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Wednesday Rockpile: Off season progress report, Rockies 2010 playoff chances improve as the team does nothing

So let's take a look back at how the NL ended the 2009 season:


NL West Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Los Angeles 95 67 .586 0 Lost 3
Colorado 92 70 .567 3 Lost 2
San Francisco 88 74 .543 7 Won 1
San Diego 75 87 .462 20 Lost 1
Arizona 70 92 .432 25 Won 1

(updated 12.23.2009 at 10:02 AM EST)



NL Central Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
St. Louis 91 71 .561 0 Lost 6
Chicago 83 78 .515 7.5 Lost 1
Milwaukee 80 82 .493 11 Won 3
Cincinnati 78 84 .481 13 Won 2
Houston 74 88 .456 17 Lost 3
Pittsburgh 62 99 .385 28.5 Lost 2

(updated 12.23.2009 at 10:03 AM EST)



NL East Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Philadelphia 93 69 .574 0 Lost 1
Florida 87 75 .537 6 Lost 1
Atlanta 86 76 .530 7 Lost 6
New York 70 92 .432 23 Won 3
Washington 59 103 .364 34 Won 7

(updated 12.23.2009 at 10:03 AM EST)


So that's your basic straight up standings, if you want to go into more advanced detail (and you probably should) about how these teams stacked up on talent and skill without the luck you can look at Beyond the Boxscore or Baseball Prospectus or something, but straight W's and L's will serve as a solid start for where I'm going with this today.

So let's separate the teams into some talent groups, this time going by what we know of the teams' personnel at the end of last season rather than the standings:

 

Contender A Class (90+ wins)

  • Philadelphia 
  • Los Angeles

 

Contender B Class (86-90 wins)

  • St. Louis
  • Colorado
  • Atlanta 
  • Chicago 

 

.500-ish teams (81-85 wins)

  • Arizona
  • San Francisco
  • Florida
  • Milwaukee
  • New York

 

I realize that the D-backs and Mets didn't finish anywhere close to .500 in 2009 and that the Giants and Marlins finished ahead of a couple of the teams in the group I have above them, but this is where taking out the luck, good or bad, comes in. In the cases of Florida and San Fran, they seemed to benefit from a large positive dose of divine favor in 2009 even as Arizona and New York were seemingly cursed from the get-go. Feel free to quibble with this placement in the comments, but the main point is that these are the 11 teams that appear to have a legitimate shot at making a playoff run in 2010.

Star-divide

 

So far in the off season, we've seen Los Angeles give up Randy WolfOrlando Hudson and Juan Pierre and drop into that second group with the Rockies and Cardinals, while the Phillies have grabbed a couple of minor upgrades with Roy Halladay over Cliff Lee and Placido Polanco over Pedro Feliz and given themselves a little separation from the rest of the league. Right now, it does not appear as if the Dodgers will be able to gain nearly enough of those cast-off wins back to get back to the Phillies level.

In the second group, the Cardinals and Rockies are both taking risks in replacing free agent starters leaving after career seasons, the Cards with Brad Penny in place of Joel Pineiro, the Rockies with the return of Jeff Francis in place of Jason Marquis. Insurance policies for both teams seem to be primarily a cache of young near-ready pitching talent. Both teams have similar bench depth issues to work out as well, the Cardinals need to replace Mark DeRosa and Rick Ankiel, the Rockies, Yorvit Torrealba and Garrett Atkins.

The good news for the Rockies in relation to the Cardinals (should they have to compete with each other for the wild card next season) is that 1) Dan O'Dowd got rid of this "Holliday distraction" the Cardinals are going through which is keeping them from making other moves a couple of years ago, and 2) while both teams can probably expect some regression in their starting rotation performance in 2010, it's usually a safe bet to expect a smaller step back from the team with the younger players, in this case, Colorado. 

The Cubs are hoping that losing Milton Bradley is addition by subtraction, but the team's core seems to be declining as a group fairly rapidly, and actually looking at their ages, with their best hitting talent between the ages of 32-34 next season, I really suspect that they might be dropping into that .500 group without a major rebuild that doesn't involve Carlos Silva. The Braves, meanwhile, looked like they might have a decent team heading into 2010, but their replacement of Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez with Takashi Saito and Billy Wagner is a downgrade for next year, as is yesterday's deal of Javier Vazquez to the YankeesSigning Troy Glaus would be useful, but I still think the overall impact of Atlanta's moves is to add a lot more downside risk to the team in 2010 without a substantial upside improvement.

Of the .500-ish teams, so far, most haven't made any moves that really put them into the next category. The Mets appear to be likely adding Jason Bay, which would be a decent start at that. Arizona got a little better for next year or two in acquiring Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy for Max Scherzer and Daniel Schlereth, but they still seem to be in a 82-85 win range which I think basically just catches them up to the Giants, who have as of yet done nothing. Florida gets a little better by aging a year, but not good enough, and their bullpen has been weakened. San Francisco is putting a lot of eggs into the Madison Bumgarner basket, either he or a second tier free agent like Jon Garland will have to replace the production that Randy Johnson and Brad Penny provided last season. That's a lot to ask given that the rest of their rotation, much like the Rockies, probably isn't going to be quite as good as it was in 2009.

Milwaukee's moves, such trading for Carlos Gomez and signing Wolf and LaTroy Hawkins have been mostly beneath the radar, but I really like what they've done so far. I still think they need more, but at least they're systematically going after the team's weaknesses on a budget without taking the kind of gambles that Atlanta is, or St. Louis did with the Penny acquisition.

So summarizing, the Rockies, who are gaining ground just by maturing into a peak phase, thus far have caught up with the Dodgers, and probably passed them talent-wise, just by sitting on their hands. Arizona's moved up a little and are within range of passing us if things fall their way in 2010, as are the Giants, but to put it in perspective, the gap between the Rockies and both those teams talent wise is probably still larger than it is between the Rockies and the Phillies the other direction.

As for the second playoff option, so far the news has been mostly positive as well, as none of the primary competitors outside the NL West with the possible exception of the Brewers have added enough talent to either make up for the players they've lost, or to otherwise catch up with Colorado. The last couple of seasons the Rockies have had similarly quiet winters, as Dan O'Dowd seems to prefer to wait until mid-season to add salary via trade if the team's in contention rather than going all in for the top free agents. Thus far this off season, I haven't seen any NL team besides the Phillies make moves that should push the Rockies to pursue a less budget conscious course. 

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The Mets and Dbacks certainly belong in this conversation

Especially the Mets, I think they are the most likely candidate for a very strong rebound this year simply because there is NO WAY they get hit by as many crippling injuries again this year.

They need more starting pitching (who doesn’t) but adding Bay to their lineup makes for a very decent offense.

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Dec 23, 2009 10:24 AM MST reply actions  

Careful now this is the Mets

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 23, 2009 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Red links of death!

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 AM MST reply actions  

Not mine.

Does that make me more or less special?

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by frightenedinmate#2 on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

me either

you aren’t special. Or we are both really special

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by Muzia on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

nevermind

refreshed and there they are in all their gory glory

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by Muzia on Dec 23, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions  

The Phillies are infiltrating

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 23, 2009 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

The Phillies are infiltrating infuriating

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by Muzia on Dec 23, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

The wild card here

is Matt Holliday.

If he ends up with either the Cards or Mets, they move up to B+ status.

New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.

by Maris6161 on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 AM MST reply actions  

I don't know...

The Cardinals already had Holliday at the end of last season, so in their case, signing him is just treading water. I think their rotation is due for a step back next season just like the Rockies, Braves and Giants are. As for the Mets, I think PF’s addressed that. I think they would need Holliday or Bay plus Pineiro and Hudson to really advance into the Rockies group.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, but probably not as much as you're thinking.

Almost all of Holliday’s 2009 value came in those last two months with the Cardinals, so it’s almost as if they had the full season’s benefit of Holliday in just half a year. They couldn’t expect two halves in 2010 from Matt like his second half.

Additionally, as I pointed out above they have some key areas where they should expect regression, it seems like all of their best players had career seasons in 2009 and you have to look at those and question how likely it is that they perform as well in 2010, not only Wainwright and Carpenter, but even Albert Pujols, as godlike as he is, isn’t likely to be a 8 win plus player next season. They still have little depth and not enough help in the lineup. So keeping Holliday helps them certainly, but their true talent level is still right around that of the Rockies even with him.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't know about the Cards' rotation slacking off

Wainwright is entering the prime of his career. Carpenter’s an injury risk, but he seemed back to full speed at the end of last year. Penny for Piniero could be a downgrade, but don’t forget that Piniero was nothing special before spending time with Dave Duncan. If he “fixes” Penny, the Cards could have 3 strong starters. Duncan’s a wizard with pitcher rehab projects. The Cards could be very, very good if they can get Holliday.

New decade, new result: time for a Rockies' division championship.

by Maris6161 on Dec 23, 2009 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call it slacking off per se, as these are still two excellent pitchers,

It’s more just expecting them to be performing according to their career standards rather than the unworldly performances they got out of Carpenter and Wainwright last season. Carpenter has a Cardinals career ERA+ of 147, last season it was 183. And yes Wainwright’s in his prime now, but partially because of that, his 2009 season has all the markings of a career year and it’s very unlikely to be duplicated by him. It’s similar to what I see with Ethier with the Dodgers.

The performance up to that point by both players made seasons like 2009 possible if not somewhat likely at some point in their careers, but they really do mark pinnacles of achievement that there’s nowhere really to go from but down. If they don’t start dropping off back to a normal “very good” range, it would mean they’re on an HOF trajectory, and as good as those two players are, I just don’t see that as the case.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I have a theory on the whole Bay/Holliday thing

I think most teams interested in a slugging left fielder would prefer Holliday over Jason Bay; problem is that Scott Boras is not going to have Holliday sign anywhere until Jason Bay does (following his usual strategy of let someone else set the market price and then tell teams why his client deserves more). I think there will be a few teams that come out of the woodwork (most notably the Yankees) in the Holliday sweepstakes once Bay sings. However, I think Bay is not signing because he is waiting for more teams to get in the running and jack the price up.

The result is this circular waiting game. Bay waits for more teams to get involved while Holliday suitors wait to see where the market price will land.

I havn’t heard any reports of this it’s just a theory of mine. What do you all think?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 23, 2009 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

His perceived defensive advantage is huge over Bay

so according to your theory, Jason will sign before Matt (and I completely agree). But I think they will both end up signing for very similar amounts.

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by Muzia on Dec 24, 2009 1:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Left out of the conversation

is the fact that Washington will definitely be the Wild Card team for the NL in 2010.

by WanderingRoxFan on Dec 23, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions  

and super Strasburg power the Nats to 90 wins

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 23, 2009 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

which means we HAVE to take the division

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

I actually think the Nats will be something to deal with

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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by SDcat09 on Dec 23, 2009 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I think eventually yes,

If not right away. Marquis will help and once super Aztec Stephen Strasburg is ready then, boom! I’m also a Nyger Morgan fan.

by Since1993 on Dec 24, 2009 12:02 AM MST up reply actions  

And Ryan Zimmerman...

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2009 8:24 AM MST up reply actions  

they won 59 games last year

they won’t win more than 70 this year

by Jim Jiminez on Dec 24, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I say they'll win 80

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 24, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Not that I see them on the Phillies' level

But I think the Braves made more improvement than given credit for.

If Troy Glaus is okay for something like .250 avg and 30ish home runs – that gives them a solid middle order bat that could play everyday (injury risk aside) which is something they don’t have with Chipper Jones or Brian McCann.

I also think Derek Lowe should have a better season and we’ve also left out the fact that they will have full seasons from Tommy Hanson, Tim Hudson, and Nate McLouth.

Additionally, they won’t have Kelly Johnson’s .220 avg hampering them, nor Jeff Francouer.

Of course, all of this really hinges on Glaus having a healthy return…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 11:39 AM MST reply actions  

And don't most people think

that superprospect (Heyward?) is going to have a Braun/Longoria type impact?

by Teekalong on Dec 23, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I left him off just because rookies are so unpredictable

but yea, he’s definitely a big wildcard

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

oops, I should have looked closer at your comment

and rephrased mine before posting to avoid the “definitely a big wild card” repetition.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

nah don't worry no one will notice

you made wildcard two words – that changes everything

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

such a card!

and not just a card, but a WILD one!

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

raise

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Heyward's definitely a big wild card that could benefit them a lot if things go well.

It’s similar to the situation in San Francisco with Bumgarner and Posey. If those two perform up to the hopes of Giants fans, we’re in trouble.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

If [INSERT PROSPECT] up to the hopes of [INSERT TEAM] fans, we’re in trouble.

This can be pretty universally stated. Whether it’s Giants’ fans seemingly consistent practice of overvaluing their prospects or the very raw nature of Bumgarner and Posey, I’m not greatly concerned about them (as maybe I should be).

On the other hand, if Carlos Gonzalez, Chris Iannetta, Jhoulys Chacin, Samuel Deduno and Ian Stewart produce to the levels Rox fans hope, the rest of the division is in big trouble too :)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 23, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess the logic is

Heyward is on a whole different level, but yea

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, heyward is definitely on a different level

And I figure he will have much more impact than bumgarner or posey, but I can’t see him pulling a longoria/braun

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 23, 2009 12:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

And that last caveat is exactly why I'm dubious about them right now...

Not only Glaus, but Wagner and Saito are huge health risks. Hudson’s a pretty substantial one as well.

Glaus has averaged 123 games since becoming a regular player for the Angels in 1999, 116 over the last five, I think estimating somewhere around 3/4 of a season from him would be the safe way to go.

Other things you say also kind of fall into a rosiest of all scenarios outlook and we could do something similar with all 11 of these teams and come to similarly optimistic conclusions. In truth, a full season of Hanson isn’t likely to be as valuable as the partial season he had in 2009 according to most projections I’ve seen. McClouth’s not quite as good as he was with the Braves either. Jones is declining, Brian McCann has been used a lot and might not be able to produce at the level he did this past season much longer.

by Rox Girl on Dec 23, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Glaus aside

I think full seasons from Mclouth, Hanson, and Hudson (whom I don’t consider an injury risk for reasons that are unclear to me) and not having johnson and francoeur will be big.

But you’re right, a lot of their potential success next season is totally built on sand…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Hudson

has been pretty durable, his TJ surgery not withstanding. Seems like so many guys have come back fine from that, that it is probably unwise to say “oh he had Tommy John surgery, he’s a health risk now”.

by Hizilla on Dec 23, 2009 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

They lost Vazquez and the career year he had last year though

That’s a lot of out to make up for.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 23, 2009 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

out outs

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 23, 2009 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Which is going to be huge for them.

Trading Kawakami or Lowe would have been the smart thing to do – but sounds like that wasn’t really an option.

by Hizilla on Dec 23, 2009 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know

I mean, I think their return on Vazquez was a little underwhelming – but if you think about it, they’re selling high on Vazquez, whereas they would have been selling low on Lowe. I doubt Vazquez is that good again (in either league), and that Lowe is that bad.

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree Vazquez won't be that good again

but Vazquez being so good last year is why I think it’s such a big loss for the Braves. In order to make up for his absence, the Braves need to make up for last year’s numbers; not whatever his numbers are this year in New York. (The same would have been true if he had not been traded. He would have to duplicate last year’s numbers to give the Braves the same value they got last year; which I don’t think he would have done.)

I do think the Braves are contenders though. Last year they were five games under their expected pythagorean win/loss and the only NL team that underachieved more by that measure was the Washington Nationals. That may be enough to offset the Vazquez loss. I agree with Rox Girl’s projection with the Braves ending up between 86 and 90 wins.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 24, 2009 12:00 AM MST up reply actions  

It wasn't really a prediction yet

More of a look where the teams were talent-wise at the end of last season. So for most, possibly including the Braves, my prediction for 2010 wouldn’t be that different than where I’ve grouped them above, but as I said in the post, I think the Dodgers have dropped to the 86-90 win level rather than the 91+ level they were at last season.

I really think the Braves are borderline right now, in the 85-86 win range where as at the end of last season I would have pegged them as an 88-90 win team.

by Rox Girl on Dec 24, 2009 9:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Yea

I was kind of underwhelmed, regardless of what KLaw seems to think. They got a maybe league average OF, and a pitching prospect that is a LONG way away, seems like there was something more out there for a guy that has been every bit as valuable as Cliff Lee over the last 3 years – especially considering they also sent a good lefty reliever to the Yankees who is controllable and has an option left.

by Hizilla on Dec 24, 2009 1:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Pitching takes a decent hit

Offense should be improved on the scale of 3-4 wins when everything is said and done. The Braves should be contenders.

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by Muzia on Dec 24, 2009 1:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't know
I also think Derek Lowe should have a better season

He was 15-10 last year. Most of his other stats look about right for a pitcher that left a pitchers park for a hitters park.
What more could the Braves expect from a pitcher that turns 37 on June1?

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Dec 23, 2009 11:57 AM MST reply actions  

Reply fail

The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.

by rockieprogress on Dec 23, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Get more ground balls?

His gb avg for seasons2006-2008 was 64%, this past year it was 56%. True it’s been declining for some time, but still, 56% seems a bit low for a guy of his pedigree…

"These are thin mints. I put them in the freezer. My favorites. So good."
--Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, on the girl scout cookies he keeps in his locker

by Resolution on Dec 23, 2009 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

the 15-10 thing is meaningless

4.67 ERA, 4.06 FIP, 4.19 xFIP, 4.45 tRA, 4.49 tRA* – none of those suggest anything other than absurdly pedestrian

oh and xFIP and tRA* are park adjusted (iirc)

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

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by Russ Oates on Dec 23, 2009 1:51 PM MST reply actions  

I just got a secret santa gift

Hell. Yes.

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 3:42 PM MST reply actions  

Secret Santa must

know that you’re a big party guy.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 23, 2009 4:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for alerting us

We’re gonna need really dark sunglasses when we sit next to you next season. And hats. Pulled down way way way low. ;-)

Hell. Yes.

Enjoy!

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by Mondogarage on Dec 23, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions  

That is frightening....

totally cool mind you, but frightening..

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 23, 2009 8:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Promise to wear this

and I will buy you tix with me next year.

ROCKEFELLER!!!

by Muzia on Dec 24, 2009 1:20 AM MST up reply actions  

For the other guys sake...

I hope there is somebody else in the world who has this shirt, because the first person i see wearing this on 20th and blake this year is getting one free beer on my behalf just for having the cajones to wear that in public. now that i think of it im going to get the cerveca for the guys who are sitting next to the guy wearing this shirt the whole game, that totally belongs on a golf course.

by KDub1988 on Dec 24, 2009 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

dammit, that shirt is a Large, and I HAVE to wear it now

This offseason is completely boring.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 24, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions  

its large?

I was going to say your secret Santa knows you well, but I can’t fit in a large most times

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 24, 2009 3:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

as long as we don't pay him dick I don't care

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You can pay with that?

I feel like a lot of doors in life just opened up for me.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 23, 2009 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

only mike piazza

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by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 5:34 PM MST up reply actions  

golf clap

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Let's be careful

with this. I did delete a comment earlier with a gif of someone with something strapped on.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 23, 2009 5:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

well i didn't post one of those gifs

so perhaps repliers should be careful

This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber

by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahaha

I understand the inappropriate nature but that still sounds hilarious.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 23, 2009 7:55 PM MST up reply actions  

second

This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber

by Andrew Martin on Dec 23, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes please.

Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]

by GoRockies!! on Dec 23, 2009 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

agree

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 23, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes please. Now. Right now.

Bathrobes all around.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Dec 23, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

i got a bathrobe for my birthday

regrettably it’s not a rockies one, but still pretty badass

This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber

by Andrew Martin on Dec 24, 2009 2:33 AM MST up reply actions  

God is gonna cut you down

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

by squalene203 on Dec 23, 2009 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

but....

did you wear the robe whilst singing?

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 23, 2009 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I feel you're overrating the Cubs and Brewers by one tier each

But apart from that, it does seem that four spots will be up for grabs between 10 teams.

I’m hoping the Cubs continue to implode. I don’t know if I can get that from the Mets again.

Merry Rocksmas to all and have a good Broncuary (Nugguary? Av-year? What do people call that?)

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
Is Vinny Del Negro fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Dec 24, 2009 4:12 PM MST reply actions  

Current NL Rankings

if I had to do them now, knowing that teams will still be adding free agents and perhaps making trades.

1. Phillies
2. Braves
3. Rockies
4. Cardinals
5. Dodgers
6. Mets
7. Giants
8. Diamondbacks
-—— Only above teams have realistic shot at playoffs -——-
9. Cubs
10. Marlins
oh, what the heck… here are the rest.
11. Brewers
12. Reds
13. Astros
14. Nationals
15. Pirates
16. Padres

by Xeifrank on Dec 24, 2009 11:27 PM MST reply actions  

I just don't see the Braves as having the firepower necessary to be that good

This offseason is completely boring.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber

by Andrew Martin on Dec 25, 2009 12:16 AM MST up reply actions  

IAWTC

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 25, 2009 2:07 AM MST up reply actions  

That's a pretty dreamy Dodgers placement

I could see 5 teams in your no hope category winning their season series against LA.

by Salty on Dec 26, 2009 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Welcome to Purple Row

The Dodgers have quite a bit of talent, and they will still add a few pieces to improve. I think they are rather close to that 5 slot that Xeifrank has them listed. This is baseball and it is a long season so things can happen (see: Diamondbacks 2009).

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 26, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

as a reference

the Braves 2009 team received 17.9 WAR from their hitters and 23.4 WAR from their pitchers (per Fangraphs) for a total of 41.3 WAR. That alone put them in the high 80s for win totals that should’ve/could’ve been and they did win 86.

For 2010 they lose Javier Vazquez but gain a full year of both Tommy Hanson and Tim Hudson. Their #5 starter still continues to be Kenshin who is right around a league average (2.0 WAR) pitcher, which is not bad. On offense, they continue to have a stud behind the plate in Brian McCann along with solid production from guys like Chipper Jones, Yunel Escobar and Nate McLouth. Troy Glaus will provide solid production and a decent glove over at first base and Melkey Cabrera, even though he is league average will still be a big upgrade over the awful production that they received from Garrett Anderson in the 2009 season.

I have the Braves at 89.3 WAR right now, with the Rockies at 89.0 and the Cardinals and Dodgers at 87+. I think the Braves continue to be one of the most underrated teams in all of baseball. I see no reason for them to drop off significantly from their nearly 90 WAR from last year.

vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Dec 25, 2009 12:30 AM MST reply actions  

ARE YOU JOHN KRUK IN DISGUISE? :-)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 25, 2009 2:09 AM MST up reply actions  

heh,...that's what I was wondering

Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.

Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 25, 2009 6:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I could see where you're coming from,

I guess I still see too much risk with the Braves compared to other teams. Even though the talent is there, I think there’s too much of their hope wrapped in players that are either 34 or over: Hudson, Lowe, Kawakami, Jones, Glaus, Wagner and Saito make up 7/15’s of the core of the team, including most of the rotation; or 24 or younger: Hanson, Jurrgens, and Heyward. At either of these ends of a professional career, there’s a lot more volatility, and building so much of it into one team is kind of dangerous, so in projecting them a couple of wins lower I think I’m trying to take that into account.

I could see the Braves swinging pretty far in either direction, if they stay healthy all season, then yes they’re probably better than the Rockies, but I see their chances of staying healthy as significantly lower than ours.

by Rox Girl on Dec 28, 2009 8:53 AM MST up reply actions  

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