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ROX LIGHT ON WHEELS

The Denver Post's Patrick Saunders went into detail about the Rockies' lack of team speed; more specifically, the fact that they don't have a legitimate stolen base threat other than Scott Podsednik, who isn't a lock to make the 25-man roster out of Spring Training. The team sounds confident that they can work around the problem, though. This excerpt from the article provided analysis from a key Rockie:

"We don't have too much speed if you look at it, especially if Pods isn't in there," Tulowitzki said. "So we aren't bringing too much speed to the table. I will try to do my part. We are going to have to pick the right times to run and be successful that way."

This is no secret to Rockies fans, as the losses of Kaz Matsui, Willy Taveras, and even Matt Holliday over the past two seasons have hurt the team's ability to produce with speed (although Willy's non-existent OBP didn't help, either - just ask Dan O'Dowd, who was quoted in the article). Two candidates to make the team out of Spring Training, in Dexter Fowler and Eric Young Jr. (though he's a longshot) have the ability to bring team speed to the table. I know I'll be keeping my fingers crossed, hoping one of those two (or both) has a monster Spring Training and somehow quickly evolves into a solid Major League regular.

STEROIDS AND MANNY (LIKE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ENOUGH)

Tracy Ringolsby's (more on him in a minute) latest "Rockies 24/7" blog entry clears up the Luis Gonzalez PED situation from last season. Apparently, LuGo was taking medication to control a gout-like problem and said medication contained some type of amphetamine. That's great...

Also, in what hopefully doesn't turn out to be gout in the foot of the Rockies, Garrett Atkins may have provided the following bulletin-board material to the Dodgers regarding Manny Ramirez:

"I don't know that they are the clear favorite, because they lost a lot of guys. They are going to miss (Derek) Lowe and (Brad) Penny"

Either way, I am experiencing a high level of enjoyment seeing the Dodgers suffer. This story perfectly describes their situation with Manny.

FOX SPORTS ISN'T IMPRESSED

In their Spring Training edition of the MLB Power Rankings, FoxSports.com has the Rockies ranked 21st (out of 30 teams), and offers these comments:

The loss of Matt Holliday is a big blow to an offense that did nothing to replace him. Brian Fuentes is gone, too, but the Rox added Huston Street to close. Hard to see how this team got better this offseason.

We all know how the team can get better (Helton and Tulo bouncing back, etc), but this pretty much echos the sentiment of the entire baseball media when it comes to the Rockies. Personally, I like that the team doesn't have high expectations (see: 2007, as opposed to 2008).

GOODBYE, ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS AND HELLO, HEALTHY TODD (HOPEFULLY)

The Cowboy's final Rockies-related piece for the Rocky Mountain News fittingly details the long time face of the franchise and his battle to get back to form. The thing I took most from the article was the manager from a rival NL West club's comment on the Toddfather:

"He's that guy who wears the pitcher down in the late innings," San Francisco manager Bruce Bochy said. "You get him 0-2, and next thing you know it's 3-2 and he's fouling off pitches. It's not that you pitch the other guys in the lineup different. It's just he takes a toll on the pitcher."

A healthy Todd means a better ballclub, no question about it. Hopefully, Helton is able to get some spring AB's soon.

As for Ringolsby, we'll still see him covering the Rockies with FSN Rocky Mountain, as well as writing about baseball with FoxSports.com and Baseball America.

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Is there

anything more useless than a power ranking?

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Feb 27, 2009 8:30 AM MST reply actions  

Ubaldo's bat

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 27, 2009 8:51 AM MST up reply actions  

This game

begs to differ.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Feb 27, 2009 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

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Who wants to buy me a Brad Hawpe jersey for $60? Anyone? Anyone?

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by Andrew Martin on Feb 27, 2009 8:59 AM MST reply actions  

Moving on. . . .

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Feb 27, 2009 10:52 AM MST reply actions  

Livan Hernandez

pitching for the Mets today. What a welcome sight.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Feb 27, 2009 11:10 AM MST reply actions  

Stolen bases are overrated...

That’s what Moneyball and Billy Beane says.

But the two WS teams, the Phillies and Rays finished 1st and 4th in SBs last year, so what does that tell us? The Phillies were successful 84% of the time in moving a runner into scoring position with this technique. How does that compare to hit-and-runs or sacrifice bunts?

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Feb 27, 2009 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

It tells me

that, without looking, I’m guessing both the Phillies and Rays also had very high team OBPs. Remember that SBs are a counting stat, not a rate, so they’re affected by other factors. (Just as RBIs are)

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Feb 27, 2009 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

So you are saying

Willie Tavares must have got on a lot last year?

No…I get your point, in that you have to get on before you can get steals, and the more a TEAM gets on…thus they will have more steals. But a team still has to have players that have the ability to steal…once they get on.

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Feb 27, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Using Willy Taveras for/against any argument

is almost the epitome of small sample size.

For the record, here’s the top 5 in the league in steals last year:

Taveras – 68 SB, .308 OBP
Reyes – 56 SB, .358 OBP
Rollins – 47 SB, .349 OBP
Bourn – 41 SB, .288 OBP
Pierre – 40 SB, .327 OBP

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 2, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Wow...Bourn was awful.

Nice to know that even though Willy was bad, it could have been worse.

"What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do." -Bob Dylan

by Bryan Kilpatrick on Mar 2, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Looked it up and this is what I found...

2008 Team-Rank-OBP
Rays 10th .340
Phillies 16th .332

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Feb 28, 2009 12:58 AM MST up reply actions  

BTW

The median success rate for Stolen Bases in baseball last year was 73%. Which shows me that a SB is a pretty safe bet.

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Feb 28, 2009 1:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Well,

it was unfounded speculation. ::shrug::

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 2, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly, and Saunders.....

is too eager to say we lack speed, while completely ignoring that we lack POWER. We don’t have much thump in the lineup, or a clear cleanup guy. No one is likely to hit more than 25 HRs, much less 30 (or 40)

The downfall of this ballclub could be the lack of the big hit, just like last year. Stranding runners or failing to hit in the clutch won’t be helped a lot by having more team speed or stolen bases..

by GoRoxGo on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

We don't have a 40 HR guy

but that doesn’t mean we have no power. We could still realistically get 150 HRs from our starters

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 27, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Ahem..

Not to rain on your forecast parade, but 150 HR’s would have put the Rocks in 22nd place in 2007 and 2008. The last time the Rockies hit 150 HR’s was in 2005 when Helton led the team with 20 bombs and the great Dustan Mohr was third with 17 knocks.

Keepin' warm by the hot stove season.

by Charlie77 on Feb 28, 2009 1:15 AM MST up reply actions  

Note that I specified STARTERS

Total projections based on projected 2009 starters:

BJ: 129
Oliver: 105
Marcel: 105
CHONE: 122

Some of those include some pretty pessimistic projections too (Spilborghs with 6).

The 2008 total for comparison? 116. (of team total 160).

Note: Platoon play clouds the “starter” definition. I just used those with the most at-bats at each position. Thus, contributions from Stewart, Baker, Torrealba et al were not included. So 150 from our starters alone would be optimistic but possible.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 28, 2009 5:49 AM MST up reply actions  

A stranded runner

could scored with a base hit…

If a guy gets a single, with one out, and steals second, he scores with a single.
If he lacks speed, he’s still at first when the single is hit, and only advances to third. When the next hitter grounds out, like last year, the run doesn’t score.

There is an advantage to speed.
Saber heads don’t like the stat because it relies on something else to have happened (getting on base first), so it makes it harder to quantify.
Imagine if Tavares didn’t have speed. Does anyone here think he would’ve scored 64 runs last year, with a .308 OBP, if he wasn’t stealing some bases? Speed has its uses.

by rockieprogress on Feb 27, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

It says there is one instance of an exception

It doesn’t disprove Beane at all. Show me that WS foes routinely rank highly in SBs, and I’ll consider that SBs are indeed not overrated.

Most people say a solid running game is essential to success in the NFL. The fact that a team made the Super Bowl with the NFL’s worst rushing game does not completely disprove that assessment.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 27, 2009 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Good call.

I like the parallel to football.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 2, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

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