Maybe they presume you shouldn’t get it since the only reason Hammel didn’t get to pitch the ninth was because he gave up the lead and was the losing pitcher.

but yet if both starters pitched nine scoreless innings and then both had to get relieved going into the tenth, neither would get credit for a complete game.

Likewise if a pitcher pitches the whole game but it’s shortened to say 7 innings due to rain or whatever, that will show up as a complete game.

even though we lost this series i feel very confident in this team…our hitting is too good to look that bad…let’s go into the break with a nice homestand

but fwiw, his FIP is 3.89 and his tRA is 3.92, so he’s not much of an outlier

was tremendous. Broxton is an animal, and Belisario was fierce (in a Tyra Banks way).

that I’d take 5-4.

But really would have like to have today. 5.5 games behind would be SO much better than 9.5. But compared to where the Rockies were a month ago, I have to say I’m ecstatic. Seriously all I wanted was to have meaningful games in July and August, and looks like that is what we have…and then some!!

With maybe one caveat. My only hesitation with your plan is that defensively, I think the Rockies need one of them in the OF, mainly in center because of the vast area at Coors Field. But I do agree that if we’re really going to contend for the playoffs this year, this team can’t afford two nofers in the line up. My vote would be to send Cargo back down and bring him back in September when the rosters expand. Outside of the Oakland series, (where he was used to playing), I don’t see that he’s ready to hit ML pitching right now.

You want no young struggling players if a team in a playoff race? Eventually the players you have will get old and there will be nobody to replace them, and your team won’t be in any playoff races. In fact the way the Rockies are doing things, they will need like 2 position players every year, new and raw and struggling. The pipeline will always have to have new players.

Now CarGo AND Fowler I agree. BOTH don’t need to play and struggle. One is ok..not both, especially with the OF depth the Rockies have. Gonzalez made me really mad Monday and Tuesday. The 1,2,3 you’re out AB’s was embarrassing. The Rockies have talent in Seth Smith and Spillburghs, but neither is a CF. That leaves Fowler in CF. Maybe not at the lead off (I’d put Smith there)

When we’re in contention for the wild card, we cannot have two struggling rookies (okay, CarGo’s not a rookie, you get the point) on top of what already seems to be a somewhat slumping offense (Barmes, Helton, Outkins) In most cases, sometimes the only way to work the kinks out of young players is to get them some good ol’ major league AB’s, but it’s not worth putting both of them in when we’re playing in such a tight race. If we gain some serious ground in the WC race, or fall out of contention (in which case, we’d have bigger issues than two struggling outfielders) then would be the time to let them both hit everyday.

Right now, I think you nailed it when you said to send one of them down and let Seth and Spilly get their turn. Personally, I think the most potential lies in Dex, and think that he could work it out with Baylor quicker than CarGo could. He’s much newer to the Majors, and therefore can be taught easier. Not to mention that even though Carlos does have quite a bit of speed, Dex is king. We need speed.

The Kershaw/Matzek comparison seems to be a valid one and I would hate to see the Rox lose out on a possible power lefty arm. Please work hard at signing this man, Rox.

Sandoval dropped the foul ball and Rasmus made them pay

rather than excellent pitching performances that didn’t require a bullpen. Our pen better be well rested by Friday, Bad Jorge might show up.

The Rockies have had only one really reliable reliever that’s lights out, and that is closer Houston Street. We have a couple others that have done well, but not the lights out, shut out kind in Daley and Peralta (and Fogg when we was last used but I think he kicked Tracy’s dog, or said his wife was ugly as he hasn’t pitched in a LONG time).

So leaving our starters in has been Tracy’s M.O. lately especially in close games. Personally in the long run I’m worried this will hurt our starters at the end of the year as they tire or next year. BUT in each game individually I usually understand the decision, though not always as he’s done it in games where the starter is obviously getting tired and shaky.

I think the problems were with benching Helton and not running our best offense out against our most crucial opponent. I don’t think Hammels was too fatigued or anything. Kershaw was good but was liberal with the free passes and we should have capitalized on that.