Wednesday Rockpile: Future, former and false (and falsely accused?) Rockies unite!
by Rox Girl on Dec 16, 2009 8:55 AM MST
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PrintTracy Ringolsby's new article for FoxSports.com highlights the shifting market for Matt Holliday and implies the slugger may be receiving his comeuppance for rejecting the Rockies four year, $82 million offer before they traded him to the Athletics. Ringolsby astutely notes how all of Holliday's reasons for that rejection seem absurd in hindsight.
The article also talks a little about Garrett Atkins' effect on the free agent third base market and how with new ownership, the Cubs may decide to leave the Cactus League for Naples, FL. The Cubs are typically the Cactus League's biggest draw, so it would be a big hit economically to Arizona, but I don't know, Spring Training without Cubs fans could make it that much better for everybody else.
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Atkins' most clearly revealed suitor would be Baltimore, although it appears the Orioles are still downplaying interest in the third baseman, which makes sense from a leveraging standpoint given that there's not really a clear competitor for a contract with him.
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Another former Rockie looking for work appears as though he may be heading for Washington. Fellow SBN site Federal Baseball takes a look at what signing Jason Marquis would mean for the Nationals. Just be advised before commenting that there may be some residual bad blog blood between users of our sites after our snarkiness during the season series got on their nerves, so please be on your best behavior.
One thing that I think that Ed Chigliak's post makes clear is that I think Nationals fans and Rockies fans share a common appreciation for Marquis, probably based on our realistic expectations for him, that seems to be absent with many fans elsewhere around the majors.
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Huston Street, then a member of the Athletics, was one of several MLB players treated by Anthony Galea, a doctor under investigation by the feds for the possible illegal distribution of performance enhancers to athletes. Street visited Galea to rehab a right elbow ulnar nerve that had been causing him issues. The NY Times article seems to suggest a guilt by association course of action. As fans then, I think we don our righteous outrage and demand justice. Let us string Street up on the hanging tree at dusk.
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This article seems to confuse the professional careers of Chih-Chia Chang, who never played in the United States although he was sought after by a few MLB teams before signing with Seibu, with Chin-Hui Tsao, who did play with the Rockies and Dodgers. At any rate, both Chang and Tsao are still embroiled in the Taiwanese professional baseball league game fixing scandal the article talks about.
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Finally, Patrick Saunders at the Denver Post writes about how the Rockies are looking less likely to sign Yorvit Torrealba as the off season progresses after being so close last Friday that a deal seemed imminent. It seems that Torrealba will either need to concede the final $400,000 between the two sides or look elsewhere for employment. The article goes on to also talk a little more of the Rockies interest in Matt Capps. While we can generally rule out the Rockies winning a pitcher that has as much interest as Capps supposedly does, his relationship with Tracy, the team's contending status, the reputation of Bob Apodaca and at least the strong possibility of closing after 2010 (which also implies a willingness to give Capps a multi-year deal) should work into the Rockies favor, but given the heavy interest, I wouldn't put us as front-runners by any means.
The way Pirates GM Neil Huntington misjudged the market on Capps seems to be the chink that finally ends his honeymoon phase with the media and fans in Pittsburgh, as Dejan Kovacevic takes him to task. I'm speculating that the Pirates GM probably had better deals for the reliever on the table last July than he did in November, and was trying to build interest back to that level but apparently didn't realize how the trade value of small and mid market players due healthy raises can drop substantially in the period immediately leading up to the non-tender deadline. It's a lesson Huntington probably won't forget, and I think it's further evidence that there's probably a learning curve for most new GM's.
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RG, I hope that your comments about Street are tongue in cheek
I hate the guilt by association thing. If they investigate and find some merit…well then so be it. I really hope he’s clean…
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
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absolutely they were tongue in cheek...
I don’t know how much over the top I could get than suggesting capital punishment for visiting a doctor. Maybe I should have implied that we also string up Street’s horse.
although I should add that I was trying to comment on the tone of the article itself,
which really did seem to want people to speculate on the players mentioned, particularly Jose Reyes.
I was reading an column in the LA Times this morning by Bill Plaschke
writing about Tiger Woods being seen by this physician, the size of Tiger Woods neck and that maybe now he should be compared with Barry Bonds….
It was bizarre
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke16-2009dec16,0,2923714.column
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Plaschke=Woody Paige
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Dec 16, 2009 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Sometimes I like what Plaschke writes
but this one mystified me. Maybe I give Plaschke a pass at times because he hates Manny Ramirez.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Well
We all hate Manny so I guess he gets a pass this time.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Dec 16, 2009 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
One guilty husband, fleeing after a phone call into the night
One scorned wife, wielding a golf club with malicious intent
One tree, the new home of the front end of a high-class SUV
Tiger Woods’ affairs have caught up with him.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
I always thought that when you got married
a person would be dating less people.
by Redhawk on Dec 16, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I felt it was plaschkeesque
This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
Mickey Mantle.....Baseball Player
numbers dropped off significantly as he got older
Was Mantle on Roids???
And this type of “journalism” seems rampant around the US. It makes suggestions for readers to make connections, which are not there. But then the writer can say, that they never really said that, and deny it.
haven't people cited allegations of using weird stimulants even before greenies?
therefore ROGER MARIS FAKE
This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
It's like reading YouTube comments.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions
well, yeah
but I was really pointing out the use of taking two things, and putting them together, but not really…just close enough to allow the audience to make the connection.
Like Mickey Mantle was a baseball player…and his performance dropped. Roids. Now in this example I never said Mantle used roids. but the audience is lead to that. I use this as we know the Mick’s drop off was due to not working out and boozing.
In the past here at the Row, I've misread serious things as tongue in cheek
and vice versa…I just wanted to clarify :)
Sorry if I offended…wasn’t my intention:(
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
no offense,
and I can understand you asking as I’ve missed sarcasm myself at times. It’s easy to do on the ’Net.
You can borrow my espresso/sarcasm detector if you like..
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that's funny...Can you ship it for free?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
For free?
In this economy?
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don't ask, don't get :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
SIMPSONS DID IT
This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
You rang?
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
"The sarcasm readings are off the charts"...
Comic Book Guy/
Ooh, a sarcasm detector, like that’s a useful invention.
/Comic Book Guy
explosion
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 16, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
That's what I'm sayin'!
BTW Kelsey, welcome to Purple Row!
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yes
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
SDcat you better hope...
that Brad Hawpe is never linked to anything, otherwise your soooo guilty
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM MST up reply actions
lol, I'll go down with the ship!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I'm still waiting for the SD weather to show up
so I can have it take a physical
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
there are still details in the contract being worked out
so its not completely final yet…RIRF jumped the gun on reporting it as completed deal.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
What more could you possibly want in that deal?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
well, the main problem is Hawpe is off hunting and can't be reached
to approve the deal..but Mother Nature is worried about ushering in the 2012 apocalpyse by warming the latitudes higher than SD. She’s trying to work out those details and will get back to me.
Hopefully, I’ll know more after the New Year :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
If it's not done by mid January the deal is off
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
I'll throw in a sign and trade deal with Yorvy
but you have to take the entire salary and it’s going to take 3 years 24 million to get him to sign… Seriously though I thought it was showing up I left for work this morning and it was a nice brisk 9 degrees. It’s supposed to be high around 40 all week :).
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
nice...you're getting the pre-signing bonus :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Though if it drops below 0 at night during this time,
It fails the physical and the trade is off. No Brad Hawpe for you
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
that is really a completely irrational demand
we have to be allowed some leeway for the temperatures at night…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Why?
I didn’t realize it ever got that cold in SD, even at night
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
during the winter
in the mountains of San Diego County it has been know to get that cold, rare, but it does happen.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
True...
But I wasn’t trading mountain for mountains… I want to keep the mountains around here for skiing reasons. just the weather in the valleys.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Well, now that was never stipulated
The assumption was all of San Diego County weather varieties….not just the good beachy(which gets below freezing sometimes) weather. I guess you have to decide how badly you want to get rid of Hawpe :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I thought it was more
How bad you wanted Hawpe
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
I did not initiate these trade talks. I answered the phone
and listened to an offer from RIRF…I think he’ll need to way in on this point :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
*err ...weigh in...sheesh
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
u sum kinda sillee
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions
Last week there was a day when I saw
snow, sleet, freezing rain, rain, fog, wind, thunder, and hail. I decided I was tired of it and offered SDcat Hawpe for her weather. The discussions took off from there
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 6:37 PM MST up reply actions
ha....you just want a cut of the good weather :P
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I would vote for overpaying Jason Marquis
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
/hssssss
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Awesome Holliday article by Ringoslby
And add to the fact Holiday wasn’t even aware of the dollar amount the Rockies offered makes him look even more foolish. (He admitted that in an article by Dave Krieger earlier this year).
In Holliday's defense..
he was looking for long term security. An 8 year deal from the Cardinals would give Matt $128 million going into 2017, meanwhile the Rockies deal would have given him $72 million going into 2013.
If I was Matt and believed anything in what I’ve been saying for the past 3 years I would jump all over the Cardinal’s offer. Long term stability in a good baseball town.
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not buying it...
In the Rockies negotiations, Holliday let Boras do all the talking even though it went against Holliday’s heart. (Holliday also indicated he felt a bit bad for not knowing exactly what the Rockies offered implying had he known things might have turned out differently).
Matt won’t have any say in the St. Louis deal. Boras does all the talking… Too bad.
Holliday has gained $50 million since rejecting the Rockies..
and he could even make more. Yeah he’s greedy, but so was Rockefeller and he donated millions to charity after destroying mom and pop oil companies around the nation.
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This isn't quite true...
Holliday may once have gained $50 million since rejecting the Rockies had he taken St. Louis’ offer, but we don’t know that it will remain for the same amount of seasons now. What’s more, your number is dependent on Holliday having some sort of massive catastrophe that ends his baseball career in the next four seasons which while possible, is unlikely. The real difference after the subsequent years’ payouts should wind up being considerably less than $50 million or quite possible if not likely favoring signing that Rockies deal (if Holliday had four All Star seasons with the Rockies those years, his next contract would be very large). You’re speculating an extreme at one end, which overweights the security of the St. Louis offer, while I think Holliday himself and Boras are taking a different approach and perhaps overweighting the potential payout of more risky but higher paying shorter term deals.
Do you really think Matt would receive a $18 million extension..
after the age of 34? Would Todd Helton receive a contract of that much right now?
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Maybe not $18 million, but given the way players salaries are still rising
in a down economy, and that the economic picture is expected to be quite a bit brighter in 2013, I don’t see why expecting a two year $35 million deal would be out of the question if he continues to perform at or near his established level. And from there he would only need $15 million more over the next two seasons to make up the remaining difference. I definitely don’t believe we can say for sure that the Cardinals offer beats the Rockies, but I don’t think it’s anywhere close to a $50 million gap and Holliday’s other reasons for rejecting the Rockies, none of which were purportedly about the money are certainly dubious.
Second point on this...
Front loading the total payout, as would be the case if he signed a 4 year, $72 million contract with the Rockies and then let’s say signing a 4 year, $50 million contract after that to arrive at the same total dollar value would still be worth quite a bit more than a eight year, $122 million contract, just because of inflation and much greater returns on the interest. This is even before knowing whether the St. Louis offer was backloaded, which if it follows the pattern of most long term contracts, probably would be.
So what you're saying is:
Rockies Contract: $72 million + MAYBE another $50 million
Cardinals Contract: $122 million
I would still pick the Cardinals contract.
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Hmm... I seemed to have been under the impression that I was saying something else...
Rockies contract: $72 million guaranteed 2010-2013;
+ LIKELY at least another $50 million in the next four seasons, plus the added interest/investment income on that extra $20 million.
Cardinals contract: ? guaranteed 2010-2013: I’d guess around $52 million
+ $70 million guaranteed over the next four seasons.
Again, you are still overweighting the risk of a total non-payout after 2013. It’s there, and the Cardinals offer is certainly tempting enough that anybody would consider it, but I still think the likeliest future course would see Holliday get quite a bit more than the Cardinals offer had he taken the Rockies deal.
Where are you getting these terms from?
I’ve seen 8 years $16 million and 5 years 18 million, but nothing showing options or conditions.
I wish Matt had stayed in Colorado, because he would be a legend; the next Elway. But he’s made his bed and now he has to sleep in it.
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It's just an educated guess, I don't know of any contract over 5 years
that pays the same salary in the beginning that it does in the end. They are almost always back heavy like Helton’s or Jeter’s deals, and the Cardinals as a mid-market team would almost certainly pay more on the back end (for reference see Pujols’ current contract, even though that deal also covered his arb years). Another example would be Chris Carpenter’s deal that paid him $33 million over the first three seasons, $44.5 million over the last three.
So are you saying the Rockies contract was front-loaded...
like the one the Nuggets signed for KMart a few years ago to drive off potential suitors?
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I'm saying that the effect,
of having four years, $18 million, even if that contract paid more in 2012 and 2013, would still be front loaded compared to the Cardinals offer, which more than likely is back loaded. So Holliday would receive $72 million from 2010-2013 with the Rockies, compared to a much smaller amount from the Cardinals over that time frame, even though the average annual value of the Cardinals contract would suggest the difference was only $8 million. I am guessing the actual number would be closer to $20 million and the bulk of Holliday’s offer from the Cardinals gets paid out in 2014-2017.
Holliday would have to weigh that caveat about still being able to play in 2014 and decide whether the risk of catastrophe outweighed the potential reward of signing for a shorter term and taking the bigger gains up front.
You suggest that it’s not worth that risk, which is fine, but in my mind, if I’m already guaranteed of making $72 million, I wouldn’t mind putting that additionally guaranteed $50 million on the line for the chance at a larger return since:
1. $72 million, even after taxes or what have you should be enough to allow myself and my family to live comfortably for the remainder of our natural lives.
2. I currently have a skill that few other people on this planet possess and it will be in demand five years from now.
3. That skill, even at a diminished level, merits large sums of money.
4. Because the difference of the earnings I could make off of interest and investments with that $72 million (invested conservatively, say at a 5% return) compared to the considerably lower amount I would receive over those same four years from the Cardinals, and the inflation adjustment of receiving a back loaded contract means that the actual amount I would have to make up by the end of the eight year period should be closer to $40 million than $50 million.
5. Because Democrats in power means I’m likely to be taxed at a higher rate four years from now, and therefore I’d like to make the bulk of the money sooner (I don’t mean to be political here since I tend to vote Democratic, but it has to be a consideration if we’re looking at the financial decision making process for somebody in Holliday’s shoes).
Because of all of this, I would say it’s about a 80% likelihood that Holliday would have made more taking the Rockies offer. The other 20% covers complete catastrophe, but also your more realistic scenarios of the market drying up for a 34 year old slugger.
Even then, a situation like Bobby Abreu’s would be a good comparison and makes me dubious that Holliday gets paid less. Abreu is still set to average $8 million/year in his age 34-36 seasons ($5 million in 2009, $19 million in 2010 and 2011).
Let’s pretend in 2003, instead of signing the five year $64 million deal he did with the Phillies, he could have signed a nine year, $97.2 million deal with some other team ($2 million less in annual value, but four years longer, just like the offer you’re suggesting Holliday take over the Rockies deal). Abreu, in a weak economy and with the worst timing possible by becoming a free agent in a season where the OF market totally collapsed, would still only need one year at $9.2 million in 2012 to make up the remaining face value difference, and in inflation adjusted value, he’d only need to sign for $7 million.
Abreu will probably come up just short of coming out ahead, but it took the country’s biggest recession in at least thirty years and probably since the Great Depression to create the circumstances that made that possible. Holliday likely won’t be having to face an economy quite as dour.
And yeah, I just took way too long to answer this, sorry.
Good points, especially considering the tax from the upcoming Democrat years...
however the past 3 years have become financial disasters for most portfolios. Kiplinger recently released it’s top 15 mutual funds and they average a 4.24% loss on their 3 year average. So a $72 million contract 3 years ago would only be worth $68 million now, if invested wisely. So money going forward would receive a better financial return.
The other consideration is that at the age of 34 would Matt be able to continue playing outfield in the NL? Barry Bonds did, so anything is possible. I think Holliday would have to move to the AL to receive a decent contract at that age negating his long-term status with the team.
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Also, I am so geeked out..
that you responded to my post with a 662 word response. That’s so cool! You rock Brandi.
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for what its worth
I like Holliday, and think if the Rox got him back they’d it’d be a great thing for the team (won’t happen of course), but wish some players would be more active in their own negotiations.
Well
Matt knew what he was doing by hiring Boras. If he truly wanted to play for certain teams, it was (and is) well within his power to do so. However, other than Manny last year, I’m unaware of any big-dog Boras guys who don’t get their money. I’m assuming Matt will get his payday, which is what he wants.
Security?
" In Holliday’s defense he was looking for long term security. An 8 year deal from the Cardinals would give Matt $128 million going into 2017, meanwhile the Rockies deal would have given him $72 million going into 2013."
What kind of lifestyle would one have to lead for $72 million not to provide long term security?
A lot of this stuff about squeezing an extra few million here or there is about ego and about agents getting inside their clients’ heads. really, is there that much of a lifestyle difference between making, say, $8 million a year and $10 million a year?
Holliday could have stayed here, played for a conending team, been very, very rich and become a local hero on par with Elway or Joe Sacik. Instead, he’ll end up bouncing around and seeing no appreciable difference in his lifestyle. Just a larger bottom line in his bank account.
Nice choice, M.
by BroJB on Dec 16, 2009 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's different
The Packers were willing to pay him to retire. They wanted Aaron Rogers
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
speaking more of the legacy
how about Roger Clemens and Boston? IS that more suitable?
ROCKEFELLER!!!
I think that hits the nail on the head
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
Holliday could have been a hero in a sleepy backwater like Denver, with little national attention
Or a hero in a thriving metropolis like New York, where the whole country pays attention.
.....we're a pretty thriving metropolis too...
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 8:18 AM MST up reply actions
and every sports team known to man
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 18, 2009 12:07 AM MST up reply actions
and nearly every sports championship known to man.
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we are so close
it’s gonna happen
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 20, 2009 12:53 AM MST up reply actions
oh noooo you din'nt...
o_O
museums,institutions of higher learning,damn fine sports teams, tall buildings, millions of people..
good jobs, pollution, traffic
i think that qualifies as a thriving metropolis
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Yeah but
I guarantee that there are members of the eastern media that see anything between St Louis and LA as a dusty western saloon town where you can expect to see John Wayne and Clint Eastwood dueling at any time.
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Dec 17, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
You know what's fun
Asking someone from the east coast what states border Colorado
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 17, 2009 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, I adore Denver
I’m just repeating the regular complaints about how it gets ignored that I read here!
I'm not targeting you
I’m talking about the average person who lives in my area
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM MST up reply actions
I don't think I can name the states that border RI..
Is Atlantica a state?
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Aw c'mon there's only two (three if you count water borders)
And it should be; it sounds cool
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 18, 2009 12:39 AM MST up reply actions
But he might not end up in New York
He’ll probaby be in St Louis.
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 17, 2009 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
The Cardinals deal would lock the Hollidays into St. Louis for 8 years..
they had to move twice over the past year, but he’s not really bouncing around.
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well I'm sure the family just stayed [wherever]
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
That's *if* he signs w/the Cardinals
And BTW, for all those “mid-market” teams singing the financial blues, note how the St. Louis Cards, hailing from what is hardly a megalopolis, feel able to pay Holliday, Pujols (in what will be the biggest deal in baseball history when it comes), and Carpenter.
They’re an example of how to build a regional franchise that succeeds.
They're an example of a regional franchise that's already built
And one that it took fifty years to really do so before they became financially stable in the early 1960’s.
True...
But there are some things that the Rox can be doing to build toward that direction. for example, locating a minor league team in Utah and another in New Mexico, going back to the now-defunct winter caravans, playing the last week of spring exhibition games in a variety of regional locales and so on.
Also, they can do a better job of marketing stars. Every kid in the Rocky mountain region should be wanting a Tulo or Ubaldo t-shirt under the tree.
by BroJB on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with a lot of these points...
And it’s why I think it’s good that the team is playing in Albuquerque at the end of next Spring. Marketing the team does seem to be an issue for the non baseball side of the franchise. They have the funny TV commercials, but they’re lacking a lot of the targeted work on the ground they could be doing.
They should restart the Rocky Mountain tour..
even if they don’t use the superstars. Guys like Seth Smith, Taylor Bucholz and Spilly would be awesome to take around the region to build up support. Also they need to invest in some out of town deals. You know how hard it is for WS fans to visit Denver, what if they setup a package with Amtrak or Frontier Airlines? Bring in some fans from SLC or Casper. These kinds of promotions would reinvigorate the Rocky Mountain region is Colorado baseball.
The Cardinals had a huge following due to their regional radio coverage when there was no one but the Dodgers out west. The Rockies are really missing out in the Mountain Time Zone. It’s not like the Snakes are going to put up a fight right now.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
fact
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
Another idea..
to save the Rockies marketing budget, we could use the PR Map to house Rockies players for the night in PR member’s houses. Whatchathink? eh! Who wants Spilly staying at their house for the night?
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I do, I do...:)
how much fun would that be!
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I know right?
We could needlepoint little heart pillows that say “I Spilly you”.
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this :)
we’d probably have to make a gift basket with various shaving implements
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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Wow, that sounds in-depth..
While he’s at your house, what is he supposed to shave?
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the way that guy grows his beardage hourly
please
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Daha!
That map is incorrect now! I don’t live in Katy anymore!
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
I was wondering this
Just how up-to-date is that map?
by controlled_slide on Dec 16, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions
Ugh..
I shouldn’t have brought up the map.
If I give away my email password would everyone update their place on the map without signing me up for vicious email scams?
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don't do it
not worth it
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
I was just curious
Definitely don’t do anything silly to make the map up-to-date
by controlled_slide on Dec 16, 2009 3:24 PM MST up reply actions
I was just kidding..
If anyone has moved they can list it here and I will update the map.
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Since I wasn't a member yet
when the first map was created I’ll give you my location now. I live in West Greenwich RI wich is the town highlighted below
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
There's a lot of trees where you live.
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It would be nothing but trees if people didn't cut them down
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
oh that's not disturbing at all
I mean, cool, sure…but there are some crazies out there
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM MST up reply actions
The Rockies could stay at my Dad's house in Delta..
PedalPusher’s house in Utah, Chacinisfuture’s house in Wyoming and Phil’s house in Tucson.
Those are all normal people.
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My apt in San Diego is pretty damn boring....err normal
plus I think they would appreciate the amenities and on site laundry :)P
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
DBS??!!
you have a generous definition of “normal”
Waiting out the Rockies' offseason by watching the Broncos succeeding at not failing to fail once the giddy rush of success has failed.
Oh, I meant abnormal...
that’s the word I was looking for.
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Phil's normal?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 5:34 PM MST up reply actions
I just cannot believe
that the Rox and Torrealba can’t figure out a way to gap $400,000. And how it could devolve so quickly?
Almost seems like there is more to the story….
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I think it's mostly negotiation tactics
and the FO setting their ceiling. Once Torrealba resolves his grievance with the Mets (was that today?) I bet we’ll have a clearer idea on where he’ll be heading.
perhaps the Rockies are slowly figuring out that we hold ALL of the cards
I
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
The Rockies were only willing to let Torrealba lead them into the market so far.
They’re making the right move choosing to hold steady right now, but knowing our FO’s committal to our former players, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Torrealba doesn’t get a better offer straight onto the table after our talks break down, they might give into his demands.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
don't say that
I don’t like the precedent this sets for any other impending FA on the team.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Since those teams signed their C
Where is Torrealba going to get overpaid?
I’d start lowering it to $5M then to $4.5M
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Dec 16, 2009 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I hope that happens
but isn’t the sense I get of which direction the negotiations are going. I can’t see the offer decreasing at this point. Maybe if the Mets clearly say no to a 2y/$6M deal he’d turn around and accept the Rockies’ offer. There’s obviously a lot going on that we don’t have a window in on.
I did not see that
that’s baffling
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
Holy hell
are you serious?
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions
He should
He has a rep to protect, yo
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
I'm a big Molina fan
and would actually love for the Rockies to sign him (cause the more talent a team has the better). But that number is just nuts. Bengie is getting older fast.
Awesome!!
The wood paneling in the shadows makes it look like you’re in your mom’s basement. The collared shirt is a little too professional, but the phone jack on the wall behind you makes up for the shirt.
It needs more cut/transitions!
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backhanded compliment if I ever heard one
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
It takes a lot of balls to put yourself out there like that..
I give you props for it, and these comments were pure gold:
“You gotta take a risk at some point. You can’t just say oh no, these guys are just gonna get hurt. and they’re not gonna earn their contract nyuh nyuh. Get over it! I would like to see a risky signing at some point, and if it fails sure go back into your hole because you saw your shadow. If it works your genius, if it fails hey we tried.”
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"reccin dis"
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
Haha.
“But who listens to me? Probably not the front office. Not the point. Moving on.”
Made me spit out my water. :D
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But they do read him.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I have
the same faux wood paneling in my basement.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 16, 2009 9:52 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Me tooooo
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
gotta love houses whose last renovation was in like 1978
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions
defffffffffffffff
Represent!
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:57 AM MST up reply actions
this reminds me of a series of terrible videos I shot in my basement last year
only less anti-government…
Uhhhhhh.....
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
I just filmed it
it was my friend portraying an embittered vietnam vet from our movie. Doesn’t make a whole lotta sense
/raises eyebrow
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
What the HELL
were you people on? That sounds awesome.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
We made a feature length movie called Mummies...
where a janitor who has prepared for his entire life for the zombie apocalypse finds himself under attack by a group of mummies and has to fight them off. This was a spinoff where the janitor rants about oil prices, the government nosing around in free speech, etc….
Still sounds awesome.
Really awesome.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
If you have an hour and absolutely NOTHING to do
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1396984/
The full film is there. And it’s terrible. But I love it.
by Muzia on Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
it's on imdb wat
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
you play LENIN?!
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
o.0
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
You look like a messed up ventriloquism dummy there,
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
New Moon's trailer is the "most related video" to this film on IMDB.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
by Muzia on Dec 16, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
reccin dis
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
reccin dis as well
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Oh, wow.
That’s awful.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
6 FU**#$@%^ months of my life
and the best the internet can say about it is “it’s like New Moon???”
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
this took you 6 months?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
That's how long Eclipse took to film.
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filmed in 2 weeks worth of evenings
then a break. Then editing, and audio dubbing. 6 months from shoot to premiere
Dude, when I move back to Denver...
… we must collaborate on projects. Provided none of them are the sequel to this.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
you're just collaborating with everyone aren't you
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
My first film was a lego animation adaptation of The Odyssey.
It was truly brilliant in its ineptitude. We dubbed the entire audio track in one take. All 20 minutes.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
We didn;'t have a script.
We just shot the entire thing, edited it, and then gave the four of us various roles to play, and we just played it and all shouted into one microphone.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 10:42 AM MST up reply actions
I guess with legos
you don’t have to sync lips. Stop motion? or did you hold the legos in your hand?
man, stop motion has got to be the most tedious
method of filming which results in the most amazingly wonderful work. I surely hope the Nick Parks of the world are filthy rich.
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second
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
That was the first and only time I have ever directed a stop motion film.
Though I’ve worked on several others. I have dabbled in other forms of animation. I did a rudimentary manual rotoscope film once.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
rotoscope is that what they did
the orignal “Clash of the Titans”,
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
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I've not seen it, so I'm not certain.
Though there are several modern examples of the technique, though they no longer use the actual device, and instead a digital grading process that mimics the rotoscoping effect.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
It was really shoddy.
Frames were all jump cuts, and some of them lasted for several seconds.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
Sounds cool..
my first animation was Muggsy Bogues dunking a basketball. It took 2 months to complete.
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DUDE SPOILER ALERT COME ON
I’m trying to watch this!
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
reccin dis
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
International Mummy Symposium
Hahahahahahahahaa oh my GOD THIS IS AWESOME
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
where is mike nelson when you need him
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
well you thought of everything didn't you
you should include a package of microwave popcorn
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
I'm 20 minutes in.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Duh.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions
Hahaha oh my god
the audio sync just totally went out of wack.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions
well this saved me some time
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
Dude
Thundercats reference?
Instawin.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
Sup, Lenin.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
wat..the will think you are most cool
well at least the cool ones’ will
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
punch?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
Your sig needs to be
“ROCKEFELLER!” for at least a week.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
whatever, you are BASKING in this attention
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
Mine has random ups and downs too.
I always want to know who is visiting my page, and why.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Hahahaha
That is AWESOME. You sir, win at least 9000 internets for the winrars you have bestowed upon us here today.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
Dude
Lenin has been hilarious so far. His fight scene made me lol pretty hard.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
and less RMN
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
dawwww :3
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
reccin dis
To all of the doubters, to all of the haters, one simple message:
We will be back! Our purple knights will be victorious once again.
by The Lodo Magic Man on Dec 16, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
you laugh
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
thanks!
I’ll try to be more difficult in the future ;-)
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
Our school wireless...
keeps having issues. So I had to start it, watch it, computer fails, reboot over and over until I finagled the computer to let me watch the entire video.
But definitely subscribing now.
I got nothing.
That was the least ranty rant I've ever heard...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I want more
Anything that makes Ned Colletti look like a genius has got to make someone else look like a supergenius
.
Awesome
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
Well done good sir!
Caution: Colorado teams are better than they appear.
by ShadowPenguin on Dec 16, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions
I want as many people Matt on my team.
Word.
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
Crap let me try that again
I want as many people named Matt on my team as possible.
Word.
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
nah he's just in slow motion
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:52 AM MST up reply actions
I take it back. He looks like he's yawning
If I pitched for the Pirates, I would be as well.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
Listening to Patrick Saunders on 1510 re: Yorvit
He’s insinuating that Yorvit felt stung by CDI’s contract and doesn’t get why is he being squeezed for 400,000. That is just Saunders assessment. And that both DOD and Yorvit’s agent don’t feel things will get done.
I imagine they’ll post the interview as a podcast later..
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Well, like I said that was Saunders comments...
once the podcast gets up there, listen for yourself…I just thought I’d share
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
FD SKLFHB;SL4JT'ih'athao4ht
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
that's like fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff to the next level
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:02 AM MST up reply actions
If true, hard to blame Yorvit, in theory
because not often does a guy’s backup get a bigger contract when they are both negotiating at the same time. We all assume CDI will be the likely starter if they both return, but Yorvit justifiably (based on last year) would disagree with that conclusion and feel slighted.
…which leads me to really, really wonder what they are telling him about the “competition.” I have a feeling there is a lot going on behind the scenes on this, and I would not be surprised if there is a split among DOD/Tracy about who should start. I wish some insiders would report on this, if this was happening in Boston we’d have 3 updates a day. Oh well.
this
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Here's what I don't understand..
If the Rox knew they were signing CDI to that deal, then why announce it before you sign Yorvit? Especially, if $400,000 to $500,000 is the sticking point? Yorvit might very well have said okay I’ll meet you halfway on lets say $500,000. Then you get him on board and then announce CDI signing.
Weird…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
possibly to avoid a messy situation later down the line
because the organization still views Iannetta as the guy moving forward
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
ie clearly defined roles
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
That's my main point
I’m not sure the roles are clearly defined, and this money thing clouds it further.
Obviously they legitimately want Yorvit back, so you would think they would have taken care of that first because I’m unaware of any urgency re CDI’s deal. But they did what they did, and its probably not wise to assume they did it by accident.
I don’t know, I remain of the view that there is a split that remains unresolved. I suspect DOD wants CDI to get the job, and Tracy, at minimum, wants a true competition (and very likely wants Yorvit to start). Seems like something they should have worked out before negotiating deals with these guys. Oddly handled. Or maybe its all much ado about nothing.
clears
it all up.
thanks for perspective. can go to sleep now knowing why i dont know…what the heck with torrealba after after after.
sounds correct
by holidayelsie on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions
look at it the other way
if they signed Yorvit to a 2yr/$6M contract and THEN negotiated with CDI for a 3yr/$8.7M deal, chances are it would raise CDI’s asking price a bit more
And it might have cheesed Yorvit
RMN is right. This would not be messy if these guys are being told what the roles will be.
Am I the only one
Who is puzzled by the fact that Marquis thinks he is a mentor for young pitchers. Granted, I don’t know the guy or his clubhouse presence, but I just don’t see him as a mentor. And I have a hard time imagining him teaching anything valuable other than how to mentally and physically condition yourself to break down in the second half every year.
I cannot get behind this statement.
and its pretty harsh. From what I read and heard reported during the season, Marquis spent a great deal of time with the younger pitchers for the Rox and helped them. He must be doing something right to help get a team to the playoffs 10 years out of the 10 he’s pitched.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I have a rock that repels tigers
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
That's specious reasoning.
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
we don't want any more bears
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
wow, i'm totally lost ....
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Let the bears pay the bear tax.
I pay the Homer tax.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
The home owner tax.
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well anyway I'm still outraged
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:29 AM MST up reply actions
You guys are so awesome
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the whole time." - Jim Bouton
by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
But seriously
do you think Marquis will sign with the Nye Mets?
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by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
of all the teams he picked the Mets
“Great White Hunter” game in the background
yes
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
It's like a freakin' country bear jambaroo out there.
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by Franchise26 on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
Book 'em Lou
One count of being a bear
by controlled_slide on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions
and one count of accessory
to being a bear
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
I remember an article earlier this season with him taking on that role a bit with Jimenez and JDLR
And as I recall, Jimenez did give him some credit in that article as well, I’ve been trying to Google it with little success, but I believe Marquis is genuine. I think he found himself liking that role with the Rockies and might be seeing this as an opportunity to help him get into coaching after his playing career.
Here we go for the link, no mention of Jimenez, but the desire to be a mentor isn't sudden and it does sound like he helped
other Rockies starters some. It really does seem this is something that Marquis wants to do more of.
thanks for locating the link..
and glad to know I didn’t completely make this up in my head :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
speaking of Mentors and 5th starters and Francis insurance
What about Pedro Martinez for the Rockies? He should be rested from having most of last year off. He showed he could be a pitcher, and not just a thrower last fall, which is important with his diminishing stuff.
And the Rockies, really have only 4 starters plus Francis that are really MLB ready going into the season Yeah, they have a few close, but I’d really like more going in, and not the usual non-roster invitees types.
i'm interested
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
also....and this is a far less reson
but the Rockies really need to think about having a Hall of Famer. The Rangers gave Nolan Ryan a boat load of money when he was older, and part of that was for Ryan to go into the Hall as a Ranger. Now, I’m not saying for the Rockies to go THAT far, but it would be nice to have a Pedro in the hall, and have “Colorado” listed on the teams that he played for. Right now, I don’t think the Rockies have that, or a shot at that, with anyone BUT Helton.
is Dale Murphy a potential HOF guy?
i don’t actually know his career numbers and don’t want to go looking them up while at work but for some reason that name popped into my head
Murphy was above average..
Career .265 hitter with a .815 OPS. He hit 398 HRs with 350 doubles. Compare that with Larry Walker’s .313/.965 383 HRs and 471 doubles. Dale has similar numbers to Don Baylor and Joe Carter which would make him good but not HOF worthy IMO.
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thats what i thought
i didn’t have the time to go look up his numbers but for some reason his name was in my head
we agreed on beer back in the day
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
man it is/was
I wish I was drinking it riiiighhhhht nowwwwww
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
nancy
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
I don't like beer.
By the way, I’ll be back in MST in less than 12 hours.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
back in God's country.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
he has a summer home there
skis here
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
The day I ski is the day hell freezes over.
That’s coincidentally also the day I live in Utah.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
It sucks
I tried it once, and I felt like my body was collapsing upon itself thenext morning, couldn’t get out of bed.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
man, Utah isn't that bad
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
Hey, I'm from Jersey...
I liked it well enough.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 16, 2009 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
They did vote
for McClellan back in ’64.
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it's 5:00 somewhere.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions
It's 5:30 PM in Cape Verde
And basically nowhere else.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Except small areas of Greenland and Portugal.
Have any Portuguese beer on hand?
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
As Ben Franklin said
“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!”
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
They've looked
to be pretty non-committal about signing Pedro, and Pedro was lobbing to come back. I
it would behoove them to
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions
I think I hear Padres fans crying and storming Petco Park
seriously..I live like, 15 minutes from Petco :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
The only upside to something like this
is that he’d finally start getting the respect he deserves nationally. Would really suck for the fans though.
yep and I actually think most fans would agree through their tears
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
I could go on a rant about this
if I had time, and if it wouldn’t come off, sounding like Grandpa Simpson.
It’s sad, that all players must suck….UNLESS they happen to play for the Yankees, Red Sawk, or Phillies. Then they are the greatest ever.
I hate the eastern media.
5 bees for a quarter we used to say
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions
I had an onion in my belt, which was the fashion at the time.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 16, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe not within ten days but it's gonna happen
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
put them through the absolute freaking ringer, SD
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Where's Heath Bell going?
seriously though who’s going to be left? I’ll be completely embarrassed if we lose a single series to them this season
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions
I'm torn on this
I don’t want Boston to get Gonzalez for nothing but I also don’t want a division rival getting a bunch of pieces that could make them really good in the future.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
Please Boston whiners
explain how y’all are different from NYY again? Evil Empires.
they're far smugger because they're not at $200M or whatever
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Theo Epstein is a genius
whereas Cashman just writes checks.
Don’t you know ANYTHING?
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
for those who missed the sarcasm
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
And it there's any doubt left
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
WORST CALL IN THE HISTORY OF SILLEE BATBALL
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
"Sillee Batball"
I’ve contributed to the Purple Row vernacular.
Holla.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
sorry SDTF I was typing another post
and was coming back to give you props..
I think that is my alltime favorite comment.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Ahahaha
It’s cool. I’m glad someone found amusement in my mindless rage typing rants.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
*sillee batball TM SlamDunktheFunk
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
guessing it was one of the prospects?
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
he would be my guess, but Aumont's a strong possibility as well
He’s always been a pretty substantial injury risk due to mechanical issues in his delivery.
In which case I doubt anything happening other then
a switch in prospects possibly, don’t see a side pulling out they all seemed pretty happy with what they were getting.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
In which case...
What happens? Toronto pretty much has to do something with Halladay
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
Oohhhhhh
snap.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
We have ourselves a developing situation
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Carroll close to deciding betwen LA and OAK
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specifically, the Angels...
just in case people were wondering since the Dodgers were interested in him as well.
At least you have that sweet sig.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Dodgers
angels was a typo
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM MST up reply actions
cue A's Nation exploding
in the horrible Carroll vs Ellis debates of 2010
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Cue Paul Thomas
and his public banning Part 2. Those guys are crazy over there.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
well the difference would be an argument over who sucks more
(yes I know carroll had a pretty good 2009)
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
And a really good 2006...
Jamey Carroll is criminally underrated.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
his 2007 was pretty godawful
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions
It's been real, homies
But that PSTriple beckons. Catch you’uns on the flip.
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PSTriple?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
i had to google it
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
I may be buying one of those this month.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
I'll sell you mine.
40GB for $150. Runs great and has never had an issue, I’m just looking to upgrade to one with a bigger hard drive. Toss in a controller, too.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
wow that's intriguing
……
……..
I don’t play enough vidjya games to rationalize it
unless
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
yeah that's reason enough I won't lie
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
yeeeeah
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
I play video games hardly at all and it made me blink.
I think SDTF will have a deal in place before Torrealba does.
The key is unloading the thing.
The one I’m getting as a replacement is $300 so if I sell mine for $150 I figure someone is paying for half of my new one. I don’t mind paying $150 for a 120GB PS3. The thing is a media center.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
let's take this to email or something
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions
Dead serious.
Yeah, shoot me an email and we’ll talk.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Is it of the backwards compatible variety?
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
Nope.
FFFFFFFFFFFF.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions
In that case, I'll let Muzia take it.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah
it makes me sad, too. Not a huge PS2 player but the option would have been nice. Shadow of the Colossus…do love.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions
I'm a very selective gamer.
Almost all games I play are PC games (they tend to be more cinematic, my forte, though that’s changing quickly). I only buy a system once every generation, basically. My PS2 is on its last legs, and that is the main reason for me to consider it. Sony was foolish to stop making backwards compatible machines.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions
Extremely foolish.
You PC game? Ever do any multiplayer? I’m a pretty big PC gamer myself.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
I was one of the top ranked local players in Unreal Tournament 2004 for a while.
That’s the only multiplayer game I’ve ever been seriously good at, but I’ve dabbled in StarCraft, Counter-Strike and other Half-Life multiplayer games.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
SC is awesome.
I still play it every so often. I played UT3 for a few hours last night. Love UT games. CS isn’t my scene at all and Half-Life anything is pretty awesome.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
Origins DOMINATES.
I’ve been on a Bioware kick. Between playing that, rocking out Mass Effect in preparation for ME2 in late January and mocking Jade Empire, Bioware has been part of my gaming life in a big way lately.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
Gaming brings the world together =D
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
I'll second that
I got a PS3 just 2 weeks ago, cause of the price drop. I wanted to play DA: O cause of the great reviews, looked like my type of game. It rocks.
Final Fantasy coming out in the spring was another motivation. that and MLB: the Show
getting a good deal?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Chad Warden here
Talkin ’bout dat PSTriple.
I’d link the original video but people probably wouldn’t find the same humor in it I did and just get offended.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Oh if you had said PS3 I would have known
PSTriple was a new vernacular for that…
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
aha, yeah.
It’s from a YouTube rant by a guy named Chad Warden. Very roundly mocked in certain corners of the internet.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
It must be a long wednesday
barely afternoon and 350 comments already with very little discussion about baseball news.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 16, 2009 12:11 PM MST reply actions
Yeah, I kind of regret reading through it
That was time I could have spent studying for the final I have in two hours.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
by squalene203 on Dec 16, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
Posting from Economic$..
Realllyy boring in here. Watching some Christmas Carol movie I dunno, super intense :P
Anyways, I’m hoping Torre goes. I expect some big things outta CDI this year and into the future…let Phillips be the backup he showed he could handle the bat last season…
I want O-Dawggg!! That would improve our lineup immensely and I don’t see a lot of news on Hudson so if the Rockies could swoop down and sign him, that’d be an improvement to say the least. Let Barmes be the infield backup….
Trade Hawpe. Free up money for Hudson. Please DOD??
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 16, 2009 12:20 PM MST reply actions
I don't know about Capps..
I think our bullpen is good. Corpas (albeit hopefully) finds his 2007 form and if that happens we’ll have the best ’pen in the West. I think Capps is very unnecessary.
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by CentralCaliRox on Dec 16, 2009 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
I saw in the DP transactions
that the Nats signed Joel Peralta to a minor league deal. They like our seconds, huh?
Hot stove leads to panda porn
I saw that too. And Ryan Speier.
MY SHORTSTOP COULD BEAT UP YOUR SHORTSTOP!
by prettyinpurple on Dec 16, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
So I'm graduating on Friday
my coworkers took me out for lunch, and then when I got back, they had a cake and card for me
awesome
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congrats!!
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ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-check it out
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions
Is that really what the top of your cake looks like?
it’s…. groovy, dude.
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haha, that's just the nameplate thingie
the cake was white and delicious
that’s a hunk o’ white chocolate with the words frosted on.
I wish that was the cake, that’d be awesome.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah
I was like damn, that is a psychedelic cake. But very festive.
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yes, the cake is a lie
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:16 PM MST up reply actions
dsfhl;k;zkgzbhdj;fkv
Such a great game. I love Valve.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:19 PM MST up reply actions
I had to take the cheap shot
I’ve only played Portal briefly
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
ok i'll just plug it into my wii
er my ps2
er my brother’s original xbox
er my gamecube
er
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Apple 4eva
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
You're dead to me.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
B^U
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
PC plox.
Steam has it. Or illegally download it and play it. Either way.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
We'll grab lunch over break
I’ll let you borrow my 360 and then your life can be complete.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
ha, ok
thanks
maybe at that point SDTF will accept me again
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
Pffffffffftttttttttt
Playing the 360 is the last thing to do to get me to accept you.
Even if it is Portal.
We’re still cool, though.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions
dude I seriously run like 4 years behind on video games
I can’t afford to be cutting edge, I spend the extra money on live sports
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
Think you're better than me?
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
""reccin dis""
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
someone needs to separate you two
for the good of us all
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I can crawl back to my MHH now.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
URDOINITWRANG
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions
"""reccin dis"""
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions
I can see how much you spend on video games..
based on your Youtube budget.
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by Charlie77 on Dec 16, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna assume the proper response is
“ouch”
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM MST up reply actions
Aww..
I assume you play Pong?
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What the HELL
Its genius, dude.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
I said briefly
I didn’t say “DUR WHAT IS”
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Proof
that everything on earth can become a nerdwar
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Don't judge.
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not
imma just sayin
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Cuuuuute caaaarrrrrddddd!
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by A.J. Haefele on Dec 16, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions
shut up and click this link
http://www.hoyso.com/props/calvin/andhobbes.htm
desktops
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
Congratulations!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Congrats RMN
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 6:53 PM MST up reply actions
Congrats!!!!!
Once I have my thesis signed and bound in January, I’ll be a master of history.
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You too my man
you too
Are you walking in June then?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
I already walked
in my undergrad commencement. No need to bore mysel to death a second time.
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I'm walking twice dammit
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 8:19 AM MST up reply actions
Eh.
I’d rather not listen to another speech unless it’s by Jerry Seinfeld, Paul Simon, Charles B. Wang, or our other famous alum, Ron Jeremy.
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our mayor is speaking?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 8:38 AM MST up reply actions
Unless
Bloomberg’s going to give me some of his fortune, I wouldn’t go.
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well maybe I'm ok with being proud of my accomplishment
and want to share it with my family
and not just a cynic about everything
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Did I mention
that I also sat through the same graduation in 2005 for my brother?
And I may not even be in NY at that point.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 17, 2009 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Where are you going?
Somewhere tropical like North Carolina?
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so, you'll really be
the master of your domain
Seriously though,
Congratulations soon!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
yesssssss
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
Ken Rosenthal about have me a heart attack
He just tweeted about a “hangup in the Holliday trade”. Learn to spell man! You’re worse than those know-nothing ignorant ragamuffin bloggers!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 16, 2009 1:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions
why would that give you a heart attack
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions
too much starpower on the move in a short time
I already imagined him in Yankee pinstripes
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 16, 2009 2:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
ok fair enough
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions
Garrett Atkins has three offers
Crasnick speculates on the Orioles, Twins, Mariners, Giants, and Rangers as possible fits for Atkins.
I think the Orioles are the most likely right now for him.
let's hope a move to the Giants doesn't bite us in the arse
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
He would be better off in the AL
where he could concentrate on hitting, especially as he ages.
He had a sweet swing. If getting cut, motivates him rededicate himself, and work out and fix his issues he could be a nice little bounce back player.
Yeah, no offense to Garrett but I'm not too worried
this comment from a Giants fan about giving him a multi-year deal made me chuckle:
Because Atkins might have a great year and then we have to sign him for more, its better to offer him a multi-year for cheap.. Look what happened to Uribe, and now we can’t even pay him to Comeback
yes Giants yesss
you want to sign Atkins long term
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SAWEEET!!! MLB Network's Prime 9 Top 1st baseman of the Decade--Discuss
1) Albert Pujols
2) Todd Helton
3) Jason Giambi
4)Carlos Delgado
5)Ryan Howard
6)Prince Fielder
7)Justin Morneau
8)Mark Texeira
9)Jim Thome
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Was that on Hot Stove?
I’ll have to watch the replay later this evening if so. Did they praise Todd, or give the typical response about Coors Field inflating stats?
by avsfan4ever33 on Dec 16, 2009 5:52 PM MST up reply actions
Yes it was on HotStove
and Harold gave Todd some love. I didn’t get to hear the whole discussion because my neighbor dropped by.
I’m going to listen again….
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Just caught it during a re-run
Mitch Williams completely ignored Todd, and named Pujols and Thome as the sure fire HOFers from that list. Then he mentioned that Fielder and Howard could also make it in, but it’s too early to tell.
Thankfully Harold Reynolds came on and included Todd in the discussion.
by avsfan4ever33 on Dec 16, 2009 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
So I guess Mitch Williams doesn't care about defense at all (other than Albert)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
I liked Mitch Williams when he first started on MLBN
but of late, his homerism towards the Phillies really came through. I dunno he bugs me now.
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wow...you go girl!
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He should get decent playing time there.
by Greg Stanwood on Dec 16, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
Good luck to him
He had some very solid years with us, and I’m glad he’ll get a chance for solid playing time again. I’m also glad that chance won’t come with the Rockies – it was time to move on.
by avsfan4ever33 on Dec 16, 2009 9:39 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe he'll inflict some damage to the Red Sox or Yankees
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder how much it was for
Says details were not released
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
Camden Chat
is saying it’s a one year deal. No $ amount given.
I hope Atkins gets the wake up call from all this, and actually gets in shape, and works at getting his swing back.
I really hate seeing his potential wasted, cause I really did think he could have been pretty special (as far as hitting)
Atkins
signed by O’s…good for him
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
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yay! for Atty!!! I hope he turns it around..
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Rodrigo Lopez is now a snake.
I actually kinda liked it when he played for us.
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
You still get to root for him when he faces the Dodgers and Giants
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 16, 2009 10:25 PM MST up reply actions
It's looking like Contreras wanted 3 years from the Rockies
but we didn’t “bite”, according to Harding
That said, once Rafa’s been figured out, then they can look at Beimel and Contreras again.
This offseason is completely boring.
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At the end of that contract Contreras would be like 64.
Eschew Obfuscation!
by Jeff Aberle on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 PM MST up reply actions
You say yes (I say "yes") I say no (but I may mean no.)
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 17, 2009 7:52 AM MST up reply actions
Contreras is the new Satchel Paige.
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I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 18, 2009 12:40 AM MST up reply actions
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