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Arizona Diamondbacks

Arizonadiamondbacks_1001_medium There are not many teams that are this close to solidifying their 25-man roster for the 2009 season.  That is largely due to the small turnover the roster felt over the off-season.  Gone are Orlando Hudson, Randy Johnson, Adam Dunn, Brandon Lyon and Juan Cruz but they were replaced aptly with Felipe Lopez, Tom Gordon, Scott Schoeneweis and Jon Garland as well as internal options.

via www.baseball-reference.com

 

Lineup:

All eight starters are already locked up for Arizona, and only Felipe Lopez differs from last year's line-up.  The Diamondbacks hope the continuity and growth of their young hitters is enough to build a strong lineup.  Even the line-up order is fairly set...Stephen Drew and Chris Young might swap positions against LHP.

Order Player Position AB BA HR RBI OBP SLG wOBA
1 Felipe Lopez
2B
552
.274
11
56
.349
.400
.335
2 Chris B. Young
CF
527
.260
25
77
.336
.482
.358
3 Stephen Drew
SS
532
.276
16
66
.340
.451
.346
4 Conor Jackson
LF
469
.296
14
75
.384
.465
.375
5 Justin Upton
RF
435
.257
16
60
.349
.444
.348
6 Chad Tracy
1B
445
.276
16
60
.339
.452
.346
7 Mark Reynolds
3B
468
.254
22
81
.333
.462
.347
8 Chris Snyder
C
332
.241
13
51
.344
.419
.340

 

Looking at wOBA, we can conclude the D-Backs line-up features zero elite hitters, one very good hitter (Jackson), five above average hitters (Young, Drew, Upton, Tracy and Reynolds) and two average hitters (Lopez, Snyder). That's a decent distribution, especially considering the relative youth of the line-up.

Arizona's line-up projects to score 4.924 runs/game (peaking at 4.959 arranged differently).  That's the same as 797.7 total runs, which ranks them right in the middle of the NL West.

 

Bench:

The Diamondbacks bench is also very set.  Eric Byrnes will remain an overpaid fourth outfielder, and pinch-hitter Tony Clark returns to continue blocking Minor League Player of the Year Josh WhitesellAugie Ojeda fills in as the primary utility infielder, and Miguel Montero is an above average offensive back-up catcher.

Player Position AB BA HR RBI OBP SLG wOBA
Miguel Montero
C
178
.256
12
54
.329
.419
.330
Eric Byrnes
OF
495
.259
17
60
.322
.428
.333
Tony Clark
1B/PH
206
.238
11
37
.326
.437
.336
Augie Ojeda
IF
274
.245
2
27
.334
.321
.303
James Skelton
IF/C
370
.246
5
40
.351
.346
.320

 

The final spot on the bench is between James Skelton and Ryan Roberts.  Both can play catcher, so Montero could be utilized frequently as a pinch hitter.  Skelton is a Rule 5 draft pick from the Tigers, so that gives him a slight edge over Roberts, who has had a very strong spring.

 

Rotation:

The theme continues, as all five starting pitchers are set in the rotation.  Brandon Webb and Dan Haren return as the best 1-2 punch in the NL West.  Doug Davis is an average #3 starter at best, but I like recently signed Jon Garland in the #4 starter slot.  Youngster Max Scherzer will be the fifth starter to start the year.  Given worries about his arm following a winter injury, manager Bob Melvin will take great care with the young gun.

Player IP W L FIP WHIP K
Brandon Webb 209
13
10
3.34
1.33
166
Dan Haren
203
12
10
3.41
1.23
190
Doug Davis
154
7
10
4.54
1.62
114
Jon Garland
187
9
12
4.48
1.50
102
Max Scherzer
83
5
4
3.84
1.29
94


The Diamondbacks' rotation is clearly a top two rotation in the division.  If Tim Lincecum or Matt Cain falter after getting abused last season by Bruce Bochy, Arizona's rotation will easily pass the Giants as the class of the NL West.

 

Bullpen:

Chad Qualls assumes the closer role he probably should have had going into 2008 as Brandon Lyon left for Detroit.  Tony Pena moves up to the set-up role, and former Washington closer Jon Rauch comes in as a solid 7th inning man.  Scott Schoeneweis came over from New York to be Bob Melvin's LOOGY.

Role Player IP W L FIP WHIP K/9
Closer Chad Qualls
70
4
3
3.50
1.29
7.97
Set-up Tony Pena
75
4
4
3.85
1.23
6.72
7th inn.
Jon Rauch
69
4
4
3.84
1.28
7.70
LOOGY Scott Schoeneweis
48
2
3
4.71
1.60
6.00
Long Relief Yusmeiro Petit
117
6
7
4.74
1.32
7.15
Relief Billy Buckner
77
3
5
4.71
1.42
6.70
Relief Doug Slaten
47
2
3
4.44
1.42
6.60

 

Yusmeiro Petit, today's starter is the favorite for the long relief role, though Juan Gutierrez still has a longshot chance for the role.  Billy Buckner will probably be the mop-up reliever, and Doug Slaten is battling with Travis Blackley for the last spot.  Once Tom Gordon returns from injury, he'll take that spot.  That's a pretty solid bullpen.


Why the Diamondbacks will win the NL West:

This is the most balanced team in the division.  Their entire pitching staff just might be the best in the division, and their offense is competitive if not spectacular.  For a team with very few question marks, a step forward for some of their young hitters could be enough to push them to the top.


Why the Diamondbacks will NOT win the NL West:

They might be balanced, but the line-up will still rank near the top of the league in strikeouts and is still relatively weak.  To wit: Arizona's #3 hitter, Stephen Drew has a lower projected wOBA than EVERY projected Rockies starter except Clint Barmes.  Then consider their cleanup hitter (and best hitter overall)) failed to hit a home run in his last 201 at-bats last year.  Not a misprint - his last one was July 27.  The offense will be improved as a whole but it still won't be enough to compete with other NL West teams with more flash.

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The Padres are absolutely the antithesis to Arizona.  San Diego has more question marks in the last week of the spring than I've seen from any team in a long time.  They are going to be bad.  Very very bad. 

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Lineup:

The core of the lineup is set with Giles, Gonzalez, Kouzmanoff, Headley and Hundley down the middle.

Order Player Position AB BA HR RBI OBP SLG wOBA
1 Jody Gerut CF 381
.278
13
45
.348
.449
.350
2 David Eckstein
2B
461
.269
4
32
.337
.347
.310
3 Brian Giles RF
512
.266
12
60
.371
.398
.346
4 Adrian Gonzalez 1B 554
.283
28
91
.359
.500
.373
5 Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B 487
.273
20
76
.324
.458
.341
6 Chase Headley
LF
488
.258
14
61
.342
.410
.335
7 Nick Hundley
C
416
.224
14
61
.284
.375
.292
8 Luis Rodriguez
SS
291
.261
3
24
.332
.351
.309

 

The unproven Luis Rodriguez could get bumped in favor of Adrian Gonzalez' brother Edgar.  If so, David Eckstein would slide over to shortstop.  Jody Gerut's sole competition is the man that almost prevented Rocktober:  Scott Hairston.

This line-up would be expected to produce 4.443 runs/game as constructed (or a max of 4.543 with optimal orientation).  This equates to 719.8 total runs during the season.  That means the Padres have the worst line-up in the division, although they trail San Francisco by just .005 runs/game.

You know the drill.  Let's look at wOBA.  From that we can conclude that the starting lineup features zero elite hitters, one very good hitter (Gonzalez), two above average hitters (Giles, Gerut), two average hitters (Kouzmanoff, Headley), two below average hitters (Rodriquez, Eckstein) and one terrible hitter (Hundley). Their line-up has a wider variety of hitters than the Giants' line-up, but it is still just as bad.  They'll need some surprises up the middle to be a threat.


Bench:

Former Rockie Henry Blanco was signed to back up the young Nick HundleyEdgar Gonzalez and Scott Hairston are guaranteed bench spots if they don't crack the line-up.  San Diego also signed Cliff Floyd, who has switched from being the DH for the AL champion Rays to being stuck on the bench for likely the league's worst team.

Player Position AB BA HR RBI OBP SLG wOBA
Henry Blanco C 193
.223
4
22
.275
.321
.268
Everth Cabrera IF 195
.205
2
10
.260
.259
.247
Edgar Gonzalez IF 300
.266
5
33
.325
.381
.314
Scott Hairston OF 333
.249
16
45
.322
.453
.338
Cliff Floyd OF/1B 244
.246
9
36
.333
.407
.330

 

Of interest to Rockies fans, Everth Cabrera indeed looks to have a roster spot lined up after the Padres traded Chris Burke yesterdayMatt Antonelli, Emil Brown and Will Venable will see playing time throughout the season as well.

 

Rotation:

Jake Peavy will be the Opening Day starter for the fourth straight year.  Chris Young tries to return to 2007 form after an injury-riddled 2008, but CHONE is buying none of that.  Cha Seung Baek, average at best, was supposed to be the #3 starter, though he is injured and may start the season on the DL.

Player IP W L FIP WHIP K
Jake Peavy 177
12
8
3.40
1.19
175
Chris R. Young 114
6
6
4.45
1.32
95
Cha Seung Baek 98
5
5
4.17
1.30
67
Kevin Correia 100
6
5
3.61
1.30
81
Walter Silva No
pr
oje
ction
s avai
lable

 

Nothing is guaranteed past that.  Kevin Correia is the favorite to be the fourth starter based on his experience, even though he's mostly been a bullpen arm in his career.  The fifth starter job is absolutely wide open. Walter Silva, a 32-yo RHP San Diego purchased from the Mexican League, is the favorite currently for the #5 spot. Josh Geer, who had a five-start cameo last year, might fill that role eventually, although he was cut last Monday.  Cesar Ramos might even get the nod despite posting an abysmal 1.60 WHIP and 5.29 ERA in his first year at AAA in 2008. The Padres did sign Shawn Hill, though it remains to be seen what his role will be.  He might slip into the rotation while Baek is out.

Read between the lines...this is the worst rotation Petco Park has seen, and it won't get any better if/when Peavy is traded.

 

Bullpen:

If the rotation is a bad traffic collision, the bullpen is the Hindenburg.  Now that Hell's Bells will no longer ring at Petco, the closer position will be filled by Trevor's most recent set-up man, Heath Bell, who figures to be solid in that role.  Cla Meredith slides up to the set-up man, and the former Met and Dodger Duaner Sanchez is in line for late inning work.  The Mets let Sanchez go; he hasn't been the same since a 2006 taxicab accident.

Role Player IP W L FIP WHIP K/9
Closer Heath Bell 75
5
3
3.21
1.21
8.76
Set-up Cla Meredith 74
5
3
3.48
1.26
6.57
7th inn.
Duaner Sanchez
42
4
2
3.77
1.36
7.13
LH Relief
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
Relief Mike Adams
65
4
3
3.33
1.23
9.00
Relief Shawn Hill
76
4
5
4.13
1.41
5.53
Relief Cesar Ramos 141
7
9
5.12
1.52
4.59

 

After that, your guess is as good as anyone's.  Some have reported as many as four bullpen spots will be filled through waivers.   Mike Adams may find himself a bullpen spot.  Former Rockie Justin Hampson and Rule 5 pick from the Yankees Ivan Nova were placed on waivers last week, as was Jae Kuk Ryu, claimed by the IndiansJoe Thatcher was also cut, so two LHP from the bullpen last year won't be there to start.   The Padres acquired RHP Luke Gregorson to complete Khalil Greene trade and  Eulogio de la Cruz, who was bought from the Marlins last week could find a bullpen or rotation spot.  UPDATE:  Ivan Nova was returned to the Yankees.

Getting the picture?  It's true...one week until Opening Day, and the Padres bullpen is not even half resolved.  What a disaster.  Keep an eye on the waiver wire - many pitchers ousted at the end of Spring Training could find a home in San Diego, including Juan Morillo or Baltimore RHP Hayden Penn, if the O's are careless.


Why the Padres will win the NL West:

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Why the Padres will NOT win the NL West:

Going into 2008, the Giants were nearly the unanimous choice to finish last in the NL West.  But given their solid rotation, it was easy to imagine a scenario where they would surprise.  That is NOT the case with the Padres.

They have the division's worst lineup, a suspect bench, their worst rotation this decade, and an abominable bullpen.  Not only do they have no chance of winning the division, but you have to wonder if there's a chance they could avoid 100 losses.

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Nice work.

Waiting for DBS to rip your analysis if DBacks hitters (which is spot on). It’ll be interesting to see if Upton can turn the corner this year.

On another note – LA improved their bullpen a little here.

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by Hizilla on Mar 30, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Actually,

I can’t really find anything there to argue with. Our lineup is almost all about potential.

I don’t think Reynolds, CY and Upton will strike out at quite the same rate this season, though. That was a point of emphasis going into this year.

If I were doing the analysis, I might have mentioned our bullpen, though, as a point of weakness.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

We'd

all appreciate it if they do not reach that potential.

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by Hizilla on Mar 30, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wrote the Diamonbacks analysis after the Padres one

which made Arizona’s pen look like an All-Star team. The bullpen has more suspicious characters than any facet of the team, but I’d be pretty comfortable with the back end, and with the innings eaters in the rotation, the bullpen is less critical than the average team.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 30, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

All good points.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Qualls as closer

I don’t know about that.. Maybe he’s now more consistent than when I first saw him a lot w/ the Astros. He was good Chad/bad Chad, sort of like JDLR. The good Chad was very, very good. The bad Chad was a HR waiting to happen, which it frequently did. My take on him was always that he had great movement on his fastball, making it indistinguishable from the slider to hitters. But the downside was, he couldn’t control the movement, and too many of them moved into the heart of the strike zone or hit batters in key situations.

I didn’t see him much at all last year, so he may well have improved. But I’ll be noting with interest mid-season how many late-game HR’s he’s served up.

No records in the last 10 years should count.

by Maris6161 on Mar 30, 2009 6:54 PM MDT reply actions  

ERA+ last year

of 164, highest of his career, despite pitching at Chase. 1.072 WHIP, also his best ever. Better ERA+ and WHIP than Valverde. (126 and 1.181, respectively)

Lost his first 6 or so decisions of the year, despite allowing two earned runs in the first 8 weeks or something ridiculous like that. (Stupid crappy defense…) Had a really rough patch where batters hit over .300 off him when runners were on base.

Did solidly as our closer down the stretch, when Lyon imploded.

I’m comfortable with him as our closer, but I’m also of the mind that your 8th inning setup man should probably be your best reliever.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

But your 8th inning set-up man pitched today like we expected Jason Marquis to :)

I like Qualls. I really didn’t agree with the decision to give Lyon the closer job last year, and he proved me right. It’s not as if Arizona is the only team that will open 2009 with a different closer than was the primary closer in 2008. Only the Giants have continuity there.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 30, 2009 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Qualls

because, as a groundball guy, he fits in well at Chase — like Webby.

Then again, Schilling always pitched fine as well, despite the homers.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why the Diamondbacks will NOT win the NL West:

That one team in Denver will be better.

Dex knows.....

by The Lodo Magic Man on Mar 30, 2009 9:26 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

By lineup and bullpen, yes

But Arizona’s rotation is easily better. If they get an injury and we get a surprise in the rotation, we could easily bypass them. if

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 30, 2009 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

"Easily bypass" us?

It’s only happened twice. Thrice if you want to count 2007 based on postseason success.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

What does the past have to do with 2009?

I just said if you get a rotation injury and we get surprises in the rotation (like Morales), we could potentially finish better. That’s two big "if"’s don’t you think?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 30, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, true.

Past performance is usually the best predictor of future achievement, that’s all…. honestly, I’m just needling you. Like pierzynskirules.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 30, 2009 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, we're back on needles now? Sure you want to do that?

Past performance IS the best predictor of future achievement, but I don’t buy historical data as much. Matt Williams and Curt Schilling surely have no bearing now ;-)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 31, 2009 12:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

Winning tradition. ;-)

Besides, Matty is a minority owner in the team now, so he certainly has bearing. And Schilling is a Valley native.

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 31, 2009 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

I figured as such

Thanks for the update. Speaking of Ivan Nova, I’ve never heard of a Dominican with such a Russian sounding name :)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Mar 31, 2009 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s Cuban?

"Never fall in or out of love too early in the Spring." ~ Tony La Russa

by Charlie77 on Mar 31, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Vladimir Guerrero?

"Scott, are you evil, or are you really happy?"

by kishi on Mar 31, 2009 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good call

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by DbacksSkins on Mar 31, 2009 1:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

His parents met during the Cuban Missle Crisis.

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by Franchise26 on Mar 31, 2009 6:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

How About

Vladimir Guerrero?

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by websoulsurfer on Apr 21, 2009 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

People think they know what they are talking about

 when they say the Padres can’t hit and they are very wrong.

No one can hit well in Petco. It is not just the Padres. But park adjust those batting figures and they are as good as or better than the teams in the ML West.

When you park adjust the offense at home the Padres were actually better than the Giants, Diamondbacks and Dodgers. Obviously the Rockies hit well at home, but park adjusted they were not better than the Padres either.

Take a look at the Team OPS+(a park adjusted batting stat) and you get:
San Diego – 94
Los Angeles – 92
Colorado – 91
Arizona – 88
San Francisco – 83

The Padres had the same or a better BA(.260-.260), OBP .319-.317), Slg(.412-.374), HR(88-49), & Runs(348-326) than the Giants on the road.

They were also better than the Rockies BA(.260-.247), Slg(.412-.377), Runs(348-336), HR(by 20). The only offensive category the Padres trailed those two teams in was SB.

The Dodgers were a little better than the Padres in BA, Runs and OBP but hit 18 less HR and had a lower Slg %. The Diamondbacks were the worst in baseball on the road.

The Padres were actually better offensively at home, in the worst hitters park in baseball, than the Diamondbacks were on the road.

So it really pays to take a look at the stats that matter before you make your posts.

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by websoulsurfer on Apr 21, 2009 4:48 PM MDT reply actions  

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