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Polar Mariners stand in the way of Rockies' season best streak

Sorry, I'm not a lit or philosophy guy.  I'm a different kind of geek.  Regarding momentum:

A body in motion stays in motion, unless it is acted on by an external force.

After sweeping consecutive NL Central leaders on the road, the Rockies have to hope that the switch to Coors Field and interleague play is too weak of a force to slow their blinding momentum and league best eight game winning streak.  Perhaps it will even be an extra boost to a team that has played more road games than any MLB club.

In the Rockies' first home interleague series, Colorado draws the Seattle Mariners.  After acquiring Erik Bedard before last season, Seattle stumbled out to the second-worst MLB record in 2008, which enabled them to draft Dustin Ackley this week.  They have bounced back this year and are currently tied for second place in the open AL West. 

Don Wakamatsu's club raced out to a 7-2 record, then coasted to a 13-9 April record.  May was on the flip side, thanks to a 1-9 stretch and an 11-18 record overall.  Seattle has rebounded to a  6-3 record in June and is on a two game win streak.

Some interesting team stats:  Seattle is a respectable 14-16 on the road.  Those 14 road wins represent the second most of any team without a winning record.  We are first, with 17 after winning eight in nine days.  Also, the Mariners have been involved in 27 one-run games.  No other MLB club has been in more than 21.  They have used it to their advantage, winning 15 of the 27, meaning exactly half of their wins have come by just one run.  Perhaps it isn't surprising, then to know that they have been outscored by 21 this year.

The Rockies are 10-13 against Seattle in interleague play history - 4-4 at home, 6-9 on the road.  We have won only two series against the Mariners in club history, one in 1997, and one coming the last time the two teams faced:  June 30-July 2, 2006.  That series will always be remembered by Josh Fogg's career performance, as he threw a CG SO while facing only 27 men.

Also, this series offers an additional excuse to check out Lookout Landing, perhaps the best MLB SBNation team blog from a statistics point-of-view.


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Seattle Mariners (30-30, W2, t-2nd) 

Friday-Sunday : 3-game series at Coors Field

The Bats: F

Bringing in Ken Griffey Jr was a popular move, but his production is not replacing their last ancient LF, Raul Ibanez, who is only the most valuable OF in the entire NL right now.  Twelve year veteran Russell Branyan is on a career pace (over 40 HR in fact) in his second season of being a full-time starter.  Ichiro will always be dangerous, but the rest of that lineup is abysmal.  And by abysmal, I mean putrid.  And by putrid, I mean absolutely god-awful.

The Mariners check in with a .310 team wOBA (the Rockies have 11 hitters higher), which is better than only Oakland and San Francisco.  Worse, they have scored the least amount of runs in MLB.  They also sport the league's worst OBP and one of the worst BB/K rates.  They don't even slug all that well - thir team SLG is worse than Dexter Fowler.

LINEUP Avg HR RBI
Ichiro - RF .360 5 17
Russell Branyan - 1B
.317 14 29
Adrian Beltre - 3B
.258 4 28
Ken Griffey Jr - LF
.215 6 16
Jose Lopez - 2B
.241 8 36
Yuniesky Betancourt - SS
.242 2 19
Franklin Gutierrez - CF
.261 3 19
Jamie Burke - C
.167 1 1

Wakamatsu's lineup could very much be in flux.  Junior has been the DH all season, so putting him in the outfield robs starts for Wladimir Balentein and Endy Chavez.  Given Jr's age and the spacious Coors OF, he figures to take a seat at least once in the series.  IF's Mike Sweeney  (former Royal) and Ronny Cedeno (former Cub) could see time as well.  With Kenji Johjima on the DL and Jeff Clement in AAA, the Mariners feature two stop-gap catchers in Jamie Burke and Guillermo Quiroz.  But we know that a stopgap catcher can still be dangerous.

 

The Arms: A-

It's hard to complain about a pitching staff that has a better ERA than any team sans the Dodgers.  The starters are doing their job, as evidenced by the Mariners having the fifth least relief appearances.  But none of the peripheral stats seem to support that low of an ERA - most barely crack the top ten.  Not surprisingly, then, they have the third largest negative split in ERA/FIP, but a 4.10 FIP is still very good.

Brandan Morrow lost his closer job mid-May after two horrific blown saves against Texas.   He has been replaced by Colorado native David Aardsma, who has 11 saves (8 as official closer) with one blown save and a sparkling 1.78 ERA.  We will luckily miss Felix Hernandez in the series, but the three starters we do draw have ERAs at 3.07 or below.

 

The D: C

Only three teams have made more errors than the 46 Seattle has committed, but they are 10th in UZR/150.

 


Probable Pitchers:

Tonight, 7:10 pm MDT


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Jarrod Washburn 3-4 3.07 1.19 50 18


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Ubaldo Jimenez 4-6 3.91 1.38 66 31


Saturday, June 13, 6:10 pm MDT


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Erik Bedard 5-2 2.47 1.16 65 22


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Jason Marquis 8-4 3.98 1.34 39 28



Sunday, June 14, 1:10 MDT


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Jason Vargas 2-1 2.35 1.20 23 10


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2009 - Jason Hammel 3-3 4.33 1.54 36 15


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For the third straight series, the Rockies draw a hot star.  Ichiro (10-for-24 last 7 days) is on fire.  Adrian Beltre (9-for-23) and Jose Lopez (8-for-24, 3 HR) are raking as well.  Yesterday, the Mariners allowed three runs in a win.  It was the first time they allowed more than two runs in any game in June.

 

IceKen Griffey Jr (3-for-19) has continued to show age recently.  Gutierrez, Cedeno, Betancourt, Chavez and Balentein are all below .154 hitting the last week as well.

 

 

Bandaid_mediumRyan Rowland-Smith (triceps), Carlos Silva (shoulder), Kenji Johima (toe), Ray Corcoran (neck) and Shawn Kelly are all on the 15-day DL.  Franklin Gutierrez (knee) and Rob Johnson (foot) are listed as questionable.

Poll
Can this streak survive the Mariners?
Yes - this team cannot be stopped right now. They are beating good teams and aces. 11 game win streak!
63 votes
No - We have to drop one eventually, but I can't see us losing this series
107 votes
No - The last week was an aberration. Our pitching can't continue their streak at Coors Field. We'll get one, but that's all.
38 votes
No - Those starting pitchers are going to shut us DOWN. Notify the bandwagon fans to return to hibernation
35 votes

243 votes | Poll has closed

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On the flip side

this will give us lit geek types plenty of excuses to bust out quotes from “Rime of the Ancient Mariner,” particularly when Griffey’s up.

I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.

by Silverblood on Jun 12, 2009 10:06 AM MDT reply actions  

I vote option B

I see us losing one game. Im guessing it will be to Bedard but we will take the series.

by purplesocks on Jun 12, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Better not be to Bedard

We have the PurpleRowBBQ that day! And we have our winnar on the mound

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jason Marquis

“He just wins!”™

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jun 12, 2009 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

i picked 2 out of 3

but i am hoping for the streak to continue…Go Rockies!

1 more win for back to back on the Pens and a repeat Go Wings!!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jun 12, 2009 10:24 AM MDT reply actions  

Me too

I worry about Hammel on Sunday, but these first two games setup nicely to extend the streak to at least double-digits!

At this point moving forward, I would be very pleased with winning 2 of every 3, but if the Rockies want to roll off another 21 of 22, I would be ok with that too!

by spartymon on Jun 12, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sunday is intriguing

Th e Rockies have actually won each of Hammel’s last four starts, and other than Marquis, he’s the only starter in the current rotation the Rockies have with a .500+ win %age with. Vargas is overperforming more than anyone in their rotation. We definitely have a shot, especially with their weak bats.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

the Rockies did win his last start at Coors

against San Diego, but it had nothing to do with Hammel. His outings at Coors Field have been really, bad so far this year. He has improved on the season, but can get a quality start in Denver???

by Redhawk on Jun 12, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

I definitely think he can

especially against this offense.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK

You helped me change my mind… Can I change my vote to “sweep”!!!

Hammel still needs to prove to me that he can put together a solid outing at Coors Field – maybe Sunday will finally be that day!

by spartymon on Jun 12, 2009 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow will be my 4th game this year

and I’ve only seen two starters….Marquis & Hammel

Listen, this signature line is a big part of who I am.

by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 12, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Same here

Except swap out Marquis with DLR

by Muzia on Jun 12, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I forget to edit out changes in my template

Thanks

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

We all know what that's like.

Remember in one of my ST game threads on the MLB board when I said we were playing boht the Athletics and the Padres at once because of that?

by Greg Stanwood on Jun 12, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lookout Landing

I was on Lookout Landing in April during the two exhibition games in LV, when the Rox and Mariners TV folks tag teamed the broadcast. Their comments were something along the line of “why is this guy still talking about food?”

One shot in the dark guess as to who it was.

Listen, this signature line is a big part of who I am.

by frightened inmate #2 on Jun 12, 2009 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

I had to pick Sweep

as I’ve picked Sweep only twice this year….that last 2 serieseses

It’s not like eating Taco Bell everyday…but you never mess with a streak

by Redhawk on Jun 12, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions  

Bedard

wow, nice comeback year by Bedard. In a contract year, no less.

We’ll miss Felix Hernandez. Good for the prospects of a win, bad for the fans, I suppose.

by FooMan on Jun 12, 2009 11:30 AM MDT reply actions  

Bedard

He’s still striking out a good number, but he’s not quite to his Baltimore levels. In fact, he’s 2K/9 behind his 2007 year. His FIP is a run higher than his ERA, but at his levels, that’s nitpicky.

Also, I would be remiss not to post this Fangraphs aricle on Jarrod Washburn’s significant improvement.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

There's a 1.5 run difference between tRA and ERA

He’s more of a flyballer, and the Seattle OF defense is fantastic right now, if you consider Chavez-Gutierrez-Ichiro

Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Washburn or Bedard?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we'll see Branyan and probably not Sweeney

Branyan’s been hitting too well to not play regularly. He crushes the souls of baseballs.

I sincerely hope we’re up 8-1 and Branyan just mashes one off of like Peralta or Flores or some pitcher we don’t like or at least don’t care about. Maybe Embree.

Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 1:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Oh Branyan will definitely start all three games

especially since DLR won’t be starting in the series. But Sweeney or Balentien (if he’s not starting) will peobably be the pinch hitter of choice against Flores or Embree

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

M's fan here

Your review of the team is fairly accurate but I have a couple of nitpicks.

One, you rate the defense as poor when in fact it is quite good with two exceptions. Specifically, each of the regular outfielders is a better than average CF, so there ain’t much dropping in between them. Beltre at third is, if not the games best 3B glove at least in the top 2, and Branyan has been good if unremarkable. The hobgoblin of the defense has been the doubleplay combo of Lopez and Betancourt, of whom the latter just doesn’t look like a major leaguer any more. But generally speaking, fielding percentage is not a great way to look at defense. Good hands are important, but good range is much more so.

The second thing you missed, and it is easy to miss if you look at ERA as an indication of pitching success, is that the team’s weakest point is in fact the bullpen. The hitting has been bad, sure, but as you mention Lopez and Beltre are turning things around which will make a world of difference for this lineup. On talent, the lineup is a tad below average. On the other hand, behind the shiny bullpen ERA are some ugly peripherals, particularly with the late inning guys. Notably, awful walk rates, low GB rates, and most tellingly, unsustainable HR rates. Each of those one run games has cost me months if not years of my life.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 12, 2009 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

UZR hates Lopez' range at 2B

But it does give it credit for a solid DP range.

It has absolutely nothing good to say about Betancourt, to the point of saying he’s been so bad already that he’s cost the team a win already. Overall he’s at -1.1 WAR.

The offense is rated at a .319 wOBA* (park adjusted), and has so far accumulated -41.4 bRAA.

Branyan and Ichiro are the only above-average players in the lineup. It’s a crying shame you guys didn’t send Jose Lopez away during the offseason while his value was high, because he’s awful now. Griffey’s just a shade below average, but the rest of the team isn’t even close.

I don’t mean to crap on the M’s, you’re absolutely right about the defensive skills. Gutt’s is fantastic in CF, and the Chavez-Gutts-Ichiro combination has been saving Washburn’s bacon this season. I know you guys don’t really buy into his ERA, but FIP and tRA both say he’s getting bailed out by good defense, and knowing his flyball tendencies, it makes perfect sense.

That all said, Felix Hernandez is a stud. Trade plz.

Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know that so far the rest of the lineup has been crap

but again, I’m focusing on talent and career trends. Beltre will be an average or so hitter by the season’s end, and Lopez will edge in that direction as well. Gutierrez is very streaky and still developing as a hitter, but so far has nothing to show for it but a fairly consistent approach at the plate….

You’re right about Lopez not looking great in the field. I’d put him at about -5 or so, and any deviation from that over as short a time as 55 games should not be taken too seriously. It’ll be interesting to see how this series shakes out as it represents the most momentum either team has carried for a long while.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 12, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of the season has been based on small sample sizes

and if Beltre can leave June with a June-split OPS of like .850+, I’ll agree on the trending upward thing. That said, his glove is magnificent.

I’ve been talking with another friend who happens to be an M’s fan, and I brought up the idea of trading off Beltre rather than battle with extensions, because Lord knows teams could use him, and them shifting Branyan to 3B. He was only like a -4 3B (based on 150) with the Brewers last season, and while he wouldn’t be the wall that Beltre is, he wouldn’t be an abominable dropoff, and that way Carp gets his playing time as well.

That or trade Branyan to the Mets for FMart

Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

point being by trading beltre and shifting branyan

is that he might just acquire A or B status (as my friend pointed out)

Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by - I very rarely get a response from the opposing team

Rating the defense as a C isn’t really “poor.” That’s average. I have a hard time grading a defense as above average when they have made so many errors, regardless of the admittedly superior range. That’s why I included the above average UZR/150 stat. I also kept that grade low considering Griffey would have to be in the OF instead of Chavez or any other fleet-footed OF.

As for pitching, you’re tight that I did not break down the staff bullpen vs rotation. Sometimes I have time to delve that deep, and this time I did not. Your staff as a whole has some very sparkly results, and I touched a bit on their smoke and mirror nature with the FIP/ERA split, but your point is well taken regarding the bullpen.

If this were a playoff series, I definitely would break down each aspect from every angle. I’m a little worried all this information is too much as is. Regardless, thank you very much for stopping by and giving the alternate perspective.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Purple Row is significantly less sabermetrically inclined than Lookout Landing

I intentionally include more standard statistics in an attempt to cater to our audience best. I’ve used BABip, FIP and wOBA frequently, and since they’ve been covered, it makes sense to use them. I just don’t want to overuse it for the traditionally inclined readers

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep, I've been in the same boat.

FanGraphs is making it easier to use a lot of these due to a relatively user-friendly interface, but you’ve still got to be careful about going too far afield. It’s just trying to strike a balance between accessible writing and knowledgeable writing, and it can be difficult sometimes.

by Rox Girl on Jun 12, 2009 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think that we have a shot

In all 3 games. In fact, I feel pretty good about the prospects of a sweep. I haven’t felt like I just knew that the Rockies were never out of it since “THE RUN” in 2007. Even when the’ve gone down by a couple runs in the games in this last road series I just knew that they were going to come back. Hopefully that keeps going.

Also, I’m really excited because they televise the mariners in Portland! YAY! Live TV!

by denver_sc on Jun 12, 2009 1:50 PM MDT reply actions  

I went to a Sky Sox game

in Portland last July 18. PGE Park is pretty old school with the manual scoreboard. How often do you get to Beavers games?

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Jun 12, 2009 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not often enough. I

I’ll go 1 or 2 times every time that C Springs comes to town, but only occasionally otherwise. The crying shame is that they are converting PGE to a soccer stadium and making a new Beavers stadium. PGE has been the ballpark downtown for 84 (!) years.

by denver_sc on Jun 12, 2009 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

All I can say is

Lame! I enjoyed the park, and I saw it’s soccer usage, but I hadn’t realized they were building a new stadium for the Beavers. Thanks for the update.

"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK

by jrockies on Jun 13, 2009 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's too early to think Wild Card race

BUT a win tonight by the Rockies and a loss by a few other teams, and the Rockies could jump 4 teams in teams in the Wild Card race. The games behind is the key issue of course, but also the amount of bodies in front is an issue as there is a multiplier affect. (more teams have to lose more games, so a team really is more games out then it may say).

Why is this at all important in the 2nd weekend of June? I know I can speak for every Rockies fan here…we want meaningful games in Summer. That would make me happy

by Redhawk on Jun 12, 2009 2:40 PM MDT reply actions  

If you look at the summed GB, we're actually closer to the Dodgers than the WC

So those bodies we have to climb over are a pretty big deal right now. I think the Rockies would need to be in that group with the Giants that’s 3 games over .500 right now to really be in contention. That means this win streak is only half complete if we really are looking at it as our launch back into contender status. Let’s hope we’ve got another eight or so in us.

by Rox Girl on Jun 12, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Summed GB

I had never heard of that as a way to evaluate, but it does reflect on something I’ve harped on re: the WC race.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 12, 2009 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's at BB-Ref's expanded standings page.

And it’s a dirty tool that does a passable job of illustrating that a task might not be so easy as the 5.0 GB makes it seem. Yesterday’s a great example, the Rockies win, the Mets (who at the time were the WC leaders) lose, but the team doesn’t gain the full game since the Cardinals won and took the WC leader torch. Baseball Prospectus’ Monte Carlo Playoff odds pages are a more refined instrument, but since I was a Baseball ref looking up something else anyway, I used it instead.

by Rox Girl on Jun 12, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I coulda been a contenda

ok…enough with Brando. I think a serious contender would be .500. Ok..maybe not “serious” how about good imitation of one. Enough to get me thinking the games actually matter.

And that’s what I want…..games that matter. Hard to pay money to watch games that don’t matter to your team.

by Redhawk on Jun 12, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, if we we keep up like this

They might just matter.

And you’re paying for the game on Satuday wa ha ha ha ha ha
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Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jun 12, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you've got to be a little better than .500 this year.

To me just .500 says that the team could go either way, might not actually be .500 but just playing over its head, etc.. Right now the NL has five non division leading teams over .500, if our record’s perfectly even we’re still in sixth place in the WC, which is the same as being at the bottom of a division. Playoff odds suggest the WC from the NL this year will have about 90 wins, so I think you’ve got to look at anything less than an 85 win pace right now as out of contention.

by Rox Girl on Jun 12, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying .500 wins jack

BUT….500 means that a team is close enough that “If they got hot”, “one good week”, “It’s not over yet”, stuff comes into play.

I agree it’s not really a serious contention. .500 won’t win the West, or the Wild Card…but close enough that it’s easy to pretend. Like when I’m at the strip club….I’m hot and desirable…well not really, but I buy it every time I’m there. I just want that….close enough to pretend that the game I’m watching counts, and that future happiness COULD be there. (I also want good happy hour specials on draft beer, but that’s I different list)

Unless you are channeling Ricky Bobby, and saying “If you aren’t first, then you’re last”

by Redhawk on Jun 12, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm stoked. Never have seen Ichiro and I'm going to night with my two sons.

And I’m feeling like a win. This team is on a roll. Can’t wait.

Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton

by pedalpusher on Jun 12, 2009 3:15 PM MDT reply actions  

If anybody has ESPN Classic

Padres/Rockies Tiebreaker game bottom of the 13th coming on right now haha….enjoying watching this game lol…keep it going 2009 rox

1 more win for back to back on the Pens and a repeat Go Wings!!!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jun 12, 2009 4:41 PM MDT reply actions  

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Managers

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Staff

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Poison-the-well-the-tropic-rot_small Bryan Kilpatrick

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Wittgenstein_small Greg Stanwood

Special Assistants to the GM

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