Winter Meetings Day 3: WAR and rumors of WAR
If you all missed it, yesterday's Winter Meetings thread was absolutely ridiculous.
Rumors were milled. Topics were lost. Games were played. Pandas were exploited.
And the Stove was Hot.
As Rox Girl points out in today's RockPile, there was a big 'ol trade yesterday.
The Yankees gave: P Ian Kennedy, OF Austin Jackson, P Phil Coke.
The Yankees got: CF Curtis Granderson
The Tigers gave: P Edwin Jackson, CF Curtis Granderson
The Tigers got: P Max Scherzer, P Daniel Schlereth, OF Austin Jackson, P Phil Coke
The Diamondbacks gave: P Max Scherzer, P Daniel Schlereth
The Diamondbacks got: hosed GOOD VALUE COMPLETELY SCREWED (dammit Rox Girl give me back my keybelsrajri rahahfgghghhhhh) P Edwin Jackson, P Ian Kennedy.
The Tigers are planning on making Austin Jackson their opening day CF to replace Granderson.
And there's been a bunch of news today already. Andy Pettitte is making news by signing a 1-year, $11.75M contract with the Yankees.
Speaking of the Yankees, they're still pushing for Roy Halladay, with Jesus Montero being the centerpiece of the deal. They must really be banking on Joe Mauer becoming a FA, while Toronto sees Montero as being a 1B primarily. I've heard this isn't a terrible assessment, but it means that the Yankees will have to send along Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain.
Apparently the Mets are thinking that dealing 2B Luis Castillo is suddenly unlikely to be moved. They're also looking at John Lackey.
On the other side of the country, the Mariners and Felix Hernandez seem to be miles apart in contract extension. Felix wants 6 years, $100M, and the M's want 4 years, 2 options, and less than half of that figure. Future Red Sox #2 FELIX HERNANDEZ WOOOOOO!
Meanwhile, in terms of stuff relevant to us, the Rockies and Yorvit Torrealba are talking turkey on a 2 year deal. I haven't seen this finalized yet.
All your rumors can go here.
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Jon Heyman just called me
Says that Omar is cracking open the wallet, looking to make a play on Lackey, Holliday, or Bay, and want to sign 1 of the big 3.
Also they’re looking back into Bengie Molina. To pinch run.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hey I think I already saw this someplace else...
Crap now I have to keep up on two threads till everyone realizes and switches…
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the pinch running part was a joke.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With the Mets it may not be
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox have 2 or 3 teams lined up to trade Mike Lowell to
assuming they take back a similar contract
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:06 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
I want a Winter Meetings where we can focus on the Pirates and Royals and Twins. I’m so tired of the Red Sox and Yankees.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey another point we can agree on!! yay!
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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey there's been plenty of Mets news too
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But
How can you ever get tired of them? They’re the trainwreck the league likes to watch every year.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite trainwreck is the Cubs
Although the Mets are cating up though
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Mets trainwreck went full steam ahead past the Cubbies trainwreck
and then crashed even more spectacularly.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see the Mets and Cubs trains collide
I guess that would be them trying to outbid one another for a player they both want
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be an agent'd dream
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Millwood 5yr/$120M
Oh yeah? I raise you 19yrs/ONE BILLION DOLLARS
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
I raise you lifetime contract and a blank check
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your blank check
and raise you The Moon. You can own The Moon.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you the sun, Jupiter, and Saturn
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you Alpha Centauri
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you the Milky Way
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What would Kevin Millwood need with the Milky Way?
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't have everything
where would you put it?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's Kevin Millwood!
He doesn’t have to answer that!
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you a black hole that could swallow Alpha Centauri
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you a supernova
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nono
that’d be Roy Halladay and Howard Edwards.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise
you the supermassive one at the center of the galaxy.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me laugh every time
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS ISNT MHH
But it works, even over here
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
On second thought
this wins. It beats Supermassive Black Holes
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the best comment ever.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 7:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Does your client get to keep everything it sucks up
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I raise you the n-dimensional multiverse incorporating all possible universes at all possible times and places
And Alan Johnson.
by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't trade our future ace
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The n-dimensional multiverse?
I thought we couldn’t agree to a contract and he is going back to college..
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Alan Johnson?
Fold.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I do hate the Cubs
Problem is that I hate the Cubs more for their fanbase than anything else so their off-season moves leave me with a feeling of apathy. The fans are going to be unbelievably arrogant and intolerable whether they win or not so it doesn’t matter to me what they do in the off-season.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mets news is more interesting, if only for comic relief :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So true
Omar is baseball’s best comedian
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You WANT????!?!?!?! to focus on the PIRATES?!??!????!?!?!
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We talked a little about the Pirates on Monday
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Team building interests me more than the actual games.
I like seeing the challenges of building up a team by making good choices and trying to overcome a culture of losing by forging ahead with bold decisions and radical changes. The Red Sox and Yankees just throw money at every facet of the organization and anytime they make a mistake it results in more money being spent. I realize this is a crude view of how they do things but they don’t have the same intrigue as lower market teams do. It’s like the difference between playing Madden Franchise Mode with the Salary Cap on and Salary Cap off. “Make tough decisions on players…or spend more money.” There’s no fun in the Yankee Way.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're looking for team building than Pittsburgh is the wrong place
I completely agree that there’s not fun in the Yankee way though
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Pittsburgh does it wrong
but that’s part of what’s interesting. You need to see the Pirates of the world to appreciate the Twins.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To me the Yankees make me appreciate the Twins
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
*shrugs*
To each their own, eh? I tend to ignore the Yankees altogether if I can. The Blue Jays are much more interesting.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Blue Jays?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rays are the most interesting to me in the AL East
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
orioles, 2011. you watch.
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They will be crushed by the two gorillas in that division
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I play with
the salary cap off.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And that is why you live in NY :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn right. I'm, a damnyankee.
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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey RMN, your note about pandas being exploited
PETA, and the ASPCA are gonna be all over that :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:19 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the PETA people
want to pursue action for what they called a “bee massacre” in the Astros/Pads game this year?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol...I hadn't heard that story...but
I wouldn’t be surprised. Mind you, I’m not against PETA or the ASPCA….:) but that would be a bit much…
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals
don’t hurt RMN I’m fine. I like his writing and analysis too much.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers looking at Juan Pierre, wanting a third team to supply a pitcher for LA
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
hey the pope is dead alright
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Didn’t they just trade away an expensive OF? Why would they trade for a new one?
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering if they're going to make whoever take salary back as well or something
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not just sign a reasonably priced CF
instead of one owed $18.5M over the next two years. The Dodgers aren’t going to eat that much of hiscontract. Detroit, you confuse me.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Or just play the one you just traded for.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just read that they are planning on making Jackson their starter
This Pierre nonsense is such nonsense.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
like Mike Cameron?
Austin Jackson will be playing CF, Pierre in LF I presume
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Heard a rumor that the FIsh will non-tender Uggla if they can't trade him!?!?
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Marlins deny
but I would too if I still wanted to make a trade happen
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The hell?
Combine this with the idea of rejecting Feliz and Smoak for Josh Johnson and they’ve certainly been crazy to follow the last couple days.
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Even so
The crazy rumor mongering is fascinating. The Mets, up until today, were being patient and the Marlins were out of their damn minds. Love you Winter Meetings <3
A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that as well, Fish are denying they will non-tender according to Ken Rosenthal
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So says one team
Marlins deny deny deny
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the Marlins swim in that river in Egypt
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they non-tender because of his beef with HanRam?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Could be
But I was unaware of any beer involved.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Beef
You can see where my mind is at.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At least it's not on panda porn
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed that part yesterday
Thank god
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
surreal is the word
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well there may have been beer involved on Uggla's part, for all we know
and beef and beer do go together well :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Now I’m thinking of ribeyes and Guiness
Hot stove leads to panda porn
by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
don't do that to me
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
mmm
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and garlic mashed potatoes :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
C/UT Robinson Chirinos of the Cubs
is getting Rule 5 buzz due to his impressive Venezuelan appearance this winter according to Phil Rogers. He bats right handed and can play multiple positions. In many ways he seems made for the Rockies current needs, but like I said in the Rockpile thread, it’s pretty unlikely they draft somebody tomorrow. If he’s available at their pick, Chirinos might be worth at least a Spring Training look.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:28 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Are you also
ruling out the minor-league phase?
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by Russ Oates on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if what I heard includes the minor league phase...
I’ll just assume they meant the major league portion.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would do it if he is available.
I couldn’t find any scouting reports on his ability to field? Any clues?
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rosenthal reports Wolf agrees to Brewers deal
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:30 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good news for Molina
The Mets now have more money to waste on him
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There are still plenty of other pitchers on the market to overpay
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Omar breaths a sigh of relief
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC65ufGUvKM
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL....that is awesome...brilliant
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't terribly impressed with the guy's other stuff
but that was hilarious
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I am just reminded
how mediocre this song is compared to their earlier catalog. Yes, the kazoos reminded me of this fact.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your Metallica and raise you John Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYAPr6UKhs&feature=fvw
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not cheating...
that’s using my resources properly :P
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the Twins
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sort of amazed how much faith fans put in their pitching prospects sometimes
Both TBLA and MCC are seeing developments that are pushing inexperienced arms into important major league roles as positives for next season. The front offices for both teams do not seem nearly as happy about this. Really if these pitchers were that close to ready, I doubt both their teams would have traded for starting help late last season. Anyway, just my two cents worth, I think the situation as it currently stands favors the Rockies.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Is Clayton Kershaw one of those inexperienced arms?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
not anymore
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nope, this would be Elbert, Lindblom, Troncoso or McDonald
Kershaw’s entrenched already.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I see the problem now. Their rotation is Kershaw, Billingsley, Kurada, and a combination of those other guys. That could be vulnarble
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
our pitching really busted some heads last year, and we won’t be relying on a rookie to eat a significant number of innings – well, unless we consider the 5 hole to be the significant number of innings.
Do we sign a FA journeyman to fill the #5 as insurance for Francis/Chacin/Whoever?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
One reason I think our rotation seems to be underrated
besides the whole Coors Field/small market thing is that nobody outside of Rockies fans seem to realize how good Aaron Cook is
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:00 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
our system makes him look very good
that said, he plays well to our system, so we have a circular “he’s good” thing going on here
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's what the plan is, I think the Rockies underestimated the market for Duchscherer
but they’re looking for that type of player.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot about the duke connections
who else should we target, in your opinion?
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, after that
Teams tend to stockpile a lot of pitchers going into Spring, if it were me, given the success the Rockies have had with JDLR and Hammel, I would follow the course of the last two seasons and just sign some interesting reclamation NRI’s and wait out the end of ST roster crunch. If the team can’t get the quality it wants at an affordable rate, the waiver market might be the next best option.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
any interest in Doug Davis?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think he's too expensive.
I think the club has an idea of wanting to spend less than $5 million for this.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
figured as much
apparently there are bidding wars over him, being led by the Brewers – well, there were before they locked up Wolf anyhow
(man it’ll be great to have Wolf and Penny in another division)
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Correia now saying the Padres offers were low and he's likely to be non-tendered...
He might be a possibility.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Solid idea
Cheap, low risk, versatile. Could have a good year.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I could work with this
It is another solid pitcher who can eat innings, and keep the ball in the park.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
worth following...
What’s the Jon Garland story? I like Bedard but he’ll also cost too much.
by Since1993 on Dec 9, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Greco is reporting a Lobby Rumor
Justin Verlander may be available.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
for us to get him? no kidding
the good thing is I don’t think the Yankees or Red Sox have enough left that they’d be willing to sacrifice to land him.
Boston would have to START with Kelly and Buchholz
The Yankees just flat out don’t have it, unless they’re redangling Montero toward Detroit
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers seem to be trading everyone
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Miguel Cabrera rumors were debunked.
I have a feeling these will be somewhat meaningless as well.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the AL Central is such a freaking mess
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Mets Cubs and Pirates don't even play there
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I could see them doing it
If the price is right, they can’t afford to pay him what he’ll command for much longer
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet the above mentioned Ribeye and Guinness he is the Opening Day starter for the Tigers
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
not taking that bet
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was no chance of Granderson or Jackson moving.
I’d put the probability very very low. But the Tigers seem determined to shed as much payroll as possible. Probably nothing to the rumor though.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I felt they would both be moved before they became too expensive
But you can’t let Verlander go
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you can't
He is the one to build around.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly wouldn't
but their bad contracts (willis, etc) plus the economic climate in Detroit makes it worthwhile to at least float his name out to see what bites they get.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All they need to do is make it through 2010
It gets better after that.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone has 10 minutes, I highly recommend this article
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
God thats ugly
Almost as ugly as this
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/detroit-tigers_21.html
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
See, I find alot of hope in this article
enough to almost buy a couple of those $100 lots and farm them out myself.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG.
That has a surreal quality about it.
The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient.
by rockieprogress on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson is not Verlander
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by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:08 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson is nowhere near Verlander
I’m just saying it wouldn’t be that outrageous for them to float his name. If they can get back something great. I doubt they would, but I wouldn’t be shocked for them to toss his name out
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if they're offered returns as absurd as Verlander demands
they might consider just firesaling.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers continue to insist they aren't firesaling.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t firesaling as they are having a firesale
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t
firesalingbleeding as they are having afiresalemassive amount of blood loss
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers continue to insist they aren’t firesaling bleeding as they are having a firesale massive amount of blood loss much as the city of Detroit
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this....sadly, this
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But its not a firesale
It’s the AL Central.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Granderson was being fished.
It was possible.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and Jackson was blatantly on the block
Verlander was a lobby rumor
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
O_O
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that measured about an 8.2 on the richter scale
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hotfootblog is demanding confirmation from the mainstream beat
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney says the Rockies and Street are far apart in contract negotiations
And that the team would consider trading him at the deadline.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I sort of realized that as I was posting.
Stupid delayed Twitter sharks trying to get bites.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It still makes me sad
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's too bad
well here’s to hoping that Weathers and Buchholz come up firing bullets
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
depends on the role the team sees for Morales
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And Daley and Bets
I think we have a good pen.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
I’m just saying if we’re all about a “NEED A 9TH INNING CLOSER” like I fully expect us to be, I hope Weathers still wants it.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Watching a team without a "9TH INNING CLOSER"
is not going to be good for my blood pressure
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
likewise
but before the 2009 season I was advocating a committee
Street did the job better than expected, though.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to be the 2003 Red Sox
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we'd better draft an anusmouth then
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Closers are overrated due to the variance in performance. All you really need is a good reliever there.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree for the regular season but you neeeeeeeeeeeeeed a shutdown guy in the playoffs
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We had that shutdown guy in the playoffs
And you know how that ended up. Again, overrated.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:23 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay one of those games would have been different
had the proper call been made when the ball actually hit Utley. And if the proper out call at first would have been made.
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:29 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Doesn’t mean Street didn’t pitch well. Unless you’re Mariano Rivera, there are no shutdown closers every year
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, Street didn't pitch well in game 4...
but I would still take my chances with Street over Morales as the closer.
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Doesn’t mean he’s worth $30mil or that Street is perfect. Or even that we would win a significantly less number of games with Morales on the mound, depending on what is received in the trade
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree Here
Right now Street is better then Morales, but is he better enough looking into the future to justify 30 million. And going beyond this is he 30 million better then Morales, or Weathers or Corpas. I don’t feel comfortable paying that kind of money for a closer.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he was the same guy after the injury
Look at what Mariano Rivera did for the Yankees this year, look at what Brad Lidge did for the Phils last year. Remember every team that lost this postseason had a meltdown by their closer in the series they lost. (Street game 4, Papelbon game 3, Nathan game 2, Franklin game 2, Fuentes game 2 and almost game 5, Broxton game 5, and Lidge game 4.)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you about his injury
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you are exactly correct.
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
by pedalpusher on Dec 9, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't be any worse than having Brian Fuentes scare the bejabbers out of you could it?
People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Rogers Hornsby
by pedalpusher on Dec 9, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Must have missed this news if its old.
So if we traded Street, would we move Betancourt to the 9th inning?
Or leave him in the setup role and let Morales/Corpas take another crack at closing?
by Shoemaker on Dec 9, 2009 11:10 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I really can't see Betancourt as a closer
He has an established reputation as a classic 8th inning guy, but never a closer. I’m not sure he could handle it
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
see:
Hawkins, LaTroy; Dotel, Octavio
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it is supposed to be at the deadline (he will be our opening day closer regardless)
So, I assume they will spend the first half evaluating the options.
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Morales seems to be getting groomed for the role
I would guess that if all goes well, Reynolds and Flores would be the primary setup LHP’s then.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ugggh
all I can see is nailbiting OMG saves all the time
He’s too much of a headcase, in my humble opinion, and if we’re going to do something with him, get him in the freaking rotation, stretch him out as Francis insurance
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll get better.
At worst, he’s not going to be any worse than Fuentes, and we got a lot out of Brian.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you don't think so?
the 2nd week of his closing scared the hell out of me, it looked almost Chaconian
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Because one week of relief pitching can tell you so much...
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
haha very fair.
I guess I’ve seen him as a headcase for the past 2 years
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's because he has been
I think your concern is valid. He’s a bit volatile. But positive volatility is textbook closer
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you should copyright "chaconian"
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He is being stretched out in whatever league he is in now
but O’Dowd seemed pretty frank Monday in saying Morales will be in the bullpen
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
cool, thanks for the confo, I forgot that
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, but that would be more heart attack inducing than
Fuentes….
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt
Greg has been holding out on us if he’s a Valiquette style
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Morales I don't mind there
in the future, and Reynolds might do well but I am not a fan of Flores
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT? that is news to me....
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was first reported on the 2nd (same exact wording)
by mkorpal on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
k thanks
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 11:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest Concerns
By reading the post seems like the things we are worried about the most next year is our bench, and maybe a few starters like All-Star Brad Hawpe, and Clint Barmes and CI.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:36 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
that should be posts not post
I’m not referring to DP just post on PR
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
that’s about right. We also need another starting pitcher
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Until Francis regresses, I don't make starting pitching a priority.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we don't have any proof that Francis CAN start
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I didn't say we did.
They’re pleased with his rehab. Until they’re not, I see no reason to go around chasing starting pitchers. That’s all.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I know
it wasn’t meant to be an attack
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I know.
I didn’t interpret it as such. Just making sure my position was clear :)
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Another former Rockies prospect getting Rule 5 attention,
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I find Wimberly and Aneury very ironic
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 11:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And keep him on the 25 man roster all year? Eh....
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the problem with taking a rule 5 pick
The team’s roster is pretty well set going into next year, We don’t have extra space in the bullpen to hide someone and we don’t have a team where someone’s unprotected minor leaguer is better then any of our current options starting or even really on the bench like San Deigo did last year.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, Cabrera emerged as their prize acquisition of the season.
David Patton’s time on the Cubs might be a better comparison of stringing along a Rule 5 pick.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I gave two examples
Patton is the stringing along, whereas Cabrera was better then anyone they had despite him not being on our 40-man roster. With the depth of the team I have trouble seeing someone who’s not on the 40-man roster of anther team being good enough to be on our 25-man
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He seems pretty optimistic about Francis
If he is nothing else but equal to Marquis we stand for an improved lineup as Hammels, JLDR, and most of all Jimenez hopefully improve
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
“Hammels”. Jason Hammel and Cole Hamels’ lovechild?
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Except - and everyone keeps forgetting this
We had FOUR starting pitchers have career years last season. Why does everyone just assume they’ll do so again?
by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why assume they won't?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Though career years could just be progression years leading to even greater, especially for someone like Jimenez.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Ubaldo is a rising star and actually probably hasn’t even hit his ceiling yet, Aaron Cook has been great when not injured for several years now (and we still have great infield defense to go with his groundballs), and JDLR seemed to have found something when he came here.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
because Ubaldo and Hammel are young still
DLR has made massive strides
Cookie is somewhat of a known commodity.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeap :)
Talk about a scary looking pitcher…
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny that
We trade two of our minor league player last year for two guys teams didn’t want. One plays really well and the other just got “sold” to a Japanese team. The two minor league players are both getting Rule5 attention. Kind of cool.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The circle of life is baseball:)
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Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Rangers interested in Augie Ojeda
According to Steve Gilbert. He’s not quite in the category of Cody Ross, Pedro Feliz or James Loney where he just seems to play so much better against the Rockies than he does against anybody else, but he’s close. I wouldn’t mind not seeing him next season.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind
having him either.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh crumb...
Craig Baker is getting attention in the Rule 5 draft too. I’d actually regret losing him more than Johnston.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Where can I find the Rule 5 Draft order
and how is it calculated?
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Reverse order of the standings in 2009,
but the Nationals “traded” their top pick to the Yankees in exchange for Bruney. It actually works out that the Nats still pick the player, but the Yankees tell them who to pick and get him as a PTBNL.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Where would they play Uggla?
3B and move Sandoval to 1B?
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard, it was kind of a convoluted scenario where they get Uggla
play him at second, move Sanchez to third and Sandoval to first. The thought being that Uggla would be worse at third than he is at second and not really valuable at first or something. Whatever it is, this move might weaken their infield defense enough to offset most of the offensive gain.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the correct answer
Sandoval needs to not be a 3B. I mean, he wasn’t bad like BADDDDD but he was hardly a solid 3B.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That would
almost be a wash with what they have now. Uggla supplies power and a higher OBP but a lower quality glove and a higher chance to strike out.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rockies and Yorvit close to 2 year deal
seems like they are a lot
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
This according to Buster Olney...
Since it’s new, I imagine it means that it’s a bit closer than it was last night and we should get something more concrete soon.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
i like Buster so i am going to assume he is going to be right
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 9, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
but if it's buster olney
they might not have talked in 4 days
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of chatter from the Mets on this,
including this tweet from beat writer Bart Hubbuch that says he’s “on the verge” of signing with the Rockies. Mets fans see this as a weakening of Bengie Molina’s leverage for some reason, even though we’ve seen no indication of interest in Molina from the Rockies.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A source is reporting a rumor that the NY Yankees,
in an apparent long-term cost savings move, have purchased Scott Boras for a reported $100 million dollars.
What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?
by Fiftytwoeighty on Dec 9, 2009 12:23 PM MST reply actions 5 recs
A source is reporting a rumor that the NY Yankees, in an apparent long-term cost savings move, have purchased murdered Scott Boras for a reported $100 million dollars.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And
there was much rejoicing around baseball. “The Yankees finally did something worth while.”
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Millwood to the O's is close apparently
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
for Chris Ray, that's sort of interesting in a "I don't really care about the AL so I haven't really looked at it" sort of way.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hehe
I care aboout the AL but I know what you mean
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
DId Ray do something notable when we last played the Orioles in 2007?
Or was he part of another important trade? I recognize his name.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just looked up his Wiki page.
It’s the Mother’s Day Massacre I remember his name from.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember seeing highlights from that game. I didn't realize that O's fans called it that,
but it makes sense. He has really dropped off a cliff since his closing days.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That game was the manager's
Guthrie never should have been taken out of that game
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
manager's *fault*
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if he did anything natable against us
but I thought he was really good before his Tommy John Surgery. He was not impressive at all this year
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the O's
but the division they are in I don’t see this helping much.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Rangers sold high
because that’s some fool’s gold there.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers getting a pitcher
with a 7+ ERA, 5 BB/9, 8 K/9 and 1.7 HR/9 last year
The strikeouts aren’t bad but otherwise meh
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers denying the closeitude
haven’t signed off yet
apparently they remember the mother’s day massacre as well
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers will send along $3M
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LaTroy Hawkins to the Bewers, pending physical
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Did you read the report
where he got tired of sitting around the house waiting for news, so he hopped on a plane and showed up at the meetings?
Hot stove leads to panda porn
by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, no I didn't! that's awesome!
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
HAHA! I always liked him. Especially after he helped the Phillies with the tarp.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he's a hands-on kind of guy
Hot stove leads to panda porn
by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 12:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't believe the Phills all did it, and the Rockies...didn't
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they were probably all in the clubhouse before they realized what was happening.
And LaTroy was probably coming from the bullpen, so he was behind the rest. At least, that’s what I assume.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is exactly what happened...
… though it could be argued that they should have come back out and joined their opponents in helping.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this makes some sense,
since it’s been covered and the Rockies have egg on the face, I bet it’s the last time that it happens.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's from Gary, IN
that’s a pretty poor area, lot of crime.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
welcome aboard
great song/musical
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I didn't
have school so I could do that. Sitting at this computer between classes is boring waiting for updates.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
For me this is a step up from past years
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
me too
but I would rather be playing baseball right now (temperature just broke 10°F for the first time in 3 days)
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
I don’t know what’s worse. The single digit temps you guys have or the heavy mixture of sleet snow and freezing rain I have in the RI
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
having lived in both the frigid wastelands of Northwest Colorado and the snowy/sleety Northeast,
I can tell you that I’d rather have the snow and ice than the day after day of bitter cold.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately, having also lived in Southern California,
I can tell you that there’s a much better winter weather option available.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
SoCal cold sucks.
It’s the bitter, inside your bones kind as opposed to the nippy, pleasing skin cold.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that is true re the cold....
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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Add NorCal to that.
It’s been getting down into the 30s here for about a week now, and that is COLD here. And in that our office building apparently can’t figure out how to heat appropriately, and I’ve been cold for days.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lots of hot cocoa!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a hot cocoa fan.
I wish we had hot cider. That I would take.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well that too...I often just revert to hot water with lemon and honey
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That nippy, pleasing skin cold turns nasty pretty fast,
especially when it goes on for several weeks and you have stretches of days below the zero line. And the SoCal bone deep cold doesn’t hit as bad as it does in Buffalo/Cleveland, which I haven’t lived in, but I’ve seen enough winter days in to safely say they are my least desirable winter locales.
Sure, I suppose Hawaii or somewhere down on the Baja coast are better still, but I’ve never been.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't agree.
50 is my ideal temperature, and I’d much rather it be 0 than 100.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
then why are you complaining about SoCal?
It actually sounds like we might agree. It’s funny how everybody thinks their weather’s the pits.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My complaint about SoCal was the actual feeling of cold.
Not the temperature.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Picky, picky, picky :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
50!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
You’re heating bills must be dreamy
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's powered by fury.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i read that as furry...doh
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So did I
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s powered byfuryfurry.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ding Ding Ding
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It could be like here in Montana
-22 before windchill when I got up this morning. They were predicting windchill at -39
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK you win
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I lol'd when I read that bone-chilling cold part about Socal
They don’t know bonechilling, I forgot my gloves when I went home for lunch and it took about 3 seconds and I didn’t need them anymore
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know bone-chilling cold before I cam eto SoCal.
I’d lived in Denver my whole life, where the cold isn’t bone chilling.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna have to feel it to believe it
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you're in Rhode Island, so it might be different.
Do you have humidity there? If so, you already know it. Dry cold like you get in Colorado is far different than cold in places with humidity.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We always have heavy humidity (All year round)
The only time we don’t is if a huge front passes through and even then it’s back in a day or too. (Southern New England really sticks out into the Atlantic so we’re always effected by it.) I think I would like Colorado though because my favorite weather days are those precious few after a front moves through.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
too two
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with WolfMaurader
on this point. I grew up in Colorado and go back frequent especially at the holidays. 30 here is colder than 30 there. Can’t speak for Montana but I’m thinking its similar to Colorado in the cold factor?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah 30 there might feel colder then 30 here
But I doubt 30 there compares to -30 here
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the way the cold feels. I’d rather be in 5 degree weather in CO than 40 degree weather in LA
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!!!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If this is the case then I'm bringing
my cold, wet, snowy, windy, rainy, and humid case for RI back to the table
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you exaggerate there...
I can understand equal temp to equal temp , that CO cold is more bearable, but right around that single digit mark, it’s just cold and it doesn’t matter if it’s dry. And the great thing about SoCal is that you actually warm up during the day. At least on the Western Slope, that’s not always the case.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and if you've never experienced below 0 weather it's different
You breath through your nose and everything inside freezes definitely a new experience for some people
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've experienced much colder than 0.
I stand by my statement.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I experience -20 in Minneapolis
for a week. I hope to never have to experience that again. That was miserable…..
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not exaggerating in the slightest, I'm afraid.
Remember, I thrive in the cold. But only the Colorado kind of cold. They’re completely different to me, like water and wine. They might as well be entirely different terms.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on this point Wolf
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a friend in LA, who would walk around in shorts and
flip flops in 40 degree weather. I knew a person in Colorado who lost three toes due to frostbite in single digit temps. I understand your perception of things, but in real life there are some very real differences.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and I've been on the Outer banks in 40-50 degree weather it was cold
but a jacket and jeans was enough even when on the beach. Here that doesn’t even come close to cutting it in winter time
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even start wearing a jacket until it's lower than freezing.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I start putting it on
around 35°F
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I do it around 40
We’re close
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As usual, I am speaking entriely subjectively.
I don’t mean to imply anything otherwise.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know nothing personal
Though I do have to admit that after your body acclimates to the -20 when it does warm up to 40 it’s short-sleeve football time
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's because you're near the ocean
Humidity does strange things. I know that raining and 35 feel much colder than it just being lets day 20
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point was more about humidity.
At least, that’s how it is here. It took me a couple years to figure out why 50 degrees here felt colder than 50 degrees in Colorado or Utah (where I went to school). The humidity makes the cold go right through you.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
dingdingding....
we have a winner!!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I don't think I could handle cold in the midwest
or in the east. The dry cold in Colorado is perfectly fine with me.
by holly96 on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Though I do have to admit
it’s funny having to tell all the easterner and west coast that they better bring lotion with them anytime they come here and drink lots of water. Otherwise expect bloody noses and the such
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
where in Montana are you?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
South Central
a little place that’s been in the news a lot called Hardin
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
my nephew lives in a tiny little place called
Pittsburg….
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
though if you want to know really cold go up on the High-line
Around wolfpoint, that is stupid cold routinely has coldest temps in the lower 48 all year not counting windchill which is worse then anything when the wind kick up to 30-40mph
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
RMN is not going to be happy when he sees all of this :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
we’re we supposed to stay on Rockies related topics?
Hawpe
to trade or not to trade
Catcher
sign someone and hope that it really doesn’t matter because CI becomes everything we want him to be.
Ok covered next topic :)
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
He just doesn’t like it when sees 100 new comments and only 10 are about baseball.
Watch what happens when he comes back.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol I know
was just being sarcastic :)
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
RMN seems to have stopped trying.
He was as off topic as anyone last night :D
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides it off-season
and no one is really expecting anything discussion worthy happening to the Rockies at these meetings.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking we were talking about
whether it would more miserable to play baseball in -30 in Montana or 30 in SoCal? Did I miss something? :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Montana hands down
Swinging a bat and hitting something when it’s that cold would be so painful
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's get Manny out there then
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just holding
the baseball or bat in this weather is terrible. I’ve done it in 30° here and I think it would be worse in the negatives.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You can feel it in your hands
when the bat hits anthing
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The funny thing about off topic is that it's so much fun
when you are in the middle of it but not as much fun reading it later because the moment’s gone.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They were predicting windchill Brad Hawpe’s UZR at -39
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
grrrrr
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That one was below the belt
(but well played)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
For me?
South-Central little place called Hardin
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been through there many a time.
I drive 90 to go see family in Bozeville, and I lived the first two years of my life in Great Falls.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
We’ve made our fair share of new lately in the last year I’m surprised how many people know of us now
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami anyone?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I can vouch for that.....
San Diego being about the most perfect weather anywhere…
although at times I do miss a noticeable season change, although I guess leaves falling off trees counts and rainy season :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope its nice for the Holiday bowl...
by Teekalong on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think last year it rained cats and dogs during the Holiday bowl
are you attending?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep I'll be there
I could live without rain.
by Teekalong on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have baseball too but I'm just happy I have something to get me through the winter
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
2 year deal
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
2 years, $7.5M
looks like that time with the ’Stros did him well
funny, I remember another team signing him to a contract that didn’t work out so well…
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Crasnick confirms that Kevin Correia has been told he will be non-tendered.
here. I imagine he might get a more certain starting opportunity with another team, but maybe our contender status will lure him.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if sticking it to the Pads will add to that
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
I’d be shocked if there aren’t multiple teams calling him right now.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we
start talking to his agent now or do we have to wait until it is official?
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We can talk to them any time.
Though we wouldn’t be able to actually acquire him until he is non-tendered, obviously. Unless a team were to trade.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor guy. He did nothing if not decent stuff for them last year.
I wouldn’t mind him at all as a long reliever/Francis emergency replacement.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at his BBR page
and taking into account he pitched at PETCO I would like to have him as a 5 starter, especially if Francis isn’t completely healthy yet.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Would be excellent insurance
if he could be signed cheaply. Plenty of teams could use a solid, cheap, bottom of the rotation guy like him, so he may not wind up being that cheap. He’s not someone I’d invest much in at least.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Padres do make a deal during what remains of the Winter Meetings, it will be with Kouzmanoff.
This ought to disappoint those hoping for Adrian Gonzalez or Heath Bell.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
AWW POOR RED SOX
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fresh in, San Diego is trading their weather
to the Billings Mustangs for a PTBNL (Hey it’s about the only thing left to be traded)
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OKAY, NOW THEY HAVE GONE TO FAR!!!!!!!
/looks for pitchfork and torch
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How about San Diego's weather for Brad Hawpe?
by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they'll throw in Heath bell
If we give them a Heath bar and sing them Jingle Bells
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they would say no....
but who would we want in return?
we don’t need any Padre really….
I used to wonder if Atty would land with the Pads but that was before last year
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually offering Brad to SDCat
I am assuming she controls the weather :)
by biondino on Dec 9, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Now if you are offering Brad to ME that's a whole other story
lol and would that I had such power!!!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
does would = wish in this sentence?
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
more or less..yes
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What would you do with Brad SD?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I take the 5th
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The plot thickens
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Better buy gloves, coats, and hats SDcat
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego...layer city friends
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I have my winter gear. I haul it out for my travels to Colorado:) I'm prepared
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You could make a fortune then
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
New trade rumor
San Diego trades the beach to Hardin, MT for the Two Rivers Prison. If you want to know more about that just google it.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Joel Pineiro has been told he's the #2 starter on the market behind Lackey
so he’s looking for $10M+/year, upwards of Wolf
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 12:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
If someone gives it to him, I'll explode.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When the Mets If someone gives give it to him, I’ll explode.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When the Mets If someone gives give it to him, I’ll explode shrug my shoulders.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he should consider choosing his advisers more carefully.
If he’s dead set on that, he’s bound to be disappointed as the difference between him and Marquis isn’t that great.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Take that Jim Bowden
Rafael Rojas says that in an interview, Torrealba told him “his first interest was always coming back with the Rockies”.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 12:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
At the very least, I'm glad he appreciates his time with us.
He’s a loyal guy. My only major problem with a Torrealba return is his defense.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to read that
playing the conversation in my head, it seems to leave a "….but, " at the end of that sentence
I mean, we offered him a fair contract, for a backup/platoon
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Astros close to acquiring Matt Lindstrom
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yep, looks like they've decided to immediately pounce after Hawkins found a home elsewhere.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
they're also finalists on Soriano
prolly won’t get both
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Earlier this week I was trying to figure out a way the Rockies could get him,
but it just didn’t add up after Betancourt accepted arbitration. I like Lindstrom quite a bit.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't resist that 5.89 ERA huh
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's a pitcher that's better than his ERA makes him appear.
But given that it’s Ed Wade and the ‘Stros, I wouldn’t be surprised if they paid too much for him.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
relief pitcher's era
:rolleyes:
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a very talented pitcher that had injury concerns last season
I’d be interersted
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Maybe I just saw him on all the wrong days. I remeber closely watching the 9th inning of a game in April against the Phillies where Josh Johnson was pitching a shutout and he came with a 3-0 lead in the 9th and gave up seven runs in one of the worst attempts to close a game I have ever seen. I’ve seen him here and there throughout the season too and it always seems like he’s giving up runs. Perhaps you’re right since all three of you seem to agree but I don’t think I’ve seen him have a clean inning.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers second base possibilities...
Ronnie Belliard listed first, Jamey Carroll possible according to Dylan Hernandez. This seems a rather drab list.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
there's a serious lack of 2B around anymore.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone please take notice of this and remember it for the rest of the season
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT BUT PHULLIPE LOPES
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's weird how different positions go through cycles like that
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Andy Pettitte told the Yankees he was coming back over Thxgvn weekend
what a toolbox, making my morning full of the freaking Yankees.
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That might have been the Yankees themselves,
drama queens all.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he tell the Yankees he was using PED's too
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by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
when, 3 years ago when that was relevant?
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't forgive very easily
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Boras "getting ready to hold court"
big deal! oh man!
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
this
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Angels and Rangers really really want Darren Oliver
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I saw Angels, Red Sox, Rays, Rangers, Mets
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe where his career waswhen we took a flyer on him nearly 7 years ago
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
AL west wars continue
It seems to be everyone against the Anglels
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen an awful lot of "F*** the Angels" sentiment
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems that way
I wish the Rays, O’s, and Blue Jays would have the same feelings about the teams atop their division
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ruh-roh. USA Today reporter quoting Jim Tracy on Brad Hawpe.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
/smiles to myself
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want to slander a trade chip
Way to build up the rep
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well, what's wrong with that?
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
if Hawpe bats fifth
where does Smith bat?
Hot stove leads to panda porn
by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL pinch hitterz
Winners never quit, and quitters never win. But if you never quit *and* never win, you are an idiot
by squalene203 on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's not Mr. Late Night for nothing...
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS!
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I probably don't have as much of an issue with it as most,
but I do know that it would be a controversial topic here.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
there needs to be a "somewhere else" at the end of that sentence
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
/scowls at RIRF
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Should I bring out the cute dog?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nah we're cool...I know where you stand on the Hawpe issue
but felt a loyalty scowl was in order :)
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually not in the "we have to trade him" crowd
but I would be listening very keenly to offers
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
Though not because of what he isn’t simply because I like the other 3 starting and we’d get the most value for him. Case of dealing from depth deal the one that nets the best return.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I mean if having Hawpe, Dex, Cargo, and Mr. Late Night is the worst case scenario than that’s pretty good.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this I agree with..
I’m just not convinced that Mr. Late Night is ready for everyday starting….
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Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You and me both
but I agree he has earned the chance.
by Muzia on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Give him a watch set to eastern time
Then he will think the start of every game is late night
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's interesting
I might have him 6th at the highest
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Random tweet just came up:
#Rockies mgr. Jim Tracy on Brad #Hawpe who faded down stretch … “If we had to play a game tomorrow, he’d be hitting 5th.”
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 1:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Renck confirms Torrealba close
says between 5 and 5.5 million for two years.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I predicted 5.1
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You're looking good
Although didn’t someone try the price is right strategy on you?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't that you? 5.11 I think was the bid
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
5.11 was the bid though
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oh okay...sorry
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No not a problem
I wish I could take credit for such an evil yet genius move :-)
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That was me.
BWAHHAHAHA
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Look out Dodgers...Purple objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
I'll be the guy in a orange shirt EVERY Monday...Broncos are my team win or lose.
by RdRnnr on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ahhhh....grrrrr
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoever's right wins a car
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if that's the case
$5.21 million with $500,000 in incentives for plate appearances and runners caught stealing (5).
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
don't tease me...
could I win a job instead?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll definitely put my bid in now
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
uh
not a good one
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You know whats funny, the most serious arguments here on PR
are about two problems that other teams would give their eyeteeth to have, most likely.
Could we have dreamt of this 3 years ago?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
What?
the weather and panda porn?
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol no....
the great catcher debate and well in my mind trading Hawpe or not
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Henson reporting Rockies open to re-signing Marquis.
The “”http://twitter.com/stevehenson333/statuses/6508114021" >at a reduced number" part probably goes without saying.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Doh, hyperlink fail
just copy and paste or click here.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see the lower price working here
Not with the lack of SP on the market and GM’s like Omar running around that 15 wins is too tempting for some GM
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If Marquis were open to re-signing at a reduced number
would he not have accepted arb? My guess is signing with the Rockies is last resort.
Hot stove leads to panda porn
by Rawktober on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Weird non-news
This just in: Rockies are open to trading for Halladay…if no one else wants him and the price is low…
Marquis would have to have some bad luck and bad negotiating by his agent to wind up with the Rockies “at a reduced number” in 2010. I probably wouldn’t complain if that happened though.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Halladay would almost certainly veto.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he say something about not wanting to pitch
in his hometown because of the pressure? or am I confusing that with someone else?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card. Can't wait to do it again next year!
Troy Tulowitzki - MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba - Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
by SDcat09 on Dec 9, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall ever hearing Halladay saying anything about wanting to pitch in his hometown.
Sounds like a fabrication by some hopeful fan.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay, how about this
Breaking News: Rockies willing to sign free agent Matt Holliday…for $5M/yr.
The quote was just funny to me. Sounds mainly like someone asked DOD if he’d even consider making an offer to Marquis this off-season. Yes, the Rockies would be happy to have him back, just not at the salary he stands to make on the market.
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Giants want Nick Johnson, D-Backs wanted Hawkins
but neither were willing to offer more than a one-year deal.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 1:58 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado (the state) maybe beginning to enjoy a tiny
economic advantage over AZ and CA? At least when you look at unemployment rates Colorado is doing far better than the other two, at 6.6% compared to 9.4% and 12.3%…And Phoenix and San Diego were like ground zero for the housing bubble.
by moomacher on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point
If LA does have major payroll cuts for 2011, the Rockies will have close to the highest payroll in the division.
/Gulp
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's an odd thought to even contemplate
by phishbate on Dec 9, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well San Fran had the second highest and we were close to them right
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think a worst case scenario still would have the Dodgers ahead of the Rockies in payroll.
It could be closer, however, and given our better payroll efficiency over the last few years that would spell trouble for them.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And if our attdance goes up
which it could, doesn’t that give us a few million more to work with?
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With Betancourt going to arb...
is our RP shopping pretty much done?
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Street, Betancourt, Corpas, Morales, Flores, Belisle, and Daley would be our bullpen as it stands now. It could use improvement, but all the slots are filled with somebody. Buchholz returns midseason and will allow some shifting.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
FA wise
who’s out there that’s an improvement?
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty, but who's out there that's an improvement and can be fit into the budget easily? That's a little trickier.
I don’t tend to speculate about players who aren’t on the team yet, just ones they specifically show interest in. Since all bullpen talks have died down after the Betancourt return, as of now, that’s my pen, but should they start bringing up new names, we can see about whether they’d be a good fit or not.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm down with this pen
assuming everyone is healthy and end-year Belisle was real, I’m on board. Certainly I’d rather a lights-out LOOGY over Flores, but you can’t have it all. Having Buck in the wings is nice too.
by Teekalong on Dec 9, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Renck has more of the Tracy media meeting,
As well as Hawpe, he talked about next year’s rotation.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Rockies have been impressed by his workouts,
and rehab, so it’s not that surprising. JDLR still worries the team a bit, it seems. I’m really interested that he mentioned Smith along with Deduno and Rogers, but not Chacin. I wonder if I’m reading too much into that.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that too
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Hoping that he’s right about Jeff, was probably the first big Rockies prospect I remember following through his quick ascension.
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think Francis has a lot of upside but I’’m using the “No expectations, No disappointments” theory with him.
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah though if he can go back to what he was before...
It’s going to be a great year to be a Rockies fan. Best pitching in NL West :)
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hands down
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers being mentioned above Chacin makes sense, but he's on the same clock as the other three.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way it reads
Sounds like he’s more then willing to start the season without adding another pitcher
by Chacinisthefuture on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know they've been impressed (I mentioned that just a minute ago while defending Francis)
Even being impressed, I’d STILL not put him anywhere higher than #4.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
why does it matter so much?
The matchups get messed up quickly, and I think it’s likely he will miss starts regardless, so I doubt you’re putting extra strain on his arm. I think worrying about the order is much ado about something of little benefit.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It probably is.
But the #2 is still probably more likely to face more difficulty than the #4, even after the rotations get knocked out of line. Even if it only makes a small difference, I’d rather not have Francis in that position. But hey, they know better than I do.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The pitching rotation is arbitrary
The only thing is the match-ups. I remember back a few years when our 4/5 pitcher was getting run support against other aces and winning. This indicates to me that if we score runs it doesn’t matter who’s pitching as long as they throw strikes.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The matchups are indirectly dictated by the rotation.
If you toss someone in the #2 spot, they’re still more likely to draw tougher opposition than the #4 spot. No, it’s not going to happen that way all the time, but it will to a degree that prevents it from being arbitrary. If it were arbitrary, I assume you’d be okay with putting Jason Hammel in the #2 spot?
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
the offense has to score runs either way.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So all baseball teams should just throw out their pitchers in any order.
I just simply can’t agree with that.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
the match-ups do help a teams chances against a more difficult pitcher though.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And putting your better pitchers towards the top of the rotation increases their chances of more equal matchups.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
In theory
Wouldn’t the best way to go be 5, 1, 2, 3, 4. You throw away the first game but increase your chance of winning in the other 80%
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be like
decreasing your chances by 20% the first game and increasing the other four by 5%
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If pitchers were perfectly separated into skill level,
yes. But this isn’t the case. Some teams #4s are going to be stronger than other teams’ #3’s, so the advantage of playing it like this can make a bigger impact depending on who is in your rotation.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Hammel was up there with the #4s, if I remember correctly.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
best #4
like 3rd best #5 (Hanson and Niemann)
Hope got in my eyes
by Andrew Martin on Dec 9, 2009 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least it's not detrimental
I wonder if Bud Selig will give the Yankees a receipt with their World Series purchase
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tango at the Book blog showed that it's not all that relevant a few years ago.
You get this benefit for something like two weeks, and even then, if you’re #4 has a much greater advantage over your opponent’s #4 than your opponent’s #2 has over your #2, as would be the case here, it’s at worst neutral to a true order of rotational skill. The upside of the study was that it’s far more important who is in your rotation than what order they pitch in.
by Rox Girl on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that why the team from ny does what they do?
get the best pitchers to throw them in any order they want.
JFK
by jrockies on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, of course who is in your rotation is more important.
But I still don’t see anybody acknowledging that the order they pitch in can affect the matchups in a way that makes them more equal. I’m not trying to say that a good rotation can only operate in a specific order. However, the #2 starter is going to match up with more #2s than the #4. I’d rather have Aaron Cook in these games than Jeff Francis. Whatever difference that is, I’d prefer to have it than to just shrug it off as not important.
by WolfMarauder on Dec 9, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, it seems Jason Hammel drew aces more often than anyone
I think someone actually ran the numbers on that and proved it last year
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Dec 9, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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