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Winter Meetings Day 3: WAR and rumors of WAR

If you all missed it, yesterday's Winter Meetings thread was absolutely ridiculous.

Rumors were milled. Topics were lost. Games were played. Pandas were exploited.

And the Stove was Hot.

As Rox Girl points out in today's RockPile, there was a big 'ol trade yesterday.

The Yankees gave: P Ian Kennedy, OF Austin Jackson, P Phil Coke.

The Yankees got: CF Curtis Granderson

The Tigers gave: P Edwin Jackson, CF Curtis Granderson

The Tigers got: P Max Scherzer, P Daniel Schlereth, OF Austin Jackson, P Phil Coke

The Diamondbacks gave: P Max Scherzer, P Daniel Schlereth

The Diamondbacks got: hosed GOOD VALUE COMPLETELY SCREWED (dammit Rox Girl give me back my keybelsrajri rahahfgghghhhhh) P Edwin Jackson, P Ian Kennedy.

The Tigers are planning on making Austin Jackson their opening day CF to replace Granderson.

 

And there's been a bunch of news today already. Andy Pettitte is making news by signing a 1-year, $11.75M contract with the Yankees.

Speaking of the Yankees, they're still pushing for Roy Halladay, with Jesus Montero being the centerpiece of the deal. They must really be banking on Joe Mauer becoming a FA, while Toronto sees Montero as being a 1B primarily. I've heard this isn't a terrible assessment, but it means that the Yankees will have to send along Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain.

Apparently the Mets are thinking that dealing 2B Luis Castillo is suddenly unlikely to be moved. They're also looking at John Lackey.

On the other side of the country, the Mariners and Felix Hernandez seem to be miles apart in contract extension. Felix wants 6 years, $100M, and the M's want 4 years, 2 options, and less than half of that figure. Future Red Sox #2 FELIX HERNANDEZ WOOOOOO!

Meanwhile, in terms of stuff relevant to us, the Rockies and Yorvit Torrealba are talking turkey on a 2 year deal. I haven't seen this finalized yet.

 

All your rumors can go here.

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Jon Heyman just called me

Says that Omar is cracking open the wallet, looking to make a play on Lackey, Holliday, or Bay, and want to sign 1 of the big 3.

Also they’re looking back into Bengie Molina. To pinch run.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Hey I think I already saw this someplace else...

Crap now I have to keep up on two threads till everyone realizes and switches…

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With the Mets it may not be

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Sox have 2 or 3 teams lined up to trade Mike Lowell to

assuming they take back a similar contract

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:06 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

I want a Winter Meetings where we can focus on the Pirates and Royals and Twins. I’m so tired of the Red Sox and Yankees.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey another point we can agree on!! yay!

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey there's been plenty of Mets news too

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But

How can you ever get tired of them? They’re the trainwreck the league likes to watch every year.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite trainwreck is the Cubs

Although the Mets are cating up though

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see the Mets and Cubs trains collide

I guess that would be them trying to outbid one another for a player they both want

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be an agent'd dream

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Millwood 5yr/$120M

Oh yeah? I raise you 19yrs/ONE BILLION DOLLARS

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I raise you lifetime contract and a blank check

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I see your blank check

and raise you The Moon. You can own The Moon.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I raise you the sun, Jupiter, and Saturn

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I raise you the Milky Way

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I raise you a black hole that could swallow Alpha Centauri

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I raise you a supernova

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

nono

that’d be Roy Halladay and Howard Edwards.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I raise

you the supermassive one at the center of the galaxy.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:54 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

this makes me laugh every time

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

THIS ISNT MHH

But it works, even over here

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

On second thought

this wins. It beats Supermassive Black Holes

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the best comment ever.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 7:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Does your client get to keep everything it sucks up

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The n-dimensional multiverse?

I thought we couldn’t agree to a contract and he is going back to college..

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Alan Johnson?

Fold.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I do hate the Cubs

Problem is that I hate the Cubs more for their fanbase than anything else so their off-season moves leave me with a feeling of apathy. The fans are going to be unbelievably arrogant and intolerable whether they win or not so it doesn’t matter to me what they do in the off-season.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Mets news is more interesting, if only for comic relief :)

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So true

Omar is baseball’s best comedian

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We talked a little about the Pirates on Monday

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Team building interests me more than the actual games.

I like seeing the challenges of building up a team by making good choices and trying to overcome a culture of losing by forging ahead with bold decisions and radical changes. The Red Sox and Yankees just throw money at every facet of the organization and anytime they make a mistake it results in more money being spent. I realize this is a crude view of how they do things but they don’t have the same intrigue as lower market teams do. It’s like the difference between playing Madden Franchise Mode with the Salary Cap on and Salary Cap off. “Make tough decisions on players…or spend more money.” There’s no fun in the Yankee Way.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If you're looking for team building than Pittsburgh is the wrong place

I completely agree that there’s not fun in the Yankee way though

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know Pittsburgh does it wrong

but that’s part of what’s interesting. You need to see the Pirates of the world to appreciate the Twins.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

To me the Yankees make me appreciate the Twins

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

*shrugs*

To each their own, eh? I tend to ignore the Yankees altogether if I can. The Blue Jays are much more interesting.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Blue Jays?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rays are the most interesting to me in the AL East

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

orioles, 2011. you watch.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They will be crushed by the two gorillas in that division

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I play with

the salary cap off.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And that is why you live in NY :-)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn right. I'm, a damnyankee.

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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey RMN, your note about pandas being exploited

PETA, and the ASPCA are gonna be all over that :)

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:19 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't the PETA people

want to pursue action for what they called a “bee massacre” in the Astros/Pads game this year?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol...I hadn't heard that story...but

I wouldn’t be surprised. Mind you, I’m not against PETA or the ASPCA….:) but that would be a bit much…

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

As long as the

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

don’t hurt RMN I’m fine. I like his writing and analysis too much.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Didn’t they just trade away an expensive OF? Why would they trade for a new one?

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not just sign a reasonably priced CF

instead of one owed $18.5M over the next two years. The Dodgers aren’t going to eat that much of hiscontract. Detroit, you confuse me.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

like Mike Cameron?

Austin Jackson will be playing CF, Pierre in LF I presume

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Marlins deny

but I would too if I still wanted to make a trade happen

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The hell?

Combine this with the idea of rejecting Feliz and Smoak for Josh Johnson and they’ve certainly been crazy to follow the last couple days.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Even so

The crazy rumor mongering is fascinating. The Mets, up until today, were being patient and the Marlins were out of their damn minds. Love you Winter Meetings <3

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Better be wrong

That is just stupid.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that as well, Fish are denying they will non-tender according to Ken Rosenthal

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So says one team

Marlins deny deny deny

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently the Marlins swim in that river in Egypt

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they non-tender because of his beef with HanRam?

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Could be

But I was unaware of any beer involved.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Beef

You can see where my mind is at.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At least it's not on panda porn

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

surreal is the word

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well there may have been beer involved on Uggla's part, for all we know

and beef and beer do go together well :)

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great

Now I’m thinking of ribeyes and Guiness

Hot stove leads to panda porn

by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

mmm

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

and garlic mashed potatoes :)

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

C/UT Robinson Chirinos of the Cubs

is getting Rule 5 buzz due to his impressive Venezuelan appearance this winter according to Phil Rogers. He bats right handed and can play multiple positions. In many ways he seems made for the Rockies current needs, but like I said in the Rockpile thread, it’s pretty unlikely they draft somebody tomorrow. If he’s available at their pick, Chirinos might be worth at least a Spring Training look.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Are you also

ruling out the minor-league phase?

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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if what I heard includes the minor league phase...

I’ll just assume they meant the major league portion.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I would do it if he is available.

I couldn’t find any scouting reports on his ability to field? Any clues?

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rosenthal reports Wolf agrees to Brewers deal

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Man got paid

3yr/ just under $30M

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good news for Molina

The Mets now have more money to waste on him

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Omar breaths a sigh of relief

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL....that is awesome...brilliant

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:46 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Now I am just reminded

how mediocre this song is compared to their earlier catalog. Yes, the kazoos reminded me of this fact.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I see your Metallica and raise you John Williams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYAPr6UKhs&feature=fvw

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cheater!

You just went to Related Videos!

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:49 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not cheating...

that’s using my resources properly :P

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Like the Twins

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My god

You just never know what a innocent comment will spawn here.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sort of amazed how much faith fans put in their pitching prospects sometimes

Both TBLA and MCC are seeing developments that are pushing inexperienced arms into important major league roles as positives for next season. The front offices for both teams do not seem nearly as happy about this. Really if these pitchers were that close to ready, I doubt both their teams would have traded for starting help late last season. Anyway, just my two cents worth, I think the situation as it currently stands favors the Rockies.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is Clayton Kershaw one of those inexperienced arms?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

not anymore

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

I see the problem now. Their rotation is Kershaw, Billingsley, Kurada, and a combination of those other guys. That could be vulnarble

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I concur

our pitching really busted some heads last year, and we won’t be relying on a rookie to eat a significant number of innings – well, unless we consider the 5 hole to be the significant number of innings.

Do we sign a FA journeyman to fill the #5 as insurance for Francis/Chacin/Whoever?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

One reason I think our rotation seems to be underrated

besides the whole Coors Field/small market thing is that nobody outside of Rockies fans seem to realize how good Aaron Cook is

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

our system makes him look very good

that said, he plays well to our system, so we have a circular “he’s good” thing going on here

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about the duke connections

who else should we target, in your opinion?

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, after that

Teams tend to stockpile a lot of pitchers going into Spring, if it were me, given the success the Rockies have had with JDLR and Hammel, I would follow the course of the last two seasons and just sign some interesting reclamation NRI’s and wait out the end of ST roster crunch. If the team can’t get the quality it wants at an affordable rate, the waiver market might be the next best option.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think he's too expensive.

I think the club has an idea of wanting to spend less than $5 million for this.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

figured as much

apparently there are bidding wars over him, being led by the Brewers – well, there were before they locked up Wolf anyhow

(man it’ll be great to have Wolf and Penny in another division)

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Solid idea

Cheap, low risk, versatile. Could have a good year.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I could work with this

It is another solid pitcher who can eat innings, and keep the ball in the park.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

worth following...

What’s the Jon Garland story? I like Bedard but he’ll also cost too much.

by Since1993 on Dec 9, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Paul Greco is reporting a Lobby Rumor

Justin Verlander may be available.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

for us to get him? no kidding

the good thing is I don’t think the Yankees or Red Sox have enough left that they’d be willing to sacrifice to land him.

Boston would have to START with Kelly and Buchholz

The Yankees just flat out don’t have it, unless they’re redangling Montero toward Detroit

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tigers seem to be trading everyone

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Miguel Cabrera rumors were debunked.

I have a feeling these will be somewhat meaningless as well.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I could see them doing it

If the price is right, they can’t afford to pay him what he’ll command for much longer

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought there was no chance of Granderson or Jackson moving.

I’d put the probability very very low. But the Tigers seem determined to shed as much payroll as possible. Probably nothing to the rumor though.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No, you can't

He is the one to build around.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I certainly wouldn't

but their bad contracts (willis, etc) plus the economic climate in Detroit makes it worthwhile to at least float his name out to see what bites they get.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson is nowhere near Verlander

I’m just saying it wouldn’t be that outrageous for them to float his name. If they can get back something great. I doubt they would, but I wouldn’t be shocked for them to toss his name out

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think if they're offered returns as absurd as Verlander demands

they might consider just firesaling.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t firesaling as they are having a firesale

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t firesaling bleeding as they are having a firesale massive amount of blood loss

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t firesaling bleeding as they are having a firesale massive amount of blood loss much as the city of Detroit

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this....sadly, this

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But its not a firesale

It’s the AL Central.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

O_O

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well that measured about an 8.2 on the richter scale

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Buster Olney says the Rockies and Street are far apart in contract negotiations

And that the team would consider trading him at the deadline.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I sort of realized that as I was posting.

Stupid delayed Twitter sharks trying to get bites.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It still makes me sad

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that's too bad

well here’s to hoping that Weathers and Buchholz come up firing bullets

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And Daley and Bets

I think we have a good pen.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I concur

I’m just saying if we’re all about a “NEED A 9TH INNING CLOSER” like I fully expect us to be, I hope Weathers still wants it.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Watching a team without a "9TH INNING CLOSER"

is not going to be good for my blood pressure

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

likewise

but before the 2009 season I was advocating a committee

Street did the job better than expected, though.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to be the 2003 Red Sox

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

Closers are overrated due to the variance in performance. All you really need is a good reliever there.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree for the regular season but you neeeeeeeeeeeeeed a shutdown guy in the playoffs

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We had that shutdown guy in the playoffs

And you know how that ended up. Again, overrated.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

okay one of those games would have been different

had the proper call been made when the ball actually hit Utley. And if the proper out call at first would have been made.

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True

Doesn’t mean Street didn’t pitch well. Unless you’re Mariano Rivera, there are no shutdown closers every year

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed, Street didn't pitch well in game 4...

but I would still take my chances with Street over Morales as the closer.

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Doesn’t mean he’s worth $30mil or that Street is perfect. Or even that we would win a significantly less number of games with Morales on the mound, depending on what is received in the trade

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree Here

Right now Street is better then Morales, but is he better enough looking into the future to justify 30 million. And going beyond this is he 30 million better then Morales, or Weathers or Corpas. I don’t feel comfortable paying that kind of money for a closer.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he was the same guy after the injury

Look at what Mariano Rivera did for the Yankees this year, look at what Brad Lidge did for the Phils last year. Remember every team that lost this postseason had a meltdown by their closer in the series they lost. (Street game 4, Papelbon game 3, Nathan game 2, Franklin game 2, Fuentes game 2 and almost game 5, Broxton game 5, and Lidge game 4.)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you about his injury

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you are exactly correct.

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 9, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

couldn't be any worse than having Brian Fuentes scare the bejabbers out of you could it?

People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby

by pedalpusher on Dec 9, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Must have missed this news if its old.

So if we traded Street, would we move Betancourt to the 9th inning?

Or leave him in the setup role and let Morales/Corpas take another crack at closing?

by Shoemaker on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I really can't see Betancourt as a closer

He has an established reputation as a classic 8th inning guy, but never a closer. I’m not sure he could handle it

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

see:

Hawkins, LaTroy; Dotel, Octavio

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it is supposed to be at the deadline (he will be our opening day closer regardless)

So, I assume they will spend the first half evaluating the options.

by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Morales seems to be getting groomed for the role

I would guess that if all goes well, Reynolds and Flores would be the primary setup LHP’s then.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ugggh

all I can see is nailbiting OMG saves all the time

He’s too much of a headcase, in my humble opinion, and if we’re going to do something with him, get him in the freaking rotation, stretch him out as Francis insurance

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He'll get better.

At worst, he’s not going to be any worse than Fuentes, and we got a lot out of Brian.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you don't think so?

the 2nd week of his closing scared the hell out of me, it looked almost Chaconian

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

haha very fair.

I guess I’ve seen him as a headcase for the past 2 years

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's because he has been

I think your concern is valid. He’s a bit volatile. But positive volatility is textbook closer

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you should copyright "chaconian"

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He is being stretched out in whatever league he is in now

but O’Dowd seemed pretty frank Monday in saying Morales will be in the bullpen

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, but that would be more heart attack inducing than

Fuentes….

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt

Greg has been holding out on us if he’s a Valiquette style

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Morales I don't mind there

in the future, and Reynolds might do well but I am not a fan of Flores

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT? that is news to me....

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

k thanks

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Biggest Concerns

By reading the post seems like the things we are worried about the most next year is our bench, and maybe a few starters like All-Star Brad Hawpe, and Clint Barmes and CI.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:36 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

that should be posts not post

I’m not referring to DP just post on PR

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

that’s about right. We also need another starting pitcher

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

We need another starter in case we need another starter

Hot stove leads to panda porn

by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I didn't say we did.

They’re pleased with his rehab. Until they’re not, I see no reason to go around chasing starting pitchers. That’s all.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

oh I know

it wasn’t meant to be an attack

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, I know.

I didn’t interpret it as such. Just making sure my position was clear :)

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

but

you can NEVER have too much starting pitching…

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I find Wimberly and Aneury very ironic

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the problem with taking a rule 5 pick

The team’s roster is pretty well set going into next year, We don’t have extra space in the bullpen to hide someone and we don’t have a team where someone’s unprotected minor leaguer is better then any of our current options starting or even really on the bench like San Deigo did last year.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, Cabrera emerged as their prize acquisition of the season.

David Patton’s time on the Cubs might be a better comparison of stringing along a Rule 5 pick.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I gave two examples

Patton is the stringing along, whereas Cabrera was better then anyone they had despite him not being on our 40-man roster. With the depth of the team I have trouble seeing someone who’s not on the 40-man roster of anther team being good enough to be on our 25-man

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He seems pretty optimistic about Francis

If he is nothing else but equal to Marquis we stand for an improved lineup as Hammels, JLDR, and most of all Jimenez hopefully improve

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

“Hammels”. Jason Hammel and Cole Hamels’ lovechild?

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Except - and everyone keeps forgetting this

We had FOUR starting pitchers have career years last season. Why does everyone just assume they’ll do so again?

by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

why assume they won't?

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Though career years could just be progression years leading to even greater, especially for someone like Jimenez.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Ubaldo is a rising star and actually probably hasn’t even hit his ceiling yet, Aaron Cook has been great when not injured for several years now (and we still have great infield defense to go with his groundballs), and JDLR seemed to have found something when he came here.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

because Ubaldo and Hammel are young still

DLR has made massive strides

Cookie is somewhat of a known commodity.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeap :)

Talk about a scary looking pitcher…

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny that

We trade two of our minor league player last year for two guys teams didn’t want. One plays really well and the other just got “sold” to a Japanese team. The two minor league players are both getting Rule5 attention. Kind of cool.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers interested in Augie Ojeda

According to Steve Gilbert. He’s not quite in the category of Cody Ross, Pedro Feliz or James Loney where he just seems to play so much better against the Rockies than he does against anybody else, but he’s close. I wouldn’t mind not seeing him next season.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind

having him either.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh crumb...

Craig Baker is getting attention in the Rule 5 draft too. I’d actually regret losing him more than Johnston.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Reverse order of the standings in 2009,

but the Nationals “traded” their top pick to the Yankees in exchange for Bruney. It actually works out that the Nats still pick the player, but the Yankees tell them who to pick and get him as a PTBNL.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

that makes sense. I saw somewhere that the Yanks had the first pick and I had forgotten that the Nats gave it to them.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Last I heard, it was kind of a convoluted scenario where they get Uggla

play him at second, move Sanchez to third and Sandoval to first. The thought being that Uggla would be worse at third than he is at second and not really valuable at first or something. Whatever it is, this move might weaken their infield defense enough to offset most of the offensive gain.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this is the correct answer

Sandoval needs to not be a 3B. I mean, he wasn’t bad like BADDDDD but he was hardly a solid 3B.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That would

almost be a wash with what they have now. Uggla supplies power and a higher OBP but a lower quality glove and a higher chance to strike out.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rockies and Yorvit close to 2 year deal

seems like they are a lot

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This according to Buster Olney...

Since it’s new, I imagine it means that it’s a bit closer than it was last night and we should get something more concrete soon.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

i like Buster so i am going to assume he is going to be right

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

but if it's buster olney

they might not have talked in 4 days

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of chatter from the Mets on this,

including this tweet from beat writer Bart Hubbuch that says he’s “on the verge” of signing with the Rockies. Mets fans see this as a weakening of Bengie Molina’s leverage for some reason, even though we’ve seen no indication of interest in Molina from the Rockies.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

reccin dis

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A source is reporting a rumor that the NY Yankees, in an apparent long-term cost savings move, have purchased murdered Scott Boras for a reported $100 million dollars.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And

there was much rejoicing around baseball. “The Yankees finally did something worth while.”

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hehe

I care aboout the AL but I know what you mean

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

DId Ray do something notable when we last played the Orioles in 2007?

Or was he part of another important trade? I recognize his name.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked up his Wiki page.

It’s the Mother’s Day Massacre I remember his name from.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I remember seeing highlights from that game. I didn't realize that O's fans called it that,

but it makes sense. He has really dropped off a cliff since his closing days.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That game was the manager's

Guthrie never should have been taken out of that game

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

manager's *fault*

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if he did anything natable against us

but I thought he was really good before his Tommy John Surgery. He was not impressive at all this year

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the O's

but the division they are in I don’t see this helping much.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the Rangers sold high

because that’s some fool’s gold there.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers getting a pitcher

with a 7+ ERA, 5 BB/9, 8 K/9 and 1.7 HR/9 last year

The strikeouts aren’t bad but otherwise meh

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers denying the closeitude

haven’t signed off yet

apparently they remember the mother’s day massacre as well

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

we got Betancourt so where the Hawk goes doesn’t matter, as long as it’s not in the NL West

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you read the report

where he got tired of sitting around the house waiting for news, so he hopped on a plane and showed up at the meetings?

Hot stove leads to panda porn

by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

HAHA! I always liked him. Especially after he helped the Phillies with the tarp.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they were probably all in the clubhouse before they realized what was happening.

And LaTroy was probably coming from the bullpen, so he was behind the rest. At least, that’s what I assume.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That is exactly what happened...

… though it could be argued that they should have come back out and joined their opponents in helping.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this makes some sense,

since it’s been covered and the Rockies have egg on the face, I bet it’s the last time that it happens.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he's from Gary, IN

that’s a pretty poor area, lot of crime.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I didn't

have school so I could do that. Sitting at this computer between classes is boring waiting for updates.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For me this is a step up from past years

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

but I would rather be playing baseball right now (temperature just broke 10°F for the first time in 3 days)

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

I don’t know what’s worse. The single digit temps you guys have or the heavy mixture of sleet snow and freezing rain I have in the RI

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

having lived in both the frigid wastelands of Northwest Colorado and the snowy/sleety Northeast,

I can tell you that I’d rather have the snow and ice than the day after day of bitter cold.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately, having also lived in Southern California,

I can tell you that there’s a much better winter weather option available.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

SoCal cold sucks.

It’s the bitter, inside your bones kind as opposed to the nippy, pleasing skin cold.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that is true re the cold....

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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Add NorCal to that.

It’s been getting down into the 30s here for about a week now, and that is COLD here. And in that our office building apparently can’t figure out how to heat appropriately, and I’ve been cold for days.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lots of hot cocoa!

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a hot cocoa fan.

I wish we had hot cider. That I would take.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well that too...I often just revert to hot water with lemon and honey

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That nippy, pleasing skin cold turns nasty pretty fast,

especially when it goes on for several weeks and you have stretches of days below the zero line. And the SoCal bone deep cold doesn’t hit as bad as it does in Buffalo/Cleveland, which I haven’t lived in, but I’ve seen enough winter days in to safely say they are my least desirable winter locales.

Sure, I suppose Hawaii or somewhere down on the Baja coast are better still, but I’ve never been.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't agree.

50 is my ideal temperature, and I’d much rather it be 0 than 100.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

then why are you complaining about SoCal?

It actually sounds like we might agree. It’s funny how everybody thinks their weather’s the pits.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Picky, picky, picky :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

50!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

You’re heating bills must be dreamy

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i read that as furry...doh

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So did I

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he’s powered by fury furry.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ding Ding Ding

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It could be like here in Montana

-22 before windchill when I got up this morning. They were predicting windchill at -39

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OK you win

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I lol'd when I read that bone-chilling cold part about Socal

They don’t know bonechilling, I forgot my gloves when I went home for lunch and it took about 3 seconds and I didn’t need them anymore

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know bone-chilling cold before I cam eto SoCal.

I’d lived in Denver my whole life, where the cold isn’t bone chilling.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna have to feel it to believe it

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, you're in Rhode Island, so it might be different.

Do you have humidity there? If so, you already know it. Dry cold like you get in Colorado is far different than cold in places with humidity.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We always have heavy humidity (All year round)

The only time we don’t is if a huge front passes through and even then it’s back in a day or too. (Southern New England really sticks out into the Atlantic so we’re always effected by it.) I think I would like Colorado though because my favorite weather days are those precious few after a front moves through.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

too two

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with WolfMaurader

on this point. I grew up in Colorado and go back frequent especially at the holidays. 30 here is colder than 30 there. Can’t speak for Montana but I’m thinking its similar to Colorado in the cold factor?

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the way the cold feels. I’d rather be in 5 degree weather in CO than 40 degree weather in LA

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely!!!

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If this is the case then I'm bringing

my cold, wet, snowy, windy, rainy, and humid case for RI back to the table

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you exaggerate there...

I can understand equal temp to equal temp , that CO cold is more bearable, but right around that single digit mark, it’s just cold and it doesn’t matter if it’s dry. And the great thing about SoCal is that you actually warm up during the day. At least on the Western Slope, that’s not always the case.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and if you've never experienced below 0 weather it's different

You breath through your nose and everything inside freezes definitely a new experience for some people

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I experience -20 in Minneapolis

for a week. I hope to never have to experience that again. That was miserable…..

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not exaggerating in the slightest, I'm afraid.

Remember, I thrive in the cold. But only the Colorado kind of cold. They’re completely different to me, like water and wine. They might as well be entirely different terms.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this point Wolf

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a friend in LA, who would walk around in shorts and

flip flops in 40 degree weather. I knew a person in Colorado who lost three toes due to frostbite in single digit temps. I understand your perception of things, but in real life there are some very real differences.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah and I've been on the Outer banks in 40-50 degree weather it was cold

but a jacket and jeans was enough even when on the beach. Here that doesn’t even come close to cutting it in winter time

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I do it around 40

We’re close

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

As usual, I am speaking entriely subjectively.

I don’t mean to imply anything otherwise.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know nothing personal

Though I do have to admit that after your body acclimates to the -20 when it does warm up to 40 it’s short-sleeve football time

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it's because you're near the ocean

Humidity does strange things. I know that raining and 35 feel much colder than it just being lets day 20

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the point was more about humidity.

At least, that’s how it is here. It took me a couple years to figure out why 50 degrees here felt colder than 50 degrees in Colorado or Utah (where I went to school). The humidity makes the cold go right through you.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

dingdingding....

we have a winner!!

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why I don't think I could handle cold in the midwest

or in the east. The dry cold in Colorado is perfectly fine with me.

by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Though I do have to admit

it’s funny having to tell all the easterner and west coast that they better bring lotion with them anytime they come here and drink lots of water. Otherwise expect bloody noses and the such

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

where in Montana are you?

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
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by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

South Central

a little place that’s been in the news a lot called Hardin

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

my nephew lives in a tiny little place called

Pittsburg….

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

though if you want to know really cold go up on the High-line

Around wolfpoint, that is stupid cold routinely has coldest temps in the lower 48 all year not counting windchill which is worse then anything when the wind kick up to 30-40mph

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

RMN is not going to be happy when he sees all of this :-)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

we’re we supposed to stay on Rockies related topics?

Hawpe
to trade or not to trade

Catcher
sign someone and hope that it really doesn’t matter because CI becomes everything we want him to be.

Ok covered next topic :)

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No

He just doesn’t like it when sees 100 new comments and only 10 are about baseball.

Watch what happens when he comes back.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol I know

was just being sarcastic :)

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

RMN seems to have stopped trying.

He was as off topic as anyone last night :D

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides it off-season

and no one is really expecting anything discussion worthy happening to the Rockies at these meetings.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking we were talking about

whether it would more miserable to play baseball in -30 in Montana or 30 in SoCal? Did I miss something? :)

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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Montana hands down

Swinging a bat and hitting something when it’s that cold would be so painful

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's get Manny out there then

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just holding

the baseball or bat in this weather is terrible. I’ve done it in 30° here and I think it would be worse in the negatives.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You can feel it in your hands

when the bat hits anthing

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it

hard to even feel the bat, let alone feel the bat when it hits something

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing about off topic is that it's so much fun

when you are in the middle of it but not as much fun reading it later because the moment’s gone.

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They were predicting windchill Brad Hawpe’s UZR at -39

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

grrrrr

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well played!

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That one was below the belt

(but well played)

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For me?

South-Central little place called Hardin

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been through there many a time.

I drive 90 to go see family in Bozeville, and I lived the first two years of my life in Great Falls.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

We’ve made our fair share of new lately in the last year I’m surprised how many people know of us now

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Miami anyone?

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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I can vouch for that.....

San Diego being about the most perfect weather anywhere…

although at times I do miss a noticeable season change, although I guess leaves falling off trees counts and rainy season :)

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think last year it rained cats and dogs during the Holiday bowl

are you attending?

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep I'll be there

I could live without rain.

by Teekalong on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have baseball too but I'm just happy I have something to get me through the winter

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

2 year deal

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

2 years, $7.5M

looks like that time with the ’Stros did him well

funny, I remember another team signing him to a contract that didn’t work out so well…

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Crasnick confirms that Kevin Correia has been told he will be non-tendered.

here. I imagine he might get a more certain starting opportunity with another team, but maybe our contender status will lure him.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

I’d be shocked if there aren’t multiple teams calling him right now.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we

start talking to his agent now or do we have to wait until it is official?

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We can talk to them any time.

Though we wouldn’t be able to actually acquire him until he is non-tendered, obviously. Unless a team were to trade.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Poor guy. He did nothing if not decent stuff for them last year.

I wouldn’t mind him at all as a long reliever/Francis emergency replacement.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at his BBR page

and taking into account he pitched at PETCO I would like to have him as a 5 starter, especially if Francis isn’t completely healthy yet.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Would be excellent insurance

if he could be signed cheaply. Plenty of teams could use a solid, cheap, bottom of the rotation guy like him, so he may not wind up being that cheap. He’s not someone I’d invest much in at least.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

AWW POOR RED SOX

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Fresh in, San Diego is trading their weather

to the Billings Mustangs for a PTBNL (Hey it’s about the only thing left to be traded)

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OKAY, NOW THEY HAVE GONE TO FAR!!!!!!!

/looks for pitchfork and torch

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they'll throw in Heath bell

If we give them a Heath bar and sing them Jingle Bells

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they would say no....

but who would we want in return?
we don’t need any Padre really….

I used to wonder if Atty would land with the Pads but that was before last year

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was actually offering Brad to SDCat

I am assuming she controls the weather :)

by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Now if you are offering Brad to ME that's a whole other story

lol and would that I had such power!!!

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

It’s a very elegant way of saying it. I like it.

by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

more or less..yes

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What would you do with Brad SD?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I take the 5th

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The plot thickens

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Better buy gloves, coats, and hats SDcat

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

San Diego...layer city friends

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I have my winter gear. I haul it out for my travels to Colorado:) I'm prepared

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You could make a fortune then

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

New trade rumor

San Diego trades the beach to Hardin, MT for the Two Rivers Prison. If you want to know more about that just google it.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Joel Pineiro has been told he's the #2 starter on the market behind Lackey

so he’s looking for $10M+/year, upwards of Wolf

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

When the Mets If someone gives give it to him, I’ll explode.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

When the Mets If someone gives give it to him, I’ll explode shrug my shoulders.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he should consider choosing his advisers more carefully.

If he’s dead set on that, he’s bound to be disappointed as the difference between him and Marquis isn’t that great.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Take that Jim Bowden

Rafael Rojas says that in an interview, Torrealba told him “his first interest was always coming back with the Rockies”.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

At the very least, I'm glad he appreciates his time with us.

He’s a loyal guy. My only major problem with a Torrealba return is his defense.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how to read that

playing the conversation in my head, it seems to leave a "….but, " at the end of that sentence

I mean, we offered him a fair contract, for a backup/platoon

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't resist that 5.89 ERA huh

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he's a pitcher that's better than his ERA makes him appear.

But given that it’s Ed Wade and the ‘Stros, I wouldn’t be surprised if they paid too much for him.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

relief pitcher's era

:rolleyes:

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a very talented pitcher that had injury concerns last season

I’d be interersted

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

Maybe I just saw him on all the wrong days. I remeber closely watching the 9th inning of a game in April against the Phillies where Josh Johnson was pitching a shutout and he came with a 3-0 lead in the 9th and gave up seven runs in one of the worst attempts to close a game I have ever seen. I’ve seen him here and there throughout the season too and it always seems like he’s giving up runs. Perhaps you’re right since all three of you seem to agree but I don’t think I’ve seen him have a clean inning.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers second base possibilities...

Ronnie Belliard listed first, Jamey Carroll possible according to Dylan Hernandez. This seems a rather drab list.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone please take notice of this and remember it for the rest of the season

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It's weird how different positions go through cycles like that

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently Andy Pettitte told the Yankees he was coming back over Thxgvn weekend

what a toolbox, making my morning full of the freaking Yankees.

Hope got in my eyes

by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Did he tell the Yankees he was using PED's too

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't forgive very easily

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe where his career waswhen we took a flyer on him nearly 7 years ago

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

AL west wars continue

It seems to be everyone against the Anglels

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems that way

I wish the Rays, O’s, and Blue Jays would have the same feelings about the teams atop their division

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

/smiles to myself

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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You don't want to slander a trade chip

Way to build up the rep

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well, what's wrong with that?

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

if Hawpe bats fifth

where does Smith bat?

Hot stove leads to panda porn

by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL pinch hitterz

Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot

by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he's not Mr. Late Night for nothing...

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS!

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I probably don't have as much of an issue with it as most,

but I do know that it would be a controversial topic here.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

there needs to be a "somewhere else" at the end of that sentence

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

/scowls at RIRF

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Should I bring out the cute dog?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

nah we're cool...I know where you stand on the Hawpe issue

but felt a loyalty scowl was in order :)

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually not in the "we have to trade him" crowd

but I would be listening very keenly to offers

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Though not because of what he isn’t simply because I like the other 3 starting and we’d get the most value for him. Case of dealing from depth deal the one that nets the best return.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I mean if having Hawpe, Dex, Cargo, and Mr. Late Night is the worst case scenario than that’s pretty good.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

this I agree with..

I’m just not convinced that Mr. Late Night is ready for everyday starting….

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You and me both

but I agree he has earned the chance.

by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Give him a watch set to eastern time

Then he will think the start of every game is late night

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

that's interesting

I might have him 6th at the highest

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Random tweet just came up:

#Rockies mgr. Jim Tracy on Brad #Hawpe who faded down stretch … “If we had to play a game tomorrow, he’d be hitting 5th.”

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I predicted 5.1

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You're looking good

Although didn’t someone try the price is right strategy on you?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't that you? 5.11 I think was the bid

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

5.11 was the bid though

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

oh okay...sorry

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No not a problem

I wish I could take credit for such an evil yet genius move :-)

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That was me.

BWAHHAHAHA

Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.

I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.

by RdRnnr on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ahhhh....grrrrr

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoever's right wins a car

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well if that's the case

$5.21 million with $500,000 in incentives for plate appearances and runners caught stealing (5).

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

don't tease me...

could I win a job instead?

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

uh

not a good one

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You know whats funny, the most serious arguments here on PR

are about two problems that other teams would give their eyeteeth to have, most likely.

Could we have dreamt of this 3 years ago?

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

What?

the weather and panda porn?

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol no....

the great catcher debate and well in my mind trading Hawpe or not

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Henson reporting Rockies open to re-signing Marquis.

The “”http://twitter.com/stevehenson333/statuses/6508114021" >at a reduced number" part probably goes without saying.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I just don't see the lower price working here

Not with the lack of SP on the market and GM’s like Omar running around that 15 wins is too tempting for some GM

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If Marquis were open to re-signing at a reduced number

would he not have accepted arb? My guess is signing with the Rockies is last resort.

Hot stove leads to panda porn

by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Weird non-news

This just in: Rockies are open to trading for Halladay…if no one else wants him and the price is low…

Marquis would have to have some bad luck and bad negotiating by his agent to wind up with the Rockies “at a reduced number” in 2010. I probably wouldn’t complain if that happened though.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he say something about not wanting to pitch

in his hometown because of the pressure? or am I confusing that with someone else?

Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!

Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!

by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

okay, how about this

Breaking News: Rockies willing to sign free agent Matt Holliday…for $5M/yr.

The quote was just funny to me. Sounds mainly like someone asked DOD if he’d even consider making an offer to Marquis this off-season. Yes, the Rockies would be happy to have him back, just not at the salary he stands to make on the market.

by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Giants want Nick Johnson, D-Backs wanted Hawkins

but neither were willing to offer more than a one-year deal.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Colorado (the state) maybe beginning to enjoy a tiny

economic advantage over AZ and CA? At least when you look at unemployment rates Colorado is doing far better than the other two, at 6.6% compared to 9.4% and 12.3%…And Phoenix and San Diego were like ground zero for the housing bubble.

by moomacher on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point

If LA does have major payroll cuts for 2011, the Rockies will have close to the highest payroll in the division.

/Gulp

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think a worst case scenario still would have the Dodgers ahead of the Rockies in payroll.

It could be closer, however, and given our better payroll efficiency over the last few years that would spell trouble for them.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And if our attdance goes up

which it could, doesn’t that give us a few million more to work with?

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With Betancourt going to arb...

is our RP shopping pretty much done?

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Street, Betancourt, Corpas, Morales, Flores, Belisle, and Daley would be our bullpen as it stands now. It could use improvement, but all the slots are filled with somebody. Buchholz returns midseason and will allow some shifting.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

FA wise

who’s out there that’s an improvement?

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Plenty, but who's out there that's an improvement and can be fit into the budget easily? That's a little trickier.

I don’t tend to speculate about players who aren’t on the team yet, just ones they specifically show interest in. Since all bullpen talks have died down after the Betancourt return, as of now, that’s my pen, but should they start bringing up new names, we can see about whether they’d be a good fit or not.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm down with this pen

assuming everyone is healthy and end-year Belisle was real, I’m on board. Certainly I’d rather a lights-out LOOGY over Flores, but you can’t have it all. Having Buck in the wings is nice too.

by Teekalong on Dec 9, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rockies have been impressed by his workouts,

and rehab, so it’s not that surprising. JDLR still worries the team a bit, it seems. I’m really interested that he mentioned Smith along with Deduno and Rogers, but not Chacin. I wonder if I’m reading too much into that.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Hoping that he’s right about Jeff, was probably the first big Rockies prospect I remember following through his quick ascension.

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think Francis has a lot of upside but I’’m using the “No expectations, No disappointments” theory with him.

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah though if he can go back to what he was before...

It’s going to be a great year to be a Rockies fan. Best pitching in NL West :)

by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hands down

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

why does it matter so much?

The matchups get messed up quickly, and I think it’s likely he will miss starts regardless, so I doubt you’re putting extra strain on his arm. I think worrying about the order is much ado about something of little benefit.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It probably is.

But the #2 is still probably more likely to face more difficulty than the #4, even after the rotations get knocked out of line. Even if it only makes a small difference, I’d rather not have Francis in that position. But hey, they know better than I do.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The pitching rotation is arbitrary

The only thing is the match-ups. I remember back a few years when our 4/5 pitcher was getting run support against other aces and winning. This indicates to me that if we score runs it doesn’t matter who’s pitching as long as they throw strikes.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The matchups are indirectly dictated by the rotation.

If you toss someone in the #2 spot, they’re still more likely to draw tougher opposition than the #4 spot. No, it’s not going to happen that way all the time, but it will to a degree that prevents it from being arbitrary. If it were arbitrary, I assume you’d be okay with putting Jason Hammel in the #2 spot?

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

the offense has to score runs either way.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

the match-ups do help a teams chances against a more difficult pitcher though.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

I agree with you but if the pitcher throws strikes and locates well he can match-up just as well against anyone

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

In theory

Wouldn’t the best way to go be 5, 1, 2, 3, 4. You throw away the first game but increase your chance of winning in the other 80%

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be like

decreasing your chances by 20% the first game and increasing the other four by 5%

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If pitchers were perfectly separated into skill level,

yes. But this isn’t the case. Some teams #4s are going to be stronger than other teams’ #3’s, so the advantage of playing it like this can make a bigger impact depending on who is in your rotation.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well at least it's not detrimental

I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase

by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tango at the Book blog showed that it's not all that relevant a few years ago.

You get this benefit for something like two weeks, and even then, if you’re #4 has a much greater advantage over your opponent’s #4 than your opponent’s #2 has over your #2, as would be the case here, it’s at worst neutral to a true order of rotational skill. The upside of the study was that it’s far more important who is in your rotation than what order they pitch in.

by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that why the team from ny does what they do?

get the best pitchers to throw them in any order they want.

JFK

by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, of course who is in your rotation is more important.

But I still don’t see anybody acknowledging that the order they pitch in can affect the matchups in a way that makes them more equal. I’m not trying to say that a good rotation can only operate in a specific order. However, the #2 starter is going to match up with more #2s than the #4. I’d rather have Aaron Cook in these games than Jeff Francis. Whatever difference that is, I’d prefer to have it than to just shrug it off as not important.

by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, it seems Jason Hammel drew aces more often than anyone

I think someone actually ran the numbers on that and proved it last year

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs