Thursday Rockpile: Jim Tracy already grating on his team, Atkins to AAA?, Tulo's hand, Spring Training future
Looking won't cut it with Tracy at helm - The Denver Post
Jim Tracy is like us. He is like everyone really. All of these backwards K's are grating on him. Six of the Rockies' 12 strikeouts Tuesday night happened with the bat never leaving the shoulder. Tracy's comment is obvious, but then again, there is a valid reason he is compelled to say it.
"I keep trying to send them the message that if you are standing there with the bat on your shoulder and the ball is passing through the hitting area and you don't do anything, you know what chance you have? None. Zero" - Saunders
Have a look at Hawpe and Helton | ColoradoRockies.com: News
Two hitters who haven't fallen into that trap are Todd Helton and Brad Hawpe. Not surprisingly, the two are finding great success and seem to be immune from the flailings of their teammates. Tracy suggests the struggling hitters emulate their success. Anothre duh statement, but the apparent lack of the obvious move requires Tracy to voice it.
"So my big question would be from the standpoint of some of the other guys. These are your peers. These are your teammates. Are you asking them any questions about what their approach is? Or aren't you paying that close attention to a future Hall of Famer [Helton] that you're wearing the same jersey as when he walks to home plate to take an at-bat?" - Harding
Atkins' long fall back to Triple-A? - The Denver Post Patrick Saunders notes that Garrett Atkins' precipitous fall from success in past years reflects on the plight of the entire organization. We've all been asking it for a while, and now Saunders is as well. According to Tracy, allowing Atkins to recharge his AAA batteries not be plausible at this point due to rampant injuries. pedalpusher had the scoop on this in his FanShot this morning prior this column's publishing.
Tulowitzki to have an MRI | ColoradoRockies.com: News
Troy Tulowitzki's hand swelled more after leaving Tuesday's game. The original diagnosis was a contusion, but the MRI might reveal a more serious injury.
Scottsdale backs tribe in bid for training site
The Rockies might be through in Tucson after Scottsdale backed a possible plan to construct a complex expected to cost close to $100 million on tribal land east of Scottsdale. The complex would be shared by the Diamondbacks and could open as soon as 2011.
Inside the Colorado Rockies " Second Scoreless Outing For Daley
Matt Daley threw his second consecutive impressive scoreless outing for the Sky Sox last night.
Dissecting the Disabled List by Team, Position, Year and Injury - Beyond the Box Score
TucsonRoyal at Beyond the Boxscore labored through years of data and displayed injury trends for every team dating back to 2002. Among many other findings, the Rockies have lost the 8th most days in MLB due to players being on the DL in that time frame.
Pitch Count Theories - Beyond the Box Score Given this recent fanshot, I thought it prudent to share the many pitch count theories around, as compiled by Sky Kalkman at BtB.
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You beat me by a little bit. Thank you. And sorry for the major flakiness this week.
I’m having major issues this week, obviously. It’s been an adventure, let’s say. Right now my power’s out at my house and I’m about to run out of my 30 minutes of Wi-Fi at Panera, but the one other link I was going to add was to this article on the Rockies upcoming draft preparations. It sounds like Bill Schmidt is planning on drafting another 4th/5th starter type.
by Rox Girl on Jun 4, 2009 9:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not high on either Gibson or White, I presume
I actually think White could be pretty good, despite not having the kind of season that was expected of him this year. I see him as more of a 3-4 than a 4-5, but then again, I’ve always thought classifying starting pitchers into single rotation slots is really silly, particularly before they’ve ever pitched an inning of professional baseball.
I haven’t seen Gibson pitch so I have no opinion on him, but I did see White in Omaha last year.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, I'm okay with either,
And their ceilings are alright. Circumstances of the week probably have me a bit more cynical than normal, but in many ways I see adding a 3/4 starter as more accumulating of mediocrity. The Dodgers draft preview page, for instance says:
White forecasts more teams taking his approach and raiding the high school ranks, mainly because of the generally accepted analysis that this Draft lacks college impact hitters. The way the Dodgers look at it, they got a quality player from this Draft in Hudson and they are confident they can grab a high-ceiling player with their sandwich pick.
The D-backs seem to be going a similar direction. Yet Schmidt’s words make it pretty clear that the Rockies won’t be one of those teams looking for a high ceiling high schooler with their pick. So if all of the other teams in the division are going to go after a higher ceilinged player than the Rockies are going to select (the Giants and Padres get to pick before the Rockies so they would almost be assumed to get a bigger impact player by default) than it doesn’t instill a lot of confidence that the Rockies will get the best of this draft a few years from now. That would be four years in a row that the team’s draft comes out inferior to more than one divisional opponent, that’s not the way to build a winner when you rely solely on your team’s ability to manufacture their own talent.
by Rox Girl on Jun 4, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thing will never get turned around by continually drafting potential back of the rotation guys.
I understand the money issue, but if we’re ever to have a chance, we’ve got to be drafting best available talent regardless of position and signability. It’s the FO’s job to get them signed. And if ownership won’t allow the FO to spend the money needed to compete, fans should respond by not spending their money on an inferior product.
/turns off rant mode.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
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by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who was Jason Young?
I didn’t pay attention to drafts and minor leaguers back then. What was his story, what type of ceiling was projected for him? I had forgotten about the weird rib injury thing—probably conflated Young with whatever happened to Cook. What happened to him after 2005 when the Indians claimed him? Did he just retire?
by FooMan on Jun 4, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drafting Stanford pitchers
just hasn’t really worked out all that well for any team over the last twenty years. Mike Mussina was the last good one. Jeremy Guthrie’s decent, but eh.
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
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by Russ Oates on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey no problem
You’ve had my back before. Just remember to pay your electric bill :)
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm back from Panera, one $35 parking ticket and an $7.50 sandwich poorer, but back, and my power's back on. Yay!
So I’ll be able to do tonight’s game thread without much trouble.
by Rox Girl on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez, Panera charges $35 for parking? It's free out here. :)
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
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by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you didn't get that ticket
just for the Rockpile that wasn’t
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I did, but it's about the way my week has gone,
So at this point it’s not phasing me anymore. Bring it on, life. I can take it.
by Rox Girl on Jun 4, 2009 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atta girl !!
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
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by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Tracy grating on his team? Or is his team grating on him?
I’m really happy to hear him at least call out the guys who just stand there with the bat on their shoulder.
And what has to happen to send Atkins to AAA? DFA? Waivers? Options left? And if he does go south (already has figuratively, now literally) will he still be earning $7MM?
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 9:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd say both
I’m not positive about the transaction details.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In regards to the late Garrett Atkins
Since the Old Yeller option isn’t a choice on the poll, I didn’t vote, but at any rate, he can not keep getting at bats if this team wants to have a prayer offensively.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure there's a real good option in the poll.
I voted to send him to AAA thinking that maybe if his past is able to be rediscovered maybe he can do it there. Trying to work out his problems in games that count doesn’t seem to be doing anyone any good. The only other option I guess would be to just release him and be done with it. We’d still have to pay him but we’re going to have to do that if he’s in the Springs as well.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
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by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's not way anyone claims him if he is put on waivers
given his dismal production and large salary. And if they did, I wouldn’t have a problem with getting the salary relief.
by moomacher on Jun 4, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's not a real good option in real life either
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eye check?
Has Atkins always squinted so much? Maybe he needs contacts.
by FooMan on Jun 4, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he has
That’s the most crucial part of any imitation of Atkins’ batting stance.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My brother-in-law has said the same thing
and he says it looks like his eyes are rolling into the back of his head sometimes, and he thinks thats why he can’t see the ball.
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
by smokinRox on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like a shark biting.
Live every week like it’s shark week.
Listen, this signature line is a big part of who I am.
by frightenedinmate#2 on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've often wondered that as well. But surely regular eye examinations are a part of any MLB team's player evaluation.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atkins still in recovery?
This is wild speculation but I recall Atkins having some sort of stomach flu/bug during spring training and he sat out for a good 2 weeks. I got the stomach flu from a nice eating establishment in Tucson a few years back during Spring Training and it took me a good 2-3 months before I was really all better. And I wasn’t trying to run around on a field or smack the ball all day (although it’s a far better alternative to my desk job:) While the other theories that have been thrown about here the last few weeks are far more viable, it is something to consider. And few ballplayers would come out and use lingering illness as an excuse. Maybe it’s one reason why they’ve been giving him so long to improve (oh, and 7 million dollars)…Helton never really recovered from the nasty stomach ailment that put him in the hospital in ‘06 —although his final numbers for the season weren’t nearly as bad as Atkins to date.
Perhaps Atkins is susceptible to catching nasty bugs? He had strep throat in August last year as well – Another energy sucking illness…
watch out for the potted plants...
by WalkInRight on Jun 4, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if that's it and he's been dealing with it for almost 3 months he should have been put on IR.
And if that was the case and he’s not been put on IR, someone should be taken out behind the barn and whipped.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and hockey
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you know what I meant.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
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by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 5:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saunders says he has an option
And it was discussed a while ago, and we thought that may be true.
by mkorpal on Jun 4, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, then we should use that remaining option today.
I’m sure GA is working hard to get out of this funk but whatever the problem is, it’s not improving on the big club.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little pissed at Tracy's rationale
“We would totally send him down except we can’t because of injuries”
It’s kind of a valid thing, but give me a break, we’re so far out it’s not even funny.
Call up Mike McCoy, let him start at SS, Barmes at 2B, Stewart at 3B. We’ll still have Q backing up the IF. Our situation won’t really change that much.
I don’t know why they’re balking at bringing him up. He is sporting a higher wOBA than Carlos Gonzalez, good for 2nd in the PCL, second to Jake Fox who had no business being in AAA.
McCoy at least deserves a SHOT in the majors, and I mean a shot over EYJ.
(actually Statcorner is suggesting CarGo is higher than McCoy, but now we’re just quibbling)
I hereby start my Free Mike McCoy campaign.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s kind of a valid thing, but give me a break, we’re so far out it’s not even funny.
Ironically, that same rationale could be applied to letting Atkins figure it out without going through the trouble. Disclaimer: I do not agree with the application of this.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh clearly
I’m not totally against Atkins just staying there and trying to muster something up
But don’t tell me it’s because of injuries that we’re not sending him down. He provides less than nothing to the team at this point, AAA guy guyerson would be better
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
we have to delay Guy Guyerson’s arbitration clock. He’s just too good.
by Resolution on Jun 4, 2009 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
point
I want to see an outfield of Smith-Dex-Gonzalez with Guyerson as the 4th
An IF of Whatshisface-Tulo-Scrubby McCallup-Helton
CDI Catching
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have EYJ playing 2B right now
And Murton being the 4th outfielder
by mkorpal on Jun 4, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the hate on Scrubby McCall up?
I hear he’s scrappy and has a solid glove
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jun 4, 2009 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He runs hard to 1B every time
isn’t afraid to get dirt on his uni
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't usually disagree with you but
Guyerson (like Fowler) shouldn’t be here to be a 4th OF bro…
Also, I just read your post on Smith’s splits. Clearly Coors hitters always have much better numbers at home than on the road, but so does every other ballplayer not on the Padres. It always makes me wonder what the mean home/road difference is across all teams (maybe excluding the Rockies and the Padres). I think the Coors inflation, especially now with the humidor is more hype than substance…
People were hating on Holliday being a Coors product and then hailing Josh Hamilton last season. Hamilton had even more ridiculous home/away splits than Holliday…
by Resolution on Jun 4, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler also sports massive splits
Votto has a .100 OPS split.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet somehow
it’s always, “remember he plays half his games at Coors Field.”
I love Greg Reynolds. Deal with it, suckers.
by Silverblood on Jun 4, 2009 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike McCoy? Come on
Mike McCoy hadn’t had a competent season with the stick since 2004 in High-A until he was given the gift of getting to play half his games in Colorado Springs. This is not like a Scott McClain type of guy where he’s mashed his whole minor league career but never gotten a shot. The very idea that McCoy is a big-league caliber player is absurd.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
We’re not a big league caliber team right now. Atkins isn’t a big league caliber player right now.
Why not give the guy a look? What’s the worst that could happen? You fulfill a guy’s dreams and the team loses anyway?
I sincerely doubt he would hinder the lineup or the team in any real quantifiable sense.
I’m not touting him as the solution, just something to make this team a bit more interesting right now.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if he gets called up, neat,
Maybe he can be as good as Eddy Garabito. And if Tulo has to go on the DL, I wouldn’t even necessarily rule it out. I’m just saying Mike McCoy is a AAA lifer having a fluky 300 ABs in the friendliest hitters environment this side of the moon, and not worth the big league organization’s time. Call up EY if you want to give a middle infielder a break. Mike McCoy’s meaning to the future of this franchise is precisely nil.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don't get the cognitive dissonance.
“We suck! Time to plan for the future! Let’s send down Fowler and Stewart and Tulo and call up Mike McCoy!”
(I’m not saying that’s your thought, I’m just cobbling together your McCoy plan and other groupthink.)
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a plan
If Tulo goes on the DL or if Atkins gets whatevered, there’s a roster spot. This way we can keep Barmes at 2B so he can continue excelling there – because he is right now – and have Stewart playing full time, or McCoy playing, or Q playing, or whatever.
It’s just a roster spot, the guy is mashing, I just figure ride the hot bat if we’re gonna suck anyhow.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK then, why McCoy and not EY Jr.
Who’s having a fine season in his own right and may actually factor into the organization’s plans down the road.
If Tulo went on the DL and Atkins were sent down, I’d call up EY, get him in at second, and play Barmes at short. Then you get a chance to get a look at a guy who you might want to make room for in the future.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not against that either
EYJ is basically looking like what he should be – high OBP and that’s all I care about.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't necessarily disagree
but we need to see what we have down on the farm and some guys are not moveable at this point. I would like to see Gonzo hit major league pitching to see what we have in him after we move Hawpe at trading deadline, and the one moveable part is Fowler, who could use some AAA AB’s. I think Tulo and Stew, even though they are definitely a part of our future, in my mind anyways, might need some time to get their thoughts straight, thats all.
I do agree on McCoy though, I don’t think he is suddenly becoming a future major league starter, but he might deserve a callup given the numbers he is putting up. However I would rather see EYJ myself since he has a more legit shot of being our future 2B.
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by smokinRox on Jun 4, 2009 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This part of the groupthink would just like to see some solid progress.
Or progress of any other type for that matter.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to further my point
I give you Jeff Pickler.
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The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of Pickler's seasons have TOUCHED
what McCoy is doing now
Again – Not the solution!
Could he be better than Baker or Q or whoever? SURE!
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pickler hit that well over a full season
And didn’t get a call because the Rox knew that he wasn’t a part of the future and wasn’t worth ‘getting a look’. Neither is McCoy.
Staying on the sunny side of Blake Street since 1993.
The Shawn Chacon Experience - Life as a Rockies fan, one day at a time: Because we're all still recovering from those nine blown saves.
by Franchise26 on Jun 4, 2009 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
05 was a completely different season
We had a roster and bench full of Gen R guys
Now we’re in such a state of flux, why not? Make someone happy. Me, specifically.
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably also Mike McCoy, and his mother,
So there could be three people or more happy with that move.
by Rox Girl on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
what harm could it do?
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
taking playing time away from real, actual prospects
by Narcoleptico on Jun 4, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had prospects
who were legitimately and undeniably knocking at the door, I could see that, but EYJ is the closest and while he looks alright, he’s not clear-and-present-EYJ
Matt Murton status: Freed
Chris Iannetta status: Mashing AAA
Seth Smith status: Badass
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atkins and Stewart and Injuries? What injuries?
ONE of them needs to go to AAA. Both need to start somewhere. BOTH have issues to work out. Which would be best where I dunno. It’s not like Stewart is tearing anything up. 10 hits in the last month…5 were homers, but his K’s…wow…bad.
INJURIES? What injuries? Tulo’s hand? Iannetta who’s about to come back and is a catcher? Or to some of the pitcher? I call BS on the injury excuse He needs to go down too. Look Tracy, this team is a AAAA team. YOU have to teach like it’s AAA, and teach all day, though the game. This team is playing for nothing this year besides pride, and a few ticket sale.
It’s time to see some youth like EY2 It’s time to make some trades (like Hawpe)., it’s time to bring up Sox the Fox! (ok, it’s just a long summer and I want something to get excited for)
by Redhawk on Jun 4, 2009 11:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I still want Stewart to play every day.
Yes, if you want to be a major league player, you need to be able to hit no matter where your ABs come or what position you are in. But he has been used so randomly. If he got 10 starts in a row at 3b (just to throw out a random number) and he produced at an Atkins like pace, then that’s a problem. But if you’re supposed to be the 3b of the future, and the current 3b is stinking it up and you aren’t getting in……crap, lost the train of thought. In short, give Stewart the job, get him a bunch of ABs. That is all.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jun 4, 2009 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like tracy's comments....
…about backward Ks and not modeling Helton & Hawpe. Yeah they’re stating the obvious, but Hurdle wouldn’t have gone there so directly.
Of course, some sports columnist is bound to say that he’s “throwing his team under the bus”. We’ve gotten so touchy-feely in this society that a manager calling out a bunch of millionaires who constitute a terrible last-place team is suddenly taboo. Screw that — these guys need to hear the truth.
Good for Tracy for making a stab at it.
My favorite Rockie? Why, Ty Van Burkleo, of course!
by BroJB on Jun 4, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stewart should be starting at 3B
We’ll find out if he’s the Rox’ 3rd baseman for the next few years or another prospect who washed out. And despite his struggles, his SLG is higher than .273.
I still like the idea of packaging Atkins & Dinger in a deal. Maybe the Rockies could get Mr. Redlegs in return.
by J. Henry Waugh on Jun 4, 2009 12:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He'd become Mr. Purplelegs?
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?
Author: Jim Bouton
by pedalpusher on Jun 4, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
big baseball heads with moustaches frighten me...
watch out for the potted plants...
by WalkInRight on Jun 4, 2009 12:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have nightmares about :-C?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
by Mondogarage on Jun 4, 2009 12:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Oi! There is a strking resemblance...:)
from his Phillies days especially.
watch out for the potted plants...
by WalkInRight on Jun 4, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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