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Around SBN: Miikka Kiprusoff Wins 300th Game, Buffalo Crushes Boston

Chris Iannetta remains dreamy with grand slam, but Rockies fall 11-15 to the Astros.

This game featured a bucketload of fail for the pitchers. I mean, Jason Marquis (-.468 WPA) allowed nine runs on ten hits and three walks in 3 2/3 innings, and Glendon Rusch stayed in to save the bullpen by allowing six runs in 2 2/3 innings. Twenty four hits by Astros batters.

Anything good happen? Chris Iannetta hit a grand slam, his second of the year! He is so dreamy! Ian Stewart hit a two-run homer, his seventh, in the second inning. Ryan Spilborghs led that inning off with a triple and then scored on a Brad Hawpe single.

Oh, Troy Tulowitzki left the game with an elbow contusion and will be reevaluated tomorrow.

For the novelty of it, three runs were scored in each of the first seven innings.

Garrett Atkins: 0-4, 2 K.

The Rockies are now 13-19.

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via www.fangraphs.com

Thanks to Poseidon's Fist, holly96, Rox Girl, Tom (RFTN), The Lodo Magic Man, walkoff59, ES46NE10, dogs, Jabberwocky, fantasyfencing, Business Socks, Teekalong, WolfMarauder, Chrysicat, Rockie4Ever, frightenedinmate#2, OrangeTorpedo, Rocktober 2007, Maris6161, El Paso Jeff, ALrockies, nodakroxfan, free7694, blakestlubers25, Purp McGirt, MohrPlease, xxxpickemgenius, Sandlotkid8, Charlie77, Redhawk, DbacksSkins, moomacher, indianrox, TuLoRocks2008, smokinRox for taking part in some or all of the terrible game.

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Ian Stewart

is now The Demon Bomber of Blake Street. CDI is The Dreamy Bomber of Blake Street.

Not much else to say after this one. Fire sale, anyone?

The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul

by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

but I want to keep Brad Hawpe

He’s a hero

Matt Murton status: Freed
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by Andrew Martin on May 13, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't try to argue with that.

The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul

by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

And I want to keep Ubaldo.

I mean, we can’t blame the guys who didn’t pitch for this one, right?

by Tom (RFTN) on May 13, 2009 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very true

Everyone else is suspect, however.

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by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Doh

Everyone else but the Demon and Dreamy barbers, that is.

The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul

by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

and the cook?

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
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by Andrew Martin on May 13, 2009 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mrs. Lovett has to go

I’m convinced that the Rox have been eating too many meat pies.

Mr. Cook, can stay. He may not be great, but I really like the guy.

The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul

by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL

But at least the Toddfather isn’t stinking up the joint, like some.

/cough cough/ Garrett McFailure Facepalm /cough cough/

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by rockhead on May 13, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend's cat

isn’t OPSing .927

Matt Murton status: Freed
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by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 8:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's because

it’s not in heat

Jim Zorn, 55. Sean Miller, 40. AJ Hinch, 34. Notice a pattern here?

by DbacksSkins on May 14, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Brandon Webb

disagrees.

Jim Zorn, 55. Sean Miller, 40. AJ Hinch, 34. Notice a pattern here?

by DbacksSkins on May 14, 2009 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Brandon Webb can disagree all he wants

From the DL

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by Andrew Martin on May 15, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, I turned it off at like 815

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
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by Andrew Martin on May 13, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

I hope some of you are Nuggets fans too

Because I gotta tell you, I didn’t see one minute of this game, and the way the Nuggets played tonight makes me give way less of a damn about the result tonight.

Although I did laugh at Glendon Rusch’s stat line, since it’s a rough approximation of what I always imagined it would look like if I ever took the mound against big league hitters. 12 hits in 2.2 IP? Any injuries reported after the fight at the Astros bat rack broke out?

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by Franchise26 on May 13, 2009 10:23 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes this...

I am a hard core Rockies fan, but I had to focus on the Nuggets tonite. The Nuggets make me feel good about life..it gives me hope for the Rockies even this year.

I live and die with the Colorado Rockies and the Denver Nuggets...

by AtkinsandTulofan on May 13, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lovin' the Nugs

on offense, but they are really going to have to pick up the D against the Lake Show. Its Nene time.

by Teekalong on May 14, 2009 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

I also missed this game

I think it might be the only time in my life I’m glad I missed a game where we scored 11 runs

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 6:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Nuggets make me feel like should lock my car doors and roll up the windows

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don't disagree

but apparently they have that effect on their opponents too. Whatever wins games right? We need Wild Thing

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Whereas the Rox

make me feel like I should ask them if I can borrow some brown sugar and a barry manilow cd. Sometimes attitude, arrogance and aggression are good things in sports. Most of the time.

by Teekalong on May 14, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just meant they look like a bunch of criminals

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

the jazz don't look like a bunch of criminals

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying just because a guy has tatoos doesn't mean he's a criminal.

I know you’re not saying they actually are criminals, but it’s stereotyping based in appearance. Besides, Chauncey Billups has tatoos (though not as many as some of the other Nuggets) and he’s the farthest thing from a criminal as you can get.

And I don’t even like tatoos.

by holly96 on May 14, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

But

he has a dumb name

Jim Zorn, 55. Sean Miller, 40. AJ Hinch, 34. Notice a pattern here?

by DbacksSkins on May 14, 2009 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's not just the tattoos

It’s the fact that like half the team has been fined or suspended or convicted of some sort of violence, horrible misconduct, drug possession, etc, etc

There’s a reason people call them the Thuggits.

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 15, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's a total exaggeration.

Fines and suspensions for on-court stuff happen to every team. So ignore that. We’ve got no Ron Artest, melee in the Palace, situations. And as far as I know not a single one of them has been convicted of any violent crime, or even charged. Yes, some of them of have made mistakes in the past, but so have plenty of other players on plenty of other teams.

Sorry, I know I’m being defensive. But it just bothers me when people draw conclusions about someone’s character based on a couple mistakes (and then extend that to an entire team). It just seems to me like an easy and unfair slur made by fans of opposing teams based only loosely on any sort of reality.

by holly96 on May 15, 2009 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

this is really my fundamental problem with the NFL and NBA

Yes, MLB has a few problems, but you never hear of as many as you do with these two leagues. The Nuggets just seem to exemplify that in recent years.

Where have you gone, Bird, Jordan, Stockton, and Malone

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 15, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to argue on that, as that's a separate, larger point and I don't necessarily disgaree.

Although I think it’s very much tied to larger societal problems and the demographics of the players in the different leagues.

But on the Nuggets specifically, I guess I just don’t see how they exemplify that. Carmelo has had a couple blips, and Andersen was suspended for two years (which happened when he wasn’t with the Nuggets, and he really seems to have turned his life around). But to act like the entire team or even most of the team is always in trouble is disingenuous.

I think maybe I just despise the term “thug” to begin with, at least when applied so loosely and liberally. It has an extremely negative (and sometimes racial) connotation and, in my opinion, should only be used for the most obvious of criminals.

But yeah, this is obviously way off topic so beyond that I’ll agree to disagree.

by holly96 on May 15, 2009 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well this is a dead wrap thread so it's kind of our game now

My specific bias is obviously gonna come based on being in Denver and hearing so much more about Nuggets screwups moreso than other teams’ players.

I just know it isn’t only me calling them the Thuggits. I’m a Jazz fan, so I mostly do it to get Denver fans all riled up, but it kind of goes hand in hand.

Denver fans may not be Chicago fans or Boston fans, but I find a lot of their behavior pretty classless and I really do feel it reflects the team they’re watching.

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 15, 2009 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know you're not the only one.

I think that’s why I got so into disagreeing with you. I’ve seen it plenty of other places, but there I was mostly a lurker and wouldn’t feel as comfortable getting into it with someone. So I guess you sort of became the representative of everyone everywhere who’s made similar comments. Sorry about that.

And I do agree it could be a factor of hyperawareness of one team over others, especially when you’re not a fan of that team and aren’t inclined to give them the benefit of a doubt. Coincidentally I think that’s actually why I hate the Jazz as much as I do. Not because of screw-ups, just because of exposure. I was never going to be a fan since they’re in the same division as the Nuggets, but my four years in Utah really pushed me over the edge. I could barely handle hearing so much about them, especially since they’re the only game in town and people there live and die with the Jazz to (to me) a supremely annoying degree. But that’s a totally other story.

As for Denver fans, I can’t speak on fans at games since I haven’t been to one in at least 10 years. But I’m not sure how you can compare Denver fans to, say, Detroit fans, who basically started and escalated the situation there. Even Jazz fans aren’t exactly known for being soft and cuddly.

And, while certainly only anecdotal evidence, I did read that the Mavs coaches and players were actually surprised by how little abuse they received from fans at Game 5. They were prepared for it to be brutal, but got almost nothing the entire game and there were no incidents. Contrast that to the atmosphere in Dallas for Game 4, about which George Karl said it was probably the most uncomfortable and unsafe he’s ever felt at an NBA game.

Anyway, I obviously don’t have enough info to knowledgeably argue about how Denver fans act at games other than what I see on tv, which hasn’t been anything bad. But the people I know that are Nuggets fans (granted, mostly people here on the Row and my family) are far from classless and wouldn’t act in a classless way at a game.

I’ll just close my mammoth comment by saying that I get trying to rile up opposing fans (it obviously works), but I still don’t think it’s fair to judge an entire team by a few discretions that are pretty minor compared to some other athletes (there are no Michael Vicks or Maurice Claretts or even Ray Lewises on the team) and especially compared to society as a whole. Neither of us know any of these guys personally, but from what I’ve seen, none of them are bad people, and I’m certain Billups is not the only one of them that is in fact a really good person (he’s just the one we hear the most about). I would say the same about any other team, too, since I think in general most people are good, even if they make mistakes.

by holly96 on May 15, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's okay, Purple Row readers can handle Wall of Text comments

Maybe we’re not so trained in it as Snakepit readers, but we abide. Besides, you’ve got a quality rant here.

by Rox Girl on May 15, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Heh

Hopefully it’s no tl;dr (ahoy, Internet lingo). I at least tried to break up the paragraphs, since super long paragraphs are what really make for a unmanageable Wall of Text post.

And hey, it’s been awhile since I’ve had a good rant.

by holly96 on May 15, 2009 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Text from my friend, a Cubs fan:

“Welcome to the other side of the Jason Marquis Experience.”

Pretty hard to argue with that.

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by Franchise26 on May 13, 2009 10:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Having seen the 2006 Cardinals

I was wondering when we would get that.

by Tom (RFTN) on May 13, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 13, 2009 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be fair

This game was awful, to be sure. But for the most part, Marquis wasn’t getting lit up or anything. Of the ten hits he gave up, nine of them were singles. Hits were just falling in the right places. The problem was that the Astros strung together a bunch of them in a row. Nights like this will happen.

by Tom (RFTN) on May 13, 2009 10:33 PM MDT reply actions  

I was shocked when I looked at the box score

and saw zero homers allowed

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 6:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

I also was

It’s not good to see “OMG HITS” and the subpar K:BB, but it seems like he just got the shaft last night.

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 8:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dang

I just checked my post count and I hit 2000 in the game thread without realizing it. This was number 2000. Funny how it was basically a comment about not paying attention to the game.

by holly96 on May 13, 2009 10:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Congrats!

Makes you feel any better, I totally missed my 30,000th Snakepit comment, my 5,000th Purple Row comment, (I think?) and my 40,000th SBN comment overall.

:-(

Jim Zorn, 55. Sean Miller, 40. AJ Hinch, 34. Notice a pattern here?

by DbacksSkins on May 14, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't watch nearly any of this game

Due to the Nuggets being on tonight. But, wow, 15 runs? That is completely unacceptable regardless of who is pitching. This team desperately needs a 5-6 game winning streak to get going. Unfortunately they may be too inconsistent to pull anything like that off which is gigantically frustrating. I really, really want something to believe in I am just not seeing it at all this year. Please don’t make this a long, gruesome summer Rockies. All I want is a decent baseball team.

by Business Socks on May 14, 2009 1:19 AM MDT reply actions  

If we are going to go on a streak...

… this is a good time to do it. A win today would be a nice lead-in to the series against the Pirates. Even with two straight wins against the Cards in the past 2 days, they’ve dropped 12 of their last 15, including a streak of 8 losses in a row.

by RockiescastScott on May 14, 2009 8:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Score

I assume we went for the 2 point coversion after the TD in order to get to 11 points? It sucks to have five field goals beat you.

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by kosmo on May 14, 2009 7:16 AM MDT reply actions  

The urge is rising

to take out Atkins’ knees with whatever object is nearby.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 8:38 AM MDT reply actions  

seriously, I mean "yay walk"

but he grounded out weakly to the left what, 3 of his 4 ABs?

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well he did make 3 outs on GO to 3rd

but two were from a GIDP. And two K’s. He’s far worse than Willy.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

The masochist in me

read the DP comments from the “running out of time” link. Just one comment:

“Trade him now for a pitcher.” Made me laugh.

OK, I have one of the minor droids that was in Star Wars for 2 minutes on the Jawa transport, I would like to trade him for Han, Luke, Chewy, and the Millenium Falcon.

Listen, this signature line is a big part of who I am.

by frightened inmate #2 on May 14, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

NO ATKINS IS WORTH A FRON

FRONT LINE STARTER

DID YOU SEE HIS 2006 HE WAS MBP MATERIAL LOCK HIM UP OCLOWN

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 14, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

I LOL'd.

Jim Zorn, 55. Sean Miller, 40. AJ Hinch, 34. Notice a pattern here?

by DbacksSkins on May 14, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Iannetta the special boy

I just noticed that last night’s HR was just his second at Coors, with five on the road. What’s more – all but one would have been a HR in every MLB park. He’s not getting cheated. Still waiting on some right-center shots, but they will come.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 14, 2009 12:51 PM MDT reply actions  

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