Thursday Rockpile: NL West off season overview as we head into 2010. I mean literally, it's like we're no longer kids tomorrow.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 9:27 AM MST
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This week in the NL West we've seen the Giants sign Mark DeRosa, U-IF/OF, and Juan Uribe, U-IF, the D-backs sign Kelly Johnson, 2B, and the Rockies get closer to signing Miguel Olivo, C. The Dodgers are working out a deal with Larry Fornbogger, Credit and Debt Counselor, and the Padres.., well, I'm not sure, actually. I sort of forgot about them.
At any rate, let's hash out what this all means:
Arizona -
gets a baseball KJ -
As IHateSouthBend at the Snakepit points out, and as you probably already know if you read PF's NL West in Review 2nd Basemen report, Kelly Johnson or any D-back second baseman is going to be very hard pressed to duplicate the production the Snakes got from the position in 2009. So while some, like MLB.com fantasy writer Alex Cushing say this is the "most underrated move of the offseason", keep it clear that this is a downgrade for Arizona from where they were last season.
What signing Johnson does do, however, is significantly lessen the likelihood of total loss. Whereas the three players the D-backs had penciled in to the keystone before obtaining Johnson were either too young and inexperienced in the majors and not that great in the minors (Ryan Roberts and Tony Abreu) or too old and Augie Ojeda-like (Augie Ojeda) to automatically assume greater than replacement level production, with Johnson, a player in his prime a year removed from a couple of very solid seasons, I don't have the same hesitation. I think before they were likely to get better than zero production at second, I just wasn't confident enough in that to say with any certainty, particularly since so much of that prior assumed production was tied to the players' defense.
Now if this move, as is suggested in the Snakepit post via the D-backs' MLB.com writer Steve Gilbert, indicates that the Diamondbacks are likely to trade Ojeda, it would be taking the risk in the other direction because the value here in part stems from a safety in numbers thing, but Johnson does seem the safer bet of the two. All in all, it's a solid cost conscious pickup for a team on a budget.
Now, there will be an inevitable cry among some Rockies fans about why our team didn't try harder to pick up Johnson themselves. For one, he really did seem to like Arizona, and once they sweetened their initial offer, he jumped on it. What's more, there might be better bargains by waiting. Orlando Hudson's $3.38 million deal in 2009 was just $1 million more than what Johnson signed for. Hudson, Felipe Lopez, Ronnie Belliard, Adam Kennedy and several other middle infielders are still available. Second, he's another left handed bat, and that doesn't really help the team with one of its biggest offensive flaws, and Johnson is somebody you pick up for offensive purposes.
San Francisco -
Added to acquiring Mark DeRosa, this makes perfect sense because while Mark DeRosa is a mediocre hitting thirtysomething former shortstop whose most valuable current position is third base, Uribe's a mediocre hitting thirtysomething former shortstop whose most valuable current position is second base. And since the Giants don't currently have either a third or second baseman, this adds a lot to that team... oh, wait...
Yeah, I really don't know what the Giants are doing at this point. Their next target may be Adam LaRoche or Yorvit Torrealba, which continues the process of stacking more mediocrity on top of the mediocrity they already have.
Colorado -
Rockies focus on signing Miguel Olivo -
As the post last night indicated, Olivo's coming in to replace Torrealba. While I was thinking about strong armed players that could home runs but provide little else at the plate, I wondered why Khalil Greene never gets mentioned as a potential utility bat. Possibly because we already have that kind of player in Barmes, only with better defense, and now another hitter like that in Olivo. At any rate, though, I don't know what Greene's prospects are this winter, but if he's down to looking at the best minor league/split contract with an NRI, I wouldn't mind if the Rockies put out a feeler.
Los Angeles -
Dodgers need salary relief before signing additional free agents?
If having to defer payments on Jamey Carroll's 2 year, $4 million wasn't a crystal clear sign that LA's finances are out of whack, I don't know what else we need to see. My hope at this point is that Frank McCourt gets to keep the team in the divorce settlement and he figures out a way to hang around as Dodgers owner for a few more seasons.
San Diego -
Who? oh, them. Yeah. Uhm... sorry, I've got to wash my hair, or do laundry or something. I'll look something up on San Diego later, I swear.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 31, 2009 9:33 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
burrrrrrrrrrrrrn
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 9:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Why, after reading that,
do I envision you saying that in a Jackie Burkhart voice?
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by Russ Oates on Dec 31, 2009 9:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I....
I don’t know…
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim actually did NOT write the Pit article
IHateSouthBend did. But yeah, I can’t see KJ being an upgrade over the Lopez/Roberts/Ojeda/Ryal09 carousel
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 9:54 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
whoops, thanks for the byline correction.
My apologies to all parties for the missed attribution.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post
and if you guys are starving for offseason ideas how about a look at possible BLOCKBUSTER midseason acquisitions if the Rockies are in the hunt?
by moomacher on Dec 31, 2009 9:56 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Is it me being pessimistic...
or is this offseason eerily similar to the offsesason after the ‘07 season? Instead of trying to get better, the Rockies are content going into the ’10 season with essentially the same team that they fielded last year, minus a 15 game winner. I am by no means advocating that the Rockies should have gone after guys like John Lackey or other big name guys, but making a harder push for guys like Matt Capps or Justin Duchscherer would have made me a lot happier. The reality of Jeff Francis’ injury is that he will most likely never be the same pitcher that he was. He will probably be a 5th starter type. It seems like the Rockies are going to see if they can simply be competitive in 2010, giving their farm guys like McKenry, Chacin, Rogers and Deduno another year to grow up and try to win in 2011. Thoughts?
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 9:56 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
At least we haven't signed Kip Wells
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hush you...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the difference is in the last sentence there
I don’t think we had nearly the pitching depth we did in 2008, I mean, come on, we had Mark Redman in the Opening Day rotation. Mark Spanking Redman.
In Capps’ case, I think O’Dowd is on board with Jabberwocky in thinking that relievers are fungible assets to some extent and shouldn’t be paid top dollar, especially with the aforementioned pitching depth. Duke just wanted to stay with his club, IMO.
Thing with Francis is that we don’t need him to be an ace, or even a #2, we have those. Instead, if he’s only a #5-caliber pitcher with a wicked changeup and 175+ innings to him, we come out ahead. Hammel is showing signs of improving on 2009 (and if you check back on the CR archive, he pitched above the level of most #4s in baseball), and DLR still has flashes of #2 ability (immediately tempered by the slogging “bad jorge” days – which, I might add, were fewer and fewer as 2009 went on). If Cook is truly healthy and Ubaldo is as much the man as I hope in my heart he is, that’s 4 good starters there, with a possible Francis/Contreras/Morales/Chacin/Rogers/Deduno/scrapheap acquisition there to just kind of fill in the gaps.
The other difference is that while we’re “staying the same”, our team is younger than 2007 IIRC, just in the form of Gonzalez, Fowler, Stewart, and who knows, maybe even EYJ. That said, we’re banking on them growing and improving to kind of take the place of a big name acquisition.
Also remember that in 2008 we got wrecked with injuries to everyone not named Atkins
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, looking at 2008
I forgot how terrible out offense was. Tulo. Helton, and Atkins all had sub .800 OPS, and we gave over 500 at bats to a center fielder that put up a .604 OPS
by moomacher on Dec 31, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT HE WRECKED OUR SB RECORD
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point...
but teams that get “wrecked with injuries,” in my mind, did not prepare for inevitable injuries. The Rockies were screwed in ’08 when Jeff Francis was not himself because Mark Redman was already in the rotation…the back up plan was Kip Wells, and beyond that Josh Towers.
While this season is certainly different, I am afraid that the Rockies are really not taking into consideration how much of a difference Jason Marquis made. As much as he faded, he still won 15 games, without him there are no playoffs…and Im not saying we should have resigned Marquis, I do not see a move, or a series of moves, to replace 15 wins.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you dont have to replace all 15 wins with one guy
francis could be a 9-10 game winner, jorge and ubaldo can pickup 1-2 wins each and cook and hammell can replace the rest
by purplesocks on Dec 31, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is exactly what worries me...
we are banking on guys like Jorge De La Rosa, who showed incredible talent and potential, to have an even better year in 2010 than he did in ’09, which was far and away better than he has ever produced. While I believe that ’09 is more where he falls talent wise, I still worry about his psyche and whether or not he can be depended on to have another ’09, let alone a few more wins.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see DLR as getting any better
maybe like shaving off corners and rough spots and stuff like that, but I think he has figured out how to be effective. I don’t see his ERA/FIP as being insurmountable to repeat.
I think we’re on the same page in a sense about DLR, with the exception of the psyche/composure issue. I feel he’s made strides, and knows what’s expected and how to accomplish said expectations after the past 2 years.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He sure wasn't consistent though
that could be an improvement
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he ever will be
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually okay with his inconsistency to some extent,
I’d rather a guy like him give up 2 runs, 1 run, 2 runs, 7 runs, than one that gives up three to four every time out. What’s sort of troubling about it is that it definitely seems a bad early in the season/late good kind of inconsistency that several other members of our team have. We need more hot starting Raul Ibanez types.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well, what's realistic?
You don’t stock a bench full of starting caliber players unless you’re willing to put up NYY payrolls, which we can’t. That’s why backups are backups, they can fill gaps, but they aren’t meant to be starters.
It’s not as if we just lost one guy, we lost Holliday, Hawpe, Francis, Tulo, Helton. Those guys aren’t easy to replace To replace 2 guys who bat at a .900+ OPS level, 2 guys who bat at a .850+ OPS level, and a 4 win pitcher isn’t the kind of thing you can do with just random AAA guys or even good offseason moves.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
*also I know that Hawpe and Holliday played most of the season
but we lost them for a month apiece
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the Rockies...
can’t go pull a Yankees and sign any free agent good enough to be a starter and stockpile them…I guess I am looking for something similar to the Jason Marquis deal, which I realize we were spoiled with last year, but was the move that put the Rockies in the playoffs.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The return of Francis to anything decent
could be the exact move you are looking for. If he is healthy, and all reports claim he is, we will be in good shape.
He’s a major piece we don’t have to give up anything to acquire.
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To me that is a huge IF
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a big IF
but this is all speculation. The Marquis deal isn’t going to happen again, and we are already near our budget with very few upgrades remaining on the market.
Now if we sign Hudson for $2.5M…
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A year ago
Jason Marquis doing anything close to what he did in 2009 was a HUGE IF
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really...
He had won at least 11 games in five straight seasons…he was a consistent producer.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
with average-to-poor ERAs
suggesting that the best he would do for us would be pitch 175 innings and not make us call back up Greg Reynolds
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In four of those five seasons he pitched 190+ innings.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
which is great
the quality of those innings was pretty poor in general
2009 was a good year for Marquis.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
2009
was indeed a good year for Marquis.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
One might say it was a marquee year for Marquis :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was funny
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
punny can be funny too
everyone’s sense of humor is different….
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yukyukyuk
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 12:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wah wah wahhhhhhhh
I was commenting during the season to my roommate about how our team was pretty full of no-names anymore, no real marquee players.
He told me that we have 1.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
golf clap
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And...
He was a HUGE IF, but he was there strictly as a backup plan if Francis wasn’t healthy…I am ok with a HUGE IF, when the IF is a backup plan.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There are toooo many
different “if’s” in there to respond :)
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, but not strongly enough to like overturn anything you said here
The thing with Marquis is we got REAL lucky there. Jim Hendry is an idiot, and Marquis performed WAY over his own head. Not to say he didn’t actually do it or anything, but we all know he’s really not as good of a pitcher as 2009 suggests.
That said, he rated as being worth 4 wins to the club above what a replacement level pitcher could provide. That’s pretty huge right there. A league-average pitcher SHOULD provide roughly a 2-win workload, and if Francis can provide that, I’ll sit back quietly and hope the difference is made up somewhere else.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There is also
help on the way in the bullpen with a combo of Weathers/Bucky/and Corpas
by moomacher on Dec 31, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am very hesitant
to put any stock in an injured pitcher making any notable contributions until they prove me wrong.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but with three above average arms
if one comes good it would be a nice addition to the pen
by moomacher on Dec 31, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
one thing though is we were pretty lucky on the injury front this year
i doubt we are injured as bad as 08 but i expect more injuries than last year
by purplesocks on Dec 31, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Duke just wanted to stay with his club, IMO
was that your opinion or was that what he said?
The A’s were supportive throughout, and Duchscherer is grateful for their sensitivity. He considered going to another team, largely so he could be closer to his son, who lives near Philadelphia. But Duchscherer felt comfortable in Oakland, and he likes the idea of helping Oakland’s young rotation.f
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I did no research whatsoever
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that being the case
you were spot on…oh and that second quote was from a SFGate article…turns out that after his bout with depression he wanted to maintain the status quo and stand by the team that stood by him.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is probably going to take a longer post
For now, the big difference between the 2007 to 2008 winter and the 2009 to 2010 winter is the talent level of the team.
Tulo’s no longer a rookie,
The rotation and bullpen are miles ahead of where we were at that point even with Francis’ somewhat iffy situation (and the “reality” of his injury isn’t quite “reality” anymore as the success of labrum surgeries has taken off), remember we gave a combined 30 starts to Mark Redman, Livan Hernandez and Greg Reynolds,
We aren’t relying on good Willy Taveras or bust in center field
No Jayson Nix
You might accuse me of drinking purple Kool-Aid, but I think you’re comparing apples and oranges.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Apples to Oranges...
yes, they are different teams, but there are still issues…
Tulo is no longer a rookie, but he is a notoriously slow starter, Brad Hawpe is on the decline, Clint Barmes is still in the everyday lineup.
The rotation is better, but there are no backup plans in case of injury.
Everyone simply expects the Carlos Gonzalez of the NLDS to be at the ballpark everyday…that just isn’t realistic. I think that the young guys will get better, but that is essentially what we were banking on in ’08.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll itemize this in the interest of cohesive thought and organization...I get scattered
1. Tulo is no longer a rookie. In 2008, Tulowitzki tore his quad. You can’t forecast that. Barmes did a good job replacing him until HE got hurt too. Tulo is a slow starter, but that’s the hand we’ve been dealt. We’re not going to replace him for 2 months and then just dump him in and expect him to be amazing because he skipped the slow start. That’s baseball. Lots of excellent players are slow starters.
2. Hawpe IS on the decline. We agree on this.
3. 2B is becoming the new SS, in that there isn’t a wealth of offensive 2B talent out there, so teams will start a defense-first option there.
4. The rotation backup plans include: Chacin, Rogers, Deduno, Morales, potentially Contreras, and the ever-available Alan Johnson. Plus, a lot of these depth signings don’t happen until late January/early February anyhow.
5. I don’t anticipate him being a .500 batter or anything that absurd, but I don’t see him being a .825+ OPS guy with elite-level defense as an unreasonable expectation.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair evaluation...
1.My hope is that there is a quick trigger on Hawpe, considering most likely Smith is once again the odd man out.
2.There is no doubt that the farm system is deep with pitching talent, but this organization is no longer one that guys can learn on the job. The Rockies need guys who are ready to win, and win now. No matter how much talent a guy has, there is a learning curve, I would like to see the Rockies have a backup plan so that there is only one guy going through growing pains, rather than two or three.
3. I agree, depth moves will come as the market thins out, I just hope the depth moves are not guys who flop as badly as Kip Wells.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
1. From what I’ve seen, the FO shares your Cargo skepticism – which, btw, is totally a fair skepticism, I share it myself – and therefore the Hawpe trigger will be a slow one. The Smith Injustice should be protested.
2. Again, true, but to a point. To have an entirely seasoned team again requires payrolls to supply one. Look at the other teams that have one recently. Philly sported JA Happ in 2009 and made it to the WS, and he learned in the pen in 2008. Clayton Kershaw did a good job learning on the job (and I know that none of our pitching prospects are of the caliber of Kershaw, I’m just using him as a point) for 2 Dodger playoff teams, outcome be damned. Point is, the majority of the team has some semblance of seasoning by now, so it won’t absolutely kill us if we need to let one guy cut his teeth during a hunt. Now, if we’re talking like 4 or 5 guys, well, we’ll see you in 2011.
3. Provided we’re paying them jack squat and they only flop enough to allow for SpillySlams and the like, I can deal with that ;-)
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The one thing you're not considering
is mid year trades. Constructed as is, even considering Francis, the team is pretty well equipped to make it to July in serious contention, probably even with a minor injury or two (hope not). The team should have some payroll flexibility at that point, that they won’t if they go out and sign FA’s right now. I’d honestly rather have that, and be able to go make a 2010 Betancourt/Beimel trade, than buy roster filler right now.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting perspective
I see that point…
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The FA's out there
that I like that are affordable are all injury risks themselves. I’d rather see what the team’s got coming out of ST, see if Francis is healthy and effective, see if one of the minor league guys – and there are a ton of them – can step up, and then go plug whatever holes may or may not appear.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a pet peeve of mine
Colorado talk radio and your average caller/DP commenter rakes the Rockies through coals every offseason for not making a splash or doing more, yet there’s never anything specific. “Trade for Halladay” doesn’t count. That’s only halfway specific
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you did there
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I checked to see
if you were mobile posting first. I realized I haven’t seen a PF double post all morning and went with it…
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, in office today
I actually exchanged my Blackberry for a different one, same model, upgraded software, and I haven’t had as issue since
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that...
the average Rockies fan is ridiculous…but I don’t think that real Rockies fans need to be the polar opposite. I think we can reasonably suggest the Rockies make some moves to increase depth.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting really tired of people saying Brad Hawpe is on the decline
This is not an attack against you Sandlotkid8, it’s just a response to a general consensus that I think has formed around here. In the last four seasons Brad Hawpe’s OBP has been between .381 and .387 every single year while his batting average has stayed between .283 and .293 and his HR total has stayed between 22 and 29 every single year. His OPS, SLG, and OPS+ all went up in 2007, down in 2008, and back up again in 2009 and did not show any major fluctuations from any one season to another. Brad Hawpe is not on the decline!!! Brad Hawpe Hawpe in an incredibly streaky hitter who had a terrible second half of 2009.
I know that a lot of us want him traded and I agree that it makes sense but I think this is coulding our judgement of Hawpe’s 2010 potential production.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed this as well
his full-season results are pretty stable
I guess when you look at how drastic the streakiness is, I see that as signs of decline.
You’re right, it may just be a misnomer. Point is that he’s getting to an age where he may have 1 or 2 years of awesome left and then it all goes away, and his fielding isn’t exactly getting any better.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WELL HIS UZR DID GO FROM -37.2 TO -21.3 LAST YEAR
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why are you typing in all caps
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To indicate sarcasm
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My reasoning...
for Hawpe being on the decline is his lack of being able to make adjustments. I realize that baseball players go through prolonged slumps, but pitchers adjusted to Hawpe after the All Star break and he couldn’t make the adjustments to be a better second half hitter. To me, a guy who can’t make adjustments and essentially slumps for 200-300 at bats, at his age, is on the decline.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That may be true for this season but look at 2008
It was backwards from 2009. Hawpe’s first half numbers from 2008 look like Hawpe’s second half numbers from 2009, but around the ASB that year Hawpe made ajustments and put together a torrid second half.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Hawpe just has longer streaks in either direction
than most players. I don’t see that streakiness in long stretches means a decline.
He can still hit for power. If he can figure out how to hit lefties again, welp, lookout :)
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by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what it is with Hawpe
His season ending total from one season to another show he’s a consistant player from year to year but the numbers within some of those seasons are crazy. I think with him you just have to remember not to be fooled by small sample size and instead look at his last several seasons as a whole.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agree...
and while I know you think he should be traded, I still especially appreciated your original post about his perceived decline.
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by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought something had to be said to turn that ship around
I mean even some of the big Saber people on here who have educated me so much on baseball knowledge and things like sample size were starting to look at Hawpe’s numbers in the vacuum of one season.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who expects that of CarGo?
Do you have a post you can point out of evidence that “everyone” is thinking we have a full time .500 hitter next season?
Nobody here is expecting him to be better. Most, as far as I’m aware are expecting varying degrees of a step back. There are possibly two or three position Rockies in the lineup that we do expect better of, Stewart and Spilborghs and possibly Iannetta, maybe. It’s not an unreasonable expectation for any of them given what we know of how players age and work around a mean. Even if these three all stay flat, though, the team still isn’t dropping to the level of suckitude it had in 2008, particularly the start of that year.
You simply don’t have the out machines that were Taveras and Nix. Atkins isn’t going to be taking up the bulk of third base starts and comparing the expectations of young players like Taveras and Nix to players like Gonzalez and Stewart and Fowler would have scouts rolling on the floor with laughter at you. The Rockies have a higher grade of player right now. I’m not saying it’s all peachy keen and we should just sit on our hands, but it almost seems like you’re advocating movement for movement’s sake without a real clear purpose behind it or at least without regard to player value.
We know the Rockies do want to add some safeguards for Francis and the bullpen as well as better bench options, we know that they can’t really go after the clear cut starters out there because there’s no guarantee of a job here and that’s what those free agents would want or else they would end up signing where they’re most comfortable like Duchscherer did. So I’m not at all convinced that what you’re saying about the team staying on the sideline is particularly true either, it seems we’re just waiting out the better deals for the team’s needs. We’re not making massive moves like the Mariners, but we didn’t have the same needs as the Mariners.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
good work on the Duke spelling
I usually just give up and type Dusch Duchsrr Duke
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've at last memorized how to spell his name.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
only 4 letters for me!
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think my thoughts are more based...
off of worry. I see a National League West that is very winnable. The Rockies have most of the tools that are needed to compete and have a chance to win it, but the ebbs and flows of baseball might suggest that several Rockies had good years last year and may take a step back this year (De La Rosa, Hammel, Street, even Barmes with his power numbers). I realize that there are guys that you pointed out that were on the other side of that, and should perform better, but I think that the majority of my thoughts come from concerns that the front office is assuming everyone will perform as well as last year, and that Jeff Francis will be a 12-14 game winner.
As far as Cargo…I over spoke when I said “everyone.” I think there is an optimism due to his performance down the stretch and in the postseason that many people think he is already at Carlos Beltran level.
I am just afraid that reality is going to slap us in the face.
Am I way off base??
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
YES
no, I don’t know. The thing is that other clubs also have massive holes and could be crippled by injury, it’s not just us. They’re not all making perfect moves either. See: Cubs, Chicago.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you're way off base
I think were now just getting into the beauty of baseball and it’s unpredictability. I mean sure Cargo could be another Carlos Beltran but thre’s no way to know. It would be wrong to expect it but it’s in the realm of possiblity. Cargo is still a big wild card IMO.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the sense that the front office is assuming that at all.
I think they just know that they don’t have the luxury of preparing for any and all possibilities. So they’ll fill the holes they know they have (backup catcher, bench, etc.) and maybe see what might be available at a decent price closer to ST. I think maybe you’re worrying a bit prematurely.
by holly96 on Dec 31, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
they're making one guy grow big sideburns just in case we have a dragon to slay
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no other player
can sport the mutton chops and slay dragons like Josh….:(
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair Enough...
I am typically a worrier.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious
what moves you really want to make. It’s easy to criticize lack of action, but offer your alternatives. The FA market this year is not that deep, and the affordable talent is coming off of injury.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said...
I am typically a worrier, so I think I am more just irrationally hoping the Rockies aren’t just hoping they improve because they are a year older and have a year of experience under their belt.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I don’t really have any solutions, and as I said above, am content to wait it out. I wouldn’t mind a Duke or a Wang type signing – but they both seem unrealistic, and as you said – replacing an if with an if. I’ve also accepted Clint Barmes as a starter at 2B. He is what he is at the plate, I can take that as long as his D stays the same, it is pretty valuable to a team like the Rockies who preach the ground ball out with Apodaca.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
However...
I wouldn’t mind seeing the Rockies kick the tires on Pedro Martinez…it doesn’t hurt to try.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be opposed to this
might be tough to convince Pedro to come to 5280, and maybe throw out of the Bullpen if Francis is back to his old self…just thinking out loud.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It could be the topper to his career
and if he does well here, then maybe at long last, the Rockies and CORZ FELD, will get some credit. :)
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Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
if you could convince Pedro that pitching at altitude is a challenge that can be another notch on his belt might make it worthwhile for him.
Pitching out of the ’pen might be tough to convince him, but who knows…he has a great spring and maybe its someone else who has to pitch out of the pen.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get that sense from the FO at all
I think given the direction they’ve gone or tried to go this winter, they know what’s what when it comes to their expectations of players next season. First of all, keep in mind the team was competing at a 100+ win level from June on last year, even a 10% step back (and this is where most projections I’ve seen have us) puts us at a 90 win pace which given the backwards steps of LA puts us as the division frontrunners. I’d like it if we could be the Yankees, but we’re quite a way ahead of any other team at our salary level with the exception of the Rays when it comes to the 2010 projections.
For pitchers and picking up those lost Marquis wins, Cook should rebound and get more than he did in 2009. Hammel, even though he’s likely to pitch worse next season should actually pick up more W’s just because he had a sort of flukishly low season in that regard given the quality of work he put in. JDLR’s been a quality pitcher for a year and a half now (he has a 4.01 ERA and a 23-12 record since the 2008 ASB, it’s probably at the point we should stop worrying about meltdowns so much and accept that he’s a decent pitcher). If Jimenez goes belly up we’re all screwed anyway, so no sense worrying about him, and finally Francis, I don’t know what exactly your expectations for him are, but even at around a 4.50 ERA, 11 wins should still be more than doable given our offense as long as he can pitch the entire year.
That last bit is a worry with any pitcher, not just Francis, and why the team is looking for legit quality starting depth. I’d expect to see a lot of movement on this as we go through January and approach pitcher and catcher report days. In a down economy it’s not surprising to see teams wait out for bargains and players wait out for better deals, but they’ll both move together when it gets to crunch time.
As for CarGo, if anybody’s thinking he’s Beltran (besides his agent), it would be the thought that he’s early Royals Beltran, when .247/.309/.366 seasons were still possible. I think most semi-informed fans know that there are risks with a young player regardless of how special we think he is.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hammel, even though he’s likely to pitch worse next season should actually pick up more W’s just because he had a sort of flukishly low season in that regard given the quality of work he put in.
That’s what you get for getting consistently paired up against Cain/Santana/Kershaw/Lincecum/Josh Johnson/Haren, all in the second half
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I thik of Hammel getting no run support I always think of that 1-0 Dodger game in LA for some reason
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the 8.0 IP CG
that was so disappointing
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the one
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough...
and I do think that JDLR is a good pitcher, I think I am gun shy due to the offseason after the ’07 season.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the parallels are certainly there
but like RG said, the talent level on the roster and in the farm is much higher now than it was in 2008.
There’s a reason every season is different and so exciting. We have no idea what will happen. But I do believe the FO has prepared for most contingencies.
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like
the idea of standing pat after a successful season either, I just am not a huge fan of what’s out there. Like giving Placido Polanco a multi-year deal, just to do something, anything….
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no problem
There’s definitely a downside, and we’re far from post season locks, I just think we’re in a considerably better place than we were post 2007, especially with the rotation and center field. In retrospect, second base is a lot better off too, but I was on the Nix bandwagon, if not driving it back in the day. So yeah, I definitely miss stuff and overstate our position from time to time.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
we all do…I try and take off the purple shaded glasses so I can see reality better…sometimes I go overboard, but I am slightly worried.
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by Sandlotkid8 on Dec 31, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the difference is that the risky/borderline/marginal players you cite...
….really aren’t that good.
No one knows if Duchscherer is healthy (i.e., he’s sorta in the Francis camp, sorta); Capps really isn’t that good, he simply throws hard. We already have that.
I would like to see us make a play, perhaps, for O-Dawg, but he aged a lot last season. I agree we haven’t been exactly aggressive in trying to get better, but I also don’t see a lot of options out there that would actually improve the team. So why spend $$$ just for the sake of spending $$$? It’s really a week FA class this year, once you get past Lackey (who is only an ace by default in this FA class, he’s really a #2), Bay (who is very flawed), and Holliday.
Doing something just for the sake of looking like you’re doing something, is sometimes worse than doing nothing at all.
If we decline next season, it’s not going to be because of a lack of offseason activity, but rather because of a combination of a) lack of improvement in Stewart/CDI, and b) regression by Hammel/CarGo/Dex.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This sums up how I feel.
Here’s to a better 2010 than 2009 for you and your wife!
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!!!
We’re both very anxious to see this year end. Very.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
God I am too
for far less significant reasons than you, but still.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Boras will be triumphant once again
Cards and Holliday working on a deal between 6-8 years, $100M+
Orioles being used to raise the price.
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:21 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
BOOOOOOOOOO
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently they asked for $170M from the Red Sox
and the Red Sox FO laughed in their face and walked away.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
source this
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was early December and the team needed to move on its offseason plans. Matt Holliday had been its first choice for left field, but he already had countered a five-year, $85 million offer from the Sox with one for twice the money.
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wat
screw you matt [holliday] and your little dog too
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for specifying which matt
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thasright
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no
the malevolence is still directed at your dog.
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"Prince" will destroy you!
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite
“Prince” will party like it’s 1999 2009
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With only one Matt on the roster at the moment, we need you to step up and learn how to play 1B and 3B for the Rockies.
Either that or make Matt Miller the fifth outfielder.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. I forgot Matt Daley.
Two Matts. Still not enough. We definitely need more Jasons though. Anyone here named Jason?
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a buddy named Jason who's a Rockies fan
Maybe I should get him to come on here.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You need to get him on the Rockies
We’ve lost so many Jasons over the past year, and now that Jasons Marquis, Giambi, Grilli, and Hirsh are gone, Hammel is all by his lonesome.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is sad :(
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's going inot the military so it's too late
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have always patterned myself after Q
Middle infielder with a good glove and a terrible bat.
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by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If this is true my respect for him is plummeting
I always knew it was all about the money but this is nuts.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This should become standard procedure
Boras needs a lesson in humility.
Foxes are naughties
by crazedjohn on Dec 31, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They'll laugh and then do it.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
40-man question
When the Olivo deal is finalized that will leave us with 2 spots on the 40-man. At what point can we put Buchholz back on the DL to open up another roster spot?
The current two spots I believe will be used for a couple of infield/bench guys. What happens if we want to sign an additional pitcher or two? Will they have to be NRI?
Thanks – jl
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by jlot10 on Dec 31, 2009 10:41 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Well when we trade Alan Johnson and Matt Miller for Chase Utley
that’ll be one of the 2 available spots
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the FanShot on this, I was hoping one of our transaction gurus could answer it because I'm not sure, myself
Where are Jabbs and WolfMarauder when you need them?
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wonderland
and…uh…marauding?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Through the looking glass actually
Get your Lewis Carroll right.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't wonderland the destination of through the looking glass as well
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
But I haven’t read it in so long.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was getting out of wonderland that was her destination..
I think….
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Usually players aren't placed on the 60 Day DL until the roster is finalized before opening day.
I’m not sure if it is actually forbidden to do so, but it would make sense if it were. Otherwise, a team could throw their entire team on the disabled list after the Rule 5 Draft and sign anybody they wanted, and sort out the roster later. Both Buchholz and Francis were out of commission near the beginning of ST, but neither was placed on the DL until April 5th.
That said, I believe that Olivo (or another backup C should something fall through) and a backup corner infielder are really the only players that are looking to be added to the 40 man roster pre-ST. That gives us at least one free spot to use for an NRI if we need to, which really should be enough unless like more than two players injure themselves during the Spring. The rest of our roster is pretty much decided already.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
1000th Post!
I was going to make a Fanpost to commemorate my 1000th comment, but then it was just about the outfield next year, and I didn’t feel that I was adding enough interesting new ideas to make it worth everyone’s while. So my 1000th comment is absolutely nothing special. BAMBO!
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 11:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
plagiarized
Purple Row: Take this personally
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
And I wasn’t even around when RG made the original comment. I’m that guy.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
at long as you don't wear the band's shirt to the band's concert
No one likes that guy
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh, I thought of that movie a while ago
Went to see Social Distortion, and a guy got out of his car wearing a Social D t-shirt, and he had Social D playing on his stereo, and it was the new one. That’s like the trifecta of not cool.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Dec 31, 2009 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That may be the worst example I have ever heard
you would think a Social Distortion fan would have some awareness.
Tool fans are just ironic that way, proudly labeling themselves tools in public.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm probably old skool here
but wearing a band’s T-Shirt to their show, seems no different than wearing a player’s jersey or team colors to a game…
why is it different?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give 'er a shot
Because when you go to a sporting event, you’re actively rooting for a particular team over another. When you go to a concert, you’re just there to enjoy the music. That you like the artist is a given. The only reason you would actively display your preference for the band would be to say that you’re a bigger fan than someone else or that you’ve liked the band for longer than everyone else.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 12:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mainly it's just a joke from the movie PCU
“You’re wearing the t shirt of the band you’re going to see? Don’t be that guy.”
But also, if you look at rocking like it’s supposed to be a statement of non-conformance (might not be a word), then any show of solidarity would be kind of uncool.
"I clearly miscalculated how popular it would be to show Calvin urinating on a Ford logo"--Bill Watterson
by frightenedinmate#2 on Dec 31, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm well thanks for the insight..
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically wearing a band t-shirt to a concert
is a way to show how “scene” you are. The goal is to wear some obscure band from “that one band’s tour in ’94, before they were big”. But if you wear the shirt of the band you are going to see? Uh…it’s just lame. It shows you have no originality, that you are a sheep, that you have no individual voice…
Actually, this is all rather stupid. Maybe I will stop actively mocking people that choose to be “that guy”
Probably not.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason
I picture his car being an IROC. And I’m so oblivious of modern music that I couldn’t even venture to guess what genre Social Distortion performs in. So I have no basis for this.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 12:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Or wear your own band's shirt onstage while you're playing
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the worst.
seriously.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no longer kids
Tomorrow marks the fourth decade I will be alive during. I just graduated college, so this thought depresses me. Maybe I should just use that fact as a point for wisdom
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 12:19 PM MST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wow. You just made me feel old.
5th decade alive during for me.
by holly96 on Dec 31, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
6th decade alive for me
And I’m now on my 9th president…
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa. Fourth for me too.
Hadn;t thought about that until now.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way though
People born in 1990 will still only be on their third nine years from now
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
my twin brothers in that boat
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 5:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? Should we have been wishing you a happy birthday today?
I’ve always thought it could be interesting for 12/31 and 1/1 twins and figured it could happen in theory, but never suspected I’d actually know any, even in virtual life. Of course, you could just be joking, at which point never mind this whole thing.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed an "are" in that post
My twin brothers ARE in that boat. As in, I have two separate brothers who are twins with each other. But they certainly weren’t close to splitting the year or decades. They were born at noon in July 90
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 2, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know where else to post this
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 31, 2009 1:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It's like a nicer Milton Bradley
who doesn’t bat as well
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 4:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that wasn't even a fair fight
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 1:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the mountain west looks like world beaters yet again
I’m very bummed that tcu didn’t earn a bcs conference opponent. it would be hard to ignore an undefeated bowl season including a bcs win over Florida or Georgia tech
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 1:55 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly why neither they nore Boise State got one
Seriously, I think this coming year is the year an antitrust lawsuit gets filed against the BCS.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cincy deserved the Sugar Bowl and Florida too, I think, though
Too many worthy teams this year.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Sugar Bowl got first choice of teams
Since their auto-bid team was in the national championship game. Since the game is in Louisiana, and they love the SEC, there was a roughly 1000% chance that they would select Florida.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like
seeing the 2 undefeated teams play each other, at least one of them will emerge undefeated, and if Texas can have a miracle, the Fiesta Bowl winner may be the only one…
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind it if it weren't also the two non-AQ teams.
I’ve seen some people call it the Separate But Equal Bowl. That pretty much nails it for me. Whoever wins will still get the “Yeah, but you just beat another non-BCS team” BS.
by holly96 on Dec 31, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, here's the interesting part
If both BSU and TCU had gotten to play traditional BCS schools, and both happened to lose, that would have put some pretty fair ammo in the holsters of those who think the current system is fine.
As such, the fact that neither gets to play a traditional BCS powerhouse indicates that the powers that be are actually worried that one, or both, would actually win their games, and blow their entire argument out of the water.
This probably has more to do with why they’re playing each other than anything else. The BCS was actually scared that these teams would have won.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Boise wasn't going to be chosen by anyone but the Fiesta Bowl
so they would have been left out after two straight undefeated seasons. Disgraceful.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's
not actually the BCS group that decides who plays in what bowls, the actual bowl committee’s get to choose who will play in each bowl, with a draft of sorts. The committee’s then select the teams most likely to put butts in the seats, so the way it worked out, geographically, team fan travel, etc. really makes sense – I don’t buy the conspiracy theory one bit. Florida was going to be picked by the bowl with the first pick because their fanbase travels so well.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But they also consult with the tv networks.
And I just can’t imagine that more people nationwide want to see TCU/Boise St. in a rematch than want to see either or both of those teams playing one of the BCS teams. It’s almost as if they wanted a bowl with two non-AQ teams so they could point to the low ratings later and say, “See, nobody wants to watch these teams!” and then use that as ammo in future years.
And I’m not really a conspiracy theorist. I just think if the system were really truly fair, there would be better match-ups than what we got and teams like Boise St. or especially TCU would have a better shot to prove they belong. And I think this could have been achieved with the current system, but for whatever reason, it didn’t.
by holly96 on Dec 31, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately they have a point
the Oklahoma-Boise State Fiesta Bowl was one of the lowest rated BCS games ever.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and the greatest football every played...
that no one watched….
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched
And it was awesome.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched
And it was beyond awesome. Greatest game ever, exceeded perhaps by Texas Vince Young beating USC.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
mmmhhmmmm
Longhorn fan here, my favorite game ever.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine, too!
I never went to UT, but did grow up in Austin, so I’m a Horns fan…
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Born in Austin
stayed a Longhorn fan even though I went to CU.
What are you doing for the NC game? We should get together for the debacle.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How did you not get beat up? :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
especially after the 70-3 Big 12 Championship?
Good question…
CU has always been my #2 team though
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"CU has always been my #2 team though"
I’m sorry.
LOL
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
especially when I had to watch Chris Simms throw away our title hopes
to a hot, but not great CU team. Man that was a rough day.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it's a weeknight, so it means....
….going home to take care of Jenn after work, so that I can relieve her mom, who’s exhausted after doing all the daytime care.
But if you feel like driving up to Longmont next Thursday, you’re welcome to spectate at casa del Mondo.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just might do that
it would be better than watching it with my A&M buddy
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You admit to having A&M buddies?
You’re a brave man. ;-)
Yeah, I’ll bounce it off Jenn tonight. Oh yeah, we got our CDs in, too. If we make it happen, I’ll pass one along to you.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
just the one
and yeah, let me know. We can also work out details for filming your release party. I saw your posters up at the Larimer last week
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet, I thought the ones with red text were hard to read
Nice irony that it features one of my favorite bass players ever.
I don’t design them, I have no skills. All I do is hang them up, like the hangman with his noose. But in this case, a roll of tape.
I’ll drop you a line by the end of the weekend, if not sooner, to let you know if Thursday’s gonna work. Hell, you can even drag RMN’s hangdog non-Longhorns fan’s ass up there.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Boise State was better. Those endgame shenanigans? Unreal. They were not only the big underdogs, they also won with style to spare.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
National Championship vs Fiesta Bowl
much bigger stakes. And one man beat the proclaimed “Best Team Evar” on a 4th down run as time expired
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no disputing the stakes
but no way was that a more entertaining crazy and exciting game…IMO :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a huge Texas fan
but there was one game I couldn’t stop talking about at work the next day (Boise)
Good point
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Even with the stakes I would rank it #1
It was that good
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was funny
my sister called me in Cali and said OMG are you watching this game, and I said yes…we both laughed because what were the chances that two sisters were watching a bowl game without the menfolk around.
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In just the last three minutes of that game
There was an 80 yard drive for a touchdown, three attempts at a two point conversion to tie the game (penalties), an interception run back for a touchdown seemingly competeing a 17 point second half comeback, and the most perfect hook and lateral of all time on forth and 18 with with 7 seconds left for a touchdown to force overtime.
It almost doesn’t seem possible.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to watch that game again
it’s on itunes?
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Spilly Slam game and that one in two days
Thats a lot of action
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like a defibrillator
was on hand…lol
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I finished the SpillySlam game yesterday
and wanted to watch another game right after, but I just couldn’t. Nothing else compared this year.
If I had #163 on me, maybe…
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nope....and
everyone I know that watches football, pro and college, believe that is the greatest football game of all time, hands down.
(and we are talking a LOT of football fans)….lol
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG, watch it for FREE!
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
watching the last 2 minutes right now
that interception is soooo devastating
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay
best game ever. you sold me
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!!!
now, can I sell you on keeping Brad Hawpe?
no….okay
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Brad to death
if only we were an AL team…
nevermind
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
boo...:(
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
IT WAS A JOKE
grumblegrumblegrumble
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No one likes jokes
On this forum. Keep ’em to yourself, hippie.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
no one likes puns on this forum :)
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
NL we take seriously...
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
4th and 18
18 Seconds left in the 4th quarter, Boise down 7. Uh oh…
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
HOOK AND LATERAL
What? Touchdown? What?
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TD Adrian Peterson
BSU looks overmatched.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh, 4th down in OT
Boise’s fighting for every yard
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What an ending
Yeah, still get goosebumps from that last play. I love that game. Thanks for letting me know it was on Hulu.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
boy no kidding
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But you have to consider
That the only reason that Boise wasn’t in the title game was BCS shenanigans (that’s the second time I’ve used that word today. Peculiar). They were undefeated.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
shenanigans...another great word
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And a marriage proposal to boot!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Could she possibly have said no after that?
I mean she really didn’t have a choice
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and they are still married!! yay!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I turned it off with
1:30 to go – went to the grocery store. I will never be doing that again. Ever. With any game.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I threw a party for that game
I was very excited for it, just like I am for TCU-Boise this year.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
*ever played
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
You could live for 100 years and never see another football game (college or pro) as good as that.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but that's only a point for the TV networks
It is an unlawful restraint of trade for an organization such as the BCS to say “Boise State is ineligible to play for the national championship because their TV ratings would suck”.
Imagine if the Arizona Cardinals won the NFC, and were barred from playing the Super Bowl because the Eagles would have garnered better ratings.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The entire FBS system is in place for that reason $$$
every other division of college football has a playoff. If the entire sport is designed to be as profitable as possible, how can we expect there to be even a modicum of fairness in its postseason?
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They would have played in the national championship
If they had been ranked #1 or 2, regardless of potential TV ratings. That’s an automatic game. They also would have had an auto bid if TCU hadn’t been ranked above them. The only way they would have been shut out is by a bowl’s selection committee.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
but there is no way for Boise to be ranked #1 or #2 at the end of the season
strength of schedule/computer factor.
It is impossible for them to play for the NC, as Utah last year can attest.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that was the only bcs game i watched the entirety of that year
Did catch the end of the title game, however
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 31, 2009 5:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This.
The actual bowl committees don’t do anything in a vacuum.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree
but their primary job is to sell tickets, and secondary is to appease Fox.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is true, however...
….businesses acting in concert to freeze competitors out of an industry constitutes violations of antitrust laws all over the books.
The problem isn’t the bowls trying to sell tickets; the problem is when the bowls, acting in concert with the TV networks (trying to build ratings), acting in concert with the BCS (protecting the lion’s share of their golden goose bowl payouts) all conspire to shut out schools from even being able to play for the championship.
The only reason the BCS is still in existence is that the non-BCS schools haven’t mounted a legal campaign. There is nothing not unlawfully monopolistic about the current BCS bowl setup.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
love the mountain west
they deserve so much better
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 31, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And the MWC has been kicking ass in bowl records vs. other conferences these days
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Navy
Good day for the service academies.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Dec 31, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wild and Wacky Baseball Stats from 09
This is a fun read….only in baseball, and why I love this game so much :)
Happy New Year!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=4785295
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
no mention of Embree's victory without throwing a pitch. Too bad.
I always look forward to this article.
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh that's a good point!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason it wasn't in there...
…that event, while very rare, isn’t nearly as unheard of as what made the cut this year.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
“• THAT’S A SWITCH: It took 134 years for Arizona’s Felipe Lopez to become the first player in history to switch-hit homers from both sides of the plate on Opening Day. It took one inning, in the same game, for Tony Clark to become the second.”
I don’t recall realizing this when it happened.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This article is awesome
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 2:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you not read Jayson Stark's articles like this?
I love ‘em. It’s what makes baseball fun. Not the events themselves (although they’re great also), but the chronicling thereof. I think that baseball writers have the best sense of humor among sports writers.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope you're not putting Woody Paige in this category, then
Of course, he hardly counts as a sportswriter
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 3:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
definitely not a baseball writer
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fail
definitely not abaseballwriter
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no you had it right the first time
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Still blows me away
that he gets paid to write and talk. Just goes to show anyone can be anything, if they know the right people.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 3:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I still get my change at neurosurgery???
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
See Scott Hastings.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
by squalene203 on Dec 31, 2009 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying all baseball writers are
Just most. Like Rob Neyer, Keith Law, Jayson Stark, etc.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note
Go OU…tempted to go down the street and watch 2nd half at Jacksons with Redhawk.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
go OU...alright if I must...being Big 12 and all....
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I usually root for the Pac-10
but I picked OU in my pick-em pool, everyone else picked Stanford. Pac-10 is overrated this year, with the exception of Oregon.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate the Sooners
Go academics-first school!
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All I can do is root for others
Between the fact I got transcripts from eight schools…and the fact that the school I ended up graduating from (Chapman University) is a school whose campus I never stepped foot on, and the only school I attended as a regular campus student (Texas State, back when it was Southwest Texas State)….well, you get my drift.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
San Marcos?
LOVE tubing down the river in the summer time. Nothing is more relaxing
ROCKEFELLER!!!
by Muzia on Dec 31, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, San Marcos...this was back in '83, though
Back when Harris Hall, the NON-air conditioned dorm, was still standing. Took my 1.9 GPA (highest on my floor) and joined the Air Force before the next school year.
Took me five years before I went back to school, and then years of full semester load night coursework before anyone would give me a piece of paper.
Oddly enough, I was something like a 3.97 student the rest of the way.
But being a 17 year old at one of the biggest party schools in the country at that time, living on the dorm floor with the athletic trainers, was not a recipe for academic success. ;-)
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 2:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
See ya everyone
I might not come back until next decade :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 31, 2009 3:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Happy New Year!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 3:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Be safe, avoid the DUI checkpoints!
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 3:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I have a random piece of Rockies trivia to ask, if anyone cares to participate.
Who can name the two most common last names of players who have played at least one MLB game in a Rockies uniform? In addition, who can name each player to have both names? Bonus points if you do it without looking at Wikipedia like I did. lol
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 3:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Although if you count Rene Gonzales
Then there are 4.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 4:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
but does it count if you spell it with a Z or an S on the end?
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith?
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Dec 31, 2009 3:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With no research whatsoever....
…I’ll guess Young and Uribe
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 3:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Young is one of them.
Now… who can name all the Youngs?
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
EY, EY Jr., and was thinking Jason Young may have gotten a game in?
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 3:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I thought Jason would be the tough one
So I cheated and looked it up…that scrub Gerald Young played in our first season.
In January 1995, Young was charged with cocaine possession when Houston Police Department officers found a crack pipe with cocaine residue in the vehicle that he was driving. He would never play major league baseball again.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 4:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As a baseball player, he was Willy Taveras years before Taveras was Willy Taveras
His speed was his one primary tool and because of it he looked like a pretty promising young player for the Astros in the late 80’s.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
From his subsequent life...
…when he had speed, it was probably because he was on speed.
/rimshot
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 4:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This I have no idea
My original guess would be last names Smith and Young, but I don’t know
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 31, 2009 3:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you...that is my guess
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I already mentioned Smith wasn't one.
Young is one of them.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We've had quite a few Joneses, right?
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be number two.
Now, who can name all the Youngs and Joneses? lol
by WolfMarauder on Dec 31, 2009 3:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there were 2 Bobby Joneses
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oop, forgot, only one played for the Rockies.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There's that one Jones who was a closer.
I’m blanking on his first name.
by holly96 on Dec 31, 2009 4:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Jones
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought of him
But forgot that he pitched for us
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 4:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, there's a long list of interesting names who played for us for short periods
Just from a historical standpoint:
Howard Johnson
Sandy Alomar, Jr.
Turk Wendell
Tony Womack
Bret Saberhagen
Steve Finley
Ron Gant
All guys who had long careers, some with significant notoriety/awards, but who all had shortish Rockies stays, and easy to forget.
In fact, other than Saberhagen and Finley, I had to look the others up.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, had a major brain fart on that one
I kept saying “c’mon idiooooot, you know him, he won back-to-back MVPs with the Braves!” and I just couldn’t spit out Murphy.
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by Mondogarage on Dec 31, 2009 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris and Terry Jones are the others
But I had to cheat and use Baseball Reference.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Goodwin's middle name was also Jones
But WM did specify last names.
by Rox Girl on Dec 31, 2009 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OU beat Stanford...that's implausible, but it happened
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 4:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
Pac-10 is overrated this year…Oregon State looked terrible…UCLA beat a mediocre Temple team…Cal didn’t look that great against Utah…USC beat a bad BC team, and they’re still USC…I’m worried about Oregon, but really want them to beat Ohio State – as I realllllyyy hate the Big 10.
by Hizilla on Dec 31, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, fellow Rowbots
I’m outta here for the evening. I wish you all a safe, and fun New Year’s Eve!!!!
May 2010 bring you peace, prosperity, joy and love!!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
Dear Rockies-Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster season! Best turnaround in MLB history to become NL Wild Card Champs.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! You were a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 31, 2009 6:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Have a good night Cat
I’m outta here too. I have to say that I’m glad I found this forum this year. It’s been fun.
Nobody drink and drive tonight. See you in 2010, the year the Rockies win it all.
by controlled_slide on Dec 31, 2009 7:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy New Year's everybody!!
Don’t get too drunk O_O Lol jk
Remember old folks, I'm just 17 years old =]
by GoRockies!! on Dec 31, 2009 7:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
This stupid year
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Dec 31, 2009 9:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
You just graduated
I would consider that a good end to the year that (as of this comment) still has 16 minutes.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 31, 2009 11:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and that is the positive thing I'm trying to take out of this year
a lot went wrong for me this year, and I’m quite pleased to put it behind me.
Purple Row: Take this personally
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockiesmagicnumber
by Andrew Martin on Jan 1, 2010 3:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry man, I know how that feels
08 was my version
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 2, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy 2010, everyone
Hehehehe. Jan 01, 2010 at the bottom!
by WolfMarauder on Jan 1, 2010 12:18 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
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