment to AAA?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Agent's advice? Uncertainty of contract security? It could be any number of reasons.
Players do that all the time.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions
OK
Well, having said all that, I for one, am glad he’s back.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti
Looks like the White Sox are interested in Omar Vizquel
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 2:13 PM MST reply actions
Or rather, they ARE close to a deal with him.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions
Anybody in the AL Central is a contender.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, Virginia, even the Royals
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
I wouldn't go that far
Anybody in the AL Central not named the Royals is a contender.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
Why? They have Gordon Beckham and Alexei Ramirez at that spot.
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
Omar understands he's a utility guy at this point in his career
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:25 PM MST up reply actions
That what?
We already had a Matsui
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 20, 2009 3:57 PM MST up reply actions
buy a new clock then, good lord
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
A sign that Japan
produces long lasting clocks and players :)
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Those added: McKenry, Roe, Escalona, Niscaio and Alburquerque. Garner left unprotected.
Nicasio is a surprise.
I don’t even believe he was eligible for the draft.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions
It seems he was signed a lot earlier than he actually started playing, so he is eligible.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions
Not that I know of.
The Rockies don’t usually go that way, but they have two spots to play around with draftees should they choose to.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
Who's the last rule 5 acquisition for the Rockies?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions
I don't believe there's been one since I started paying attention to the Rockies in 2006.
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 4:34 PM MST up reply actions
either Marcos carvajal or Luis Gonzalez, i think
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Apparently we purchased him from the Brewers
who Rule 5’d him from the Dodgers
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
Who, carvajal?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 21, 2009 7:36 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
either Marcos carvajal or Luis Gonzalez, i think
;)
by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 4:40 PM MST up reply actions
It still works as me copying Poseidon's answer.
:D
by WolfMarauder on Nov 21, 2009 12:17 AM MST up reply actions
I laughed, and I think most people will get it anyhow
btw I hid it, I usually hide DPs as I see them
both doubleposts and denver post commenters
kidding!
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 21, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
So Josh Johnson of the Marlins may get traded:
Jerry Crasnick is reporting that contract extension talks between Josh Johnson and the Marlins have reached an impasse, and that the righthander will not agree to a new deal with the team at all.
Based on our conversations, there’s no chance of doing a long-term deal with the Marlins," [Johnson’s agent Matt] Sosnick said. "We made it clear that it was going to be this year or it wasn’t going to happen. It was now or never. And the Marlins agreed.
Sosnick says that Johnson made it clear he wanted to remain with the team, “but they just weren’t comfortable going to the fourth year.” Marlins’ GM Michael Hill wouldn’t comment on the negotiations as per team policy.
The 25-year-old Johnson had a 3.23 ERA in 33 starts for the Marlins this year, making his first All Star Team. The righty earned $1.45MM in 2009, and has two more years of arbitration eligibility remaining before he hits the free agent market. Sosnick added that given his age and performance, Johnson’s next contract could be worth nine figures.
How would THIS effect the market for Halladay?
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2009 7:27 PM MST reply actions
you just stay the hell out of the NL West, Johnson.
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by The Lodo Magic Man on Nov 20, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
or COME to the NL West...
just come here
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind him
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM MST up reply actions
A small note:
I had my user name changed to Russ Oates. Since my full name’s been out there over the past couple of years I had the tech team change my moniker.
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by WolfMarauder on Nov 20, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions
He spells Oates with an 'E'?
Unclean, unclean!
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dun dun DUNNNNNNN
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 PM MST up reply actions
So is the the next step in your plan to take oaver the world? :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 22, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions
Who's to say
that I don’t already rule the world?
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Russ, your famous namesake, Captain Oates
Went to my brother’s school and lived a few hundred yards from my house. Are you related?
I'm not aware
of any family relation, nor do I believe I am related to Titus Oates who engineered the Popish Plot.
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how about Adam Oates
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Convinced
my 8th grade English teacher that I was on the first day of class back in 1998. She was a big hockey fan from what I remember.
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Ireland totally got jobbed on that World Cup qualifier..
I just wanted to add my two cents into your World Soccer blurb.
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So it takes Mike Scoscia complaining
and probably the Yanks too, for Selig to decide that the schedule has a negative effect on play in the post season. Figures….
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Sad but true
But at this point I don’t care what it took. Those extra off days were taking stratagy out of playoff series. I just giddy that the problem is going to get fixed.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 21, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
True indeed..
btw…just noticed your sig lin changes…I’m thinking that Bud Selig gave them a gift with purchase…
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
As long as he didn't give them a buy one get one free deal
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 22, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
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