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Wednesday Rockpile: June Review

As Buster Olney would say, Jason Marquis was The Man last night for the Rockies. Some stats from his start:

  • 86 pitches, 66 of them strikes
  • 2 hits allowed, only one more than Marquis himself had
  • 2 hour, 16 minute game
  • 16 groundball outs
  • 10 wins, most in the NL

What Marquis' eponymous performance lacked was support from the Rockies' lineup outside of Brad Hawpe. Once again, the Rockies struck out in the double digits last night (12 times) and looked like they were hacking quite a bit. Carlos Gonzalez in particular has struggled in the last three games, going 0-10 with 8 strikeouts--though Dexter Fowler and Clint Barmes admittedly haven't looked much better.

My point is that the Rockies can't rely on getting excellent pitching day in and day out from their starters as they did in June. I mean, they had 19 wins from their pitchers in June, plus even more quality starts that kept the bullpen rested and gave the offense a fighting chance to win games.

Colorado can't have a sinkhole like Barmes and Fowler have been lately at the beginning of their lineup, nor can Carlos Gonzalez keep getting consistent at bats after the way he has looked lately--swinging at (and missing) almost every breaking ball in the dirt or high fastball.

But enough doom and gloom. With the win the Rockies got their 21st and final win of June, making it their winningest month ever--one more than September 2007. Overall in the month the Rockies went 21-7, winning 6 of 7 series (five of them via sweep) and outscoring their opposition by 49 runs. Here are a few more details, courtesy of the Fangraphs' statistical database, about the Rockies' performance in June:

  • The offense posted a .353 wOBA, second in MLB to only the Rays. The Rockies were also second to Tampa Bay in OBP, OPS, ISO, and wRAA
  • The pitching staff had a 3.60 ERA and a 3.90 FIP. The starters were even better, posting a 3.51 ERA and 3.78 FIP and going 19-5 in the month while throwing the most pitches and leading MLB in June in GB/FB (by a wide margin) with 2.30. In other words, they were really good.
  • For the season, the Rockies' pitchers are 3rd in the majors in WAR with 11.1, generating $49.8 million in value for Colorado.

While I doubt we can expect another June any time soon, especially from the pitching staff, the Rockies have put themselves into position with this hot month to compete seriously for a playoff berth, and that's all that you can ask for considering where the Rockies were at as June began (20-30, 13.5 GB).

More Rockies news, links, and analysis after the jump... 

Star-divide

Hynick Perfect

As Russ noted in the Pebble Report, Rockies prospect Brandon Hynick tossed a 7 inning perfect game last night for the AAA Sky Sox. Keith Cartwright has some insight into the performance.

Local Media

Troy Renck theorizes that Manny Ramirez's return might help the Rockies--not because the Dodgers won't eventually be a better team with him, but due to the settling in process that will disrupt LA's lineup. Specifically, Renck points out that the schedule for the Rockies over the next 10 games is much easier than the Dodgers' as Manny gets back in the swing of things.

Renck also points to the difference in bullpen play between Colorado and LA as an explanation of the Rockies' 2-9 record against the Dodgers. I'm not sure that I completely buy this, but the disparity has been a factor.

Tracy Ringolsby notes that the Rockies have a decision to make with their catching situation now that Yorvit Torrealba is returning from the restricted list. I'd prefer options (a), (c), and (e) trade Torrealba to Florida.

Finally, Woody Paige writes about the excitement of Monday night's game and makes some cogent points.

LA Media

Jim Pelz praises Jason Marquis' performance...though the headline calls him an ace. I guess against LA, Marquis has been our ace, though in actuality he's our 3/4 starter.

National Media

Fox Sports' Dayn Perry lists some hot trade market commodities, and Huston Street is on the list. I don't think the Rockies can afford to part with Street at this point...he's the only legitimate reliever Colorado has in their pen.

CBS Sports has their power rankings out once again and the Rockies are fifth in MLB.

Finally, Baseball Prospectus now sees the Rockies' playoff chances as a near 50-50 proposition in their unadjusted playoff odds. Colorado's ELO chance is 42% and its (inaccurate) PECOTA projection is 14%.

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No TV and no beer

make Homer something something….

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Crazy?

But the No TV thing has me bothered. Would the MLB tv package Dodgers feed (say if I went to a bar for a long lunch break) be blacked out here in Denver?

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I went to a sports bar on a Wednesday afternoon

and asked to watch the Rockies game, would the 21 year old stupid waitresses, even know how to change the channel? Would they know that Rockies would be under “baseball”?

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so.

Maybe she’d tell you it’s only available in Canada. Couldn’t blame her if she’s ever been to www.rockies.com. In seriousness, I might have to do that this afternoon. This is an intriguing rubber game.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously : Will the Game be on in Denver

though MLB package on satellite/cable? It’s not on Fox Sports RM. I don’t want to go to a bar if it’s blacked out here

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do not know

I want this answer as well.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I called Jackson's

downtown.

“if it’s on MLB package we’ll have it on….but I dunno nothing about blackouts”

Which is what I know too..DUH. What I want to know is should I take time from work to go and find out? It would be a lot of time wasted for me to find out that low and behold..it’s blacked out here, and thus not on.

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

DirecTV channel 720

is the MLB mix channel where you can watch like 8 games at the same time, if you have purchased the MLB Extra Innings package. In the past, when the Rockies haven’t been on TV, the other team’s broadcast (on its own channel) has been blacked out, but still viewable on the mix channel. If you can find a bar that will let you watch the Rockies on 1/8th of the screen, more power to you.

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why I called Jackson's downtown

connections…plus being across from Coors Field not hard to ask for Rockies games. I asked for a Rockies game to be put on at Buffalo Wild wings in Lakewood earlier this year, and you’d have thought I’d asked to watch Australian Rules Football ……(and the Rockies were on FSRM and not blacked out)

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've had that as well

BUT BASKETBALL IS ON HOW CAN YOU WANT BAS

BASEBALL

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got...and this is true

um….that table asked to watch the San Antonio Spurs game first.

HUH?

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 hits allowed, one less than Marquis himself had

If Marquis actually had three hits, his performance would have been even more epic

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

er...yeah.

Sorry about that, fixed. I actually had this ready to go at 8:15, but my internet cut out right before I could click publish…for 45 minutes. Stupid internet.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That happened to me when doing the overflow for Sat's GT

It happens

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Woody Paige... makes some cogent points."

I haven’t read the article, but… no. No, he didn’t.

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by Franchise26 on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Then you missed him equating

watching a regular season MLB game to watching an Iron Chef on TV making a souffle

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay that was a little out there...

but he did capture the excitement of Monday’s game well, acknowledged the brilliance of Jimenez, and was frustrated about the All-Star balloting.

Hyperbole aside, I thought it was a decent effort by Woody.

Eschew Obfuscation!

by Jeff Aberle on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just what Woody does

A bunch of anti-intellectual one-liners that make the casual reader comfortable. Agreed, it was better than most. He’s incapable/unwilling to filter out some of the Woodyisms

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cogent point #1: Bill Plaschke, No. 1 Sports Columnist in the land...

Which was as close as we get to a reveal of what Paige and Plaschke are really paid for.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to really

complete the article, Woody should have included Jay Mariotti and Tim Cowlishaw.

"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln

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by Russ Oates on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly Jackie Mac as well

and Tony Alphonso Spaghetti Righetti Reali!

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

::rimshot::

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odds that Brad Hawpe doesn't get picked at ALL for the all star game?

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

squaadoosh!

Over or under 1.5 Rockies get picked for the all star game?

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go with a split!

Huston Street is short.

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You win

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

WELL I'M BUYING THIS REALI

DESPITE WHAT JAYYYYY SAID I THINK THAT HAWPE’S CLUTCH HITS MAKE HIM FAR MORE VALUABLE THAN RYAN WHATSHISFACE AND OTHER GOOD PLAYERS

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Common Marritti! Do you even watch the Rockies?

The Rockies are the #2 Wild Card team (ding…ding). Houston Street is one of the leaders in the league in saves (ding…ding). Jason Marquis is a winna and leads the NL in wins. So I’m selling this Reali! Rockies get 2 All-Stars and they deserve 3!

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rox will have more than one All-Star.

Right now I’d say Hawpe and Street. If Marquis wins two more starts and has 12 wins, he’ll get picked as well.

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by pedalpusher on Jul 1, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Role play!

Wilbon, you are Rockies manager Jim Tracy. Your team has won 21 of their last 25 games. Your team is a game and a half out of the playoffs. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MANNY COMING BACK ON FRIDAY???

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

*raises Jim Tracy photo on a stick

MANNY? MANNY? Why do you want to ask me about Manny coming back? We just played the Dodgers with out Manny. Why don’t you ask me about when Matt Holliday is coming back to the Rockies! I’m going to need help if this nice little run is going to get me into the playoffs past DA CUBS!

NEXT

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

mumbles something about the NBA

/wilbon

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilbon, you are Rockies pitcher Jason Marquis.

Last night, you pitched a complete game shutout, allowing only two hits. You have the most wins in the National League and you’re tied for the most wins in the majors. As we all know, the all star game is coming up . . . HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING AMERICAN IDOL? DO YOU THINK BRETT FARVE WILL PLAY FOR THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS? HOW CRAZY WOULD THAT BE!!!!

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fangraphs wOBA--park adjusted?

Is Fangraphs wOBA park adjusted yet? If not, sheesh, they should fix that.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 9:50 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

From what I understand, they are not

I agree they need to be, and I believe that is in the cards for the future. This is the first season FanGraphs has carried wOBA as a sortable stat, so it’s not as refined as it should be. I would hope they add a park adjusted wOBA in addition to the non-adjusted one.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

not adjusted

wOBA is not park adjusted, but the “Batting” stat that is in the Value section used for WAR is park adjusted. The “Batting” stat is based of wOBA, but converted to runs above average with a park adjustment.

We do plan on adding a park adjusted wOBA stat in addition to the non-adjusted wOBA since we do realize people like to see both.

by dkappelman on Jul 1, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you get concerned that it might overly clutter the page?

How do you guys and StatCorner get along?

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think there's room

I think there’s room for one more stat in the “Advanced” section, though we’ll see. And we get along great with Matthew and Graham.

by dkappelman on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for coming over to confirm

I’m pretty sure 14 columns over 13 isn’t the tipping point for clutter, so I’m glad you guys see it the same way. And let’s be honest, a person that is looking for a sortable park-adjusted wOBA stat is probably motivated enough to deal with a little bit of clutter. Do you have an ETA on that? I’d use it twice a week for series previews at the least.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 1, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant to link this earlier...

But TrueBlue LA pointed out this Tim Brown article at Yahoo! that’s nominally about the Dodgers, but turns out to be almost as focused on the Rockies.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I also ignored it

because of the Manny thing, but after reading it, I was a hair taken back by this:

And in case anybody missed it, Tracy, in that meeting, left them with one final thought.

"We’re not going to coddle anyone anymore," he announced. "We’re going to find a way to get it done or we’re going to find somebody new."

I had never heard or read that anywhere else, and it does seem to reiterate what many folks around here felt was going on during the Hurdle era.

And how far back are we now?

by rockhead on Jul 1, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did really enjoy that quote. Helton seems like a good dude.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2009 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rockies have a lot of those Nice Guys

in fact I think it’s the top of the check list before “talent and ability”

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree with this...sarcastiment

I distinguish the difference between “Nice Guy” and “Good Dude” as such

Nice guys can suck and you feel obligated to keep them around. They probably had a big hit or did something selfless at some point, but they suck the other 99 AB they have had with the club. See: Carroll, Jamey c. 2007

Good guys are guys who are already awesome or really deserve their place on the field, and they’re not a complete dick to top that off. Like Helton.

I hope Tracy can keep some semblance of cohesion if the entire team isn’t just made of nice guys anymore.

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamey Carroll c. 2007 was so underappreciated by some.

A little overrated by others. A lot like Clint Barmes c. 2009 in that respect, although their hitting talents were different (Carroll is the high pitch count, high OBP pest, Barmes is the junk hitting extra base hit specialist).

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

well you know what I mean

Carroll had his strengths and weaknesses but a lot of the season, there was no reason for him to be on the roster other than to spell Atkins at 3B

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the 8th inning, defensively

I have to finish thoughts before clicking “Post”

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And spell Kaz in times of injury...

Which with Kaz are frequent, so in other words, there was a lot of reason for him to be on the roster. And given some actual hitting ability, much more reason than say Q has for being on the roster this year.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now we're just quibbling

I never completely hated Carroll, just when he had like a .180 AVG in June or something.

I loved him in ’06

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I take it you didn't realize the effects of BABIP in small samples then...

When a .318 career BABIP hitter starts off like Carroll did, you just chalk it up to a slump.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're killing me smalls

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, I should point out that I didn't really realize the effects at that time either

I mean, for full disclosure’s sake, I’m pretty sure I probably blogged some pretty harsh things about him that I wish to take back now in retrospect.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOW IS THIS GUY IN THE MAJORS

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND to graciously sign autographs and chat up the fans down the 1B line before games.

He did that better than anyone else on the roster that year — which could start me on a rant so i’ll digress from here.

by JaySantos on Jul 1, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

well you know what I mean

personally, I liked him, he’s the kind of guy who becomes a little kid’s hero.

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the rant wasn't targeted at you...

but rather at every MLB player who goes out for pre-game warmups to stretch et al and completely ignores the throng of kids 30 ft from them gathered along the first row of seats desperately calling out to their heroes to give an autograph or hell even a wave.

Carroll was an exception. On our current roster, I’ve only seen Barmes and Spilborghs go out of their way to acknowledge all the little kids in the stands before the game calling out to them, sign a few autographs, etc… when it’s not their designated turn to sign balls on the first base line.

by JaySantos on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, the bad memories...

Matt Freaking Holliday never signed once. ever.

Garrett Atkins and Ian Stewart, now those two are an entirely different story…

by Rockie4Ever on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He refused me as well

Helton and Stewart were good to me. I’m sure Atkins would have been had I seen hims

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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 2, 2009 12:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Troy rarely signs too

I’ve had great experiences with Helton, Barmes, CDI, and Stewart to name a few current players.

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JFK

by jrockies on Jul 2, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

I wasn’t breaking out the difference between “Nice Guy” and “Good Guy”..but ok

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh I know

I just was ;-)

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by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Renck/Manny's return

FWIW, Renck talks about the Manny possibly starting slow due to rust. I thought “disrupt LA’s lineup” meant that Renck thought the Dodger hitters would be discombulated by all the extra line drives or something.

Juan Pierre had a lousy June (.319 OBP, .309 SLG), so the Dodgers have already been carrying the anchor of sub-par offense from LF.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Dodgers are about to get a larger dose of the down-side of carrying somebody like Ramirez...

I don’t think it’s going to come from rust, but from the drama headaches. Given the way things have gone in his “rehab”, I think the circus is just warming up to a second act.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

I hope they’re ready. Torre might help there, though. The Red Sox just let him play through all the craziness until that last month when his behavior changed substantially.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a lot easier to put up with when your team's winning.

Right now it’s looking like a set-up for disaster given how LA’s slumping and Dodger fans are putting a lot of eggs into that “Manny comes back and everything will be fine” basket. The expectations outside a few at TBLA and other level-headed places seem to believe that the erosion of their lead in the division not only stops, but reverses on day one of his return. It’s not likely to, however, until the Rockies and Giants cool off (which is inevitable, but has nothing to do with Ramirez’s return) unless Los Angeles goes on another big run themselves. As we pointed out in April, that run was a lot about luck as much as it was a good team, just like the Rockies current run is. If that luck isn’t back, it’s not happening. It’s hard to recognize as fans that some things are outside the control of the team we root for.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the Dodgers should fire Torre

it worked wonders for the Rockies

Maybe the D-backs need to fire their new manager too…first one didn’t work near as good as our firing.

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A.J. Hinch is under contract thru 2011!

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by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now it’s looking like a set-up for disaster given how LA’s slumping and Dodger fans are putting a lot of eggs into that "Manny comes back and everything will be fine" basket.

I can see this. An initial stumbling is to be expected…maybe not in San Diego, but perhaps when the Dodgers travel to New York and Milwaukee. The Milwaukee series might be key, because if the Dodgers lead shrinks even more heading into the all-star break, the three days off might be maddening.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And don't get me wrong, I still see the Dodgers as overwhelming favorites

This kind of lead just doesn’t get erased very often as you’ve so aptly pointed out. I just don’t see Manny being the answer to your team’s issues as much as getting Furcal/Martin/Loney’s bats in play. Maybe the Manny circus will deflect attention from them enough to have that happen, but your offense is middle heavy right now, not as balanced as it was at the start of the year.

If there is to be a real division losing disaster with S.S. Dodgers in 2009, it will be mostly because your killer B’s arms give out. If they don’t, I think you guys win, and even if they do, I think your playoff ticket is written either way. But I do think the division’s going to wind up closer than it is now. Well, at least the Rockies will be a little closer than they are now.

by Rox Girl on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see both actually

Circus….and ummmm…“rust” You know the rust that happens to a 38 year old power hitter that is performing way beyond what his age should allow, that is no longer on steroids…….that kinda “rust”

Add in a nice mix of messing up the OF/liine-up chemistry that the Dodgers had with Pierre at the top of the order, setting a great table, and stealing bases, now on the bench, and getting Manny back I don’t think will be a boon to LA at all.

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pierre stunk in June

He turned back into a pumpkin

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"rust" You know the rust that happens to a 38 year old power hitter that is performing way beyond what his age should allow, that is no longer on steroids has just returned from maternity leave…….that kinda "rust"

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya da da ta da da!

YOINK /giant hook

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: Badass
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

/dodges the flying vegetables

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's great

It really was an astonishing performance. I’m still amazed. He just seemed to have total control of the situation. Then to dominate like that with 3 strikeouts is yet another amazement.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huston Street

The Huston Street stuff just won’t die.

Perry links to MLBTraderumors, and must not have clicked on any of the links or else he’d notice the only article that talks about the Rockies’ interest in trading him was that one from the NJ writer who recycled mid-May info about scouting the Yankees’ farm system.

Free Seth Smith!

by FooMan on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

First team

Since 85’ Mets to have 19 wins from their starters in one month.

by mkorpal on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodger lineup

I don’t have the Rox yet:

Pierre, LF
Kemp, CF
Hudson, 2B
Ethier, RF
Loretta, 3B
Loney, 1B
Ausmus, C
Castro, SS
Kershaw, P

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Because for some reason the only show 150 games a year.

You know, FSN needs more time to show reruns of sports science and poker.

by jcd823 on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know

I’ve wondered why FS-RM didn’t get all 162 games. I understand day games in April and May, but the summer, and even September I’d think they would make more money and have more viewers. Granted the Rockies games would cost more than a poker rerun.

by Redhawk on Jul 1, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it doesn't impact today, but...

…Fox has a nationwide blackout when they’re showing Saturday afternoon games, which has led to at least two Rox blackouts thus far this year, to this point.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Jul 1, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

ESPN has the exclusive TV broadcasting rights to the Sunday night time slot. Usually there is only one game during this time slot, but rainouts/scheduling quirks sometimes put multiple games against each other. ESPN gets to show the one they want (Red Sox or Yankees or Mets) and any others don’t get TV coverage.

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

there is some surcharge or MLB licensing fee that comes along with broadcasting all 162 games?

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably also has something to do with the on-air talent contracts.

And why all of a sudden does Drew disappear and Corrigan slides over from radio? Are the contracts structured for a certain number of games per year per announcer?

"I've had pretty good success with Stan Musial by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine

by pedalpusher on Jul 1, 2009 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Canada Day, Jeff Francis!

"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson

by PioneerSkies on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He smiles, waves

…hurts self…

Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: Badass
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY

by Andrew Martin on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

And how far back are we now?

by rockhead on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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