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Friday Rockpile: Salt Lake City, the Next Great Rockies City?

The Salt Lake City Tribune explores what Charlie Monfort and Keli McGregor have been doing in Salt Lake City to promote the Rockies. Charlie Monfort wants Utahns to take road trips to Denver on the weekends:

"You can get there Friday night, see three games and get back to Salt Lake by Sunday evening," he said last week.

We've recently had a number of fans from Salt Lake City show up here on the Row. I'd like to find out what they (or anyone else) think the Rockies could do to grow the Salt Lake City market.

Troy Renck writes that the the starting pitching should take plenty of blame for the early season woes, because the pitchers aren't working long enough into games. As a result, the bullpen enters into unfavorable situations.

But then, as we all know, the Rockies also fail to hit with runners in scoring position. One of the players thinks a they'll find a palliative starting tonight:

"Being back home should help get us going," Tulowitzki said.

Though just hitting .143 with RISP, Garrett Atkins seems to be getting into the swing of things, but he still has plenty of room before he gets there.

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How to reach out?

Try a Salt Lake area radio affiliate. It’s nice to have them on FSN, but radio would be nice as well. Yeah, I’m old school that way.

by Ute King on Apr 24, 2009 8:02 AM MDT reply actions  

A radio feed would be good..

When I attended Dixie my Communications Professor claimed the Wasatch valley had the geography to carry one of the strongest radio signals in the country and an AM station could carry from Canada to Mexico. Jeff and Jack could reach those die-hard Boise fans and the fickle dBack fans!

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

"What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do." -Bob Dylan

by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 24, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Salt Lake City

Marketing there seems like a natural idea to me..but I’m in Denver. It kinda strikes me a little like Seattle marketing in Portland, and Dallas/Texas Rangers marketing in Oklahoma City, though Both those markets are far closer. SLC already gets Fox Sports Rocky Mountain I believe but not sure about the Rockies games on it.

I would love to see other’s takes on this one myself..and I’ll throw out a couple other discussion ideas:
1) is Salt Lake too far to be a Regional market for the Colorado Rockies?
2) Would it be beneficial over all…to have the Rockies AAA affiliate in Salt Lake City? (and would we get 5 bees for quarter if we did…ok off the wall reference)

Talk amongst yourselves….I’m feeling a little Verklempt

by Redhawk on Apr 24, 2009 8:04 AM MDT reply actions  

You would think

that SLC would be a natural fit for this team. Given the, um, wholesome nature of all of the players.

/ducks flame war

by moomacher on Apr 24, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Monforts need to understand their target market...

When the owner says:

You can get there Friday night, see three games and get back to Salt Lake by Sunday evening," he said last week.

Most Utahns are unlikely to attend a Sunday game because of religious observances. Plus it’s a long drive to Denver, across 2 mountain ranges. Why not team up with an airline to offer a Thurs-Sat Rockies package? Frontier offers a $99 direct flight that leaves at 8PM on Thursday and returns at 10:54 on Saturday night for the May 29-30 games against the Padres. If the FO could market a Rockies flight direct from SLC it would be more appealing than trying to talk fans into breaking their moral values.

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

The majority of Salt Lake Citians are not actually Mormon. The rest of the state is another matter.

"Better move your rental cars, I am about to take BP."
-Glendon Rusch

by Hizilla on Apr 24, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

According to City-data:
LDS: 83%
Catholic: 8%
Baptist: 0.8%
Methodist: 0.8%
Other: 3.7%

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's the religious population

Having lived in SLC, I can definitely attest to this.

But what percentage of the population is non-religious, or at least non-practicing?

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

5 bees for a quarter....

….we didn’t have any white onions because of the war….

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on Apr 24, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

HA

I thought that too, and then looked it up. Apparently there used to be nickels with a bee on one side, so a nickel was known for awhile as a “bee”

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

That one was right in my wheelhouse.

Now if only I could get 5 beers for quarter…

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on Apr 24, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jayson Stark of ESPN gives 3 reasons why the Padres are the surprise team of 2009

And his three reasons are:

1. New bullpen
2. David Eckstein
3. New hitting coach

Gee none of those things are meaningless or anything.

I’d just break it down to

1. Sample Size
2. Sample Size
3. Sample Size

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 8:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Strength of schedule?

"Better move your rental cars, I am about to take BP."
-Glendon Rusch

by Hizilla on Apr 24, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

2009 Rays?

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Road series vs Mets and Phils?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 24, 2009 9:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

My point is that it's an unsustainable pace they're setting

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

How about:

SD NL Team Ranking
Hitting
Avg – 5th – .267
OBP – 6th – .337
SLG – 7th – .421
(COL 12th in Avg, 13th in OBP, 5th in SLG)

Pitching
ERA – 4th – 3.93
WHIP – 3rd – 1.32
Saves – 1st – 7
(Col 15th in ERA, 16th in WHIP, Saves tied for 7th with 7 teams)

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

How about it's two weeks?

Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.

by Franchise26 on Apr 24, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

You mean..Gasp!

Kevin Euclis “The Greek God of Walks” isn’t going to finish the season hitting .429 with a .750 Slg pct?

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, but Zack Greinke will finish with a 0.00 ERA.

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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.

by Franchise26 on Apr 24, 2009 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha Euclis

It’s Youkilis, but that particular misspelling is hilarious, seeing how Euclis ~ Euclid and he’s the Greek God of Walks

unless that was the joke

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's from LaRussa's 3 Nights in August..

I stole it from Buzz Bissinger’s account of Moneyball.

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Noticed you changed you sig line.

He only got two hits last night. I think he’s slowing down.

Listen, this signature line is a big part of who I am.

by frightened inmate #2 on Apr 24, 2009 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

top 10 BABIP as well

But at .311, it isn’t unsustainably high.

They also have a 22+% LD%, so they’re actually hitting the ball well. I imagine they’ve taken advantage of early-season pitching jitters.

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm not quibbling with you at all

Their pace is undoubtedly unsustainable…I’m just pointing out their schedule isn’t exactly weak.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 24, 2009 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

I will stab you

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by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

That seems unwarranted :)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 24, 2009 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

“Being back home should help get us going,” Tulowitzki said.

Do the Rockies play home games? It’s been so long since I’ve seen them play in a home series, not sure I would recognize their home uni’s.

Ef you baldo try Hair-Be Dere!!

by Charlie77 on Apr 24, 2009 10:18 AM MDT reply actions  

A couple of things...

1 – Salt Lake City needs Rockies games on the radio. We get every game on FSNRM which is good, but I think more people would become fans of the team if they were able to listen on the radio as well.

2 – If Boston were Denver and the Rockies were the Red Sox, there would already be a ton of Rockies fans in SLC.

3 – I make the trip several times a year, and it isn’t that bad. That said, I agree with whoever came up with the airline package idea. I would go 10 times a year, at least, if they came up with a good enough price.

4 – Get the Rockies’ AAA team out of Colorado Springs and bring them to Salt Lake!

"What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do." -Bob Dylan

by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 24, 2009 11:27 AM MDT reply actions  

honestly

If they want the fan base from SLC, then move the sky socks to the city. So SLC has some ties to the rockies organization.

by Jester76 on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

You need to slow down with your #4

We have many Rox fans in CS and we would be pretty upset of they take away the Sky Sox. You should see the place when a player is rehabbing here, pretty packed, and $2 Tuesday, you don’t want to take that away from us either. I’m not sure there are enough fans of the Rox in SLC to get excited about some of the players rehabbing. When Helton was here it was crazy.

Also, anyone going to $2 Tuesday on April 28th? I think Hynick is pitching, so it might be interesting to see him pitch.

It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

by smokinRox on Apr 24, 2009 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

the Bees are already there as the AAA affiliate of the LAAA

"Better move your rental cars, I am about to take BP."
-Glendon Rusch

by Hizilla on Apr 24, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can attest, though

Having a minor league team in a city is helpful to the big league club for attracting fans from that city. Memphis is a big Cardinals market, largely because the Cardinals’ AAA team is there. It was a fairly strong market for the Cardinals before that, but it really stemmed the tide of everybody becoming Braves fans. Are there a lot of Angels fans in Salt Lake City?

by Tom (RFTN) on Apr 24, 2009 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, there are a growing number of Halos fans here

and they weren’t really around much until they became Salt Lake’s parent club. I’m not trying to stir up controversy by saying the Rox should leave the Springs, I just want them here for my own selfish reasons. Though, if they are serious about taking over the Salt Lake market, it wouldn’t be too far-fetched of an idea – mostly because our AAA team is routinely toward the top of the minors in attendance.

"What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do." -Bob Dylan

by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 24, 2009 4:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Anybody going to tonight's game?

I’ll be in section 332.

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
Aut Vincam Aut Periam

by PioneerSkies on Apr 24, 2009 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

I am

Probably ~330ish.

FREE MATT MURTON

by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is not true

Apparently there aren’t 4 seats together. How odd.

FREE MATT MURTON

by Andrew Martin on Apr 24, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

AAA isn't the only option...

You have the Orem Owlz (the Z on the end makes them extreme), and the Ogden Raptors (S on the end – not as extreme) of the Pioneer League. I would love it if the team went after one of those markets, in lieu of Casper.

My son and I try to get out for at least three or four weekends a year. We went out for Game Four of the World Series a couple years ago. Denver is the most natural professional sports city for SLC to follow, with the exception of the NBA.

The Broncos have the largest portion of NFL fans here, IMO. The 49ers (I guess, because of Steve Young) are probably second. But the reason the Broncos are semi-popular is that they’re on TV almost every Sunday here. Does anyone in SLC know what portion of SLC households have FSRM? I have always had DirecTv (because of NFL Sunday Ticket), so I just watch it on that. But I grew up a Yankees fan (until 1993) – the main reason for that was their games on Channel 2.

by DomCasual on Apr 24, 2009 2:57 PM MDT reply actions  

FSNRM is available on Comcast, Dish, and DirecTV...

So I’m sure quite the large number of households have it.

"What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do." -Bob Dylan

by Bryan Kilpatrick on Apr 24, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

TV
But I grew up a Yankees fan (until 1993) – the main reason for that was their games on Channel 2.

This type of thing is extremely common. I have a cousin who grew up in Rock Spring, WY, and is a Braves fan because of TBS. I’m glad most Rockies games are on FSRM, but others’ points above about a radio affiliate are excellent, too, as is the idea of flight/hotel packages (which from that article it sounds like the Monforts are efforting).

by holly96 on Apr 24, 2009 3:58 PM MDT reply actions  

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