Saturday Rockpile: Corpas headed to DL, Dodgers overworking their pen?

by theoldgrizzlybear on Jun 20, 2009 9:58 AM MDT in Rockpile Comment 26 comments

It looks like Manny Corpas is going to be shelved for a few weeks. Hello, Juan Rincon?

Corpas likely headed to DL - The Denver Post

Manuel Corpas' MRI yesterday before the game revealed that he has bone chips in his right elbow, which will likely prompt a stint on the 15-day disabled list. The move is not official yet, but if (rather, when) Manny hits the shelf, Juan Rincon seems like the best possible option. He has a 1.84 ERA at Colorado Springs, and has actually had a solid major league career, posting a 3.84 ERA in over 400 appearances with the Twins and Tigers. However, his last good season was 2006 with the Twins, when he went 3-1 with a 2.91 ERA while striking out 65 in 74.1 IP. It looks like we'll get a chance to see if he can find some of that success pitching in the NL.

High usage already for Los Angeles Dodgers' bullpen arms - ESPN

Good piece here by ESPN.com's Buster Olney, who examines the excessive use of the Dodgers' bullpen so far this season. He also goes on to mention Huston Street and Joel Peralta's strong performances this season, then shows that Street is projected to surpass his career high in appearances - he's predicted to pitch in 75 games and his previous high is 69.

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Over usage of bullpen arms??

with Joe Torre as your manager??? nooo wayyyyyyy (lots of sarcasm) didn’t see that coming.

Damn it of course once Manny starts pitching better he heads to the DL.

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

by TuLoRocks2008 on Jun 20, 2009 10:23 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Not just bullpen arms

Chad Billingsley leads the majors in pitches thrown this season per Fangraphs, and it’s not even close.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Chad has been worked too hard in my opinion. The bullpen overuse is basically on Troncoso and Belisario, although I think Troncoso should be okay. Belisario I am worried about though.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 20, 2009 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although

Billingsley has made 15 starts (most guys have 13 or 14) and according to BP’s Pitcher Abuse Points stat (link here) he’s only 9th in the MLB in PAP, which obviously isn’t good, but it looks better than number of pitches at least. And for what it’s worth, Ubaldo Jimenez is right behind him at #10.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 20, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Missing from talks about Corpas' elbow

is will the chip require surgery to remove? Unlike casino chips, bone chips don’t go away magically, though surgery maybe put off till the off season.

Juan Rincon eah? I think I’d rather go young with up side, like Shane Lindsey. But then again, I didn’t want Randy Flores in my bull pen either.

by Redhawk on Jun 20, 2009 10:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Lindsay is out

He’s currently on the DL. More likely for young upside is Ryan Mattheus… or maybe they bring up Esmil Rogers to work out of the bullpen?

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lindsay is out?

shows you how much I watch the minor leagues

by Redhawk on Jun 20, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not sure what the issue is now

But he hasn’t pitched since May 6.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"forearm tightness"

http://www.insidetherockies.com/2009/05/07/lindsay-update-pitch-limit-stymies-rogers/

Seems like there was another more recent update, but I can’t remember where that was.

by roxhead on Jun 20, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Corpas placed on DL

roster move coming after the game

by Roxfan24 on Jun 20, 2009 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The question, as always, is who do they remove from the 40 man roster?

That is, if they want Rincon up. Basically, it should be Mattheus that goes off if the Rockies aren’t comfortable enough to bring him up for a short stint like this.

Also, Speier could be an option within the next few days, I think.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jun 20, 2009 11:13 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Probably Bellorin

What are the odds that both of our catchers go down at the same time again this season?

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, both Bellorin and Phillips are luxuries on the 40 man roster...

both are replaceable—and yes, they are replacement players—so if an above-replacement player (who Rincon could be) were to be needed on the active roster, then that’s a move that I definitely make.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jun 20, 2009 3:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

No roster move is necessary.

Only 39 spots are currently occupied on the Rockies 40 man Roster,

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct

But that’s only because Torrealba currently doesn’t count. Once he returns, obviously somebody would then have to be shifted off the 40-man if the Rockies don’t do it now.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Paul Phillips for that move, obviously.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That will happen even if we DON'T add somebody, and use Mattheus.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

I’m fairly sure that Phillips is out of options and therefore would have to be DFA’d.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Options are tricky to track.

Phillips has been designated for assignment several times in his career, including twice with the Royals. I am having trouble navigating his transaction history (which on V1 of the MLB transactions list, is pretty sloppily put together), which would tell me if the DFAs are because of a lack of options or because they needed room on the roster, even though he had options.

I would say that it’s pretty unlikely even if he has options that he remains on the roster. He wuill be Designated for Assignment.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've scanned through all of the MLB Transaction records.

I can only find one time Paul Phillips was optioned, 2006.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I found a second one in 2001.

Phillips was in the Royals organization since 1998. If there was a third in 1998-2000, which is possible then I’d say he’s out.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's still no need

to carry four catchers on the 40-man, though, if one of them has to go I’d prefer it be Bellorin personally… Phillips is a better option to have if one of our catchers does indeed go down again this season.

by Tom (RFTN) on Jun 20, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Assuming Phillips is out, though, it'll have to be him.

by WolfMarauder on Jun 20, 2009 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Might have to look outside the organization for this one

Had a feeling we were going to see Spilly moved for some bullpen help anyway. This could speed up that process.

by RockiescastScott on Jun 20, 2009 12:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

But who would take Spilly

and give us a Major League-ready bullpenner? I think it’d take Spilly + someone else to get our money’s worth.

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by oo_nrb on Jun 20, 2009 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Depends on need for an OF...

and “major league ready”. The Sox traded Coco Crisp for Ramon Ramirez in the offseason. I’d guess there’s greater demand for pitchers in midseason trades, but it’s possible. Crisp had the label of a “starting” OF rather than a 4th, but he couldn’t have been seen as that great a catch.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jun 20, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs