Rockies bullpen fails again, team suffers 6-8 loss
And so it shall come to pass that when the Rockies turn to their bullpen the opposing team scores runs. Lots of runs.
Or as WolfMarauder put it:
Rockies Bullpen = runs
by WolfMarauder on May 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT
The graph explains it all:
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I would love for some of you stat-hounds (good title) to search and find out
how many called third strikes we’ve taken. I’m betting we’re close to leading the NL if not MLB. My feeling is that Hurdle has harped on patience to wait on the right pitch so much, it’s hurt the teams ability to put the bat on the ball.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
Well
I looked it up. We’ve k’d looking 32% of the time this year (68% of k’s are swinging). This leaves us tied with the Mets and the Dodgers for MOST looking k’s in the NL. League average is 26%. After the three teams tied at 32%, the next closest teams are the Nats and the DBacks at 28%. The Padres and the Giants come in at 26% and 25% respectively.
However, the Rockies also lead the National League in pitches per plate appearance with 3.99. League average is 3.84. The Dodgers are 5th and the Mets are 8th in pitches per plate appearance (with 3.93 and 3.88 respectively).
The Rockies have been thrown strikes 61% of the time with the league average being 62% of the time. Note however that the range of this stat is extremely small (60%-64%). The top four teams who’ve been thrown the least amount of strikes also includes the Dodgers and the Mets (along with the Brewers).
Great information
Thanks for looking it up. I would have guessed it would have been much higher than others. But I guess that’s just because it hurts so much when we do it. Again, thanks. Appreciate it.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
Also just for completeness
The AL average for looking k’s is 27% with Boston being the highest at 34% and the Yankees being second at striking out looking with 31%.
One more thing
What seems to be most interesting of all is that the Rockies percentage of looking strikes relative to swinging strikes/foul strikes/in play is 28%. The league average for looking strikes is 29%. Here, the Mets are first with 33% while the Dodgers are fourth with 31%.
You’d think that the team with the most looking k’s in the NL would also be up there in the most looking-strikes. I wonder exactly what this means – to borrow a page from Milton Bradley, maybe umps are cheating us (but I doubt it). Maybe we just freeze up with two strikes or something. I know I’ve seen Iannetta, who I think has a great eye get to two strikes and get called out looking a few times. And what it really comes down to is not whether it was a strike or a ball but that even on pitches that were balls 1. they were extremely close and 2. Iannetta didn’t protect the plate.
Hawpe AB
highlights what is wrong with this team. Pitcher had walked three lefties in a row, including the guy in fron of him You bring in your best clutch hitter and he swings at the first pitch and hits knubber to end the game. These guys have no baseball acumen whatsoever. In my time you would have been fined for that. Today it is just “he did’nt get the job done”. So it goes in the land where cheap, mediocre and losing is more important than winning and playing the game right.
by PinchHitLancePainter on May 27, 2009 5:07 PM MDT reply actions
couldn't agree more
it is becoming very difficult to follow this team…
11 down....5 to go for a repeat Go Wings!!!
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 27, 2009 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Didn't we just
bench Tulo for doing something similar? I knew that benching was less a solution and more some superficial managing charade.
You could give Casey Stengel himself this team and it would still suck
Which is why I’ll feel a slight twinge of pity when Clint Hurdle gets fired tomorrow. Just a prediction, baseless in nature, but you heard it here first – it’s an off-day, we’re at home, we just got swept by the Dodgers. It’s now or never.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
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Nope, you heard it here second
I actually predicted this in this week’s prediction thread.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
I'll feel a slight twinge of pity, too.
Partly for the same reason as you, but partly also because I like Hurdle as a person, and I can’t ever be happy about someone losing their job.
But that being said, doesn’t mean I don’t think it should happen.
I don't think....
anyone is gonna feel real good about it. For one thing, he’s only a piece of the problem — and maybe not that big a piece. For another, he seems like a genuinely decent guy.
But this really can’t continue as it is. And, while it pains me to say it, O’Dowd probably should join him. I’ve been a supporter of his for a long time, but it’s just not working.
The best thing that could happen to both of them: Clint gets himself a TV color analyst gig and O’Dowd gets to run a team with a big budget. I’d like to see them have a happy ending as they were really in a tough spot here/
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
Another day, another loss
I hate to say this, I really do, but it’s time for this team and the FO to get blown up. Something is horribly rotten at the corner of 20th and Blake. I’m not expecting a miracle to happen by season’s end. Just some sign that somebody actually cares and is being proactive about saving the franchise.
So. When is enough enough?
HAHAHAHA!
Oh you think another suck-fest by the bullpen’s going to get me down!? HA! I defy you! Bring it! I need more! More I say! I need ten runs allowed in the seventh, and twelve in the eighth! There’s no stopping you, and there’s no stopping me!! WOO HOO!
Fastball over the middle, nice and easy. Easy does it. Come on Corpas – no one likes a low ERA – it’s a sign of not-sucking, and God knows that’s the last thing I need warming up out there. Street is bad enough. If everyone starts pitching scoreless innings, I will freak out. I will just freak the F out! Hear me now!
"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill
While we wait for the axe, a game.....
Here’s an exercise for you long time Rockies fans. Peruse the Rockies all-time roster at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Rockies_all-time_roster for players who wore the purple pinstripes, yet you have absolutely no recollection of them. I call it “That guy was a Rockie????”
I’ve been a hardcore fan since ’93, yet even I —who has been paying close attention – find it hard to recall a lot of these guys.
Any of these dudes ring a bell?
Jim Czajkowski
Cliff Brumbaugh
Mark Corey
Craig Dingman
Mario Encarnación
Lariel González
Chris Gissell
Ryan Hawblitzel
Terry Jones
Marc Kroon
Mark Little
Sean Lowe
Andy Machado
Walt McKeel
David Moraga
Blaine Neal
Vladimir Núñez
Brian Raabe
Fred Rath (awesome name, though)
Michael Restovich
Jason Romano
Kevin Sefcik
Jesús Sánchez
Randy Williams
Bruce Walton
Pat Watkins
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
On that list I rememeber
Mark Corey
Craig Dingman
Mark Little
Blaine Neal
Michael Restovich
And I think thats it.
Lets see how well I do, from memory:
Brumbaugh I want to say was 2001 – corner outfield type. Think I saw him get a start against Anaheim in an interleague game.
Corey was 02 I think… acquired from the Mets, most famous for having a marijuana-related seizure with the Mets. (I swear that’s at least half true, there was an incident involving him, Grant Roberts, and some weed – one of the two had a bad reaction to it and I think it was Corey.) Saw him pitch in a game where Sammy Sosa hit three jacks in three at-bats, still one of the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen.
Gissell was a late 04 callup who had a decent year in the Springs that year. Hawblitzel was an inaugural Rockie.
Mark Kroon was… 05, I’m pretty sure, REAL hard thrower but could not locate the plate to save his life. Saw him in the Springs that year – he and Ryan Anderson made for one entertaining bullpen – talk about million dollar arms who could have used OnStar to find the zone.
Machado was a utilityman who played in two or three games for us in either 04 or 05 – frankly, those two years kind of run together.
McKeel was a catcher… 01 or 02 I think. I could be getting him confused with Mandy Romero, or they might have been the same person – journeyman catcher with only a handful of big-time ABs. Neal was 05, big burly reliever. Nunez was 04 and I kinda thought he might be good, but no such luck. Had a decent arm.
Restovich was either 04 or 05, corner outfielder who never got a break with the Twins, or the Rockies as it turned out.
Williams was a Rockie in 05, as generic a lefty reliever as I can remember.
I could tell you what position the rest of them were, I’m sure, but nothing else detailed about them.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
One addition:
Jim Czajkowski had 30-odd saves for the 1994 Rockies on an old version of Baseball Mogul I played WAY too much in my freshman year of college. So there’s that too.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
yeah,
I kinda recall Williams now that you mention him. And, if I recall correctly, Restovich was a big guy who looked like he should hit for power, but didn’t.
I still need someone to remember Fred Rath, though. It sounds like the name of a guy who’s an accountant by day and comic book superhero by night.
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
I'm impressed.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
Most of these
i don’t remember. But I do recall a few of these.
Corey I do he was a reliever,
Brumbaugh OF came through the Texas system I knew him from AAA OKC.
Restovich was an OF and the protypical AAAA player,
and Blaine Neal was a middle reliever, and I think he’s still bouncing around was with Florida at one time. .
But my favorite was Jason Romano. He came through the Texas Rangers organization and in the early 00’s. I think he was in Colorado 03. He was originally a 2ndbaseman. Moved to the OF. Real hustle guy with speed. First guy to get his uni dirty in AAA. Couldn’t hit major league pitching. He was a guy I hoped would make it, as I loved him when he was in OKC.
Only with the Rockies in 2002, Corey
is the proud owner of a 12.00 ERA in 16 IP and he allowed seven homers.
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Whoopsie.
That 12 IP. He allowed 16 runs,
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But he's
like most Rockies relievers: undistinguished.
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I remember
Brumbaugh, Corey (RHRP), Dingman (RHRP), Encarnación (OF from OAK), Gissell (RHRP), Kroon (RHRP), Little (OF), Lowe (RHRP), Neal (RHRP), Núñez (RHRP), Restovich (OF to PIT), Romano (OF from TX) and Sefcik (UTIL). They all are quite obscure though. I remember Encarnacion most though, since everyone was saying it was going to be okay that we traded Neifi since those to prospects would be awesome.
Funny story though…two of the players on the list (Gissell and Sanchez) combined for a no-hitter for the Sky Sox about five years ago
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on May 28, 2009 6:50 AM MDT up reply actions
If I think real hard...
I maybe recall Brian Raabe being a september call up one year. And I’m thinking Ryan Hawblitzel was a young pitcher who came up through the system.
And was Mario Emcarncion someone who came over from the A’s along with Jose Ortiz?
That’s about as far as I can really get.
It would be fun to run these past Jeff Kingery and see how many he could recall.
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
You're right about Encarnacion
It was those two and… oh, Todd Belitz, I think. For Jermaine Dye. Ouch.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
That may be how the trade is listed in some reference books...
But the Rockies never had Dye and had nothing to do with his part of the deal. They got the three A’s prospects for Neifi Perez, at the time a pretty good shortstop and Gold Glove winner. He had turned down the Rox’ multiyear contract offer and Colorado decided to go with Juan Uribe at short.
It was a three-way trade. The Royals got Neifi (where he was dreadful for several seasons) and Dye went to Oakland. Ortiz did hit three homers in a game at Coors that summer (2001) for the Rockies, but played poorly the following spring and soon disappeared. I believe Belitz gave up the last of Bonds’ three homers in a memorable September game, but otherwise made no impression.
Encarnacion played here only briefly. Tragically, he died while playing in Taiwan in 2005. The final diagnosis was a heart attack from a congenital heart disease.
Star Trek
was kickass, if somewhat sketchy on the black holes.
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I'm not a trekkie but I did enjoy that movie. I think because it explained how everyone got together.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
Trekker.
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See, I told you I wasn't one.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
I'm not one either, really.
I’m not going to frame my ticket to the movie, as I did with the tickets for the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
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You What?!!?!
Even though the first one had Jar Jar Binks? I seriously didn’t see the other two because of Jar Jar. Though I’ve been told they’re okay.
I really don't get all that hate for Jar Jar.
You must not have been around here during Spring Training when I made heads asplode because of all that Star Wars stuff I discussed in spring training game threads.
/checks if Rox Girl is going to warn him about discussing Star Wars
Don’t encourage me.
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Well I hated the teddy bears in Episode VI too.
I just hated the gimmicky-ness of Jar Jar and I’m pretty sure the movie would have done pretty well w/o him. And nah, I wasn’t around for the ST threads.
/Closes curtain on Star Wars discussion.
I enjoyed the movie..
and it was fun to see my sons enjoy it as well. I grew up watching the Trek reruns and then Next Generation and so on. I liked how they kept the technology similar to the original using hand comm devices and not significantly changing the shape of the Classic Enterprise.
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Rowcall...
is missing 4 people I think ?? (or maybe I just don’t understand how it’s calculated… I just noticed my name wasn’t in it so decided to scrape the game thread and see what was there..)
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Russ: 41
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djmbluemoon: 26
holly96: 25
RockiesDave: 22
jrockies: 19
JaySantos: 18
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FlyAway: 14
MohrPlease: 11
pedalpusher: 9
Teekalong: 8
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xxxpickemgenius: 5
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RdRnnr: 5
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BroJB: 4
wolf213: 3
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kosmo: 3
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I did the Rowcall
before the game ended since I left before it ended. Sorry about that.
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i talk too much
o well
Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies
by Andrew Martin on May 27, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Do you really talk on here or think? A deep question, I'd say (think?).
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
you're suggesting I ponder aloud?
HMMMM
yeah probably
Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies
by Andrew Martin on May 28, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Creative Destruction.
Discuss.
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That works,
though I was thinking more in Joseph Schumpeter’s and others’ concept of the term.
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Prediction:
Hurdle will not be fired.
Every few days (not just this season, but for years), somebody says, “Yup, Hurdle’s about to be fired any second now,” and the event never comes to pass. After 68293 times, I’m simply conditioned not to believe it. It’s part of my brain’s architecture.
I’ve come to believe that Hurdle will be manager for thousands of years. He’ll be the manager even after humanity has gone extinct.
Yeah....
I foresee a future where gangs of face painted hooligans in spiked shoulderpads roam the wastelands looking for petrol. And Clint Hurdle will be managing the Rockies,who by now are made up of flesh eating half zombie/half man mutations.
And they’re 20 games out of first place.
Post apocalyptic Clint : “right now, we’re not doing the zombie things we need to do, and we’re not doing the human things we need to do. We’ve got a find a way to slow the game down and do the little things.”
the reanimated head of Charlie Monfort could not be reached for comment.
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These guys?
http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/roadwarriors.jpg
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I think both of those guys got 50 game suspensions.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
Sadly
I think you may be right. Every time I think about Charlie Monfort’s quote of “wins and losses aren’t what we’re looking at” (or something very similar to that), I shudder and resign myself to HurdleLogic forever.
So. When is enough enough?
On a happier note....
….let me tell you about the baseball trip I’m taking with my 13 year old son this summer. Been waiting until he was psyched enough about baseball to finally do it and now’s the time.
We’re taking a week, and here’s our itinerary:
Day 1 – Lincoln, NE to see the Lincoln Saltdogs of the American Association
Day 2 – Omaha, NE for the Omaha (AAA) Royals
Days 3 and 4 – St. Louis to see Albert and the boys in Red.
Days 5 and 6 – Kansas City for the Royals
Day 7 – Wichita, KS for the Wichita Wingnuts of the AA
Day 8 – Colorado Springs for the Sky Sox.
I expect to come back sunburned, exhausted and clad in Wichita Wingnuts gear :)
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
I've seen the Salt Dogs play on July 4
Not a bad place to watch a game…though there really aren’t a lot of bad places for such things.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on May 28, 2009 6:51 AM MDT up reply actions
Hector Gomez to Tulsa?
In last night’s game, Gomez was pulled from the game with two outs and no runners on during the seventh inning. This was after teammate Randall Taylor struck out two batters. He left the dugout immediately and went straight to the locker room.
I hope it's that and not
“The Rockies have acquired Padres IF David Eckstein in exchange for A-ball IF Hector Gomez”
Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies
by Andrew Martin on May 28, 2009 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Heh...the FO is definitely not that incompetent
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by Andrew T. Fisher on May 28, 2009 9:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Remember when we were 4-4
The glory days where hope sprung eternal and our pitching staff’s biggest problem was that Cook got off to a bad start. Man can’t we just start the season over….
That seems so long ago.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
We were a lot better than that
We were 3-1 and had beaten Haren and Hamels..and beat up Webb
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by Andrew T. Fisher on May 28, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions

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