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Friday Pebble Report: Bats break out in C. Springs and Modesto, Durden extends scoreless inning streak

Colorado Springs (32-21, 1st): W 16-8

Matt Miller and Kenny Perez led the Sky Sox offensive explosion combining for seven hits and seven RBI, each tripled, Perez also added a double. The only Sky Sox starter not to get a hit was lead off hitter Eric Young Jr., who walked three times and stole his 33rd base of the season. Young is batting .405/.500/.643 over his last ten games, with more walks (8) and stolen bases (9), than strikeouts (7). The massive caveat is that those ten games have all been at either Security Service Field or Albuquerque's Isotopes Park, but he's looking like he's either really close or even ready for the next step right now if the Rockies can figure out how to open up a roster spot. Chris Iannetta had two hits in his rehab assignment. Jason Hirsh allowed five runs in four innings.

Tulsa (28-23, 1 GB): W 1-0 

Brandon Durden hasn't allowed a run in his twelve innings of work since being promoted to the Drillers, the lack of strikeouts (3) and a groundball rate that's decent but not great is suggesting that this streak is more mirage than legit, but it's definitely coming in useful for the Drillers, who are having troubles mustering much offense of their own lately. Tulsa's 213 runs are second fewest in the league, only four over Arkansas. That the Drillers have allowed 232 suggests that the winning record is a bit of a fluke, but we'll take it. Tulsa won yesterday via a tenth inning bases loaded walk to Michael Paulk off of Jose Diaz, scoring Anthony Jackson. Jackson was one of two walks given up by losing pitcher Pedro Strop (he's still stuck in AA, apparently, so it hasn't turned out to be a huge loss for the Rockies so far) and then two more by Diaz led to the only run of the game scored by either team.

Modesto: W 11-2

Jeff Cunningham finished a home run short of the cycle, but impressively managed two triples instead to go along with his walk and double. He drove in four of the Nuts runs, and scored three of them. Christian Friedrich pitched impressively for six innings, allowing just two runs on six hits and two walks and struck out seven, but didn't pick up the win as the Nuts saved most of their scoring for a eight run seventh inning after he had already left. The win instead went to Joey Williamson, who has to be about the most opportunistic pitcher I've ever seen.

Call it luck of the Irish (the Notre Dame variety, that is), but Williamson is still undefeated, 16-0, in his minor league career after picking up his seventh win against no losses for Modesto this year. That's a pretty incredible run there, but it should also show that he a knack for limiting damage and keeping his teams in the baseball game, which is part of the reason why I don't discount him as a potential MLB player despite his minor league middle reliever status.

Asheville: L 3-5

Juan Nicasio was a tough luck loser after pitching five innings, allowing just one unearned run on five hits while striking out seven, but the Tourists offense had trouble finding their footing and a ninth inning meltdown by Adam Jorgensen cost the team a potential win at Greenville. David Mailman (really, that's his name) express delivered the deciding blow with a grand slam after Jorgenson gave up a double, a strikeout wild pitch and a walk to load the bases with no one out.

 

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Hmmm

Ubaldo Chacin Morales Friedrich Rogers by 2010-11? That wouldn’t be a bad rotation.

by moomacher on Jun 5, 2009 10:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd wager we'll see Hynick in there as well

Maybe Rogers in the pen

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you need to update your sig..

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not getting off of Mike McCoy

…. that didn’t come out right

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

McCoy is listed as a 3b on the Sky Sox roster.

How could you call up someone to replace the mighty Atkins? He hit 2 HR’s last night!

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quit underestimating Esmil Rogers

There’s no way I’d rather have Hynick in the rotation.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen to that

I really like moomacher’s idea for a rotation, that could be scary good if those guys stay on the path they’re on. Hynick can be a middle man or just a AAA insurance policy. I do agree that someone like Rogers or Deduno have better arms that might look better in the BP if we need an arm, at least better than Hynick would fit into a BP. I guess it depends on where the priority is at.

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by smokinRox on Jun 5, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scary good?

I’m not sure I’d go quite that far, as it still looks like a bunch of good #3 starters to me, with the exception of Ubaldo. It’d sure be nice to field a rotation of legitimate arms who can attack hitters, though.

by mattrob on Jun 5, 2009 4:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williamson is still undefeated, 16-0, in his minor league career .. That’s a pretty incredible run there… a knack for limiting damage and keeping his teams in the baseball game, which is part of the reason why I don’t discount him as a potential MLB player

But some people don’t believe in wins. They think wins only appear when you sprinkle fairy dust.

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I will kill you

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously though

he’s 16-0, which tells me….what? Did his team club 9 runs every game he started? How many has he struck out? Is he underchallenged? Is he wild? Does he give up a lot of doubles?

Saying a pitcher is good because he has a lot of wins is like saying I’m a good racing driver because I have a fast car.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is pretty strange stat for a middle reliever, but..

It tells me that he has probably come in when either:

A. The game is close/tied and the team needs goose eggs, or;
B. The game has just gotten out of hand and he shuts the barn door, or;
C. He’s let the game get out of hand, closed the door and the offense rescued him.

That’s funny you used a racing analogy because in my term paper I am writing I found a Harris Poll which states Racing Fans are most likely to be people with Less-than a High School Education…
which you and I are definitely > High School Education.

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah see

I didn’t read the article clearly enough

but my points stand.

I thought the racing analogy was apt.

Your ABC points there are pretty much the truth about Wins for a RP. Because they range from “lights out awesome” to “batting practice” I stand by the concept that Wins for a RP tell you absolutely literally nothing.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

explains why I hate NASCAR and F1.

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by Russ Oates on Jun 5, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh..

But how do you feel about Danica Patrick?

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

At some point wins start to tell you something, though.

Jamie Moyer’s 1996 season was generally considered a fluke and the Red Sox thought they were selling high on him when they traded him to Seattle at the deadline for Darren Bragg. He was 7-1 and did not have much to recommend him on his career at that point besides more W’s than a lot of people felt he should have.

Jason Marquis still gets lambasted regularly by Baseball Prospectus, to wit, this was from April 10:

Unhappy Roster Situation: The unique agonies of employing Marquis de Sad in the rotation won’t be alleviated nearly enough by the patent pleasure of letting him hit in Coors, but at least his days at the office should be exciting in all phases of the game.

yet he keeps on racking up successful seasons, at some point they and everybody else has to step back and realize that closer scrtiny needs to be given as to what’s making this player successful. The same is true with Williamson. The wins (over 70 game, 147.1 innings, so he’s had plenty of opportunity to fail but hasn’t yet) don’t tell you what’s driving the success, but they do tell you that there’s something there worth investigating further.

by Rox Girl on Jun 5, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I've never denied that they're not a good indicator

I grind MY particular axe on them here, but almost undeservedly, because nobody comes out citing just W-L as the true measure of a pitcher.

Marquis is an interesting choice, as he seems to have found his groundball again and may have just extended his career as such (at least extended with potential of more contract opportunities rather than teams just taking fliers on him), and good on him. Over the course of his career, Fangraphs has dubbed him as being worth $27.3M, while making only $20.4M (and I don’t know if they have accounted for this year’s salary yet, but I’d wager he stays on the plus side of things).

So wins? Wins are my “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”, but I protest them because they can be so misleading. I figure pRAA is a better measure.

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

also "Correlation does not imply Causality"

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I have my shoe back?

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously who throws a shoe?

you fight like a woman!

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? I do not fight like a woman!!!

:: screached in a high voice ::

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by Charlie77 on Jun 5, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

pssst have you not seen Austin Powers?

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by Andrew Martin on Jun 5, 2009 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reynolds

“his stuff has not looked nearly as good in pro ball as it did in college.”

That would explain a lot a little.

by FooMan on Jun 5, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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