Jason Hammel pitches gem, leads Rockies to 4-2 victory in Oakland.
For the first six innings, Matt Holliday was the only Oakland hitter who could figure out Jason Hammel. Holliday hit two doubles off Hammel, but the rest of Oakland's offense went without a hit until Kurt Suzuki lined a solo homerun with two outs in the seventh inning as Hammel shut down the A's and the Rockies won 4-2.Hammel finished with seven and a third innings pitched, two runs and four hits allowed, two walks and five strikeouts.
The A's second run came when they tried to rally off Hammel and relievers Randy Flores and Joel Peralta, but after Peralta walked Jason Giambi with the bases loaded to score Jack Hannahan, he induced Suzuki to pop out to end the threat. Former Athletic Huston Street came on in the ninth to record his 17th save of the season.
Garrett Atkins led the offense with two runs batted in and had his second straight three hit performance on the road trip. Atkins doubled home Ryan Spilborghs in the first inning after Spilborghs reached thanks to a Hannahan throwing error and followed a Todd Helton two run single in the fifth inning with a run scoring single of his own to again drive Spilborghs home.
The Rockies improve to 38-35 overall with the win and 2-2 on their current nine game road trip.
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Nah,
Roger Miller came up a few times in the GT last night. Inevitable, really, when you have Hammel pitching.
by coolopotamus on Jun 27, 2009 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Hammel pitching
equals Roger Miller references? well…um…ok…if you say so, though I don’t see the natural connection.
Well, dang me. dang me. You oughta take a rope and hang me. High from the higggghhheeessstttt tree. Woman would you weep for me?
It's because he's
/Snaps fingers
King of the Road.
by coolopotamus on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions
Does anyone else get the feeling that Morales could replace DLR
if Morales dominates tomorrow and DLR struggles? I would like to see Embree get DFA’d and DLR moved to the pen, if that were to happen.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Very much possible
I think I posted those exact words last week. It’s hard to tell exactly how a pitcher is doing down in the springs though.
We can't send DLR down, he's our best pitcher!!!
well, according to some around here at least
by Narcoleptico on Jun 27, 2009 6:16 AM MDT up reply actions
NOT DOWN
down means to the minors. And his service time is too high to be sent to the minors with out having to “clear wavers” first.
And De La Rosa, has been a good pitcher at times. Very good. He’s also been terrible pitcher at times as well. Sadly in some times in the same game
As for JDLR in the pen, I’m not sure that’s a good fit. He doesn’t seem to work well out of the stretch (which given the amount of walks he gives up is not a good thing) so I’m not sure putting him in pen is a good match.
You're going to keep that going aren't you?
Absolutely no one said he was the best pitcher. It’s not just people here that say he’s pitched better than his line. Check this.
Four-fifths of the starting rotation have been especially impressive…Jorge De La Rosa, despite a poor ERA, sits a 4.02 FIP and is striking out nearly 10 K/9….Aaron Cook’s been the worst starte
There’s something to be said when a pitcher’s ERA is that much worse than fancy metrics suggest it should be, and in a way, DLR deserves that split due to mental implosions and big innings. He’s not our best – he’s just not trash.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 27, 2009 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions
De La Rosa has made a career of "outpitching his line"
to the point that FIP arguments in favor of De La Rosa are growing tiresome. In not one major league season has De La Rosa outpitched his FIP, coming closest in 2005 at 4.48 compared to 4.04.
Almost as consistent as his underperforming to his FIP is De La Rosa’ posting of a strand rate lower than league average. If 70% is more or less a benchmark for average, De La Rosa has top that once, 2005 again, but his strand rate has slipped the last three seasons. While strand rates tend to vary for pitchers, a consistently lower for De La Rosa supports a trend, and the theory that De La Rosa lacks the mental toughness to succeed consistently with men on base. Couple that with a career .330 BABIP allowed, and a walk rate routinely in the fours, and De La Rosa will always fight these demons.
Looking at FIP too much for support for De La Rosa is fools gold. Beyond that, his career FIP of 4.73 evensuggests he’s not a pitcher worth waiting around to find improvement. Jorge’s 28 years old and he is what he is, a number five starter that predominantly gets his outs by the strikeout, but is far from a complete pitcher.
I do believe it’s in the Rockies best interest to consider replacing him, but we must assume that such replacements would come from within, and that presents a bit of a problem:
Talent-wise, Chacin and Rogers are superior pitchers to the options ahead of them on the ladder, but the Rockies likely don’t have the time to allow for the adjustment in skipping levels. Plus, Chacin likely needs a full season in AA to continue to face quality hitters while developing a game plan with two solid pitches and an average third one. Rogers is very close, His command is superior to all other options, and his stuff is good enough to get big league hitters out, but the Rockies may not have to push him if they can avoid it.
In my mind, there are two options to De La Rosa, Morales and Hynick. Hynick is a real wild card as a smoke and mirrors pitcher. His K and BB rates are similar to Cook, but the GB% isn’t close. Hynick’s working at his best when he’s mixing in a solid splitter with three other average pitches to keep hitters off balance and generate weak contact. His BABIP has stayed relatively consistent from year to year, so there is some evidence to suggest that he could continue to outpitch his FIP. Yet, often times, pitchers like Hynick can’t uphold the gimmick against major league hitters.
Morales, in many ways, is the younger version of De La Rosa, but that alone makes him more appealing as someone that still has time to improve on the mental and physical deficiencies in his game. Morales has laready shown some promise in his AAA stint in pitching around runners on base, but I still believe this is a delicate situation and would worry like to see Morales not return until the team is confident he’s right in AAA.
My plan would be to promote Hynick first, knowing full well that the risk of him being a less appealling option exists. Should Hynick struggle worse, Morales would then get the call, having added an additional 3-4 starts in AAA. Should both prove incapable of holding down the spot through July, then you could probably make the call to Rogers. Bottom line, the Rockies do have internal options to De La Rosa,and they don’t have to wait for him to solve a problem he has yet to show improvement on.
I somewhat agree... but mostly don't
JDLR’s at once overvalued by some because of the FIP, but at the same time, I think others put to much emphasis on his starts with poor results, which remain in the minority since he joined the Rockies. Right now, he’s a bottom of the rotation pitcher. Those of us, myself included, that were hoping he could be more than that this season have to accept that it’s not happening and probably not going to happen. At the same time, however, he’s a good bottom of the rotation pitcher, better than most in the National League, and people who are looking to replace him better be sure that who they’re suggesting is a clear upgrade. I don’t know if Hynick’s that guy. We would be be taking a big gamble that he makes a smooth jump to the more advanced MLB bats from the PCL. We’re seeing how Adam Eaton’s dominating AAA, but also know how he did in the MLB (granted that was the AL East) which should give us a warning about how big the difference between skills in the leagues are this year. There just aren’t a lot of quality hitters in the PCL, and I’d only advocate trying out Hynick with an injury to somebody on the big league squad.
Also, given the way that JDLR pitched in the second half last season, I still suspect this might be a situation where he does start to shine later, maybe taking up the slack of Marquis. Three of his last four starts have been wins for the Rockies, and he averaged six innings, three runs allowed, seven K’s in those starts. The fourth start was a disaster, but still, three out of four quality or near quality starts for a Rockies bottom of the rotation starter isn’t bad. Right now, I don’t see any clearly superior internal or external options manifesting themselves, and don’t think we’re being damaged enough by JDLR to make looking for them a pressing concern. These next two starts against the A’s and Dodgers might push me to change my mind on that, but right now, I think we’re doing okay with him starting every five days.
was out all night
but followed game via blackberry….nice job boys! keep it going tomorrow!
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
It's Hammel Time!
Best game he’s pitched. Ever. Downright dominant. Good to see Atkins get some hits. Bullpen looked decent. Nice win. Giants lost to the Brew Crew, and we’re only 1.5 games behind them, and we’re still relevant…. I could get used to this.
I would just like to point out
that now Marquis has only the 4th best ERA among our starters since Cook and Hammel have passed him this week.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 27, 2009 12:19 AM MDT up reply actions
Been home for a while from the game.
Some random notes/observations:
1. The A’s mascot is… an elephant? Um, okay?
2. McAfee Coliseum is ugly and the scoreboard sucks. I’m used to the big fancy one at AT&T that shows all kinds of handy information.
3. When the umpires were announced some in the crowd did some sort of chant after every name, but I couldn’t understand what they were saying. Something like, “Oh, no.” I don’t know.
4. Brad Hawpe’s batting stance is funny looking.
5. Nomar Garciaparra plays for the A’s? Huh. Did not know that (or forgot, one of the two).
6. The A’s were clearly trying to maim our pitchers. Though Hammel’s play in the first was particularly amusing.
7. Also amusing was Todd when he had to dive back to first. He laid there for awhile before getting up, like he would rather just stay down there.
8. The bottom of the 8th just about killed me.
9. There were fireworks after the game, which I didn’t know about until I got to the game. I thought about leaving before them, but the ramp to BART was going to be closed anyway until they were over. Ricky Henderson debuted with the A’s 30 years ago this week, so the fireworks were set to pure funk music popular in 1979. I knew like one song.
10. I’m glad I stayed, as the fireworks were pretty awesome. The grand finale was particularly fantastic.
Oh, also
While waiting on the BART platform after the game, all of us standing there witnessed a beatdown on the street below, which sent a couple of the BART cops running. The people involved fled before anyone got out there. That’s Oakland for you.
A's Mascot = Elephant
That goes way back to 1905 and the Philadelphia A’s and John McGraw. I didn’t know the origin, but wikipedia says McGraw (managing the Giants) said the club was a “white elephant” and the owner defiantly adopted the image as a mascot for the team.
They’ve had an elephant on the uniform off and on from the 1909 season.
Free Seth Smith!
I figured there was a story somewhere.
But I had never in my life seen or heard of an elephant in connection with the A’s.

















