Friday Rockpile: The Rockies do unto other teams as other teams have done unto the Rockies
by Russ Oates on Jul 10, 2009 8:02 AM MDT
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ESPN Sports Center Live this morning
They showed highlights of the Rockies win last night…just the bottom of the 8th and Street’s last out. THEN…they said “the Rockies have won 4 straight….but it’s the Rockies so it’s no biggie.”
HUH???? What? WTF?
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
The Rockies are only
a story when they win 40 straight.
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
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it's cause the Yankess have won 13 of 15.
Funny Dog to Make Life Worthwhile
by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions
4th best record in the NL
This is why I don’t watch ESPN or listen to their podcasts anymore.
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions
on the flip side
We swept the Nats after losing 2/3 to the Dbacks. It’s not exactly groundbreaking news.
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I was just kind of annoyed this morning
I wanted to see a little coverage of Joe Sakic retiring, nothing doing in the half hour I saw.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions
ESPN ignoring the NHL?
You … you just get right out of town. YOU get right out of town.
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
But you got 15 minutes
on LeBron James getting dunked on in his camp..and the tape getting confiscated.
How the heck is that news?
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
because it's King James
duh
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Actually didn't see that part.
I did see the breaking news of Donte Stallworth being released.
Now, what Michael Vick did was horrible, but Stallworth killed A PERSON and spent 30 days in jail. Somewhere the priorities got shuffled.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
OH MY GOD IT'S THE NFL
ESNFLPN NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL NFL
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Did you type all of those or copy and paste some?
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
i'll leave that for you to ponder
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
See
this is why I don’t watch ESPN anymore.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions
The sad part is
many of us do the same thing about Spring Training.
I wonder what football fans think of us?
“Why on earth are they getting so excited over a bunch of practice games, most with a ton of players who won’t even make the team, before they go and watch another 160-something games that all last 3 hours?!”
See but
it’s okay because baseball is so much better than football.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions
+10000000
I don’t know how many zeros that is but that comment probably deserves more.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
My best friend in high school lost her father to 10 years of jailtime
for the same crime, except his BAC was lower and he had no marijuana
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions
let's go ahead and change the subject now
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
How about them Rockies?
In seriousness, I hadn’t realized we had won four straight until this morning
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions
When I first read that, I figured the ESPN guy was saying that it’s no biggie because the Rockies are used to much longer streaks than that. But I didn’t hear with my own ears, so I don’t know.
that was the weird part
it was so out of context in the show…it could mean almost ANYTHING. I took it as a slam that “Oh, it’s just the Rockies and they don’t matter”. But it could have meant “Hey 4 game winning streak for the Rockies is so small to them it’s nothing.”
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Did they mean that the way you took it
or did they mean that in the sense that we recently won 11 in a row, so 4 in a row is no big deal?
I truely have no idea.
that’s why it was a big HUH? moment for me
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Did they move on to an in-depth story about...
what Kevin Youkilis had for lunch that afternoon?
Sooo...
anyone want to make up some juicy trade rumors today?
If any come up, we'll cover them
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
The Rockies are interested in acquireing Johan Santana
as the Mets are about out..and should be sellers.
(how’s that?)
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
Oh, can they
announce this on July 27 or July 29 when the Rockies and I are at Citi Field?
"If we never try, we shall never succeed." - Abraham Lincoln
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Rockies interested in Pirates Brandon Moss and Joel Hanrahan
Pirates would acquire Jhoulys Chacin, Tyler Massey and Delta Cleary.
by John Perrotto
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I like this trade
Hanrahan tends to win games for teams he doesn’t even play for anymore, like the Nationals
Aku, Soku, Zan
Cards Shopping Pujols
“He just isn’t a fit for the direction we want to take the club” says GM.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:00 AM MDT reply actions
sorry, that was a reply to the making up juicy rumors.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions
That's giving up too much.
Send Quintanilla and Christian Colonel, but only if STL picks up Pujols’s contract.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
Disagree.
We got Dexter Fowler from that deal.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Right.
Because the Rockies swept the Cardinals in a 4 game set in STL, the Cards are obligated to trade Pujols to the Rockies for a pair of rockpile tickets.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Walker deal
The Rockies got some salary relief (as implied in the Dex comment).
They received Jason Burch, Luis Martinez (ptbnl) and Chris Narveson.
Burch was later part of the trade that brought Rodrigo Lopez, who was ok for half a season before his injury. Narveson was part of a later deal that sent Charles Johnson away, brought BH Kim, and according to my googling, also brought cash. That last one was pretty much a swap of unwanted contracts/players, it seems to me, and Kim seemed a reasonable gamble in that context.
So the Walker deal seems to have worked out pretty well considering they really wanted out of his remaining contract.
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
I wonder if any...
GM has tried to do an April Fool’s trade just to dink around with the fan base.
I could see it now Dan O’Dowd and Brian Cashman jointly annoucing that they have swapped each other teams. The Rockies are the Yankees and the Yankees are the Rockies. I would love to see that get done the media outlets in both places would go ape.
Or maybe Dan O’Dowd annoucing that he made a very one sided trade like giving Toronto Ubaldo, Tulo, Ianetta, Hawpe, Hynick, Chacin, Street and Helton in exchange for David Dellucci*
Many fans would probably die of heart attack from that trade
Comments?
The problem with that is
that the season usually starts just after the 1st of April, and the rosters are usually set and there’s not any really big trades usually at that time (besides trading guys that are going to be cut)…so it would be sniffed out pretty quick.
It would be funny.
Start Seth Smith! Free Eric Young Jr.!
It would be sniffed out pretty quick
but giving the speed of reporting by todays meeting it would take a hour or two maybe to disprove it. I think it would be a lot of fun trying to get like 5 or so players from each team commenting on the trade just to sell the idea to the masses.
“So Todd Helton how do you feel about being a Yankee now?” Tracy Ringolsby
“:Sucks” Helton
“Why does it suck?” TR
“Media coverage in NYC is crazy.”
“Mr. Cashman, why the heck did you do this trade?” John Kruk
“Well, DoD and I were sitting at table playing poker drinking scotching talking baseball about a mouth ago and we looked at our rosters and it just seems like a win-win scenario for both of us. I get rid of the drama and great team, O’Dowd gets a playoff contending team that can take coverage from the Broncos and Avs.” Cashman
“What are you smoking, sir?” John Kruk
“Any comments on the trade A-Rod?” Peter Gammons
“**** this!!!” A-rod
“Jeter?” PG
“There goes my dating life….”Jeter
They could even get Selig in on it somehow.
Or, even worse, they could get Selig to announce that, after the season, because of the economy and such, there will be no more MLB.
A farfetched idea? Yes. Would the media figure it out pretty quickly? Yeah. But if you get the GMs, the players, even some of MiLB involved, it could cause a riot for a couple hours.
Talk about giving fans a heart attack.
I believe last year
The Phillies announced they traded one of their players to Japan. If i remember there was an interview and everything and just when the player was done saying how much it sucked they said April Fools
Here's to hoping Francis has a speedy recovery...
good find
this was one of the best stunts I’ve seen.
Except Brett Myers yelling “HAWT DAWG EATAR”
Chris Iannetta status: DOOM
Seth Smith status: FREE SETH SMITH
Matt Murton status: Prisoner Exchanged for CarGon
Mike McCoy status: FREE MIKE MCCOY
by Andrew Martin on Jul 10, 2009 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, Chris Narvessen just got released
We could get him back and keep something from that deal.
I was less optimistic
than most because of the pitching matchups. I would have been okay with a series split yesterday. But after watching the game last night and waking up to the news that Vasquez won’t be pitching, 3 out of 4 is now a must.
Kris Medlen is in their bullpen
He seems to be the best option, as he just threw eight pitches last night, though we rocked him in his MLB debut. Other AAA options: Tony Armas (not on 40-man), Jo-Jo Reyes (though I don’t think his rehab is done), and Todd Redmond.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2009 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions
That is big news
Was there any news before the series of a possible injury to Vasquez?
Aku, Soku, Zan
i didnt are any while researching for the preview
Then again, I do miss things
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Jul 10, 2009 10:51 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The news was first announced last night in the pregame show of the Braves broadcast.
by WolfMarauder on Jul 10, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Which if still on TBS would be
Tyler Perry’s Atlanta Braves Pre Game Show.
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by frightenedinmate#2 on Jul 10, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
No, Tyler Perry would be the starting 1B.
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Now if we don't
take the series I will be disappointed.
"We made too many wrong mistakes." ~Yogi Berra
"The ballplayer who loses his head, who can't keep his cool, is worse than no ballplayer at all." ~Lou Gehrig
JFK
Don't look now but...
Rockies have the best pitching staff in the NL by WAR and are second in the league overall.
Eschew Obfuscation!
By league I mean MLB...
The Red Sox have an incredible pitching staff (2.2 WAR above anyone else in baseball).
Eschew Obfuscation!
Who'da thunk it.
If they keep this up, I’d say Dan’s job is safe.
Does anybody think this link will go up at Talking Chop?
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I should have said...
that a full season of pitching like this would make Apodaca’s job secure as well.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Based on performance thus far, don't you think DOD is deserving of an extension right now?
"I've had pretty good success with Stan Musial by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
Yes.
Way too early to tell if we end up in the playoffs or not, but his moves that put this club together have worked out quite well. The rest is up to the players, but he absolutely put together a roster capable of getting us there.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
I'm not sure.
I’d like to see a larger sample size before I decide whether June was Fluke-tober, or the start of the turnaround.
Does anyone think that given the last 7 weeks, that Jim Tracy is the long-term answer for manager? No argument from me that he’s gotten the job done; I’d just like to see it continue for a while before I marry the guy.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
I'm in your court with this one.
I have nothing but praise for the guy right now. He’s certainly gotten this team pointed in the right direction, but as manager, it’s his job to keep the team on track. Let’s see how the second half goes before we ink him long term.
And how far back are we now?
Rox are 28-11 since JT took over.
He has brought stability to the lineup and handled the pitching staff much better than his predecessor. The move to put Barmes in the 2 hole and leave him there is one of his best decisions. I think it would send a huge message of stability if he were signed to an extension.
As far as DOD is concerned, I agree with Mondogarage. He has done a good job. If nothing else, getting Marquis for Vizcaino is his best move since he’s been here.
Extend them both.
"I've had pretty good success with Stan Musial by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
Nobody is arguing that JT is not producing
…and nobody was unhappy with the 2007 WS run that Hurdle pulled together But a review of the entire Hurdle reign makes it clear that he couldn’t produce that over an extended period. I’d like to see a sucessful year (as opposed to a sucessful 6-8 weeks) before extending anybody.
Maybe I should ask the question this way…How much do the Monforts save by signing these guys in July, instead of signing them after a playoff run? How much does it cost them if they extend them now, and decide they need to make another change next year, if the team were to return to Earth? Which scenario has a greater risk/reward ratio?
I think we agree more than we disagree here. I’d love to be proven wrong, and watch the Rockies win 70% of their remaining games.
Ignorance of the American League is a sign of good moral character.
Off topic post:
Has anyone checked out ‘Beyond the Box Score’ today & read the artile about the new high-resolution game tracking system. This thing is sweet! I followed the link to NYTimes (/almosts pops a veing trying withold commenting on NTTimes). They have an awesome video on how it’s going to work. If this thing goes commercial it will be a boon for those trying to watch games unavailable on TV.
Here’s the link:
Could revolutionize evaluation of fielding & baserunning.
From what I gathered, the data will be the exclusive domain of MLB & its clubs. (Permitting fans to receive some of it via subscription was mentioned as a possibility.) Eventually, some of it might be included in MLB’s Gameday service, which is by subscription.
by J. Henry Waugh on Jul 10, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Braves traded Francoeur to the Mets for Church.
Fanshotted, as we are currently in a series against the Braves.
Thank Jeebus that Fialcoeur won't be in the lineup tonight!
"DAMMIT! No, calm down. Learn to enjoy losing." --Hunter S. Thompson
by PioneerSkies on Jul 10, 2009 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Belisario on the DL
Did anyone notice that? He went on the DL Wed with a stiff elbow. He was sent home Tuesday, so whoever had 7/7 in the pool wins!
Leave Dexter alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!
Great, why can't we play the Dodgers right after the all star break?
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
I may not have to miss tonight's game after all...
Given how the surgeon kinda screwed up BIG TIME in a way that required postponement of the surgery until Monday…I may get to join you guys in the game thread at some point.
Here’s hoping Ryan Church doesn’t show up on time, because if memory serves, he does okay against the Rox? Not “Jeff Failcouer except when he hits three doubles” ok, but at least reasonably well.
Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave
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