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Rockies one run loss curse continues, Padres walk off in tenth.

Chris Iannetta tried to save the Rockies once more, but his lead off homerun in the top of the eighth wasn't going to be enough tonight as there was no traffic ahead of him. Two innings later, the Rockies watched another team walk off with another one run victory in what's quickly become the recurring nightmare of this 2009 season.

Brian Giles played a key role in both Padres runs. Aaron Cook pitched well after giving up one run in the first inning, throwing seven scoreless innings after allowing Giles, who had led the inning off with a single, to score on a Jody Gerut sacrifice fly.

In the ninth, Alan Embree retired one of two left handed batters he faced, and then Matt Daley came on and finished a difficult task in the ninth inning. That success would be short-lived, however, as with one out in the tent, a four pitch walk to Edgar Gonzalez and a hanging pitch to Giles that turned into a deep double to right center field allowed the Padres to celebrate another walk-off victory over the Rockies.

The Rockies drop to 0-8 in one run contests in 2009, and are 10-15 overall. Brad Hawpe and Todd Helton each had two hits in the loss.

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googling "one-run games"

I like how the top 2 results are Hardballtimes and DiamondMind articles, then there’s a few entries for the Rockies.

by FooMan on May 5, 2009 11:32 PM MDT reply actions  

At least the Nuggets won

And at least they played during the Rockies game so I didn’t have to watch past the second inning. Glad to see Cook threw a great game, though – I’ll take any positive I can get from a season like this.

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by Franchise26 on May 5, 2009 11:36 PM MDT reply actions  

+1

The Nuggets are my saving grace right now. They are playing incredible basketball at just the right time. More than I can say for the Rockies and their predictable ways.

by Business Socks on May 6, 2009 12:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know what you mean

The Rockies are TERRIBLE at basketball.

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 6, 2009 12:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

OK

What does that even mean? I was responding to someone who commented about the Nuggets game. Sorry. I watched the Rockies game too for the most part. Lost in the 10th. Cook pitched really well. Couldn’t hit Geer. The Rockies are TERRIBLE at basketball? I honestly don’t know what that even means or what you’re getting out of that. Catch y’all later though. Hopefully we can get it going at Coors. I will be going Thursday afternoon with Marquis on the mound. We need to get on a run here.

by Business Socks on May 6, 2009 1:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think he was trying to be lightheartedly sarcastic based on the way your phrased your comment.
They are playing incredible basketball at just the right time. More than I can say for the Rockies and their predictable ways.

Read literally this means the Nuggets are playing incredible basketball while the Rockies are not playing incredible basketball.

by holly96 on May 6, 2009 1:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

yep

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 6, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

It hurts me

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 5, 2009 11:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Ha.

I was just about to post something to that effect.

Ugh, this is heartbreaking. At least now they can come back to Coors and have a game or two of blowout baseball.

by Justus on May 5, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

she's not alone...10th inning event

I say aloud “Daley has had a nice little start to his career.”
mkorpal punches me
Daley walked EGon on four pitches
Giles doubles.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 6, 2009 12:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why all the 1-run losses?

I think that the team collectively has no self-confidence in late-inning tight game situations. Team confidence is a fragile thing; when you have it, you can get a run like Rocktober. When you don’t, you get off to an 0-8 start in 1-run games to start a season, and go 10-15 despite outscoring opponents overall.

Who is in charge of instilling team confidence? Normally, in baseball, it’s the manager who sets to tone, builds up his players, sticks with certain lineups, and shows he has an idea of a plan. CLINT HURDLE FAILS IN ALL FOUR ASPECTS. He has publicly criticized players such as JDLR last night, saying, “We didn’t get what we wanted out of him”, or some such, despite allowing only 3 hits and 3 walks in 5+ innings. Not exactly a bad outing, but Hurdle threw him under the bus in the postgame presser.

This team has talent. We have the ability to outscore other teams. Why are we 10-15? Where is the “you gotta believe” attitude?!? It’s nowhere to be found.

Fire Hurdle ASAP.

by GoRoxGo on May 6, 2009 12:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Fire Hurdle

I couldn’t agree more…I think his candle is about to be snuffed out.

by lizardlad01 on May 6, 2009 12:32 AM MDT reply actions  

Some info on Hurdle's record

I was wondering just what Hurdle’s overall record in one-run games has been.

Including the 0-8 record so far this season, here are Hurdle’s overall records:

139.0 – 158.0 Rockies actual record in one-run games under Hurdle
137.3 – 159.7 one-run games pro-rated for H’s overall win pct. (.4622)
145.2 – 151.8 pythag record, using exponent of .865

So, Hurdle is 6.2 games below what one would expect, given James’s revised pythag, and that includes the 4 games they’re down in 2009 alone.

Some details are below in case someone is interested.

by FooMan on May 6, 2009 12:42 AM MDT reply actions  

Full post...

Here’s the original post, which got a bit long and buried the goodies at the end.
………..
I was wondering just what Hurdle’s overall record in one-run games has been.

I suspect the manager tends to get blamed/credited for performance in one-run games. The saber shorthand is that W/L records are random, because there is almost no correlation between year-year W/L records in such games. Recent research appears to be somewhere in between, though there is emphasis that there’s a lot of randomness in year-to-year W/L records.

At any rate, I figured it would be worth knowing what Hurdle’s record actually is.

After googling (I am not up on all the latest work…I’d guess this has come up on “the Book” blog), I found this Bill James article on one-run games; he builds on the work of Tom Ruane, who was behind the Diamond Mind baseball sim.

An interesting tidbit from James’s article is that w/l records in one-run games aren’t completely random; he apparently did some shape-fitting and found the pythag works if one uses an exponent of .865.

I applied this pythag to the Hurdle’s yearly records since 2002.

Including the 0-8 record so far this season, here are Hurdle’s overall records:

139.0 – 158.0 Rockies actual record in one-run games
137.3 – 159.7 one-run games pro-rated for overall win pct. (.4622)
145.2 -1 51.8 pythag record, using exponent of .865

So, Hurdle is 6.2 games below what one would expect, given James’s revised pythag, and that includes the 4 games their down in 2009 alone.

by FooMan on May 6, 2009 12:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just info...

BTW, this is meant just to provide info on Hurdle’s record in one-run games. I was curious myself. It’s not meant to be an argument either way about Hurdle’s overall effectiveness, just another data point.

by FooMan on May 6, 2009 12:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

bound to win a one run game

eventually right? yesterday’s game was such a disappointment but i can’t even feel that disappointed though after what happened to the wings yesterday awful…

5 down....11 to go for a repeat Go Wings!!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on May 6, 2009 7:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for not call me out

as I said “I remember when Giles was good” in the game thread. Between Rockies Chick and I ability to jinx (for me it only works against the teams I root for) the Rockies were cursed.

by Redhawk on May 6, 2009 8:03 AM MDT reply actions  

Jinxes are stupid for the most part

I’ll yell to knock on wood DURING a game, but nobody’s actually pointing at you two and saying “you….dirtbags….”

Matt Murton status: Freed
Garrett Atkins status: Not Traded
Clint Hurdle status: Still Employed by the Rockies

by Andrew Martin on May 6, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's nice

but (and I know this is weird) I really do feel like I’m a jinx to teams I root for….or for players on my fantasy teams.

by Redhawk on May 6, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

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