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Tuesday Rockpile: Dexter Fowler could break camp with the big club, Ian Stewart back at middle IF

Too early to expect Fowl to head south for the summer?

We didn't see this coming a month ago.  Tracy Ringoslby reported late last night that "there are growing signs" that both Ian Stewart and Dexter Fowler will make the team.   This seemingly contradicts his Battle Lines report earlier Monday which had Fowler 3rd in the CF battle.


Dexter Fowler

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Fowler's steady improvement throughout spring is starting to show he is not as overmatched as previously thought.  Thaks to Tracy:

  In 12 games prior to Tuesday, he was not only  10-for-22, but had struck out only twice.

Those are some stat line that will turn some heads. There would be plenty more wide eyes should Fowler rapidly supercede the stud outfielder Matt Holliday yielded in that November trade. 

Fowler would mitigate roster weaknesses of speed, CF defense and would be the only switch hitter on the roster.  Call me conservative, but I don't make this move yet.  I'm all for Fowler swinging his stick in the Springs for a couple months to compile at-bats. I don't see the need to rush him.  Then again, if his statistical ascension continues over the next 12 days, I might have to reconsider.

 

Hurdle reads the Row?

Several Rowbots have been pining for Ian Stewart to get some playing time at 2B.  Drew Goodman announced during yesterday's telecast that Stewart has been instructed to work on it, and Jeff Huson apparently witnessed it.

 

Three more sent down

Joe Koshansky and Greg Reynolds each got an invitation to Colorado Springs.  No surprises there. Jhoulys Chacin was reassigned to minor league camp.

 

Other news and notes

Courtesy of Troy Renck....The Marlins may finally play in a baseball stadium.  A $515 million retractable roof baseball stadium has been approved by Dade County, ready for 2012....To the dismay of RockiesMagicNumber, the Padres signed RHP Shawn Hill.

 

Parting Thoughts

The Rockies have received unexpected power from Todd Helton and Sal Fasano this spring.  Note that Fasano's home runs have come against Jason Windsor, Rich Rundles and Yovani Gallardo.  Gallardo gave up three home runs that day and clearly was off his game.

Conversely, Helton has hit home runs off of three major league pitchers:  Gallardo, Kyle Davies and Chris Young. His other home run was off Arizona's Cesar Valdez.

Poll
Given Dexter Fowler's steady improvement this Spring, what would you do with him?
Give him the spot. His CF defense and speed will be invaluable, and he's earning the look. He's worth releasing Podsednik
87 votes
Send him to Colorado Springs. He has yet to play above AA and there is no sense rushing him with the capable outfield currently in place
144 votes

231 votes | Poll has closed

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Everyone agrees with me!!!

Oh wait I’m the only one to agree with… The only reason I’m no in a hurry to start fowler at the majors to begin the season is because Spilly has also looked really good. If we needed somebody to man center I wouldn’t hesitate though.

by Chacinisthefuture on Mar 24, 2009 8:10 AM MDT reply actions  

THIS.

I think Dex is worth a shot (or can be, by the end of ST), but even moreso than Ian Stewart, he needs regular ABs, and unlike Stewart, probably won’t play anywhere but CF.

One option would be to play him in center and shift Spilly around, but if you do that, there’s even less ABs for Stewart unless he somehow becomes our regular 2B (highly unlikely) or the club trades Atkins some time this season (unlikely, but more likely than Stewie becoming the 2-bagger, imho).

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by Mondogarage on Mar 24, 2009 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

IfWhen we trade Atkins

The big question will be do we stay with the 26 year old LF who may or may not follow his seeming path of progression and improvement, or the underrated 4th OF who could be really good but is gonna be like 30 soon?

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think that's a question for Scott Boras

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

We're talking next season

and Spilborghs won’t be a FA, he’ll be arbitration eligible.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Hmm indeed

though the dark shadow lurks a year away….I suppose this season will do a lot to settle the debate.

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Elementary Watson

This team has no speed and CF in Coors is a big place. I think Spills is a short term solution at best out there and the everyday play there will wipe him out. I can tell you that playing CF everyday is a major grind in any park let alone one with an OF this big.

I have said for two years the game is going back to its original glory, speed, defense, pitching. Rocks need some speed. Playing in the pitching rich division they do, they need to cover the gaps there. I watched a few games and Fowler is by far the best OF coverage guy we have and has not looked overmatched at all at the plate. This guy is no Juan Pierre as he has a plus arm makes tough plays look easy.

Quite frankly I would platoon Spilly and Smith in LF and start Fowler. But I suspect he will be a defensive sub in later innings for now.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Mar 24, 2009 8:26 AM MDT reply actions  

I have said for two years the game is going back to its original glory, speed, defense, pitching. Rocks need some speed.

I totally agree there. I can remember watching a Jim Palmer vs Gaylord Perry game where both teams were trying to scratch out 2 hit in an inning. Any time a runner got on it was hit and run, bunt, ..anything to move a guy to 2nd. Now I don’t think we will get fully back there as hitters are just better conditioned, and trained. The average hitter now has a better chance of 25 hrs. BUT the basic formula is still there for success in baseball, Pitching, Defense, Speed, and timely hitting.

I go both ways on Fowler. He needs regular AB’s. I think he adds more then he subtracts to the Rockies…but only if he’s given regular AB’s. He doesn’t need to sit in the majors.

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Missed a nice little nugget today.

Rockies’ Baker in demand

The Rockies often are criticized by rival executives for asking too much for their players in trades, but they figure to make a move with with utility man Jeff Baker, who is out of minor-league options and drawing interest from the Phillies, Astros and Pirates.

One possible target for the Rox: Phillies right-hander Kyle Kendrick, who was demoted to Class AAA on Monday. Kendrick, for all his faults, has won 21 games the past two seasons — as many as Rockies lefty Jeff Francis, who was hampered last season by shoulder trouble and recently underwent surgery.

Baker, who plays first, second, third and the outfield corners, would fill the Phillies’ need for a right-handed bat off the bench. The problem for the Phillies is that they would not have an available roster spot unless they traded one of their left-handed hitting reserves, Geoff Jenkins or Matt Stairs

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by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 8:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Why on EARTH would we want Kendrick

he doesn’t strike anybody out, he walks more than you’d expect from someone who can’t strike anybody out, and he had a LD% of 27% last year.

Kendrick is terrible.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kendrick, for all his faults, has won 21 games the past two seasons

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by Hizilla on Mar 24, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

don't bait me

Kendrick is young, and his only real upside is a potential for very solid control.

Other than that he’s really, really nothing special, at all.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty much what I thought.

A nobody prospect with the Phillies who dominates a short season in 07. But he can’t adjust now that he has been exposed to the rest of the league.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

well that

and his dinger control is pretty sub-par. The Cit doesn’t help that, and neither would Coors, but even in a more neutral park, it’s still pretty unimpressive.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

The question is would he help the Rockies more than Baker...

Given how much of a redundancy we have with Jeff (Even outside Stewart and Atkins, Christian Colonel figures to be about as valuable this season). It’s tough to say, actually, because of that control Kendrick protects against the kind of disaster a lot of our other pitchers who lack it could become if things go particularly bad, even if on the top side he doesn’t really add anything.

by Rox Girl on Mar 24, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

well here's the thing

He doesn’t actually display the control (it is mid 3’s BB9) in the majors, and when he’s busy not walking people, he’s giving up hits. I know that 27 LD% isn’t going to hang out forever, but he’s very, very hittable, with very little potential to DP his way out of it.

If he returns to his ‘07 form, he’s serviceable. He’d be Greg Smith 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Is Matt Murton a suitable enough power bat off of the bench to replace Baker with? Are we assuming he’ll be extraneous with Stewart taking over 2B or something of that nature?

A Baker trade DOES point to Stewart starting at 2B.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

correction

LAST SEASON his BB9 was mid-3’s. 2007 it was sub-2.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think a Baker trade points to Stewie starting 2nd.

Because I think they will continue to start Barmes there until he forces us to change strategy. A Baker trade does open up another backup spot for Stewie to get him some more ABs.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's more what I was going for

Sorry, I phrased that poorly. Good work consolidating my thoughts.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Finesse lefties rarely are that good at limiting BB's

I think that’s something people have to get into their heads because it seems paradoxical. I guess the question is if that walk given up by Tom Glavine as he avoids pitching to Matt Holliday is as costly as the walk given up by Franklin Morales because he can’t find the strike zone against Rich Aurillia. I think guys like Kendrick and Smith dink around the edges too much to weaker hitters at times, and that’s where they get into real trouble.

by Rox Girl on Mar 24, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

It goes one more step then that

1) when the miss…they tend to miss IN the zone..as they are working out side it/on the edge of it. Missing in the zone to good hitters with weak stuff will look like BP.

2) if they miss too many outside, then they are forced to come inside, and the hitter knows this…with weak/finesse stuff.

Which can all be over come, if the park is a big one that holds stuff, or has a large foul territory…..

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by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Kendrick - young, very solid control...

I agree, there is nothing special about him. So what makes him different than Baker?

by deacs on Mar 24, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Arms are more likely to burn out than infielder/utility guys.

That’s it. The Rockies have plenty of bench players, everybody would like more pitching.

by Rox Girl on Mar 24, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

well I guess would we rather watch Baker go 1-4 with a double and 2 deep flyouts

or watch Kendrick go 4 innings giving up 7 hits 2BB and 4 runs?

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or would you rather have Baker go on one of his 2 for 50 slumps,

While Kendrick gets as lucky as he did in 2007 again? You seem to be comparing an average Baker performance with a poor Kendrick one in your example, I’d rather we just stick to what to expect over a season from them.

Given the way the Rockies utilize Baker, and honestly, I don’t know if he should be used more given the team’s personnel, he added $3.1 million in 2006 and $2.5 million of value in 2008 with one terrible season in between (-$3.1 million) that completely negated his first year. He’ll turn 28 this season, which means he should have another year or two of that good side of production in him, but that playing time is a big caveat. Given Stewart’s emergence right now, the value of Murton as an equal RHB in the outfield and EY2 knocking down the door with a different skill set that the team currently lacks, the fact of the matter is Baker will likely be getting fewer PA’s over the next two years with the Rockies, not more, and therefore, I don’t see him putting up another season where he’s adding a win over replacement while wearing purple.

Kendrick added $4.1 million in his first season with the Phillies which was undoubtedly largely thanks to luck, and was negligible over replacement last year, but he’s four years younger and presumably would have more good seasons left. He’s not likely to pitch more than 120 IP for the Rockies, but he could register close to or over a win of value in that if he’s on his game.

It’s a tough call for me, but I think the Rockies are better served making a trade like this than they are keeping Baker. I’d like it if we could find a better offer, though, so perhaps we should see what unfolds.

by Rox Girl on Mar 24, 2009 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Baker Value

I’m with you on Kendric not being anything special. However, this is a case where, as has been mentioned many a-times before on PR, expectations may be too high. Just because there’s rumored demand for Baker, or someone fitting Baker’s skills and role, does not mean he’s suddenly worth a decent return.

by deacs on Mar 24, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rule #1

you can never have too much starting pitching

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

I did see this nugget...

but after I’d already written a ridiculously long ’Pile….good find tho

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Also

I’m all for Fowler breaking camp as the extra player who we will keep because we are caring only 4 starters. The Rockies need to play well coming out of the gate, and Fowler can help there in a pinch running and defensive replacement role. After two weeks, we can decided what to do. I know he will miss a few at bats in the minors, but it won’t hurt him too much to stick around a few weeks, and it will certainly help us.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 8:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Eh...

It sounds good on paper, but you know the Rockies are going to use the extra spot to carry a middle reliever.

by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 24, 2009 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

If Baker is moved

You’re looking at a bench with Torrealba as the backup C, Quintanilla as the middle infielder du juor, and Stewart filling the corner sub role (minus first base and right field) that Baker filled last year. That gives you two spots for outfielders… Murton should have one spot locked down the way he’s hit.

I think if you keep Fowler and don’t plan to play him everyday, you’re only going to stunt his growth. Let him start at AAA and play every day until you can’t possibly justify keeping him on the farm any longer. Keep Podsednik in the meantime – let him be your speed/defensive replacement guy, he’s more suited for that role considering the point he’s at in his career.

I am OK with trading Baker – we’d lose an extra 1B/RF option and a powerful RH bat off the bench, though hopefully Murton could fill the latter role. I am not OK with acquiring Kyle Kendrick – a young corner IF or a lefty power relief arm would be preferable.

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by Franchise26 on Mar 24, 2009 8:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Well

I thinking if they do keep Fowler, it will be as that extra player we have been hearing about in place of the 5th starter. You can keep both him and Pods on the team for two weeks. We can evaluate who should stay at that time.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 8:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's 6 OF

and that’s too many. Plus, why have Fowler in the majors to sit? How does that help him or the Rockies? A Pinch runner? not enough reason to take away AB’s in AAA

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't know

If he keeps hitting like this for the next few weeks, he may force us to make room for him.

One option is looking to trade Hawpe. I like him, but his defense and streakyness are frustrating at times. If we could get a solid starter and a prospect for him, I would do that. Than you can move Spilly to right and let Fowler have center. Its a more balanced lineup for the team, gets you more pitching, and is much better defensively. Just a thought.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 8:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Give you

Eric Byrnes for him? That way, he won’t be able to tear up Brandon Webb anymore…

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

clicks "Reject Trade" button

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

Counter offer, Haren and Scherzer

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

Counter counter offer

Haren, Scherzer and Webb for Hawpe and Francis.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

After thinking it over

I guess I’ll take it. I still don’t like it, but oh well.

I still expect the rotation to fail.

Webb
Cook
Haren
Jimenez
Scherzer

Nothing but junk

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, wait

I forgot. I want Torrealba too, with his “mad game management skillz”.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I can't stand torrealba anywhere but behind the plate

He does seem to have a way with pitchers.

But only his pitchers, other pitchers have their way with him :V

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Fine

Take Torrealba, we’ll get Mustache Power in the backup catcher spot.

by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 24, 2009 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh boy!

I’m so happy, I’ll even throw in Justin Upton.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 2:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Our OF is getting full.....and that's a good thing

Hawpe -rf
Fowler – CF
Spillbourghs/Smith -Lf
Murton-back up

Is nice, and if a guy like Murton (who I think is really underated) is the guy not getting AB’s than our OF is good…that’s quality depth there.

And yes…that means Pods is out, as well as Baker in the INF.

The Rockies have come a long way from the days of Kit Pellow

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like that this will be a tough choice

beause people are earning their spots. If the 5th starter battle was this good I would feel fantastic right now.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 24, 2009 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

In all fairness
  1. pitching spots usually do come down to least sucky. Nature of the spot. But I think Morales has the potential to be a plus pitcher still. I’m not sure I can say the same for Reynolds or Hirsh (since the injury), and Greg Smith is a complete unknown…but a soft throwing lefty…and I don’t like those in Coors Field

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

True nuff

and it wouldn’t exactly be a ‘5th starter’ battle if everyone was throwing 6 innings, 0 runs. But it seems like the corner outfielders competing for spots are 1 upping each other. I’d like to see the back of the rotation guys put up a couple sparkly outings to go with the workmanlike ones.

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by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 24, 2009 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

I haven't been plugged in

What’s the word on Ortmeier? I thought looked alright the 2 games I followed him.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ahead of Matt Miller on the depth chart,

He’s likely to be the first corner OF called up if Spilly, Smith or Hawpe go on the DL.

by Rox Girl on Mar 24, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

fantastic screen name

"I’m going to take a stab at something and say that you hate White Power Bill. "

by Teekalong on Mar 24, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lowest OBP this spring among them...

Fowler at .362. If they carry this to the regular season, look out.

by mkorpal on Mar 24, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

no "u" in spilborghs

Come on you’ve been posting here forever. Learn how to spell the players’ names.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

really you need to lighten up

on the spelling Nazi roll. It’s just a U. I miss spell lotsa stuff.

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by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

no you need to spell better

this isn’t very difficult.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Since when was

spelling a prerequiste to posting hear?

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by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Never said it was

I am encouraging you toward excellence. You make good posts and while I don’t agree with all your opinions, you have typically good rationale behind most of them. I figure a quality voice on this website should be displayed with similar quality.

Same with Hizilla don’t think you’re not on my list as well.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ouch

I have one post this morning and get singled out. You don’t like spelling Iannetta with one ‘n’?

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by Hizilla on Mar 24, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

we have a history

/shakes fist

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

You’re going to miss me when I’m gone this summer…

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by Hizilla on Mar 24, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

**hugz**

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

come onnnnnn

who’s my buddy?

who’s my buddy?

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

mind your business now.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

You're getting a little

full of yourself aren’t you?

As a spelling nazi on other boards, I tend to think misspelling words shows a lack of understanding.
That being said, sometimes its easy to point out others faults while not looking at one’s own… like the previous “mind your business now”… A bit much don’t you think?

by rockieprogress on Mar 24, 2009 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

it was a joke

and I sincerely doubt that Tom (RFTN) took it as anything other than that.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oops...

I DID take it as a joke. I’m an idiot.

by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 24, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

nono you're good

double negative canceled out the..

wait..

you can’t triple stamp a double stamp

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

hifive

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

HA

I appreciate your “encouraging me toward excellence”. I warn you it might be like sending a duck to eagle school when it comes to ma spillin.

I have a hard enough time making my thoughts seem coherent at times.

And yes…I have 2 college D-grees

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by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

as long as we're still friends

as I’m apparently far too full of myself.

Also full of Rice Krispies. I had 2 bowls this morning. I mean, I wasn’t gonna leave like 1 bowlful in the box. That’s silly.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just cannot see..

how you keep him and not start him though. Makes no sense from a timetable, development, or defensive point of view. Clock starts ticking on him.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Mar 24, 2009 8:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Has Fowler's Abrbitation Clock started

after last year’s call up?

I wish I knew such stuff…

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by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

psssst jabberwocky did articles on this

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think so

But IIRC he still has all three option years left since September callups don’t count toward that… maybe?

by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 24, 2009 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes it has...

but Tom is right, Fowler still has 3 options left, as September callups occur when the 40 man roster can in effect be treated as the major league roster.

Click on the Purple Row Academy link on the topic headings to find out more. I have lists of who has what options and what each player’s arbitration clock is. Check it out!

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by Jeff Aberle on Mar 24, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I should add that

the arbitration clock only moves when a player is in the major leagues—so if Dex is in the minors no problem exists with him. My gut is that the Rockies will stop Fowler from being Super Two eligible (giving them one more full year of control over him) by keeping him down in the Springs until mid-June at the earliest—making his service time low enough so that he’ll delay his arb-eligible status by one year.

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by Jeff Aberle on Mar 24, 2009 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

top Fowler from being Super Two eligible (giving them one more full year of control over him) by keeping him down in the Springs until mid-June at the earliest

I think this is an important part of the debate as well…If we don’t NEED him by mid-June, why start that rush it?

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly my point...

though if we end up two games back from a playoff spot we’ll rue that decision.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Mar 24, 2009 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Could one of you nice PRers

please petition Clint Hurdle to start Ian Stewart and Spilly? Stewart’s my starting 3B and I’m picking up Spilborghs off waivers….

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions  

watched the WBC game last night

Crap, that was a good one. Anyway ESPN had the fantasy line running across the bottom. Ian Stewart was the top 3B “On the Rise.” Iannetta was #1 catcher on the rise.

The funny ones were Todd Helton being the #1 1B on the decline, and Manny Corpas (?) as #1 reliever on the decline. I would think watching this spring, Helton would be the #1 bargain pickup.

In short, to answer your question, I’ll call Hurdle now.

Having more respect for DbacksSkins since the Raising Arizona pic

by frightened inmate #2 on Mar 24, 2009 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe this will make you feel a little better

it actually mentions Corpas and Helton

Rockies Mgr. Clint Hurdle on what needs improvement in 09: "Our Record"

by Redhawk on Mar 24, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

SUCH a good game

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sure, we can petition him

We can’t guarantee he’ll listen though.

by Tom (RFTN) on Mar 24, 2009 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Spilly went undrafted?

That’s a solid waiver wire pick there…

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well,

it’s one that I almost certainly wouldn’t make without being a regular reader at PR.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

pffffff

To the dismay of RockiesMagicNumber, the Padres signed RHP Shawn Hill.

whatever I’m still writing my CR about why we should’ve taken a flyer on him (or is it flier? I never know).

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 9:54 AM MDT reply actions  

I thought

he was playing QB for the 49ers…

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 24, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why is there a picture of Dex right in the middle of the column?

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 1:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, I just noticed that.

But it wasn’t there earlier when I first read this.

by holly96 on Mar 24, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had just figured out how to text wrap photos

So I was playing around with the feature…

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 24, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

ah. No worries then.

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by Andrew Martin on Mar 24, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

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