Monday Rockpile: Unnamed NL West team interested in Yorvit Torrealba

by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 7:24 AM MST in Rockpile

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Unless Torrealba returns to the Rockies, it's hard to say that Chris Iannetta won't be the starting catcher next season. Paul Phillips? Brian Schneider? Nice backups.

Troy Renck believes that the NL West team that is interested in Torrealba is San Francisco. Torrealba played for the Giants from 2001 to 2005. Who can't wait to see the fights on McCovey Chronicles over the Posey v. Torrealba debate? Something about dirigibles, fires, explosions, etc.

Renck also mentions Bobby Crosby and Fernando Tatis as right-handed bench bats. Tatis was the subject of a comment thread in a Rockpile a few days ago. As for Crosby, remember about four years ago when it was sort of a good thing to compare Troy Tulowitzki to Crosby? How much things have changed.

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Troy Renck

says Ianetta is enjoying a strong off season…is he playing somewhere?

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 8:37 AM MST reply actions

I noticed that too. Perhaps it's strong because his only realistic competition is being touted to all and sundry?

by biondino on Nov 23, 2009 8:42 AM MST up reply actions

I doubt Renck would hail "sitting around and watching Torrealba not sign with Colorado" as "strong"

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:25 AM MST up reply actions

Are you suggesting he's playing winter baseball?

Or maybe even a different sport altogether? Lacrosse? Wrestling? Yngling class sailing? Enquiring minds want to know!

by biondino on Nov 23, 2009 9:31 AM MST up reply actions

probably winter baseball

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions

where?

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions

Not according

to this.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 AM MST up reply actions

ok, so where is he enjoying a strong offseason then?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 AM MST up reply actions

Ask Renck?

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions

I am

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:48 AM MST up reply actions

I saw that , that's why I was asking where..

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 AM MST up reply actions

why did you move my post

I beat RMN. The only time and you moved it bleh

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 10:05 AM MST up reply actions

moved your post?

we can’t move posts…

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions

Really

All I know is that when i first entered my post it was placed directly under Russ and the yours. When i refreshed it was under your and Russ’s exchange…..thus moved.

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions

we can't move posts

the thing is that Russ posted before you, but your browser hadn’t refreshed to show as such yet.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions

beat me? were we competing in something?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions

No --I was just trying to type faster etc.

It was my own personal race…silly I know, but I have been trying to be more accurate and faster in my posts. I have severe arthritis in my hands and this is a goal of mine.

by butterfly on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions

oof, sorry to heart that

don’t worry, I’ll be seeing your “first” comments in gameday threads soon enough

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions

Ugh, did you notice the lowlights of that link?

Mckenry – .173 avg
Chacin – 6.48 ERA in 5 starts

and the great Alan Johnson has an ERA of 18.00!!

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions

Are you telling me that

the higher a pitcher’s ERA is the worse he is? What is this now, golf?

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 AM MST up reply actions

chacin, rogers, and deduno's K/BB have me pleased

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 AM MST up reply actions

and that Mr. Al Alburquerque.

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions

yeah, his 7.0IP look good

it’s just not much playing time to really get a handle on

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions

Small Sample Size

At least that’s what I hope

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 9:52 AM MST up reply actions

Nice work Wilin and Matt.

The rest of you winter baseball bums need to sharpen up!

by biondino on Nov 23, 2009 9:50 AM MST up reply actions

sort of

not liking the strike outs from Wilin.

by mkorpal on Nov 23, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions

if he posts a .917 OPS in the majors

he can punch out as much as he wants to

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:01 AM MST up reply actions

Ahhh, I don't like it...looks to be unsustainable BABIP?

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by Mondogarage on Nov 25, 2009 8:30 AM MST up reply actions

He's only had one season in the minors..

with an OPS higher than .701 to this point. So maybe he’s maturing, but I’m also a little skeptical at this point.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 25, 2009 9:00 AM MST up reply actions

either way, it's a good blip, not a Mckenry blip.

by biondino on Nov 25, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions

I heard he's selling Oven mitts in the offseason..

and his numbers are off the charts. He strikes out a lot, but when he gets a customer, it’s a BIG sale!

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

Word is he's at home in Providence working on his swing and clearing his head.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions

I havn't seen him around here :-)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions

If someone does sign Torrealba

I hope they do it before Dec. 1st. It sure would be nice to get a pick out of this.

by mkorpal on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 AM MST reply actions

did we offer him arm, or just a contract

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 AM MST up reply actions

The Rockies offered

Torrealba a new arm?

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions

probably could use it

man, I could’ve sworn I typed “arb”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions

You have RhodeIslandRoxfan disease

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions

should've skipped the lobster

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions

Good job

And no, but if he signs elsewhere before the Dec. 1st deadline, it’s a moot point, and we get the pick.

by mkorpal on Nov 23, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions

Which is precisely why it'd be ridiculous for any team other than the original to sign a Type A or B free agent right now.

Though apparently, Sabean is infamous for doing just this.

by Greg Stanwood on Nov 23, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions

Got a chuckle from this MLBTR comment on the Torry story

Sabean: Hey there Yorvit, how are things?
Torrealba: Who is this?
Sabean: Good, good…look, im not gonna beat around the bush…i want you back on this team.
Torrealba: Whats that, you want me on which team…who the hell is this?
Sabean: What would you say if we are willing to give you 3 year 25MM contract? Is that something you’d be interested in?
Torrealba: Iannetta?! IS that you, stop playin’ ma…
Sabean: Great! See you in Scottsdale!
Torrealba: Scottsdale??? We train in Tucson…

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"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart." - A. Bartlett Giamatti

by Rawktober on Nov 23, 2009 9:32 AM MST reply actions

HA

“If you’re gonna pull this crap you could’ve at least said you were with the Yankees”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:33 AM MST up reply actions

I liked your Dex post on DraysBay..

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 AM MST up reply actions

:D

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 AM MST up reply actions

Did anyone not get B,D,D,B,D in the Rockies fanpoll?

In particular, did anyone not get B for the first one?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 9:55 AM MST reply actions

I can't remember the question.

But that is what I got. I also laughed at the Dex for gold glove thing.

by mkorpal on Nov 23, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions

Best game of the year

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions

Oh yeah

Spilly

by mkorpal on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions

I turned it off before the SpillySlam

so my vote has to go to the CDI Walkoff, that terrible, nail-biting excruciating game. Or the Betancourt strikeout…

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions

I wanted to post CDI walkoff just to be contentious

but SpillySlam is the answer.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:09 AM MST up reply actions

Game of the Year, yeah

Game-of-the-Year-I-actually-watched-straight-through-without-getting-pissed-off-and-going-to-bed-cranky is the CDI walkoff.

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions

I remember walking to the bathroom between innings

thinking “I bet Iannetta does something big here”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions

To be fair, you do that all the time.

Christmas dinner, you will excuse yourself from the table and mutter under your breath “I bet CDI does something big right here…”

Amirite?

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions

I'm picturing him breaking through my parents' picture windows

wearing a red bandanna, fatigues and a black tshirt and like shooting up the room, tragically ending the lives of many of my loved ones and destroying all of the presents. He grabs a drumstick and mutters “Merry f***ing Christmas” as he gets airlifted back out.

as I return to the room, my eyes glaze over as my mind tries to comprehend the wanton slaughter laying before me.

“He came!”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

OH!

You mean like this?

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions

no not really

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions

And then

every year you meet the ghost of Iannetta Claus.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 10:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions

I should really do a "Baseball Season Carol"

to go along with the “‘What day is it, boy?’ ‘Why, it’s opening day!’” thing

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions

wow, Iannetta's a jerk

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 23, 2009 10:54 AM MST up reply actions

for the record, this was really funny in my mind

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions

I give you absolute props for it

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions

I'm gonna watch that youtube link when I get home

no sound at work. Also, I’m at work, so this is risky enough

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions

The music makes it funny

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions

the kicking the grandma in the face makes it funny

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions

from my initial viewing

(I dragged it into the corner of the screen and kind of half watched)

the guy’s lack of reaction of the grandma kicking makes it funny, as well as the way the dude’s just dripping late-70s “cool”

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:27 AM MST up reply actions

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 11:34 AM MST up reply actions

haha!

Iannetta looks flat out evil in that photo, even when not considering the laser tommy gun.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 23, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions

You didn't get-pissed-off-and-go-to-bed-cranky

when Street blew the save?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions

Well, there are different magnitudes of cranky

The kind I always am, and then about three levels above it. The possibility of losing to the Giants is higher than a game-tying and inconceivable homer by Jason F’in Kendall.

Well, maybe. I still don’t know how that happened.

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions

Maybe the Kendall HR was more shock than anger

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions

Was the Betancourt one where the Rockies almost let it get away? Doom Bomb was another one where they held the lead, then it got tied up, then Chris came through.

Marquis’ CG shutout is up there, but there’s less emotional attachment to a player that won’t be around next year.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Nov 23, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions

Yeah, he came in to clean up the Morales Meltdown

I believe it ended with an 8 or 9 pitch at bat, tying and winning runs in scoring position.

Strike 3. Everyone breathes again.

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions

I actually voted for the Tulo single the following night...

A few reasons:
back to back nights ending on late heroics
beating the Dodgers is better than beating the Gints
I LOVED Tulo herding the celebration to the outfield afetr getting lectured about blocking the umps exit after the SpillySlam
it was Tulo

Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.

by RdRnnr on Nov 23, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions

This game was the crest...

of the emotional awesomeness wave. I loved Tulo’s reaction pointing at the bench.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions

Love how you were able to use the words

“emotional awesomeness wave” in a sentence.

I think the team ran out of gas for a few days after that game.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions

It's like surfing..

you sit out bobbing in the ocean as the surge of the sea builds up higher and higher until it picks you up and crests into a pouring foam of seawater. Either you catch it and ride into shore, or get thrown to the bottom of the sea as thousands of gallons of water crash on top of you.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions

I laughed

At the MVP options. Do people really think that De La Rosa and Marquis were more valuable pitchers than Ubaldo?

by controlled_slide on Nov 23, 2009 1:33 PM MST up reply actions

WINS

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 23, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions

Here's a poll that might be closer

What was the worst game of the regular season.?

A) May 19th: 8-1 Atlanta (Tulo is later benched for grounding into DP on first pitch)
B) May 25th: 16-6 Dodgers (Memorial Day Massacre)
C) July 4th: 11-7 D’Backs (Rockies blow 4-0 lead with Cookie on the mound)
D) July 27th: 7-3 Mets (Tatis Grand Slam and first of three straight loses to the lowly Mets)
E) August 30: 9-5 Giants (San Fran completes sweep on Rentaria Grand Slam)
F) October 3: 5-0 Dodgers (JDLR gets injured/Dodgers clinch division)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:33 AM MST reply actions

boy howdy

either D or E I think

Can I go back to 2008 and go for the “blowing a 10 run lead to the Cubs” game

also you’re forgetting the Pittsburgh game that prompted like 9 articles being posted in one day

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions

Oh yes the 10 run 7th inning

I actually missed that game (Thank God) so I was able to block it from my memory.

Were these articles fanposts or frontpage stuff?

The Cubs game was painful enough to count for two seasons wasn’t it.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions

both, it was absolutely absurd

you should’ve seen the rage, it was palpable

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions

I basically recommended trading everyone, especially Brad Hawpe (first on the bandwagon). I was upset at the time.

Link to my rant.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 PM MST up reply actions

I see why you linked to that

Almost all of your points still seem valid. I especially like #13

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions

Those were the dark days

We should have traded Hawpe tho

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions

I don't think Seth Smith is the answer..

as the #4 starter. Although he probably has higher value than Greg Smith right now.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions

You're so funny...

but seriously, that rotation (plus Cook and minus Smith) looks a lot better now than it did then.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 23, 2009 4:00 PM MST up reply actions

You had reason to be

Oh and great call on #11 considering that he started the year 0-6

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions

and he is the type of pitcher the Rockies should invest in for at least the next three years

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 5:58 PM MST up reply actions

This rant sounds like you were conviced that the Rockies were done for 2009

(And by done I mean no chance of making the playoffs) I reached that point after the Dodger 16-6 on Memorial Day.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 2:59 PM MST up reply actions

Oh yes I was. I was infuriated at that moment.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 23, 2009 3:59 PM MST up reply actions

Nice

you should be proud of this one, generally you had the right ideas across the board.

by Teekalong on Nov 23, 2009 4:31 PM MST up reply actions

Damn Mets.

At least I skipped out during work to attend the one game the Rockies won that series.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 10:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions

E is my vote

This place was a panicked mess after that game.

by Muzia on Nov 23, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

I choose G) the game in April or May when the Rockies gave up ten runs in an inning to the Pirates.

That was rock bottom for me.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 23, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions

It didn't get even lower after the Dodger game?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 3:00 PM MST up reply actions

No, because the Dodgers were a good team.

The Pirates suck…and we just looked so terrible against them it was ridiculous.

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by Jeff Aberle on Nov 23, 2009 4:01 PM MST up reply actions

ah yes so it was this year

yeah that was awful lol

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 23, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions

E i would have to say

maybe D but probably E because Giants just swept us and everything was in turmoil…how about the 10 run inning we allowed against the Pirates or was that last yr?

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 23, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions

Wow a lot of people are bringing up the Pirate game

I was away that weekend so I only can judge it through box scores. I don’t miss many games in a season but seeing the reaction here makes me think I picked a good game to miss. I didn’t realize it was that bad.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 4:33 PM MST up reply actions

haha yeah it was awful

i mean it is BAD whenever you give up 10 runs in an inning but to a triple A team like the effing pirates in a game we were up 4-1 in the 7th inning! sigh lol

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 23, 2009 4:36 PM MST up reply actions

It was the terrible defense that hurt the most

and Matt Daley’s ankle

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 23, 2009 4:45 PM MST up reply actions

yea

the way his ankle got hurt too because somehow the bat had to be there when he was backing up home plate

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 23, 2009 4:57 PM MST up reply actions

I seem to remember somebody kicking said bat

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 6:04 PM MST up reply actions

just another reason

to hate umpires

JFK

by jrockies on Nov 25, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions

Ah yes, today is yet another marked day

days when RMN listens to “San Jacinto” by Peter Gabriel

Today is one of them.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 11:11 AM MST reply actions

, remember about four years ago when it was sort of a good thing to compare Troy Tulowitzki to Crosby?

Maybe it’s just me, but I was actually bummed to hear that Tulo was comped to Crosby on draft day. I was hoping Tulo would be better than that.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Nov 23, 2009 11:28 AM MST reply actions

Thankfully he is

and by a lot

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions

Joe Mauer

Near unanimous AL MVP.

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 12:46 PM MST reply actions

yes he is, and thank God for reason winning

stupid seattle writer picking MIGUEL CABRERA

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions

Do you think he is the same guy who put Teixeria 8th

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Nov 23, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions

My thoughts here are similar to the NL Manager of the Year

The correct guy won – by a lot – but seriously, Miguel Cabrera? What? It doesn’t…what the…how…I don’t…he plays first base for crying out loud! His stats were worse than Joe Mauer, a catcher, and he plays first base.

by controlled_slide on Nov 23, 2009 1:04 PM MST up reply actions

I swear to God if Pujols isn't unanimous

I’ll crap a brick. And then still celebrate Pujols for being the best.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions

If you're still alive after that,

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by Russ Oates on Nov 23, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions

Russ, I've been meaning to ask

How do you surrender a dream? Dreams are fundamentally uniquely personal; surrender requires explicitly giving up to a third party. I guess it could work in the context of a relationship, maybe? Not sure it works for a baseball club!

by biondino on Nov 23, 2009 3:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

You kill a Unicorn..

that’s how you surrender dreams.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 PM MST up reply actions

For some reason

I’m not as zealous about Pujols for MVP, perhaps because he always wins, perhaps because he doesn’t need me on his side, perhaps because he was always the most likely candidate for being a unanimous pick. Anyway, I think if I had a ballot, I might vote for Utley. He was actually pretty close to Pujols in WAR, and he plays an important position very well. I actually just looked up the WAR stats on Fangraphs, and realized that Pujols was worth 72 runs above replacement with his bat alone. That is a lot. Maybe I do support Pujols to be unanimous.

by controlled_slide on Nov 23, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions

People don't realize how good Pujols is because he's just THAT DAMN GOOD.

like consistently.

It takes a lot of the fun out of it, but he’s JUST THAT DAMN GOOD, yanowatimsayin?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions

I know

I love looking at his Baseball Reference page. It’s like the same year over and over again. And it’s a really good year.

by controlled_slide on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions

so when he suddenly drops below that career line

but is still better than everyone else, he suddenly loses a lot of glory and praise because he is “falling apart” even though he’s still better than everybody else.

http://sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Albert_Pujols

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Nov 23, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions

Pujols also paid for the entire Mike Coolbaugh dinner..

after the local sponser dropped out. He asked his agent not to make a big deal about it, but fortunately someone let it leak. Pujols is like Santa, Superman and the Terminator rolled in one.

He should become governor of California.

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by Charlie77 on Nov 23, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions